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Late Apple co-founder Steve Jobs was nominated to be Time magazine's Person of the Year, and if selected could could become the first person to be posthumously awarded the distinction.

It was announced on Wednesday that the late Jobs was nominated by "NBC Nightly News" anchor Brian Williams to be Time's 2011 Person of the Year, something that the magazine has never done, according to CBS News.

Williams led the annual panel debate in New York, along with Time's Managing Editor Rich Stengel who noted that the publication has "never actually chosen a dead person" as Person of the Year. Panelists included actor Jesse Eisenberg, Saturday Night Live head writer Seth Meyers, lawyer and professor Anita Hill, lobbyist Grover Norquist, and chef Mario Batali.

"One guy, who changed our world, and I said to Seth Meyers as we walked across Sixth Avenue, 'Just look with me on this one block walk at how he changed the world around us. Look at how he changed the world,'" Williams said during his nomination speech. "'Oh the places you'll go' and oh the way you will change forever the music and television industries. So may he rest in peace, Steve Jobs, and the spirit he represents, are my nominee for Person of the Year."

Besides Jobs, notable nominees inlude U.S. Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren, the late Tunisian fruit vendor credited for starting the Arab Spring Mohamed Bouazizi and lead organizer of the uprising in Cairo Esraa Abdel Fatah.

Much of the debate focused on whether a deceased individual should be given the distinction, with Eisenberg saying that doing so would be akin to the Oscars giving best director to someone who just died when they really deserved a lifetime achievement award.

However, it seemed Jobs was the leading contender in the debate as Batali and Norquist both agreed with Williams' nomination.

The smartphone has changed the world as much as the Bible has, Batali said.

Jobs has been previously nominated for the honor, coming up short last year to Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg.

Time's Person of the Year will be revealed in December.

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This lets them repackage and sell what they wrote about Jobs in October for a whole new edition at the end of the year. Does anyone think Jobs won't get this?
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post #3 of 67
Batali's statement that the smartphone has changed the world as much as the Bible will get him some heat.
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Man of the Year: Mohamed Bouazizi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_spring
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Batali's statement that the smartphone has changed the world as much as the Bible will get him some heat.

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"Death to infidels and blasphemers.

Sent from my iPhone"


I mean, this is America where people couldn't handle John Lennon saying the Beatles were bigger than Jesus and he thought that was a bad thing. I think it's just plain dumb to say considering all the wars that have been fought for religion, when the strongest war you have in smartphones is iOS vs Android heh.
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A Chinese proverb says, "May you live in interesting times." Steve Jobs has made ALL of our lives more interesting....
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I think Steve Jobs will win it.

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Why?

Sure Apple did well this year, and many mourn the passing of Jobs, but there were no truly significant products introduced this year, merely updates on existing devices/designs.
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Zuckerberg was certainly less deserving than Steve already. Better late than never. \

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post #11 of 67
“The smartphone has changed the world as much as the Bible has.”

The Bible may have changed the world, but whether it actually made the world a better place is debatable.
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Why?

Sure Apple did well this year, and many mourn the passing of Jobs, but there were no truly significant products introduced this year, merely updates on existing devices/designs.

Person of the year isn't required to make a widget. Andy Grove was person of the year in 1997 and he didn't build anything that year. You don't even have to be nice: Hitler won the award in 1938. Historically, to be Person of the Year, you need to be in the news a lot - and Steve was. The fact that his impact on society is frequently compared to Walt Disney, Henry Ford and Thomas Edison increases his odds. The fact that Steve's business reached a milestone this year as most valuable company in the world, after being near bankruptcy when he arrived, is a plus in his favor.

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Too many questionable and unethical news surrounding Steve and Apple. I hope he doesn't get it.

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Person of the year isn't required to make a widget. Andy Grove was person of the year once and he didn't build anything that year. You don't even have to be nice: Hitler won the award in 1938. Historically, to be Person of the Year, you need to be in the news a lot - and Steve was. The fact that his impact on society is frequently compared to Walt Disney, Henry Ford and Thomas Edison increases his odds.

Well then give him some kind of lifetime achievement recognition, because 'Person of the Year' just doesn't seem appropriate in this case.
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Too many questionable and unethical news surrounding Steve and Apple. I hope he doesn't get it.

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post #16 of 67
Meaningless lists of the year.
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post #17 of 67
Steve should get Nobel's peace price
and every other great price there is.

Steves company have changed the whole world to the better. No one else have done that.
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Since he was ousted by "The Computer" during the year he should have been, he better darn well get it.

Then again, it IS Time, so what does it really matter?

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Too many questionable and unethical news surrounding Steve and Apple. I hope he doesn't get it.





Oh, wait. Godwin's Law means that I lose and he's right, doesn't it?

Darn, should have chosen the Stalin cover.

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Man of the Year: Mohamed Bouazizi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_spring

Give me a break.

That moron should get the Darwin award for the year.

You don't give out awards for Man of the Year to idiots who set themselves on fire.
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Too many questionable and unethical news surrounding Steve and Apple. I hope he doesn't get it.

"Too many.... news?!"

Too much booze?
post #21 of 67
As for Steve Jobs being named man of the year from Time magazine, my reply is who gives a crap?

They dissed Steve Jobs many years ago, when he should have been on the cover, and Time magazine is a crappy magazine, so I don't think that they should give him the award now. It's too late and it's a meaningless award.
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Time magazine recognizing multi-billionaire Steve Jobs over the poor Tunisian fruit vendor Mohamed Bouazizi (whose self-immolation sparked the Arab Spring which in turn helped to ignite the Occupy Movement) would NOT be news IMHO.

Acknowledging the catalyst that was one man who would otherwise be invisible to the world at large, whose symbolic suicide called people to action all over the world, demanding accountability and change from their leaders and governments; now THAT would be news (unless perhaps if Steve Jobs had bit a dog)!

And yes, this WAS sent from my iPhone because my Mac Pro, MacBook Pro and work-issued MacBook were not where I read this article from!

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post #23 of 67
I also think that it's pretty sneaky to be giving somebody an award like this posthumously.

Steve Jobs is no longer around to refuse it. How does anybody know if he would have even accepted it?

Who's to say that Time isn't just trying to make money off of his name and face to sell more copies?
post #24 of 67
My thought is that Time must have its head pretty far up its a$$ to never have given it to him before. The dude took a company on the edge of bankruptcy and turned it into the most valuable company in the world, and somehow in not a single one of the years that he was doing that (years in which the iPod, iTunes, iPhone, and iPad were introduced) did he ever get this silly award.

They might as well just give it to the CEO of Adobe.
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Out of Kindness they may give it too him, now that he is gone. He may not have accepted it towards the end of his life. I honestly think he would have told Time magazine to give it to someone else. Why not ask steve wife. I bet she would say no.
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I mean, this is America where people couldn't handle John Lennon saying the Beatles were bigger than Jesus and he thought that was a bad thing. I think it's just plain dumb to say considering all the wars that have been fought for religion, when the strongest war you have in smartphones is iOS vs Android heh.

It's been a bloodbath so far. Hundreds of Fandroid egos were bruised by the discontinuation of their beloved mobile Flash.

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Of what use is it for him dead?
Jobs worked hard for it and craved it when he was alive. The honor was denied him several years in a row and given to some less deserving of the award. What difference will the award make now for him?
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Well then give him some kind of lifetime achievement recognition, because 'Person of the Year' just doesn't seem appropriate in this case.

Steve shall be named 'Person of the 21st Century'. Sorry everyone: voting is now closed. Come back in 89 years.

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Too many questionable and unethical news surrounding Steve and Apple. I hope he doesn't get it.

We'll agree to this if you refrain from using all graphical user interfaces, and multi-touch screens and indeed all Apple equipment, services, or anything inspired by Apple. Stick with MS-DOS and pre-2007 smart phones, for the rest of your life. You live in that world, we'll live in ours.

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We'll agree to this if you refrain from using all graphical user interfaces, and multi-touch screens and indeed all Apple equipment, services, or anything inspired by Apple. Stick with MS-DOS and pre-2007 smart phones, for the rest of your life. You live in that world, we'll live in ours.

Don't forget the World Wide Web.

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post #31 of 67
I don't see why he should win it. He did a lot for computers and the modern world, but nothing this particular year.
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Of what use is it for him dead?
Jobs worked hard for it and craved it when he was alive. The honor was denied him several years in a row and given to some less deserving of the award. What difference will the award make now for him?

You could ask the same question of a eulogy: of what use is it for a dead person to have flowers and nice words thrown at their corpse?

Of what use is it for George Washington that we put his face on the U.S. dollar bill or Mount Rushmore? What difference will the honor make now for him?

Maybe the purpose of posthumous awards isn't for the dead.

Maybe it's for the living, the society they belonged to.

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I don't see why he should win it. He did a lot for computers and the modern world, but nothing this particular year.

They will pick the person that will help them sell the most magazines.
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Don't forget the World Wide Web.

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Whoa. I didn't want to be cruel and cut the guy off from his only source of porn and friendship.

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We'll agree to this if you refrain from using all graphical user interfaces, and multi-touch screens and indeed all Apple equipment, services, or anything inspired by Apple. Stick with MS-DOS and pre-2007 smart phones, for the rest of your life. You live in that world, we'll live in ours.


The "award" is supposed to be for what he accomplished in 2011. Let's see what it was....

January he goes on medical leave of absence.
August he resigns.
October he passes away.

Looks like nothing.



Everything you listed above, Apple was "inspired" from someone else.
Go ahead and continue to live in your world, it gives Leno, Letterman, SNL... good material!

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The "award" is supposed to be for what he accomplished in 2011.

(deleted the other crap)!

You have no idea what you're talking about. To quote Time Magazine, "has done the most to influence the events of the year." That has nothing to do with some direct or purposeful technical or business accomplishment you've imagined it to be. Even Time's statement is somewhat bogus. They will choose the person that will help sell the most magazines.
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The "award" is supposed to be for what he accomplished in 2011

Incorrect. The selections are based on what the magazine describes as who they believed had a stronger influence on history.

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Everything you listed above, Apple was "inspired" from someone else.

LOL when fandroids are backed into a corner... watch out! They'll pull out the But-Apple-didn't-invent-anything-in-a-vacuum-therefore-Apple-deserves-no-credit card.

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LOL when fandroids are backed into a corner... watch out! They'll pull out the But-Apple-didn't-invent-anything-in-a-vacuum-therefore-Apple-deserves-no-credit card.

Even if they did someone would foolishly point out Apple didn't invent the vacuum either.


PS: That's what we call them in the US. I know you Brits like to refer to them by the brand name Hoover.
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... and if selected could could become the first person to be posthumously awarded the distinction.

(a) could could? fer cryin' out loud, spell/syntax/grammar checkers are free.

(b) could become the first person to be posthumously awarded

so even if steve is selected, there's someone else who might be the first person to be posthumously awarded the distinction?
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