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The case for Apple TV

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No, not the hobby set top box. An actual full HD Apple TV. Before the iPhone 4s and the autobiography of Steve Jobs I was firmly in the camp poo-pooing this idea. The two most glaring arguments against apple doing it is 'cost' and 'distinguishability'.

Cost. First off the minimum size for any respectable HD panel nowadays is 32". 42" is the sweet spot in my humble opinion. If Apple were to make an actual TV they would have to market at a very high price indeed to make the same margins as their other products, somewhere even above the Mac Pro price. Pricey TVs don't sell even if it's Apple branded. And they take up a lot of space, weight a lot, therefore costing more all around to store, ship, display, etc.

Distinguishability. Go to your local electronics retailer and look at the tv offerings. Other than branding and tv sizes, and sticker prices, what else jumps out at you as different at one glance? How can Apple differentiate their offering in the face of that reality?

It's also mentioned over and over by analysts and observers that despite it being a $100 plus billion industry it is very cutthroat, with paper thin margins. People hold onto their TV sets for 5 plus years at least if not longer. It's hard not to see why getting into this industry seems foolish. Consumer electronics = cutthroat.

Then again this is Apple we're talking about. See iPod, iPhone, iPad. Not a bad track record considering.

In comes Siri on iOS.

Apple releases one tv, a 42" HDTV powered by the latest ARM and graphics architecture, running on iOS, controlled by iPhone, iPad, and most importantly, Siri voice controls. You've seen what Siri can do, imagine what it will be capable of. I for one would love to do away with the tv remote, bloated with funtions most of which I will never use. "Siri switch to 'insert tv channel here'.""Siri, record show","Siri, pull up news ticker/weather/stocks","Siri, check email"

By being iOS powered it also leverages the app ecosystem Apple has built around its other iOS devices and tie them in further. Current iOS users would be heavily inclined to buy Apple's TV rather than consider other offerings. Should I get a new tv or computer? How about a tv that has a computer in it?

It also becomes a formidable gaming machine. Xbox360/PS3/WiiU beware. Not only will this take on the TV set industry it'll take a bite out of the console gaming industry at the same time. Win.

Siri will distinguish an Apple tv from the pack in terms of usability, functionality, and ecosystem.

As for cost, the flat panel is what will make it cost more. The possible income from multiple industries - tv, gaming, computing, movies and tv, should more than make up for any thin margins on the tv itself.
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Rebuttal: What could a $3,000 Apple HDTV do that a $99 Apple TV couldn't?

The television is the third oldest electronics market out there.

It's saturated. People who want a TV already have a TV. That is a statement of fact.

More than hardware, it's software that will define Apple's entrance into television.

More than a new means by which to control television, how said content is presented will define Apple's SUCCESS in television (post-"hobby").

End rebuttal.

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Rebuttal: What could a $3,000 Apple HDTV do that a $99 Apple TV couldn't?

The television is the third oldest electronics market out there.

It's saturated. People who want a TV already have a TV. That is a statement of fact.

More than hardware, it's software that will define Apple's entrance into television.

More than a new means by which to control television, how said content is presented will define Apple's SUCCESS in television (post-"hobby").

End rebuttal.

Your first question is answered by your last observation.
As for the statement of fact that people who want a tv already have a tv, well, how do you explain it being a 100 billion dollar industry. Switch out the tv and replace it with computer. Do the same with smartphone. See how that argument fails completely?
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Originally Posted by OuterAppleniverse View Post

Your first question is answered by your last observation.
As for the statement of fact that people who want a tv already have a tv, well, how do you explain it being a 100 billion dollar industry. Switch out the tv and replace it with computer. ...

I disagree with the first assertion quoted here. Assuming that your $100 billion figure is correct, the $100 industry's size is explained by the fact that TV set sales form a replacement market.

Replacement markets tend not to be growth markets. This is why you see the ATSC working hard to extend the TV standard to include new functionality such as 3D.
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