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Adobe Photoshop CS6 to adopt Aperture-like theme, new 3D functionality

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Early betas of Photoshop CS6, an update to Adobe's flagship digital imaging software due next year as part of Creative Suite 6.0 (CS6), show off a darker interface theme, new 3D capabilities, autosave, and a handful of other tool additions, AppleInsider has learned.

A new look

According to people familiar with builds of the software compiled earlier this month, the most immediately-recognizable change to Photoshop in CS6 (version 13.0) is its darker, Aperture-like user interface (below) that replaces the mostly platinum theme found in existing versions of the software. For some, this may be an unwelcome change; that's why Adobe has reportedly -- at least in the current beta build -- provided testers with the option to revert to the old look.

In addition to the color change, the new theme also sports an assortment of spruced-up pallet icons that offer new and slightly different takes on classic designs. The changes aren't so drastic that users won't be able to find their way around, say those who've spent time with the software, but instead aim to 'freshen up' the software's legacy feel.



3D enhancements

But the real meat of Photoshop CS6, which goes by the code-name "Superstition," appears to be an assortment of new features that Adobe has proposed as enhancements to the software's 3D capabilities that emerged in earnest back with the 2008 release of Photoshop CS4.

For example, a new "3D Material Drop" tool has been added to the Paint Bucket, according to people familiar with the software. Similarly, Adobe has also added a "3D Material Eyedropper Tool" to Photoshop's Eyedropper. There's also a new "3D Text" option for text input, rounding out a trio of 3D-centric additions to the Tools palette.



Additional 3D options are reportedly evident in the Preferences pane, where testers can presently enable or disable "Allow Direct to Screen" and "Auto-Hide Layers" options for "Interactive Rendering." There are also new "Rich Cursor" options: "Show on Hover" and "Show on Interaction."

Within the 3D preferences, testers can also modify "Axis Control," where options allow for "Invert Camera Axis" and "Separate Axis controls." Finally, a new "interactive Shadows Quality" section allows testers to choose from a range of quality options when generating shadows.



3D tools aside, early betas of Photoshop CS6 also introduced a "Remix Tool" to the healing brushes palette, joining tools such as "Spot Healing Brush," "Healing Brush," "Patch" and "Red Eye" tools. For cropping, Adobe has also added a new "Perspective Crop Tool."



Added Options

There are also a handful of other changes to the Preferences pane in the new Photoshop. In "General," users can select or deselect "HUD Vertical Movement varies Round Brush Hardness" and "Snap Vector Tools and Transforms to Pixel Grid."



Also, under the "Interface" section, new options include "Show Transformation Values" and "Enable Text Drop Shadows."



Users can also access new preferences in the "File Handling" section, where "Save in Background" has been added, along with "Automatically save Recovery Information Every:" with a choice of time intervals. New "File Compatibility" preferences include "Ignore Rotation Metadata" and "Disable Compressions of PSD and PSB Files."



Under the "Type" section of Preferences, a pair of options have been removed in the Photoshop CS6 beta: "Show Asian Text Options" and "Font Preview Size."



Given that the information on Photoshop CS6 comes from pre-release test builds of the software, it's probable that some features could be changed, removed, or added by the time the software hits the market. People familiar with the matter say Adobe is shooting for a release of Creative Suite 6.0 sometime around May of 2012.

Deblurring

Separately, Adobe has been working on a handful of prototype features that may or may not make it into future versions of Photoshop. One of these features, for correcting blurry photographs, uses a sophisticated algorithm that analyzes a photograph and then generates a "blur kernel." The kernel contains information on the motion trajectory of the camera during the shot that created the blur. With a selection of the "Restore Sharp Image" tool, Photoshop uses the blur kernel data to restore the image with more clarity:



Availability



CS6 will mark the first significant update to Photoshop since CS5 back in April of 2010. Although Adobe released Creative Suite 5.5 this past May, it bundled the same version of Photoshop that was included with CS5.
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Adobe have been quite prolific lately, embracing iOS and OS X. It's good to see. The fact that both platforms are little-endian and C-based bodes well for cross-platform development.
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Can we have some features to make web design easier, adding character and paragraph stiles would be a start.
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3D tools? Seriously? Yeah, great..now Photoshop makes even more amazing 3D hats.

I just hope that with the new UI they've fixed all the sloppy, poorly placed crap and actually streamlined it a bit.
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Where's Seetharaman Narayanan?? His name wasn't in the credits!
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3D tools? Seriously? Yeah, great..now Photoshop makes even more amazing 3D hats.

I just hope that with the new UI they've fixed all the sloppy, poorly placed crap and actually streamlined it a bit.

If they've just put a new skin on the random mess of sliders, scrollbars and other random widgets they've invented, then I'll be disappointed.
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Adobe lost my business a long time ago and a light UI re-skin isn't going to tempt me back. If they want to appeal to anyone outside of their remaining customer base they might want to consider not being lazy for a change and stripping out all the confusing and redundant processes and functions that have accumulated since 1.0. Instead, try creating an INTUITIVE, EFFICIENT and CONSISTENT methodology for getting things done with their apps.
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How is this a new User Interface? They've been using the dark theme in Photoshop Elements since version 6. Finally putting the option for a dark theme in the full CS isn't exactly news worthy.

The 3D will also just be another nail in photoshop's performance coffin. I have a core i7 iMac with 10GB of RAM - Photoshop CS5.1 should NOT run that computer into the ground in such a big way that it swaps nearly 4GB to the disk.

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Can we have some features to make web design easier, adding character and paragraph stiles would be a start.

May I ask why in the hell are you doing the text portions of a website in Photoshop of all places? Heard of Dreamweaver, or InDesign, or even Illustrator? What part of PHOTO - SHOP do you not understand?

I thoroughly despise people handing of designs that use a program far beyond it's intentions.... just because you can!

As for the myriad of other possible improvements to the disjointed mess that Photoshop and the entire suite has become... well, the BETA preview doesn't shed any light or make me want to upgrade yet. Of course I will because I have to.... but the keyword was "want" to.

Let's start of with the sorry-ass Preset Manager and managing brushes, patterns, styles. No tagging, nor folder structure... just a pre-millenium list? Come on!

Or how about a check box to remember changes to a brush or tool preset, rather than having to create a new one for fast switching.

And let's not get started on the entire Suite not following the same conventions or even similar dialog boxes for something so simple as Scaling.

Adobe has A LOT to do! Skinning the damn mess is least of them. Lipstick meet pig... Round 3 (or is it 6?)
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Some more improvements:

1) if we're talking 3D, how about adding a Mesh Tool, or being able to save a Liquify Mesh easier and manipulate it in 3D for fabrik warps, like adding patterns to clothes... something I do every day, but is painfully advanced to difficult.

2) or a simple thing, like adding user-choosable grid to the Warp Transform, instead of just 3x3... Illustrator has it, as well as a Mesh Tool that "could be" very nice when combined with say, Puppet Warp.

3) How about the option to make the GUI bigger? On a 27" iMac, some of the panel buttons (on the bottom), are like 5x5 pixels!!! Info-text is the equivalent of 3-point!!!

... and that's just a short list....
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post #11 of 54
Look at Premiere Pro or After Effects - the skin of these applications is where PS CS6 gets its look, not Aperture.

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Some more improvements:

1) if we're talking 3D, how about adding a Mesh Tool, or being able to save a Liquify Mesh easier and manipulate it in 3D for fabrik warps, like adding patterns to clothes... something I do every day, but is painfully advanced to difficult.

That would help with my illustration work as well. There is only so much I can half arse with the current tool set.

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2) or a simple thing, like adding user-choosable grid to the Warp Transform, instead of just 3x3... Illustrator has it, as well as a Mesh Tool that "could be" very nice when combined with say, Puppet Warp.

Nice idea.

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3) How about the option to make the GUI bigger? On a 27" iMac, some of the panel buttons (on the bottom), are like 5x5 pixels!!! Info-text is the equivalent of 3-point!!!

... and that's just a short list....

Dreamweaver is the absolute worst for that.
27" iMac
Open dreamweaver
Code view
font is literally 7pt by default on a bright white background
eyes explode.

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This will be the first release since CS3 where Adobe is not dealing with a major Apple transition (CS4 - PPC to x86, CS5 - cancellation of 64-bit Carbon and rewrite of suite in Cocoa).

With the rise of iOS, I bet Adobe is thankful now for that forced move to Cocoa.
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As someone who uses Photoshop every working day, and has done since Photoshop 2.5, it's good to see Adobe actually innovating after years of stagnation. That said, the performance of recent versions has been so poor I'm still using CS3.

As for the dark theme, I expect it's been done to match the new dark UI look that Autodesk's products have been using for the past few years.
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Some more improvements:

1) if we're talking 3D, how about adding a Mesh Tool, or being able to save a Liquify Mesh easier and manipulate it in 3D for fabrik warps, like adding patterns to clothes... something I do every day, but is painfully advanced to difficult.

2) or a simple thing, like adding user-choosable grid to the Warp Transform, instead of just 3x3... Illustrator has it, as well as a Mesh Tool that "could be" very nice when combined with say, Puppet Warp.

3) How about the option to make the GUI bigger? On a 27" iMac, some of the panel buttons (on the bottom), are like 5x5 pixels!!! Info-text is the equivalent of 3-point!!!

... and that's just a short list....

Fabrics would surely be easier to do in Maya or Max?
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May I ask why in the hell are you doing the text portions of a website in Photoshop of all places? Heard of Dreamweaver, or InDesign, or even Illustrator? What part of PHOTO - SHOP do you not understand?

I thoroughly despise people handing of designs that use a program far beyond it's intentions.... just because you can!

As for the myriad of other possible improvements to the disjointed mess that Photoshop and the entire suite has become... well, the BETA preview doesn't shed any light or make me want to upgrade yet. Of course I will because I have to.... but the keyword was "want" to.

Let's start of with the sorry-ass Preset Manager and managing brushes, patterns, styles. No tagging, nor folder structure... just a pre-millenium list? Come on!

Or how about a check box to remember changes to a brush or tool preset, rather than having to create a new one for fast switching.

And let's not get started on the entire Suite not following the same conventions or even similar dialog boxes for something so simple as Scaling.

Adobe has A LOT to do! Skinning the damn mess is least of them. Lipstick meet pig... Round 3 (or is it 6?)

I agree the concept of using advanced typography work in Photoshop for the web design seems odd at this point.

However, why the hell do you need Dreamweaver, InDesign or Illustrator for Web Typography? Your present otf, ttf, wof typography is all done through CSS 2.1/3.

Assume you're working with SVG and Canvas Illustrator, and Photoshop don't properly respect the SVG 1.1 let alone SVG 1.2 Tiny specification to use SVG Fonts in advanced web development. So if you want Technical Documents to co-mingle with your publications in HTML 5 like one would expect in InDesign for DTP it just isn't there yet.

There is still a ton of work to be done:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...ector_Graphics)
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Early betas of Photoshop CS6, an update to Adobe's flagship digital imaging software due next year as part of Creative Suite 6.0 (CS6), show off a darker interface theme, new 3D capabilities, autosave, and a handful of other tool additions, AppleInsider has learned. ...

This is just the same old shite they do with every release IMO. Kind of sad really.

Step 1) - "spruce it up!"

Don't actually fix anything but move a lot of shit around. Maybe copy the look of whatever product was cool and new about five years ago.

Step 2) - random movement

Make sure that some things that were on menu a move to menu b and vice versa. Change a few icons (but only slightly). Maybe rename some shit. Make sure at least a couple of things disappear, but without any rhyme or reason.

Step 3) - "new feature!" (note the singular)

Always add one feature that you can't get anywhere else even if it's lame. If you have two new features, save one for next year.

Step 4) - Take old price, add a bit, take some away, spilt up the suite and then recombine it in five other ways. Make sure the price eventually works out to basically the same price it's always been (immensely expensive). Call it done.
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This is just the same old shite they do with every release IMO. Kind of sad really.

Step 1) - "spruce it up!"

Don't actually fix anything but move a lot of shit around. Maybe copy the look of whatever product was cool and new about five years ago.

Step 2) - random movement

Make sure that some things that were on menu a move to menu b and vice versa. Change a few icons (but only slightly). Maybe rename some shit. Make sure at least a couple of things disappear, but without any rhyme or reason.

Step 3) - "new feature!" (note the singular)

Always add one feature that you can't get anywhere else even if it's lame. If you have two new features, save one for next year.

Step 4) - Take old price, add a bit, take some away, spilt up the suite and then recombine it in five other ways. Make sure the price eventually works out to basically the same price it's always been (immensely expensive). Call it done.

Now that I think about it... Wow, makes me wish Photoshop 7 still worked on Intel Macs Could've saved a bundle on the Web Design suite CS5.5

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Its getting to the point of absurdity on this site that everything is stolen from apple. This looks more like elements than aperture.
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And all of this can be yours for the low price of $999.99! But wait, there's more...
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Goddamn that blur correction looks amazing.

Agree with all comments re: Photoshop interface. Used to be my favorite program, now I rank it just above "Excel" in terms of user-friendliness.
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And all of this can be yours for the low price of $999.99! But wait, there's more...

If you buy our entire suite right now, we'll only charge you $2,499.99! Order now for this once-in-a-lifetime wallet rape... er.... deal!!
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Please, please, please, STOP the interface changes. This constant redesign of the interface is tiring and more importantly reduces productivity. Now I'm not saying that the interface should never change, but this pattern of changing the interface with practically every update is nonsense. What if once a year you got into your car to find all the controls had been moved around? What if annually you picked up your TV remote and found all the buttons had been rearranged? What if you look down now at your keyboard and find the positions of all the keys have been relocated? Would it be inconvenient, confusing, frustrating? You bet. So why does Adobe do it?

Adobe makes money by... selling software. If they want to stay in business they need to keep the money rolling in and therefore they need to constantly come out with updated versions of their software that we will spend our money on. They want to make sure we feel like we got our money's worth. One way to do that is by making the product LOOK different - interface redesign.

Adobe, please, show some sensitivity to your customers. Only change the interface when you have a compelling design that will truly improve our productivity.
post #24 of 54
Looks like the Capture One interface skin to me.
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its funny this site and posters automatically say adobe copied apple on the dark UI. (which I do not like BTW).
Premire Pro, After Effects and PS Elements have had a dark interface for a while.
Capture One is a professional raw conversion program that has had a dark UI for the last few years.

And whoever leaked this probably violated a NDA.
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its funny this site and posters automatically say adobe copied apple on the dark UI. (which I do not like BTW).
Premire Pro, After Effects and PS Elements have had a dark interface for a while.
Capture One is a professional raw conversion program that has had a dark UI for the last few years.

And whoever leaked this probably violated a NDA.

and by reading the material and getting some advantage out of it then you are an accessory after the fact.
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and by reading the material and getting some advantage out of it then you are an accessory after the fact.

what are you talking about?
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According to people familiar with builds of the software compiled earlier this month, the most immediately-recognizable change to Photoshop in CS6 (version 13.0) is its darker, Aperture-like user interface (below) that replaces the mostly platinum theme found in existing versions of the software. For some, this may be an unwelcome change; that's why Adobe has reportedly -- at least in the current beta build -- provided testers with the option to revert back to the old look.

STOP the sensationalism Apple Insider. I don't know if I would call the darker color of the interface Aperture-like. Adobe After Effects and most recently, though to a lesser extent, Adobe Ilustrator have had the option to change the color of the interface in their respective "preferences" from platinum to dark grey for years.

Most video editors and animators who use After Effects work in dark rooms, they also use other tools in Adobe's Creative Suite like Photoshop and Illustrator in these dark rooms so it makes sense to carry the dark interface over to all the programs in the Suite. Personally, I prefer the darker look, it's about time if you ask me.
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STOP the sensationalism Apple Insider. I don't know if I would call the darker color of the interface Aperture-like. Adobe After Effects and most recently, though to a lesser extent, Adobe Ilustrator have had the option to change the color of the interface in their respective "preferences" from platinum to dark grey for years.

Most video editors and animators who use After Effects work in dark rooms, they also use other tools in Adobe's Creative Suite like Photoshop and Illustrator in these dark rooms so it makes sense to carry the dark interface over to all the programs in the Suite. Personally, I prefer the darker look, it's about time if you ask me.

I've cut down my AI web browsing time mainly b/c of the heavy Adobe bashing on this site.
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Please, please, please, STOP the interface changes. This constant redesign of the interface is tiring and more importantly reduces productivity. Now I'm not saying that the interface should never change, but this pattern of changing the interface with practically every update is nonsense. What if once a year you got into your car to find all the controls had been moved around? What if annually you picked up your TV remote and found all the buttons had been rearranged? What if you look down now at your keyboard and find the positions of all the keys have been relocated? Would it be inconvenient, confusing, frustrating? You bet. So why does Adobe do it?

Adobe makes money by... selling software. If they want to stay in business they need to keep the money rolling in and therefore they need to constantly come out with updated versions of their software that we will spend our money on. They want to make sure we feel like we got our money's worth. One way to do that is by making the product LOOK different - interface redesign.

Adobe, please, show some sensitivity to your customers. Only change the interface when you have a compelling design that will truly improve our productivity.

If you think that's bad (I sure do!) Just wait till you read about the "software subscription" plan. Where you never fully "own" it, must always have an internet connection, get forced updates, and pay more than it's worth monthly. That's how they are positioning "Muse"; the InDesign-builds-websites app.
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I've cut down my AI web browsing time mainly b/c of the heavy Adobe bashing on this site.

I must agree that the bashing is a bit strong. I've relied on Photoshop for years; sure it's a heavy program, but it's never let me down. When Apple turned out Final Cut X, I was grateful that Premiere Pro CS5.5 and the rest of the Production suite were available and reliable.
post #32 of 54
The dark interface in Pro apps is so your perception of the document colours is not messed up by the interface colours. It's not about copying each other's style.
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Oh. Great. Adobe, not content with Photoshop being the fattest, most bloated whore in the world of software, has decided to try to make it into a 3D modeling software, as well.

So what, are we going to hear about Maya being bought up and integrated into Photoshop or Creative Suite?

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Oh. Great. Adobe, not content with Photoshop being the fattest, most bloated whore in the world of software, has decided to try to make it into a 3D modeling software, as well.

So what, are we going to hear about Maya being bought up and integrated into Photoshop or Creative Suite?

they're had 3D features for a few years now. PS Extended.
they sell a 3D version and a non 3D version. and you dont have to use the features you dont need.
you can hide the 3D items in the menu also.

please tone down the blind anti-adobe rhetoric here- w/o adobe products your precious ipad will have no content.
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they sell a 3D version and a non 3D version. and you dont have to use the features you dont need.

Uh… huh.

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please tone down the blind anti-adobe rhetoric here

Oh, yeah. That's what this is.

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w/o adobe products your precious ipad will have no content.



Oh holy mother of frick, that's hilarious. Man, I wish we could use more emoticons.

Please tone down the blind pro-Adobe rhetoric here!

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Its getting to the point of absurdity on this site that everything is stolen from apple. This looks more like elements than aperture.

+1 apple doesn't have a monopoly on dark ui's.
post #37 of 54
I can only hope that Adobe will bring everything up to 64 bits using Lion. Than includes such things as picture package - something that we photographers use daily and we now need to shut down and reopen CS 5 in 32 bits to make it work. Making wallet-size images for customers should not mean re-booting the program - and then restarting later in 64 bits.

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post #38 of 54
Looks like they changed the Pane headings from UPPERCASE back to Upper and Lowercase. This is much easier to read and I never understood why they changed it in CS4.
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Looks like they changed the Pane headings from UPPERCASE back to Upper and Lowercase. This is much easier to read and I never understood why they changed it in CS4.

i initially didn't like the change to upper case - but I got used to it and prefer it that way..
either way there are scripts to change them back and forth.
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I've cut down my AI web browsing time mainly b/c of the heavy Adobe bashing on this site.

Amen.
Adobe get as fair coverage here as Obama gets on FOX.
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