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After more than three years since Apple launched the App Store, Google is rumored to be on the verge of releasing a native iOS app for its Gmail service, according to a new report.

M.G. Siegler noted in a blog post late Monday that "multiple sources" have told him the launch of the application is imminent.

"I believe it has already been submitted to Apple for review. If it gets approved, it should be out soon," he wrote, adding that he believes it will get approved.

Siegler went on to note that tipsters have said the app looks "pretty fantasticperhaps even surprisingly so." A key feature of the app is expected to be the addition of push notifications for the popular email service. Other likely feature additions include Priority Inbox and one-click starring of messages, according to him.

The author also speculated that upcoming Gmail features such as "contact icons, better threading, deep searching functionality," and even Google+ integration could make their way into the iOS application.

Despite the arrival of Apple's App Store in 2008, Google has preferred to use a Web interface for Gmail on iOS. Apple's native Mail app on iOS has included support for Gmail accounts for years, though it lacks a number of the features that Google offers via the Web app.

Numerous reasons have been put forth for the delay in a Gmail app. Originally, some suggested that Apple was blocking third-party mail apps to avoid confusion with its own Mail program. Google's tendency to favor Web apps for its services. More recently, friction between Apple and Google over the Android operating system has been cited as another cause of the delay.

According to a recently released biography, late Apple co-founder Steve Jobs vowed to "destroy Android" after handset maker HTC released an Android smartphone that he felt stole his company's innovations.

"I don't want your money. If you offer me $5 billion, I won't want it. I've got plenty of money. I want you to stop using our ideas in Android, that's all I want," Jobs reportedly told Schmidt during a meeting in 2010.
post #2 of 48
I do not really care as I switched to @me.com.
@gmail.com will serve as a spam box from now on.
Hopefully, Apple's upcoming maps will also make Google's ones as useless as this native gmail app.
post #3 of 48
NOOOO not this...GOOGLE IS EVIL!!!!!!!!

or something like that.
post #4 of 48
I never had a problem using gmail through ios's native email app, setup as exchange using google active sync. I'm not really sure why anyone would need a separate app.

Like some people, I too switched to an @me account.
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Deleted - stupid dyslexic mistake
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So if this report can be believed they are going to do all these things that google does.

And Jobs wanted google to stop using Apples ideas. Thats a bit rich isnt it?

I read this article as Google making their own app. Where does it say Apple is involved in it?
post #7 of 48
Gmail works fine as an exchange account set m.google.com as the server is about the only setting you have to add manually, pushes my inbox, which is like an archeological dig through seven years of spam, all day long.
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post #8 of 48
Finally. GMail is bare bones in the extreme in the Apple mail app, and the GMail web app is too clunky to use.
post #9 of 48
1) Curious ow long Apple disallowed other mail app clients on the App Store. Are here others now? If so, how long have hey been there?

2) Like others have stated, I've made the switch to my @me.com email over gmail as my primary despite having the Apple service sine iTools. My reason for the move is the deep integration with so many aspects of iOS 5.0. It just made things easier to switch. I wonder if this is a common trend that precipitated this new Gmail app now that iCloud and @me.com addresses are free.
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post #10 of 48
I moved to yahoo and .me, and I was really not comfortable with their scanning mails to show their ads, it was easy to move the older mails from gmail to yahoo in my iPad2. Now in the process of deleting the google account itself.
post #11 of 48
Maps is the only Google presence left on my iPhone and I can't wait to get rid of that too. I just don't want their ads or profiling of me.

I thought one of the App Store rules was to deny Apps that duplicated or attempted to replace the default Apple Apps. This App should not be approved. Apple should go thermonuclear on this.
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I read this article as Google making their own app. Where does it say Apple is involved in it?

It gets involved when I sometimes skim read and substitute words (dyslexic problem). I should know better.
post #13 of 48
Irrelevant at this point. Already switched to my 'me' account months ago, and have relegated the gmail account to my junk account.

Dunno why folks had problems with the built in mail app as it served it's purpose when I used it, and now I no longer need it.

Easy
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post #14 of 48
Gmail can also be used as an IMAP account, so I am a little curious as to what the real advantage of the app will be?
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for the people that have a problem with Google using your information to sell you ads, Facebook does exactly the same thing. Seems like Apple fans have an anti Google thing going on nowadays, dont really understand it.

Anyway, the native app is really gimped if you are used to using gmail a lot. I DJ and i have certain filters set for music and things. Also starring is very useful. These are features that will never come to the IOS client. G

mail is great because its based in the cloud. I have a Macbook and iPod touch, and they are both tied to as much Google services as possible. This is VERY welcome. Now lets get a real Google Reader client going!
post #16 of 48
There are many reasons that a native GMail client is far preferred to Mail:

Proper support for labels - Mail sees labels as folders. Labels are much more powerful than folders (if Apple implemented labels with iCloud I would seriously consider it but without labels never).

Proper search through the body of all messages in all labels (folders) - Mail will only search the subject or sender/receiver.

Push support - you can use Google Sync and Exchange but then you have to put up with not being able to delete messages in Mail only archive them. IMAP allows you to choose.

If you pay for a Google Apps account (which I do) then you don't have to worry about the advertising.
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Originally Posted by blaquekyd View Post

for the people that have a problem with Google using your information to sell you ads, Facebook does exactly the same thing. Seems like Apple fans have an anti Google thing going on nowadays, dont really understand it.

Anyway, the native app is really gimped if you are used to using gmail a lot. I DJ and i have certain filters set for music and things. Also starring is very useful. These are features that will never come to the IOS client. G

mail is great because its based in the cloud. I have a Macbook and iPod touch, and they are both tied to as much Google services as possible. This is VERY welcome. Now lets get a real Google Reader client going!

I'm not sure why you think we would like Facebook selling our info while disliking that Google does it. Frankly I don't like either and Google was too pervasive. Now I have another option that is cloud friendly and more privacy friendly. I suspect most people who made the switch feel the same.

To each his own.
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There are many reasons that a native GMail client is far preferred to Mail:
search through the body of all messages in all labels (folders) - Mail will only search the subject or sender/receiver.

Push support - you can use Google Sync and Exchange but then you have to put up with not being able to delete messages in Mail only archive them. IMAP allows you to choose.

Mail supports body searching in iOS 5 as well. It also supports push although I dislike the battery drain for Push myself.
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Mail supports body searching in iOS 5 as well. It also supports push although I dislike the battery drain for Push myself.

It doesn't search the body with GMail -> native GMail client will almost certainly.
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I'm not sure why you think we would like Facebook selling our info while disliking that Google does it. Frankly I don't like either and Google was too pervasive. Now I have another option that is cloud friendly and more privacy friendly. I suspect most people who made the switch feel the same.

To each his own.

.ME email is not really cloud friendly, as its confined to an Apple device. You are right, to each his own. But, people are being niave by thinking that not using Facebook or Gmail, prevents you from having your information sold. The hospital you are born in sells your information to a 3rd party. There is nothing wrong , IN MY OPINION, for a company to use the information, that I provide, to supply me with advertisements based on that.

My point is that there seems to be an anti-Google stance, but i can almost guarantee you that there are users that bash Google, but use Facebook everyday. Apple operates iAd, which is exactly Googles model. They are not above this practice.

Google Apps, actually prevents this from happening, with its paid model.
post #21 of 48
My same set up. I really like Apple's iCloud. Gmail is my spam box.


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Originally Posted by jason98 View Post

I do not really care as I switched to @me.com.
@gmail.com will serve as a spam box from now on.
Hopefully, Apple's upcoming maps will also make Google's ones as useless as this native gmail app.
post #22 of 48
I access my iCloud email on my work's Window XP machine. That is a non Apple device. In addition, Apple has an active policy of not selling your private information. If Apple was interested in making ad money, it would have monetized its online services a long time ago. That is one of the things that makes Apple unique.

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.ME email is not really cloud friendly, as its confined to an Apple device. You are right, to each his own. But, people are being niave by thinking that not using Facebook or Gmail, prevents you from having your information sold. The hospital you are born in sells your information to a 3rd party. There is nothing wrong , IN MY OPINION, for a company to use the information, that I provide, to supply me with advertisements based on that.

My point is that there seems to be an anti-Google stance, but i can almost guarantee you that there are users that bash Google, but use Facebook everyday. Apple operates iAd, which is exactly Googles model. They are not above this practice.

Google Apps, actually prevents this from happening, with its paid model.
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Originally Posted by blaquekyd View Post

.ME email is not really cloud friendly, as its confined to an Apple device. You are right, to each his own. But, people are being niave by thinking that not using Facebook or Gmail, prevents you from having your information sold. The hospital you are born in sells your information to a 3rd party. There is nothing wrong , IN MY OPINION, for a company to use the information, that I provide, to supply me with advertisements based on that.

My point is that there seems to be an anti-Google stance, but i can almost guarantee you that there are users that bash Google, but use Facebook everyday. Apple operates iAd, which is exactly Googles model. They are not above this practice.

Google Apps, actually prevents this from happening, with its paid model.

Works perfectly find on a Windows machine as well. It is not 'Apple device' specific. I think the point is that Google's entire business model is to sell your info to advertisers. Arguably Facebooks is ad driven as well. Apple's is not, and the ads you do do see are 3rd party apps on a phone/iPad app, usually on the 'free' versions.

Apple's business isn't to sell your info. Google's is. Not hating, as it is what it is, and Google serves it's purpose (sells info for decent services). I don't think anyone has any illusions otherwise.
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I access my iCloud email on my work's Window XP machine. That is a non Apple device. In addition, Apple has an active policy of not selling your private information. If Apple was interested in making ad money, it would have monetized its online services a long time ago. That is one of the things that makes Apple unique.

Apple IS interested in making ad money. they run iAd. also, gmail literally lives in the cloud and can be accessed from any browser on any device.

Also, Googles, doesnt sell or share your personally identifiably information. thats a myth as well.

I understand this is an Apple community, and you guys love Apple products and services. i personally feel that Gmail is a very robust and useful email system, that really makes my life easier because of the way they approach email. Thats my opinion.

No email is immune from spam, the more you use the address on the internet , the more spam will come. Google has done a great job with Priority features, i rarely see spam in my inbox.
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Works perfectly find on a Windows machine as well. It is not 'Apple device' specific. I think the point is that Google's entire business model is to sell your info to advertisers. Arguably Facebooks is ad driven as well. Apple's is not, and the ads you do do see are 3rd party apps on a phone/iPad app, usually on the 'free' versions.

Apple's business isn't to sell your info. Google's is. Not hating, as it is what it is, and Google serves it's purpose (sells info for decent services). I don't think anyone has any illusions otherwise.


this is right from Google.

How does Google protect my privacy when it comes to advertising?
We make protecting privacy a priority by being clear about what information we collect and how we will use the information to show relevant ads, and by offering choices to consumers about what information to share with us. We also make it easy for you to view, manage and opt out of interest-based ads shown on AdSense partner sites, certain Google sites and also on Third Party and certain Google Applications and other clients. We will not collect, sell, or share personally identifying information from ad serving cookies without your explicit consent
.

iAd serves you ads in mobile applications, the exact same way.
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Apple IS interested in making ad money. they run iAd. also, gmail literally lives in the cloud and can be accessed from any browser on any device.

Also, Googles, doesnt sell or share your personally identifiably information. thats a myth as well.

I understand this is an Apple community, and you guys love Apple products and services. i personally feel that Gmail is a very robust and useful email system, that really makes my life easier because of the way they approach email. Thats my opinion.

No email is immune from spam, the more you use the address on the internet , the more spam will come. Google has done a great job with Priority features, i rarely see spam in my inbox.

Apple provides iAD to developers. They don't force them to use it. @Me accounts are cloud as well. No difference there.

https://www.icloud.com/

Works from any machine.
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Apple provides iAD to developers. They don't force them to use it. @Me accounts are cloud as well. No difference there.

https://www.icloud.com/

Works from any machine.


Apple is a hardware/software company first. Google is an internet company. completely different philosophy on advertising than Apple. Just saying that Apple is entering the same space that Google has built their business on. It doesnt mean Apple is good and Google is bad.

I can understand that you dont want to be part of that model, but the internet is a big place and its really difficult to use without running into that scenario. People have this idea that Google is doing something evil or bad. There are tons of NON internet companies doing the exact same thing.

iCloud email service, still doenst have parity with Gmail as far as being cloud based. You need Lion, or IOS5 to even access it. not the same as picking up any device with a browser and going to gmail.com, and reading your email.
post #28 of 48
Good. Gmail does not work well in iOS's 'Mail' app. Anyway, I want to separate Google's spam from my .mac email.
post #29 of 48
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Originally Posted by blaquekyd View Post

Apple is a hardware/software company first. Google is an internet company. completely different philosophy on advertising than Apple. Just saying that Apple is entering the same space that Google has built their business on. It doesnt mean Apple is good and Google is bad.

I can understand that you dont want to be part of that model, but the internet is a big place and its really difficult to use without running into that scenario. People have this idea that Google is doing something evil or bad. There are tons of NON internet companies doing the exact same thing.

iCloud email service, still doenst have parity with Gmail as far as being cloud based. You need Lion, or IOS5 to even access it. not the same as picking up any device with a browser and going to gmail.com, and reading your email.

You really should read up on iCloud man. It does not require Lion. Compatible with XP, Win7 as well, or you can just use a browser like gmail.

Try clicking the link above. You'll find it works just like any other browser based email. Even the bookmark sync works fine on XP/Win7.
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post #30 of 48
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You really should read up on iCloud man. It does not require Lion. Compatible with XP, Win7 as well, or you can just use a browser like gmail.

Try clicking the link above. You'll find it works just like any other browser based email. Even the bookmark sync works fine on XP/Win7.

you cant set up icloud without lion or IOS 5. i got that information by clicking that link and trying to log in with my Apple Id.
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you cant set up icloud without lion or IOS 5. i got that information by clicking that link and trying to log in with my Apple Id.

Agreed, however, it works on any flavor of OS X or Windows after the setup. Only the setup itself requires the use (or at least access to) of iOS 5 or OS X 10.7.2. After setup, it doesn't matter.
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After more than three years since Apple launched the App Store, Google is rumored to be on the verge of releasing a native iOS app for its Gmail service ... Siegler went on to note that tipsters have said the app looks "pretty fantastic…perhaps even surprisingly so." ...

If it is good it will be surprising. At least if by "good" one means "well designed."

I'm sure there are a lot of GMail addicts that will be happy to finally have all the overly complicated ugly features of GMail on their phone, but if it actually looks good and is a pleasure to use that would be only the second product Google makes make that is. (Google Plus being the first well-designed app I've ever seen from them).
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After more than three years since Apple launched the App Store, Google is rumored to be on the verge of releasing a native iOS app for its Gmail service, according to a new report.

I use my Gmail account much more than @me. Using iCloud for a little while has me convinced Apple still doesn't get email. It is clunky and has so many features lacking. No priority email, labels, or folders. Even AOL Phoenix has far surpassed Apple's email (pretty pathetic if you ask me). The full features alone in Gmail are worth an additional app download, at least to me.

I primarily use my Gmail account on my desktop for it's ease of use and having a Google submitted app with push and most of the features from the desktop web site would be great. The mobile Safari gmail site is not exactly optimal for someone who prefers using native iOS apps.

Hotmail/Live, Yahoo, AOL, Gmail all have better email clients (and options) than Apple. The only difference is Apple's Mail app is integrated into iOS.
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"I believe it has already been submitted to Apple for review. If it gets approved, it should be out soon," he wrote, adding that he believes it will get approved.

Apple should just sit on it for months and months, pretending that they are "evaluating" it. Like they did with Google Voice (or was it with Google Latitude?) and that way they can pretend that they did not ever "reject" it.

Keeps the Antitrust crowd quiet.


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If Apple was interested in making ad money, it would have monetized its online services a long time ago.

Apple craves ad money. They invested hundreds of millions into the failed iAd initiative, and reportedly lost potential customers due to interference in the creative process.
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this is right from Google.

How does Google protect my privacy when it comes to advertising?
We make protecting privacy a priority by being clear about what information we collect and how we will use the information to show relevant ads, and by offering choices to consumers about what information to share with us. We also make it easy for you to view, manage and opt out of interest-based ads shown on AdSense partner sites, certain Google sites and also on Third Party and certain Google Applications and other clients. We will not collect, sell, or share personally identifying information from ad serving cookies without your explicit consent
.

iAd serves you ads in mobile applications, the exact same way.

This is right from google CEO Eric Schmidt:

"google policy is to get right up to the creepy line and not cross it"


However, he followed that by saying: "With your permission you give us more information about you, about your friends, and we can improve the quality of our searches. We don't need you to type at all. We know where you are. We know where you've been. We can more or less know what you're thinking about."

There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image; make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to the outer limits.
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Originally Posted by Doctor David View Post

This is right from google CEO Eric Schmidt:

"google policy is to get right up to the creepy line and not cross it"


However, he followed that by saying: "With your permission you give us more information about you, about your friends, and we can improve the quality of our searches. We don't need you to type at all. We know where you are. We know where you've been. We can more or less know what you're thinking about."

There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image; make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to the outer limits.

Thanks for the Outer Limits quote, I'm getting so old and confused, I can't even remember the TV shows I enjoyed in the 60s. I'm away to trawl YouTube now...
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Originally Posted by Doctor David View Post

This is right from google CEO Eric Schmidt:

"google policy is to get right up to the creepy line and not cross it"


However, he followed that by saying: "With your permission you give us more information about you, about your friends, and we can improve the quality of our searches. We don't need you to type at all. We know where you are. We know where you've been. We can more or less know what you're thinking about."

There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image; make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to the outer limits.

The issue of privacy is very interesting dialog. I don't feel that Google is creepy, and if you know how Eric Schmit is, he always says dumb things like that, jokingly, but with dry humor. How we view our online privacy is different on a case by case basis. I personally dont mind having my information farmed to present better adverts. What is the harm to me as an end user? Foursquare, Facebook, Twitter, Google, Yahoo, Microsoft and yes, Appple are all guilty of this practice. If the reason for not using Google services is to somehow remain private and keep your information away from advertising agencies, a lot of other things in a normal internet using person's life would have to change along with not using Google. You know, like not using an iphone that keeps track of your every move from the date of purchase, without informing customers.
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Thanks for the Outer Limits quote, I'm getting so old and confused, I can't even remember the TV shows I enjoyed in the 60s. I'm away to trawl YouTube now...

Where I grabbed that quote said all 49(?) episodes were on hulu.
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I am not suggesting you shouldn't use Google's services if you are happy. I, however, am not happy. Google's business model is different then Apple's business model. With Apple you are the customer, and with Google you are the product. I also have had bad experience with Google.

First, Google's gmail servers where hacked, most likely by the Chinese government (according to the Wiki Leak cables). The next thing I know is I start getting email messages from my step father's gmail account that seemed like they were from him asking for monetary help, but weren't really from him. Further, he lost access to the account and five years worth of email with it. Google never helped him regain access.

Second, two months ago the same thing happened to me. All my contacts were sent a virus. I was able to regain access because Google changed its procedures to address hacked accounts. However, the account was compromised, and unlike with Apple, it is next to impossible to talk with a person.

Third, Google's whole purpose of providing any service is to make its search services more valuable to advertisers. Apple has iAds, but it isn't Apple's primary form of business, and Jobs publicly said its Cloud services were going to be ad free. I personally think iAd was just an attempt to put a hurt on Google's money making source.



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Apple IS interested in making ad money. they run iAd. also, gmail literally lives in the cloud and can be accessed from any browser on any device.

Also, Googles, doesnt sell or share your personally identifiably information. thats a myth as well.

I understand this is an Apple community, and you guys love Apple products and services. i personally feel that Gmail is a very robust and useful email system, that really makes my life easier because of the way they approach email. Thats my opinion.

No email is immune from spam, the more you use the address on the internet , the more spam will come. Google has done a great job with Priority features, i rarely see spam in my inbox.
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