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post #41 of 128
11/10/11 at 12:20pm
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the update improves voice recognition for Australian users using dictation and the Geico gecko has a British accent. My friend Marc from the UK sounds exactly like the Geico gecko.

Is he also 3 inches tall and green?

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post #42 of 128
11/10/11 at 12:27pm
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Originally Posted by greenheaven View Post

My strife is with the Notifications though. It takes way too many steps to set a notification:

Press plus.
Type notification (the little arrow that jumps to notification settings should be visible here already to skip a few steps...)
Tap ready/finished/valmis. (Sorry, Finnish)
Tap notification.
Tap remind.
Choose Date or Location (there could be two sets of scroll wheels here already: date and recent locations)
Tap the default date to launch the scroll wheels (why can't they be visible already at this point?)
Scroll the wheels.
Tap ready or whatever.
Tap ready or whatever again.

Same with location-based notifications... Why can't there be like a list of the most used or recent locations? Please. Anyone?


I was confused until I realized you were referring to Reminders rather than Notifications. Reminders is a feature best used with Siri. Although Apple could optimize the user interface for Reminders the feature set is fairly complete and complex as a result.

In 2012, Siri will support additional languages, including Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Italian, and Spanish. I hope Siri becomes available in Finnish as well eventually. You seem as proficient with English as many native speakers, have you used Siri in English yet?
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post #43 of 128
11/10/11 at 12:36pm
I know the 38 and 55MB sizes seem really small but remember this is a 0.0.1 update, not a 0.1.0 update. Expect the latter to be much larger. Also, don't expect the 1.0.0 update to iOS 6.0 to be OTA.

I don't know why I'm writing this. It's not like going to keep people from complaining when future updates arrive.
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post #44 of 128
11/10/11 at 12:42pm
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Originally Posted by Rob55 View Post

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the update improves voice recognition for Australian users using dictation and the Geico gecko has a British accent. My friend Marc from the UK sounds exactly like the Geico gecko.

Maybe he is the Geico Geko.
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post #45 of 128
11/10/11 at 12:42pm
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Originally Posted by solipsism View Post

I know the 38 and 55MB sizes seem really small but remember this is a 0.0.1 update, not a 0.1.0 update.

I fully expect the OTA updates will vary in size depending on content, but I think the cause for celebration is that it is only a 0.0.1 update and for the first time I haven't needed to download the full 800Mb enchilada (TWICE - iPhone 4 + iPad 2) for a minor release and that has to be a good thing...
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post #46 of 128
11/10/11 at 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

Improves voice recognition for Australian users using dictation

So Siri will finally be able to spell "G'day, Mate"?

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post #47 of 128
11/10/11 at 12:44pm
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Originally Posted by DaveMcM76 View Post

Loving the OTA update thing...

took about 4 or 5 attempts for it to show the update as available, but both my iPhone 4 and iPad 2 both updated in around 10 minutes each...

it used to take around 45 minutes per device just to download the old full release updates on my crappy broadband...

That's strange ... I updated my iPhone and iPad at the same time, and both of them were done in about five minutes.
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post #48 of 128
11/10/11 at 12:46pm
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Originally Posted by blursd View Post

That's strange ... I updated my iPhone and iPad at the same time, and both of them were done in about five minutes.

See the comment about crappy broadband - even at just 40Mb updates still took around 7 minutes each to download...
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post #49 of 128
11/10/11 at 12:50pm
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Originally Posted by jcollin3k View Post

Installed iOS 5.0.1 on my iPhone 4 and all the bugs that have been driving me crazy are still there:

--Calendar app freezing and crashing on first launch. Second launch takes 5+ seconds. Not until the third launch does it open normally.

--After tapping on three things in the Music app a freeze of several seconds happens.

--Shake to shuffle plays the sound notification, then keeps playing the same song for another 2 seconds before changing the song, where it used to play the chime, then instantly change to the next song

--Launching Messages freezes for about 2 seconds, crazy annoying when all you want to do is send a quick text.

Looks like I am being forced to buy an iPhone 4S just like I was forced to buy an iPhone 4 when iOS 4 was released making my iPhone 3G useless due to glacial performance.

At least I am trying to use the Best Buy buyback program to get $167 in trade-in value, if they ever have stock of the 4S soon.

Did the update say it would fix those things?? Really.
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post #50 of 128
11/10/11 at 12:51pm
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Originally Posted by jcollin3k View Post

Installed iOS 5.0.1 on my iPhone 4 and all the bugs that have been driving me crazy are still there:

--Calendar app freezing and crashing on first launch. Second launch takes 5+ seconds. Not until the third launch does it open normally.

--After tapping on three things in the Music app a freeze of several seconds happens.

--Shake to shuffle plays the sound notification, then keeps playing the same song for another 2 seconds before changing the song, where it used to play the chime, then instantly change to the next song

--Launching Messages freezes for about 2 seconds, crazy annoying when all you want to do is send a quick text.

Looks like I am being forced to buy an iPhone 4S just like I was forced to buy an iPhone 4 when iOS 4 was released making my iPhone 3G useless due to glacial performance.

At least I am trying to use the Best Buy buyback program to get $167 in trade-in value, if they ever have stock of the 4S soon.

This does not sound like an iOS 5 set of issues. I've been using it on my Verizon iPhone 4 since it was release without issue. Your issues might be related to a software conflict of some sort?
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post #51 of 128
11/10/11 at 12:57pm
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Is he also 3 inches tall and green?

No, but he is a bit on the short side.
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post #52 of 128
11/10/11 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by JONOROM View Post

So Siri will finally be able to spell "G'day, Mate"?

Actually, yes. I tried it with American English and it didn't understand. I tried it with Australian English, got a response of "Hello!" and it dictated it correctly as "G'day, mate!" I'm not sure if that worked before (I assume it did) but it was fun to see how that setting isn't just to make the user feel like they are in control.
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post #53 of 128
11/10/11 at 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by melgross View Post

Maybe he is the Geico Geko.

For a brief while there, I actually considered the possibility. Then I snapped back to reality.
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post #54 of 128
11/10/11 at 1:05pm
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Originally Posted by DaveMcM76 View Post

I fully expect the OTA updates will vary in size depending on content, but I think the cause for celebration is that it is only a 0.0.1 update and for the first time I haven't needed to download the full 800Mb enchilada (TWICE - iPhone 4 + iPad 2) for a minor release and that has to be a good thing...

Yeah, I didn't mean to take away from that benefit. Over 800MB each time a 0.0.1 update comes out is just too much. Even if it was only the 0.0.1 updates that were OTA it would still be a good thing.
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post #55 of 128
11/10/11 at 1:08pm
with the latest build
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post #56 of 128
11/10/11 at 1:12pm
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Originally Posted by porsche View Post

i see a big improvement in network speed on Sprint

Nice! Was wondering if that would be addressed with this update.. or even if required an iOS update at all.

What kind of speeds are you getting now?
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post #57 of 128
11/10/11 at 1:26pm
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Originally Posted by ghostface147 View Post

I guess people on beta 2 have to go through iTunes. No OTA for me.

Yep, discovered that myself. I should have known better. But once you get this one you should be able to do OTA updates unless you get on another beta.
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post #58 of 128
11/10/11 at 1:28pm
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Originally Posted by jcollin3k View Post

Installed iOS 5.0.1 on my iPhone 4 and all the bugs that have been driving me crazy are still there:

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Looks like I am being forced to buy an iPhone 4S just like I was forced to buy an iPhone 4 when iOS 4 was released making my iPhone 3G useless due to glacial performance.

At least I am trying to use the Best Buy buyback program to get $167 in trade-in value, if they ever have stock of the 4S soon.

Well, I have a new iPhone 4S, and the mail software crashes constantly. many times each day. Sometimes I forget, and try to compose an e-mail, and then remember when the software crashes, and I lose everything I've typed. I'd hold off on buying the new phone, if I were you. I'm seriously considering going back to my trusty iPhone3G, which was slower but it worked.
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post #59 of 128
11/10/11 at 1:31pm
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Originally Posted by Retrogusto View Post

I'd hold off on buying the new phone, if I were you.

This behavior is not indicative of the iPhone 4S as a model. This is errant behavior of your personal device.

Are you on 5.0.1? Try a clean install.
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post #60 of 128
11/10/11 at 1:33pm
I take it this isn't worth downloading if you have no battery life issues and want an untethered jailbreak on iOS 5 as soon as possible?
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post #61 of 128
11/10/11 at 1:34pm
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Originally Posted by Euphonious View Post

I take it this isn't worth downloading if you have no battery life issues and want an untethered jailbreak on iOS 5 as soon as possible?

Yeah, I think you'd want to stay on 5.0.
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post #62 of 128
11/10/11 at 1:35pm
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Originally Posted by DaveMcM76 View Post

Loving the OTA update thing...

took about 4 or 5 attempts for it to show the update as available, but both my iPhone 4 and iPad 2 both updated in around 10 minutes each...

it used to take around 45 minutes per device just to download the old full release updates on my crappy broadband...

Did 4 devices in parallel, all took less than five minutes in total including restarts! Got to hand it to FiOS!
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post #63 of 128
11/10/11 at 1:36pm
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

This behavior is not indicative of the iPhone 4S as a model. This is errant behavior of your personal device.

Are you on 5.0.1? Try a clean install.

I haven't installed today's update, but I have been to the Genius bar three times, they have replaced the handset, done software restores, and I have set it up as a "new phone" and manually re-entered the settings. I even got AT&T to give me a new SIM card, in case that was the source of the defect. I realize that most people don't have this problem, but there has been a fairly active thread on Apple's support site about this, so I'm also not the only one. I don't know what's left to try, although I do intend to install the latest update just in case.
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post #64 of 128
11/10/11 at 1:38pm
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Originally Posted by Retrogusto View Post

I haven't installed today's update, but I have been to the Genius bar three times, they have replaced the handset, done software restores, and I have set it up as a "new phone" and manually re-entered the settings. I even got AT&T to give me a new SIM card, in case that was the source of the defect. I realize that most people don't have this problem, but there has been a fairly active thread on Apple's support site about this, so I'm also not the only one. I don't know what's left to try, although I do intend to install the latest update just in case.

Who is your email provider? That seems to be the only constant here...
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post #65 of 128
11/10/11 at 1:39pm
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Originally Posted by ruckerz View Post

Where do I start with this one....

You do realize that Australian users also read articles on the site, don't you?

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post #66 of 128
11/10/11 at 1:40pm
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"A lot of our customers just want an iOS device as their ONLY DEVICE".

To which I say, "Yes!". However, broadband modems, routers, Mifi hotspots are all ADDITIONAL devices, by my reckoning.

So is a charger. Or to be more basic: a generator (to produce electricity). You cannot use any electronic device without some source of electricity (except watches with a built-in generator or solar cell). I understand your point, but one could argue that WiFi (at home, at work, at the coffeeshop, at the airport, at the hotel) is an infrastructure not that dissimilar to electricity itself. In the same way that a cellphone network is also an infrastructure.
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Not to mention additional data plans.

I am not sure what your logic is here. You expected updates to download via the cellphone network but not require any data of your data allowance?

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So anyway, I was trying the download on my iPhone to see whether it was going to be feasible for my sister-in-law's iPad out in the boonies.

Find a second 'smart' device that can act as mobile hotspot. I might add that my MSP is blanketing urban public spaces with WiFi, which is another workaround (and the same considerations might very well behind that strategy: reduce strain on the cellphone data network).
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post #67 of 128
11/10/11 at 1:40pm
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Originally Posted by Retrogusto View Post

I haven't installed today's update, but I have been to the Genius bar three times, they have replaced the handset, done software restores, and I have set it up as a "new phone" and manually re-entered the settings. I even got AT&T to give me a new SIM card, in case that was the source of the defect. I realize that most people don't have this problem, but there has been a fairly active thread on Apple's support site about this, so I'm also not the only one. I don't know what's left to try, although I do intend to install the latest update just in case.

1) When you get a new handset or do a DFU restore are you testing the device before you push all your backup settings to the device or are you syncing it with your backup and then trying to use it?

2) Off topic: SIM cards have been known to be the cause of a lot of connection issues. Why wouldn't they? They are the only part that is removable by the user yet it's required for the device to function. I look forward to the day that virtual SIMS are used so you don't have to go all MacGyver wit a paperclip to switch SIMS between countries, just pop into Settings to switch the country and carrier.
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post #68 of 128
11/10/11 at 1:42pm
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Originally Posted by Retrogusto View Post

I haven't installed today's update, but I have been to the Genius bar three times, they have replaced the handset, done software restores, and I have set it up as a "new phone" and manually re-entered the settings. I even got AT&T to give me a new SIM card, in case that was the source of the defect. I realize that most people don't have this problem, but there has been a fairly active thread on Apple's support site about this, so I'm also not the only one. I don't know what's left to try, although I do intend to install the latest update just in case.

Interesting. Are there common settings between the people in that thread?

I mean to say, are all the account affected of a certain type? Say POP or IMAP or they're all Exchange-based or something?
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post #69 of 128
11/10/11 at 1:42pm
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I look forward to the day that virtual SIMS are used so you don't have to go all MacGyver wit a paperclip to switch SIMS between countries, just pop into Settings to switch the country and carrier.

Never gonna happen, but wouldn't it be amazing...
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11/10/11 at 1:45pm
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Originally Posted by ombra2105 View Post

Never gonna happen, but wouldn't it be amazing...

I'm betting on this the way Ireland bets on future products: maybe not soon, but one day I'll be right. Just look at the size of the SIM and how much of it isn't used and how little data is stored on the part that is. Apple's A# chips are could get close in size with the next die shrink.
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post #71 of 128
11/10/11 at 1:46pm
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Originally Posted by JONOROM View Post

So Siri will finally be able to spell "G'day, Mate"?

Being an Australian I just tested this for you.
Ironically, it does.

Hell, it even works for my pet kangaroo.

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post #72 of 128
11/10/11 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by Naboozle View Post

It isn't about instant gratification. It's more about Apple's stated direction for PC-free. To paraphrase, "A lot of our customers just want an iOS device as their ONLY DEVICE".

I'm pretty sure that a wi-fi router doesn't come within the definition of a 'device' there. The context was obviously that some people don't want to have a computer to sync their iOS device.

Even if your only computing device is an iPad, surely it still makes sense to have a broadband connection and Wi-Fi?! 3G plans with a decent allowance are really expensive compared to standard broadband - not to mention slow. And it's not like most people have to buy a wi-fi router, because ISPs hand them out for nothing.
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post #73 of 128
11/10/11 at 2:08pm
Dear apple- for your next update, please add this feature:

From lock screen, when I swipe right, I open the text, email, voicemail, etc (already does this).

But when I swipe left, I can mark the text as read, delete email (great for not reading junk), and mark the call as "seen". The little red "1" still makes me have to open it just to get rid of it... Too much OCD.

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post #74 of 128
11/10/11 at 2:09pm
I just did the update on my brand new (well two weeks old) iPhone 4. Took 10 min or so and all seems well.
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11/10/11 at 2:10pm
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Originally Posted by noirdesir View Post

So is a charger. Or to be more basic: a generator (to produce electricity). You cannot use any electronic device without some source of electricity (except watches with a built-in generator or solar cell). I understand your point, but one could argue that WiFi (at home, at work, at the coffeeshop, at the airport, at the hotel) is an infrastructure not that dissimilar to electricity itself. In the same way that a cellphone network is also an infrastructure.


Except, she is already paying for infrastructure via her Verizon data plan. She is paying for 2GB per month. She could switch to a Verizon MiFi, and download the same data over the very same infrastructure. Why should she have purchase a separate device to do this?

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I am not sure what your logic is here. You expected updates to download via the cellphone network but not require any data of your data allowance?

No, my mention of that had to do with my interpretation that it implied 3GS availability for the incrementals based on what I thought I'd read. It doesn't matter to me whether the small download is charged or not in financial terms.

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Find a second 'smart' device that can act as mobile hotspot. I might add that my MSP is blanketing urban public spaces with WiFi, which is another workaround (and the same considerations might very well behind that strategy: reduce strain on the cellphone data network).

Yes, I know that would work but the second device would have to use the very same Verizon network she's already using and paying for now.
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post #76 of 128
11/10/11 at 2:15pm
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Originally Posted by Andysol View Post

Dear apple- for your next update, please add this feature:

From lock screen, when I swipe right, I open the text, email, voicemail, etc (already does this).

But when I swipe left, I can mark the text as read, delete email (great for not reading junk), and mark the call as "seen". The little red "1" still makes me have to open it just to get rid of it... Too much OCD.

I think that's a great idea.

I'd also like the option to use a circular pattern on the Lock Screen to adjust the brightness. Clockwise for brighter and counter-clockwise for dimmer. My reasoning is two fold: 1) When you walk into a dark room the screen is very bright but having to access the system, go to Settings and Brightness takes to long and can be disrupting to others, and 2) when you leave a dark room into bright light you can't see anything making it hard to access the system to adjust the brightness to useable levels.
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11/10/11 at 2:20pm
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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

Once Siri is out of "beta", I suspect it will migrate to all capable devices.

Apple: "Siri is exclusive to the iPhone 4S. Non-English language support is in beta."

Media: "Siri is a beta."

iPhone 4 owners: "Oh, Siri's in beta... That means we'll get it once the beta's over!"
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11/10/11 at 2:20pm
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I'm pretty sure that a wi-fi router doesn't come within the definition of a 'device' there. The context was obviously that some people don't want to have a computer to sync their iOS device.

Even if your only computing device is an iPad, surely it still makes sense to have a broadband connection and Wi-Fi?! 3G plans with a decent allowance are really expensive compared to standard broadband - not to mention slow. And it's not like most people have to buy a wi-fi router, because ISPs hand them out for nothing.

As I had stated earlier, she does not have access to other forms of broadband (except perhaps satellite).

And we obviously disagree on "device". Try thinking outside the box to what's driving PC-free. The desire to have the mobile device be a complete and self-contained solution. You may have become inured to the seeming ubiquity of WiFi and broadband availability. And the data modem. And the wireless router. And configuring the wireless router. Not everyone has this available.

We are not retarded; we understand the 2GB data plan that was selected. I would hope that she be able to use 2 percent of that monthly allowance to download an iOS update.
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11/10/11 at 2:29pm
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At least I am trying to use the Best Buy buyback program to get $167 in trade-in value, if they ever have stock of the 4S soon.

Wow, how lazy do you have to be to sell an iPhone 4 to Best Buy for $167 when you can get way more for them on eBay???
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11/10/11 at 2:32pm
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Originally Posted by Naboozle View Post

My reason is that I have just transferred a relative from some very old equipment to an iPad to solve both the obsolescence, as well as the fact that they are in a location where DSL and Cable broadband is unavailable. iPad satisfies her computing needs and now she's getting decent bandwidth (she has a Verizon tower relatively close by).

It isn't about instant gratification. It's more about Apple's stated direction for PC-free. To paraphrase, "A lot of our customers just want an iOS device as their ONLY DEVICE".

To which I say, "Yes!". However, broadband modems, routers, Mifi hotspots are all ADDITIONAL devices, by my reckoning. Not to mention additional data plans.

So anyway, I was trying the download on my iPhone to see whether it was going to be feasible for my sister-in-law's iPad out in the boonies.

Gotcha. That wasn't really directed towards you but more of a general observation. You have to know what I mean, right?

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