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The solution shouldn't be find hardware that can run sh*t software, but to avoid sh*t software in the first place.

I can run the same test on good hardware and it doesn't even make a mark...

That's because you hit "pause" on the video playback

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post #162 of 171
A lot of gloating going on in here which is to be expected given the inconvenience of missing sites or parts of sites on the iPhone, and the vindication of SJ.

Flash will take a long time to go away- you have to admit you see it on tons of sites right now, right this second. The desktop version can't be continued for too long either now- but this is going to take years! So for me this is good riddance, but with some transition pain involved that is not a good thing.

I am happy that in the future open standards will be able to accomplish the same things flash did. Until then I will be able to surf the flash sites (when I choose to by clicking on them) Everyone is forgetting that smooth anims, sound, and complex routines did not exist on web pages before shockwave and flash. HTML-5 can finally replace it at this point.

What people have not addressed here is the downside to the controlling aspect of Apple's strategies. If I buy a $400 piece of hardware it should be my right to install ANY software even if it's buggy and power hungry. Especially an on demand plugin like flash. It's right in line with corporate policy to make life tough for other threats to the itunes juggernaut.

Unless my phone is gonna catch on fire or something there is no reason to treat me like I am 5 years old. I hate the censorship and the rigid control over development that Apple insists on. It seems like the company started with an anti-big-brother attitude, but right now they are the big gorilla with the hordes of lawyers, PI's, and control of a platform with API's that they keep private so they always have the edge. (that last strategy has historically been a big- and true- complaint against Microsoft from Mac-headz)

If Mr. Jobs (who I greatly admire) was right about flash, he used all the might and power of Apple to help make it happen! With the # of iphones out and the iPad dominance that doesn't exactly make him Nostradamus as flash sites became a bad choice for any developer not wanting to significantly shrink their market.

Anyway, so long flash- it always irritated me too- just glad I was given the choice to use it when I felt like it.

Sincerely,
Just another developer on both iOS and Android
post #163 of 171
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"Apple didnt favor its own proprietary plugin over Flash. Theres no QuickTime plugin on iOS either. Apples view was, and is, that there should be no proprietary web browser plugins, period."

So if I understand it right, Flash is dead at last and Adobe is dead too, all great!
So then which tools should I use from now on for some animation visual content / interactivity / all platforms compatible products? HTML5 + Java? QuickTime?
Thanks in advance.

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post #164 of 171
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So if I understand it right, Flash is dead at last and Adobe is dead too, all great!
So then which tools should I use from now on for some animation visual content / interactivity / all platforms compatible products? HTML5 + Java? QuickTime?
Thanks in advance.

I don't think there's anything in the article to suggest that "Adobe's dead". I think this actually will help them focus on improving their creation tools.
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post #165 of 171
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I don't think there's anything in the article to suggest that "Adobe's dead". I think this actually will help them focus on improving their creation tools.

They can start by having the same shortcuts across all of their tools.

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


lol. fantastic!
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Originally Posted by GQB View Post

I'll supply the laughing face for you... That's the only way that makes sense.

Right. Standards please. Flash and whatnot are a right pain for screwing up even the most simple of tasks. Sure it maybe be mostly a mac problem but we hardly want to www to be run by one gang be it microsoft, apple or adobe. Open standards have to be the way forwards even if practically ever company is pushing some proprietary plugin to crash your browser with.
post #168 of 171
Flashblock has long been my "Hide everything idiotic on the web" control.

Flash has long been the honeypot for terrible/annoying designs, now they are going to run free.

Trashy, gaudy, flashy, lame interfaces. Annoying animated ads, all get reduced to nothing with a simple block of flash.

Now I fear all this garbage will escape the easily switched off flash ghetto.
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Originally Posted by Snowdog65 View Post

Now I fear all this garbage will escape the easily switched off flash ghetto.

In some ways but if it uses Canvas, you can get a simple addon to strip those from the DOM. You can also disable Javascript with a click and turn it back on for sites that require it.
post #170 of 171
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Originally Posted by Aquatic View Post

Yay, no more choice!

This is not a "win" for anyone, although it's not the worst thing ever. I am fine with open standards that work, but for now, most of the web uses Flash.

I don't care what the iFanboys say. This is the way the world works. Guess what. Most sites use Flash. Most computers use Windows. That is how it is.

Flash is resource-intensive and full of security holes, sure. But Adobe continued to improve it on both mobile and MacOS X. Now it's cancelled for mobile. Oh well. It's not good, but it's also not the end of the world. Hopefully over the next few years, sites will settle on ONE or a few open standards, so that everyone can access the full web on mobile. Standards are important. Especially when it comes to the web. Fragmentation helps no one.

Most site needlessly use Flash and violate ADA rules because the people designing the sites are to put it bluntly idiots.

As for most computers using Windows yes but it is a version of Windows that is 10 years old! As good as Windows 7 is the Windows community is still hanging on to XP like grim death and this is hampering the web.
post #171 of 171
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Flashblock has long been my "Hide everything idiotic on the web" control.

Flash has long been the honeypot for terrible/annoying designs, now they are going to run free.

Trashy, gaudy, flashy, lame interfaces. Annoying animated ads, all get reduced to nothing with a simple block of flash.

Now I fear all this garbage will escape the easily switched off flash ghetto.

Good point. Crap.
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