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And how is my argument 3 invalid? Of course Apple doesn't want competition with their money-making App store. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with that business model. In fact it's brilliant. It's just not a product model that I am interested in at the moment. If iPhone eventually gains advantages in areas I care about over Android maybe I'll get one. But now it does not, and that in addition to the Apple philosophy for iOS keeps me away from iPhone. But again, do you see what I mean? Apple does not like that websites can get "app" like functionality with Flash and intentionally cut them out for this reason. At least, that I am guessing was a big reason in their doing so. I don't have inside info or anything, I'm just making an educated guess. Also, I think it is important to realize phone hardware has advanced a lot since Apple initially wrote Flash off, and Flash itself has advanced. Perhaps when Flash first came out on Android it really was crap. But I have only been using it for the past six months, and for me it works nicely. In fact it just got updated again today, to apparently allow users to grant Flash access to the phone camera to use as a webcam etc.

There are a lot of free apps in the App Store. Apple has to bear the burden of supporting those apps, but they don't make a dime for Apple. As it stands, the App Store is running at break-even for Apple. And the new iCloud services with free storage for all iOS customers is, in the long run, going to cost them. I don't think you realize that Apple is a consumer electronics company--I would have said "hardware company" except that, after reading Walter Isaacson's bio of Steve Jobs, I learned that Apple doesn't separate hardware from software from services. It's all one big product. The App Store's "long tail" is a feature for selling iPhones and iPads. It's isn't a major source of profit for Apple. The third-party ISVs make the profits; Apple only gains ancillary benefits from selling these third-party apps.

If you want further evidence of Apple's focus, consider what Steve Jobs told the boys who started DropBox: you're a feature, not a product. iCloud file syncing, like the App Store, is a feature of the product, but not the product itself.

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"Just to be very clear on this," he added. "No matter what we did, the Flash Player was not going to be available on Apples iOS anytime in the foreseeable future."

You mean, "Since we weren't going to fix the huge power draining, security and crash issues of Flash, it wouldn't be on iOS". Steve had said in the open letter that Flash was not performing to their expectations and there was not a full version of mobile Flash for so long. They can try and deflect this to Apple but people know better

He sure has the nerve to speak like that when they just had to give the plug-in a monster of an update, with a dozen serious exploits on the plug-in they were bragging about before.

Yet another reason why I have Skyfire, to see the videos in Flash if I must. Let the website decode them and stream H.264 to me.
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The ubiquitous use of "ubiquity" in this article

Must have reached new levels of ubiquitousness

It was "everywhere"

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So I would guess that by acknowledging the change that has happened in the landscape, saying "foreseeable future" and putting more resources toward HTML 5 Development, Adobe has begun their transition period.
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There is nothing like blaming someone else for your own lack of insight or mistake(s).
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I think blaming Apple is not taking resposiblity. The fact is that you need to update Flash Player way too much. It's not really a standard, and isn't made for mobile web. When I finally got the 2.2 update on my phone, it's been terrible. Not every website works with flash and half of the time I get redirected to mobile. They need a TRUE mobile Flash version rather than making the phones/apps use the regular version. Too much of a mess.
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Check with DED for a useful summery of the Apple vs Adobe 'dispute:
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2010/0...dobe-vs-apple/
Cheers

That article still cracks me up, a must read!

"And Adobe saw four horsemen of the apocalypse ascending from the sea, the the rider of the white horse was Steve Jobs and he was bent on conquest. And a second horse, red, was given to iPhone to take away market share from smartphones, and to cause phone makers to wage war and to fall upon their own swords. And a third horse, black, was carrying the scales of the iPod touch, and it measured out music playback from iTunes and sold many apps and starved other mobile platforms of mobile application demand. And fourth horse, pale, had a rider named iPad, which pundits called Death. And it caused famine for tablets and plague for slates and killed with a sword. And none of the horsemen used Flash."
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Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post

That article still cracks me up, a must read!

"And Adobe saw four horsemen of the apocalypse ascending from the sea, the the rider of the white horse was Steve Jobs and he was bent on conquest. And a second horse, red, was given to iPhone to take away market share from smartphones, and to cause phone makers to wage war and to fall upon their own swords. And a third horse, black, was carrying the scales of the iPod touch, and it measured out music playback from iTunes and sold many apps and starved other mobile platforms of mobile application demand. And fourth horse, pale, had a rider named iPad, which pundits called Death. And it caused famine for tablets and plague for slates and killed with a sword. And none of the horsemen used Flash."

...behold a horse pail!

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