Originally Posted by tonton
Again... As if you're still soooo fucking dense you still can't get it through your head that there was absolutely no connection, even though it's been pounded into your thick skull ten thousand times...What the FUCK did Iraq have to do with 9/11 except to justify it in a huge lie?
You support preemptive military invasion in the name of national security. Which is one of the main tenets of Naziism. Don't pretend that you don't and don't lie about some 9/11 bullshit connection.
Still waiting for Powell's tell-all book.
I've never claimed there was a connection. My position is (and has always been) that after 9/11, our "powers that be" changed their thinking
about leaders like Saddam. Whereas pre-9/11 they were willing to keep Saddam in his box, they were no longer willing to take the risk that he might pair with terrorist group of some kind. Saddam was the only world leader (that I know of) that openly praised the attacks, and had a long history or violating the 1991 ceasefire and his WMD disposal agreement.
As for pre-emptive war, I supported this one. First, it wasn't at all unprovoked. Saddam had violated the ceasefire thousands of times. He targeted our aircraft in the No-Fly. He ordered the assassination of former President GHWB. He did not fully cooperate with weapons inspectors over the years, and did not verifiably
disarm. Putting that aside, pre-emptive actions are sometimes necessary. That has nothing to do with Naziism. The Nazis wanted pre-emptive war for territorial reasons and to feed the nationalist fervor.
Anyway, I could never be Marxist, because I will never support the elimination of capitalism. One cannot be a Marxist without accepting that. I could never be a Libertarian because I will never support the elimination of socialism.
I'm not calling you a Marxist.
I do consider myself a socialist because I think socially responsible fiscal policy needs to be emphasized over market freedom,
in a balance that has been successful in all of the most successful European countries,
Yeah, that's going great.
which has not been pushed in the not so successful European countries. [Go ahead, call me a socialist. But don't hyperbolize and call me a Marxist, because it makes it seem like you either don't know what the fuck you're talking about, or you're just a big liar.
Hit a nerve? I'm not calling you either. I'm saying you subscribe to many of their ideas and positions. I think you also live in a fantasy world wrt the success of European economies.