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Of all the people on this forum you could have asked, you chose the wrong one, man.

Well, I can't judge for that, which is why it's phrased as a question, not as an affirmation like "you did not build anything"

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Social Capitalist, dreamer and wise enough to know I'm never going to grow up anyway... so not trying anymore.

 

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post #82 of 88
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Originally Posted by stelligent View Post

Did I understand you correctly - When you enter a query in the Safari web search box, you get no ads in the results? That's just not true in general. Only weird queries generate no ads.

Mobile Safari. I see no ads. If you do, where are they?
post #83 of 88
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

Unless I am mistaken, companies pay Google for their position in search results -- through things like ad words.

So, even if you see no ads, you are seeing a list of results where the companies that pay the most are at the top of the list on the 1st page of results.

That's "Front Page, Above the Fold" in the Newspaper business, "Aisle End-Cap Displays" and "Eye-level Shelves" in the Supermarket business, "Outside Back Cover" then "Inside Front Cover" in the Magazine business, A "Window Display" in your favorite phone store ...

It's called Placement.

I still don't see what Siri has to do with this. If you ask Siri something and it doesn't understand (which is most of the time), it'll search the web for you. Which is your preferred search engine in Mobile Safari.

I'm sorry but I find this article contrived.
post #84 of 88
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Originally Posted by jowie74 View Post

I still don't see what Siri has to do with this. If you ask Siri something and it doesn't understand (which is most of the time), it'll search the web for you. Which is your preferred search engine in Mobile Safari.

I'm sorry but I find this article contrived.

The story is about the potential of Siri.

Siri will learn and need to fail-through to generic web searches less and less over time.

When Google first appeared on the scene -- it wasn't as good as Yahoo and some others.

But, over time Google improved -- as will Siri!

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post #85 of 88
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

The story is about the potential of Siri.

Siri will learn and need to fail-through to generic web searches less and less over time.

When Google first appeared on the scene -- it wasn't as good as Yahoo and some others.

But, over time Google improved -- as will Siri!


A little off topic here, don't know who else to mention it to, but does Siri do well with the new American standard female itty-bitty-girl accent with the flat "A" and the mincing other vowels? As in, "think yew" (mouth barely opening, lips pulled back to a smiling grimace) instead of thank you?

Do you have any such females around to test? My thought is that little girls could learn NOT to talk like that by using Siri. She actually talks like an adult.

As you may have guessed, I am annoyed by this accent. We're now getting NPR voices with this disability, which I think comes from watching cartoons and learning English from children's TV.
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Originally Posted by jowie74 View Post

Mobile Safari. I see no ads. If you do, where are they?

They are at the top or at the bottom, looking quite similar to the actual search results except there is a faint yellow background with the label "Ads" in the top right corner. The ads do not show up for every search. Sometimes they show up only at the top, sometimes at the bottom, sometimes in both places. And yes, I'm talking about Mobile Safari.
post #87 of 88
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

The story is about the potential of Siri.

Siri will learn and need to fail-through to generic web searches less and less over time.

When Google first appeared on the scene -- it wasn't as good as Yahoo and some others.

But, over time Google improved -- as will Siri!


I surely hope it will improve, and not end up like Ping or FaceTime.
post #88 of 88
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Originally Posted by shawnb View Post

So what happens when websites that rely on ad revenues start blocking Siri requests?

They'd start blocking a massive number of potential customers, which would be stupid.

Customers drive business, if you want to survive you must find a way to market yourself in the user index of choice. How much did the web kill ad sales for phone books? Look at newspapers, the web has wrecked havock on them.

Things change, if you don't like it then business really isn't for you. Google needs to stop whining & compete.
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