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The addition of easier Hotmail setup in the Mail app of Apple's iOS 5 has led to a surge in activations for Microsoft, with almost 100,000 new iOS 5 devices logging in to the email service every day.

Microsoft's Chris Jones revealed in an official blog post on Wednesday that over 2 million iOS 5 users have linked their Hotmail accounts to iPhones or iPads. That number continues to increase rapidly, at the rate of nearly 100,000 iOS 5 devices a day.

The majority of those devices are iPhones. 40 percent are using the iPhone 4 to log in, while 24 percent already have the iPhone 4S. Another 12 percent of Hotmail connections to iOS 5 come from the iPhone 3GS.

Pre-iOS 5 devices can still set up Hotmail, but they have to go through a slightly more complicated Microsoft Exchange setup process.

News of the Redmond, Wash., software company's success comes as rival Google has faced a backlash over its official Gmail app. After reports surfaced on Tuesday pointing to an imminent launch of a long-awaited native app for Gmail, Google released the application on Wednesday, but quickly pulled it when a bug in the software's push notification feature was discovered.



Distribution of iOS 5 devices for Hotmail.

Users who had obtained the app before it was taken down were quick to pan it as half-baked. TechCrunch's Sarah Perez called it "unusable" and a big disappointment." Others pointed out that, since the program was just a wrapper around the UIWebView, it offered little more than buggy push notifications.

According to research group ComScore, Hotmail is the world's largest web-based email service, with Yahoo Mail in second and Gmail in third. Apple is also pushing its own email service as part of iCloud. Users who sign up for iCloud receive a free me.com email account that will automatically sync messages across all their devices.

However, some users report having trouble creating new me.com accounts or merging old MobileMe accounts with their AppleIDs.

Also, Microsoft's not the only company to see a jump in users due to iOS 5. Twitter CEO Dick Costolo said last month that iOS signups jumped by more than three times previous rates following the release of iOS 5. Apple worked closely with Twitter to integrate the social network at a system-wide level for iOS 5.
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Pretty neat. Didn't realise Hotmail could be set up on the email app on iOS 5!
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Pretty neat. Didn't realise Hotmail could be set up on the email app on iOS 5!

Isn't that kind of like setting Alta Vista as your search engine?
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In other news: Apple introduce the iGun to shoot yourself in the head.

When people talk of email issues, it's amazing how often it turns out they use Hotmail.
Why the hell anyone would choose hotmail in this day and age is beyond me.
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Pre IOS5 devices have to use Microsoft exchange? Sadly I must correct you, because Pre iOS 5 devices namely IOS 4 only have to press the button that says "Other" at the bottom of the mail service providers list. Then simply type their name, email address and password. Hotmail has been covered by IOS for quite some time as knowen providers however it simply was not listed as "Hotmail" in the mail service providers list.
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When people talk of email issues, it's amazing how often it turns out they use Hotmail.
Why the hell anyone would choose hotmail in this day and age is beyond me.

Changing your email ranks up there with changing your cell number. Especially as people will have lots of old personal mail in their inbox - most I know have been using it since the days of MSN Messenger.
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I have 101 people in my contact list. Not a single one has a hotmail address.
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I have 101 people in my contact list. Not a single one has a hotmail address.

Maybe it has improved since the days I tried it in the 1990s .. and had to abandon the address to the spammers five weeks later. I have six hotmails out of 180 on my contacts list.

Oh.. and I had some probs initially with the me.com to iCloud thing but the glitches went away after a week without any action on my part.
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I have 101 people in my contact list. Not a single one has a hotmail address.

I don't have a single Hotmail either.

The web UI of it is hideous as well IMO

Sidenote: I'm disappointed in the Gmail app Google presented to iOS users. What a pathetic move. The Google+ app looks and works proper so it's obvious they are capable.
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IMHO, Microsoft, Facebook and Google should hire Apple to create iPhone applications for them.
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Is it really that much easier to set up in iOS5 vs. iOS4? It's been a year now since I set it up in iOS4, but I don't recall it being so much more cumbersome.

I do, however, remember it being more cumbersome in iOS3 (or was it the first release of iOS4?). Anyhow, it became easier at some point but I am not convinced it was the upgrade to iOS5 that was the magical transition.
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Yahoo Mail has improved quite a bit recently. Their UI's since the beginning of time (not just mail) were some of the worst to have ever graced the internet.
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IMHO, Microsoft, Facebook and Google should hire Apple to create iPhone applications for them.

Well, Apple did review the Google gmail app and they too missed the bug. So I'd say Apple and Google both goofed on that one.
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Hotmail services, if I recall are the backend of the MSN Mail Services.
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I have 101 people in my contact list. Not a single one has a hotmail address.

I think you have a point. I have 850 contacts and only 15 are hotmail.
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For many years now I've Junked anything from HotMail automatically!
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Well, Apple did review the Google gmail app and they too missed the bug. So I'd say Apple and Google both goofed on that one.

It's not just the bug, it's the fact that it's a web wrapper. Super pathetic.
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For many years now I've Junked anything from HotMail automatically!

Lol. Everything I've gotten from Hotmail has been spam from people who happen to have had me as a contact.

"I made $900 an hour and you can to. Check here for details: www.spam.com/spam"
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Who uses Hotmail? Spammers that's who.
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The addition of easier Hotmail setup in the Mail app of Apple's iOS 5 has led to a surge in activations for Microsoft, with almost 100,000 new iOS 5 devices logging in to the email service every day.

This is news? Majorcrap thinks they had a hand in facilitating this? Oh yeah, it's the PR and perception that they're cutting edge and user friendly, when actually it's Apple Mail that enabled this process.
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Changing your email ranks up there with changing your cell number. Especially as people will have lots of old personal mail in their inbox - most I know have been using it since the days of MSN Messenger.

Have had my Yahoo.co.uk address for the last 13 years, despite the mountains of spam I doub't I'll change any time soon.
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Have had my Yahoo.co.uk address for the last 13 years, despite the mountains of spam I doub't I'll change any time soon.

iCoud Mail which is free gets virtually no spam at all thanks to the excellent and trainable junk mail system, it is IMAP and syncs across all devices and is integrated deeply in many other Apple apps ... not sure why anyone with a Mac or iDevice would want for anything else. Obviously company mail and web based systems using domains are required too but as to these last century freebies such as hotmail, aol etc. ... they are so associated with spam I'd avoid them like the plague.
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I somehow did not expect to see 'hotmail' and 'iPhone' in the same sentence.
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iCoud Mail which is free gets virtually no spam at all thanks to the excellent and trainable junk mail system, it is IMAP and syncs across all devices and is integrated deeply in many other Apple apps ... not sure why anyone with a Mac or iDevice would want for anything else. Obviously company mail and web based systems using domains are required too but as to these last century freebies such as hotmail, aol etc. ... they are so associated with spam I'd avoid them like the plague.

Because not everyone feels like going to all their online accounts and changing their e-mail address, notifying all of their contacts, or maybe, you know just maybe, they use that service for instant messaging as well? I use gmail (will never touch Apple's solutions) but will always keep my Hotmail account active because of all my contacts on Windows Live Messenger and it's tied to my XBOX Live account. My Yahoo! account very active as well since I have a lot of people who use that as well for IM.
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Hotmail = Anonymous address for identity to rant in a blogs' comments or subscribe to porn.
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Maybe it has improved since the days I tried it in the late 90s .. ./ ... .

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these are existing Hotmail users that are now using their iPhones etc to access their existing accounts. That's a bit different than the misleading headline.
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Isn't that kind of like setting Alta Vista as your search engine?

Kinda sorta... But as an added bonus you are 99.999% more likely to get a virus or malware or some other communicable abnormality... YES I'm joking...
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Originally Posted by monstrosity View Post

In other news: Apple introduce the iGun to shoot yourself in the head.

When people talk of email issues, it's amazing how often it turns out they use Hotmail.
Why the hell anyone would choose hotmail in this day and age is beyond me.

Spam dumpster. Why you would want that on your phone however is beyond me.
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Hotmail = Anonymous address for identity to rant in a blogs' comments or subscribe to porn.

... or as a junk mailbox for those times when you enter a contest at the mall.

I think I'll get a hotmail address today... for all the reasons above.
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I have 101 people in my contact list. Not a single one has a hotmail address.

Hotmail: A July 2011 post on the official Microsoft blog claimed Hotmail served 360 million unique users a month. According to August 2011 statistics cited by Yahoo! (see the About page here), Hotmail is the biggest webmail provider with over 330 million unique users. The latest Factsheet (albeit September 2010) from Microsoft notes that "Windows Live Hotmail is one of the world's largest e-mail providers with more than 355 million active accounts". In March, 2010, a Group Program Manager at Windows Live Hotmail wrote that the service had over 369 million active users.


http://www.email-marketing-reports.c...statistics.htm
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I had no idea Hotmail was still around.

Just joking. I've had a Hotmail account for years that I solely use for junk mail signups. Meaning, I use it when I sign up for a new account to post or download or whatever reason that I want to maintain a barrier between them and me. I check it only when I sign up for something. Not sure I want that mixed in with my "legit" accounts on my phone.

I kind of look at hotmail addresses in the same light as AOL ones. Yes, some still have those, I think.

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Well, Apple did review the Google gmail app and they too missed the bug. So I'd say Apple and Google both goofed on that one.

I think Apple reviews apps to make sure they follow Apple's guidelines. I don't think Apple cares if they work.

The point I was trying to make is that Google, Microsoft and Facebook should hire Apple to create their applications because the aforementioned companies can't seem to create applications that work and are pleasing to the eye.
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Isn't that kind of like setting Alta Vista as your search engine?

Wish this forum had a like button.
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People Still Use Hotmail? I have 101 people in my contact list. Not a single one has a hotmail address.

If you own your own domain name you can use that with Hotmail for free, so you may have people using Hotmail without the @hotmail.com.

Also any live.com addresses? That's what I use.

I switched from using Hotmail & Yahoo to Gmail in early 2005 because both Hotmail & Yahoo mail were spam filled shit.

Then about 12 months ago I re-evaluated both Hotmail & Yahoo. Yahoo had improved but the biggest change by far was with Hotmail.

With Hotmail the spam filtering is now first class. In 12 months I haven't received a single spam email - that includes my new @live account as well as my very old @hotmail account that I whored to the Internet underworld for many many years.

Along with mail Hotmail also sync's contacts, calendars & reminders with my iDevices faultlessly.

I also found the Hotmail web UI to be the most intuitive and powerful of the three.

The two worst parts of Hotmail:
  • the actual @hotmail address which is generally looked down on as most people are working off knowledge from 5-10 years ago. You can get around this with an @live address or by using your own domain.
  • the ads which are displayed as graphics instead of text like in Gmail. The only way to remove ads is to pay for the service.

Overall the Hotmail pros certainly outweigh the cons.
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Who uses Hotmail? Spammers that's who.

By logic, are you saying there are 100,000 users of iOS 5 who spam added each day?
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I think Apple reviews apps to make sure they follow Apple's guidelines. I don't think Apple cares if they work.

Nope. Functionality is a strict criteria.

Non-working junk apps are rejected immediately.
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If you own your own domain name you can use that with Hotmail for free, so you may have people using Hotmail without the @hotmail.com.

Also any live.com addresses? That's what I use.

I switched from using Hotmail & Yahoo to Gmail in early 2005 because both Hotmail & Yahoo mail were spam filled shit.

Then about 12 months ago I re-evaluated both Hotmail & Yahoo. Yahoo had improved but the biggest change by far was with Hotmail.

With Hotmail the spam filtering is now first class. In 12 months I haven't received a single spam email - that includes my new @live account as well as my very old @hotmail account that I whored to the Internet underworld for many many years.

Along with mail Hotmail also sync's contacts, calendars & reminders with my iDevices faultlessly.

I also found the Hotmail web UI to be the most intuitive and powerful of the three.

The two worst parts of Hotmail:
  • the actual @hotmail address which is generally looked down on as most people are working off knowledge from 5-10 years ago. You can get around this with an @live address or by using your own domain.
  • the ads which are displayed as graphics instead of text like in Gmail. The only way to remove ads is to pay for the service.

Overall the Hotmail pros certainly outweigh the cons.

THIS!

Most posts in this thread have simply been opinions based on imagined view of Hotmail/Live today.
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I suppose there had to be a stupid enough reason to create an account on this site.

I've used a hotmail account for years and don't have any intention of switching. In fact, I use gmail as my junk email account. If you're happy with google using you as their product, then that's your choice.

I realize it should be about preference, but anyone who believes hotmail isn't legitimate is obviously showing their ignorance and age.
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If you own your own domain name you can use that with Hotmail for free, [...]

Hey, thanks, I did not know that! I'll consider that when I finally set my self to moving my email accounts off of Google's services, which only seem to get worse over time.

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