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Following this week's iOS 5.0.1 update for the iPhone, some users still continue to experience battery issues, and Apple has said it is investigating the matter.

In a statement to John Paczkowski of All Things D, Apple acknowledged there may be some issues that still need to be addressed after Thursday's release of iOS 5.0.1. That update was advertised to fix bugs affecting battery life, but some users have said the problems persist.

"The recent iOS software update addressed many of the battery issues that some customers experienced on their iOS 5 devices," the company reportedly said. "We continue to investigate a few remaining issues."

Apple worked quickly to release iOS 5.0.1 to the public and provide a fix for the battery woes that it said affected a small number of users. The company released two beta builds of the software last week to developers just two days apart, an unusually fast pace for pre-release software from Apple.

As Apple has worked to fix the bugs that have resulted in shorter battery life for some iPhone users, the company's employees have also been actively working with some customers to diagnose the battery-related bugs as it worked on a fix. Some users were asked to install temporary diagnostic software on their iPhone so Apple could track their usage.

The 5.0.1 update issued on Thursday included other additions and fixes in the incremental update, including multitasking gestures for the original iPad, the resolution of bugs with Documents in the Cloud, and improved voice recognition for Australian users with Siri. The software was also the first public over-the-air update issued by Apple to iPhone, iPad and iPod touch users.
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5.0.2 in two and a half weeks to satiate these people, anyone?

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post #3 of 63
Surely Apple is doing this on purpose to make you buy the 6th iPhone next year. (logic taken from the 3G running iOS 4.0 case)
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post #4 of 63
can they make my iP4S's battery to last for, say, a week? :P
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Actually my iPhone 4S battery was fine before the update. Now it drains faster. I have just fully charged my iPhone. It has been on my desk for 15 minutes after full charge. It shows 15 minutes usage and 15 minutes standby!
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my 4S battery drains about 2x as fast as my 4 when I use it. I just figured two times the number of horses drink twice as much water. A V8 uses twice as much gas as a 4 cylinder? you get the idea.
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post #7 of 63
I could not care less about the battery issue, as I am able to keep my phone plugged in enough during the day to keep it charged. What I REALLY want them to fix is the damn echoing and the noise around me being picked up my the mic and transmitted into my noise isolating headphones.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread...art=0&tstart=0
post #8 of 63
If this scenario was Android.

Hardware guys --> HTC, Moto, Samsung...

Hardware guys: It must be Android OS.
Google: <<cricket sounds>>
Hardware guys: just buy another battery.
Google: Sorry, you're not an advertiser so please see online support
Hardware guys: Even if it is Android, good luck seeing an update anytime soon. Any update given by Google will need to modified for our sake and then by the time it's ready, your phone won't be supported. Just buy a new phone.
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Upgraded my iPhone 4 to iOS5, no problems. I updated to iOS 5.0.1 on the same phone no problems. I've never seen problems. People just like to complain or they're just stupid.
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Upgraded my iPhone 4 to iOS5, no problems. I updated to iOS 5.0.1 on the same phone no problems. I never seen problems. People just like to complain or their just stupid.

Untrue. A personal dearth of problems does not a non-issue make. A vast (99%) majority with a dearth of problems does a non-issue make.

Many people are having problems with their battery life. Many are also experiencing an anti-placebo about it and are being paranoid. And plenty aren't having any problems.

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No, people are stupid.

What are you, an armadillo?
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No people are having problems...like me...an Apple Fan Boy (man)...5.2 get here quick, pls. Once the battery issue is fixed this is gonna be one hell of a computer that happens to make phone calls!\\
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No, people are stupid.

Some are. That has nothing to do with them having problems, however. Apple has a history of occasionally putting out an iOS update that causes problems with battery life. I'll reiterate; your lack of a problem does not mean they don't exist.

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What are you, an armadillo?

I'm curious as to the association you're making. What quality of an armadillo is he exhibiting?

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post #14 of 63
Explain to me how there's a problem for the people who are not having problems. We're all on the same hardware, same software build. Either it's use case or stupidity. Latter is true.
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No, people are stupid.

No, what applies to you does not mean it applies to everyone.
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We're all on the same hardware, same software build.

I, personally, don't think that you really believe we all own the same hardware and that the software is identical across all models of hardware.

That's fallacy at its very best. iOS 5.0.1 runs on ten hardware configurations across three families of devices and comes in ten flavors.

Within these hardware configurations are differently sourced parts. There are some screens from Samsung and some from LG. There are some NAND flash chips from one provider while others are provided by others. While the physical makeup of devices within a single hardware configuration may be the same, the parts may not.

Remember the Sony MacBook Pro (or was it PowerBook G4?) battery fiasco from years back? It obviously only affected Sony batteries, even though there were no marks of differentiation between those affected and otherwise-sourced batteries.

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post #17 of 63
I didn't have any battery issues, but I did have a really annoying Siri issue that was corrected in 5.0.1. If I was viewing my Verizon visual voicemail, played a message, and put the iPhone up to my head, Siri would try to chime in and listen instead of letting me listen to my voicemail!! Drove me crazy and forced me to play back all voicemails through speakerphone. Happily, iOS 5.0.1 has fixed this
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I had no battery issue but now I do with 5.0.1. It seems exceptionally bad when using a blue tooth device. Also, when i'm on the boarder of my wifi range things related to data don't work. You'd think the transistion at this stage in the game would be seamless!!!!!

upgraded at work and left 100% charged, 3 hrs later (made a few short phone calls, sent about 5 txt msgs, checked my email with a couple replies) 65%

I was on the phone with ATT then they transferred me to Apple. I was losing 1% every 2 min.


I'd jump ship but i'm heavilly invested in itunes content and apple devices.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

I, personally, don't think that you really believe we all own the same hardware and that the software is identical across all models of hardware.

That's fallacy at its very best. iOS 5.0.1 runs on ten hardware configurations across three families of devices and comes in ten flavors.

Within these hardware configurations are differently sourced parts. There are some screens from Samsung and some from LG. There are some NAND flash chips from one provider while others are provided by others. While the physical makeup of devices within a single hardware configuration may be the same, the parts may not.

Remember the Sony MacBook Pro (or was it PowerBook G4?) battery fiasco from years back? It obviously only affected Sony batteries, even though there were no marks of differentiation between those affected and otherwise-sourced batteries.

In addition to those variables, there are, of course, other variables:

- Phone settings. The phone allows you the option to change many settings that could affect battery life
- Usage (3G vs WiFi). Perhaps there is excessive battery drain only on 3G. Or only on WiFi. Either way, only those using one protocol would see the problem
- Signal strength. Perhaps it's only a problem when 3G signals are weak - which would only affect some people

It's not hard to believe that some percentage of people have a battery life problem. The hard part is figuring out the root cause and fixing it.
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Originally Posted by kkerst View Post

Explain to me how there's a problem for the people who are not having problems. We're all on the same hardware, same software build. Either it's use case or stupidity. Latter is true.

This logic is infallible.

People claim to have Cancer.
However, I don't have Cancer.
Therefore, Cancer doesn't exist.

They must be just being stupid.
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I'd jump ship but i'm heavilly invested in itunes content and apple devices.

Why would you 'jump ship' over a bug in an x.x.x update? That's the tech equivalent of buying a brand new car when, after a week of only short drives, your vehicle's average MPG calculation has gone down by two miles per gallon.

In other words, it's messy and premature to flip around so frivolously.

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All we know is that "some" users are having problems. Which ones? What hardare profile are they running? We have no idea, no one does except Apple based on the device serial number. I still bet more people are bitching because that's what they like to do (stupid). The real number of people are probably few. Even then, they probably don't know what they're doing (not stupid, but just dumb.)
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Originally Posted by GTR View Post

This logic is infallible.

People claim to have Cancer.
However, I don't have Cancer.
Therefore, Cancer doesn't exist.

They must be just being stupid.

hahahhahahahahahahahahha. love it.


And all in all this page has been an enjoyable read. Real knowledgeable intelligent folk on AI...

except for the one guy who tried to deflect to Android for some odd reason...though he was kinda right with his first 2 lines. lol
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This logic is infallible.

People claim to have Cancer.
However, I don't have Cancer.
Therefore, Cancer doesn't exist.

They must be just being stupid.

Cancer sucks. End of story.
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I had no battery issue but now I do with 5.0.1. It seems exceptionally bad when using a blue tooth device. Also, when i'm on the boarder of my wifi range things related to data don't work. You'd think the transistion at this stage in the game would be seamless!!!!!

upgraded at work and left 100% charged, 3 hrs later (made a few short phone calls, sent about 5 txt msgs, checked my email with a couple replies) 65%

I was on the phone with ATT then they transferred me to Apple. I was losing 1% every 2 min.


I'd jump ship but i'm heavilly invested in itunes content and apple devices.

My iPhone 4S is showing 1hr4m usage and 1hr21m standby since the last charge. It has been sitting on my desk untouched. I tried restarting 30 minutes ago but that didn't seem to solve any problems. I will probably do a restore later tonight and set it as a new iPhone since I am still having issue with Numbers not syncing my docs from iCloud. My iPad is working great without issues.

PS I think I will submit a bug to Apple from my developer account and see what happens.
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I am curious how much of it is a rogue app or two? Must be why they ask for console logs or a plist extracted from your backup files.
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Originally Posted by bmo View Post

I had no battery issue but now I do with 5.0.1. It seems exceptionally bad when using a blue tooth device. Also, when i'm on the boarder of my wifi range things related to data don't work. You'd think the transistion at this stage in the game would be seamless!!!!!

upgraded at work and left 100% charged, 3 hrs later (made a few short phone calls, sent about 5 txt msgs, checked my email with a couple replies) 65%

I was on the phone with ATT then they transferred me to Apple. I was losing 1% every 2 min.


I'd jump ship but i'm heavilly invested in itunes content and apple devices.

Instead of 65%, what did you expect it to be?
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For the record,
I had no battery issues on my iPhone 4S, whatsoever, before the update.

After the update, my battery performance has perceptibly improved !!!

Of course, and I know it is never required, I ALWAYS do a hard reboot of an iDevice, after a full firmware upgrade.

Hold the Power and Home button down, and keep holding down until the Apple icon comes on screen.
then
Let go.
HARD REBOOT
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For the record,
I had no battery issues on my iPhone 4S, whatsoever, before the update.

After the update, my battery performance has perceptibly improved !!!

Of course, and I know it is never required, I ALWAYS do a hard reboot of an iDevice, after a full firmware upgrade.

Hold the Power and Home button down, and keep holding down until the Apple icon comes on screen.
then
Let go.
HARD REBOOT

I had some draining issues beforehand. The update has slowed them down dramatically. Because it fixed mine, it has to fix yours. So because it didn't- you're a dumb dumb stupid head and I know everything.

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I had some draining issues beforehand. The update has slowed them down dramatically. Because it fixed mine, it has to fix yours. So because it didn't- you're a dumb dumb stupid head and I know everything.

Buahahahahahahaha....hilarious.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

I'm curious as to the association you're making. What quality of an armadillo is he exhibiting?

He makes a blanket claim that "people" are stupid. That means either he's stupid too, or he's not a person. Armadillo was just a guess as to an alternate explanation.
post #32 of 63
Make sure to turn it on:

Settings -- Location Services -- System Services -- Status Bar Icon - ON.

Now you will notice if some power hungry service has awaken
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Originally Posted by kkerst View Post

Upgraded my iPhone 4 to iOS5, no problems. I updated to iOS 5.0.1 on the same phone no problems. I've never seen problems. People just like to complain or they're just stupid.

I agree. I also have no problems, didn't have them before and don't have them after the upgrade. All those whining people, it's their own fault they have problems.
post #34 of 63
I have poor battry performance but it's app related since I had my i4 I've been using IM+ for instant messages and it just drains it it's the same with i4S it could drop to 20% in about 2 hours...
Other people it could depend on what they do, I've noticed several times before the update that when I used location based apps of iOS5 like map or camera, the location triangle comes up and stayed lit even after closing the app and killing it from multitasking... Now in 5.0.1 it's gone but stranger was that when I'm busy at work I set my phone to Airplane mode to save battery and not to be disturbed and the traingle came up ??? WTF? Altough about 2 hours passed i still had the 93% that I left it with.
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Originally Posted by bmo View Post

I had no battery issue but now I do with 5.0.1. It seems exceptionally bad when using a blue tooth device. Also, when i'm on the boarder of my wifi range things related to data don't work. You'd think the transistion at this stage in the game would be seamless!!!!!

upgraded at work and left 100% charged, 3 hrs later (made a few short phone calls, sent about 5 txt msgs, checked my email with a couple replies) 65%

I was on the phone with ATT then they transferred me to Apple. I was losing 1% every 2 min.


I'd jump ship but i'm heavilly invested in itunes content and apple devices.

Let's see 100% to 65% in 3 hours. That's about 1% in 5 minutes, not 2 minutes.
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post #36 of 63
My 4 was OK with iOS 5 now it spends the battery pretty fast. In fact just did a reboot in the hope of clearing the issue.

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Actually my iPhone 4S battery was fine before the update. Now it drains faster. I have just fully charged my iPhone. It has been on my desk for 15 minutes after full charge. It shows 15 minutes usage and 15 minutes standby!


Looks like they screwed the battery fix up. On the other hand my iPad has multitasking swipes again so I'm not looking back.
post #37 of 63
I personally haven't seen any battery drain issues with either my partners iPhone 4 or My iPhone 4S since iOS 5.0 and since 5.0.1 nothing has changed.

My iPhone was charged approx 10 hrs ago at 100% and now being just sitting it is showing 92% for me the battery is going slower since 5.0/5.0.1

One thing I did notice when first upgrading to iOS 5.0 I found Bluetooth was on which had previously been turned off. I know from previous phones before the iPhone bluetooth being on drains the battery at a rather quick rate.
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...hmmmm..... who can guess the day 5.2 comes out next week???
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Originally Posted by kkerst View Post

Upgraded my iPhone 4 to iOS5, no problems. I updated to iOS 5.0.1 on the same phone no problems. I've never seen problems. People just like to complain or they're just stupid.

I've witnessed my sister-in-law's 4s go from 100% battery to 84% in matter of hours when she barely used it.
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My 3GS worked fine with iOS 4. I upgraded to iOS 5 and it would drain in 24 hours or less. I learned to turn off all the battery eating notifications, data transfers, etc. And the battery lasted a week. I "restored" with iOS 5.01, and the battery drain problem is back. I had the same problem on my 4S from the get go. I learned to turn off everything that was not nessecary. It fixed the problem. Restored with iOS 5.01, and the battery drain issue is back.
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