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post #41 of 98
11/16/11 at 11:32am
The 4S specs page touts standby time of "up to 200 hours". So Apple's internal goal is to reduce standby time by 160 hours?
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post #42 of 98
11/16/11 at 11:34am
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"very expensive"

Do you mean "very extensive"?
or perhaps "very expansive"?

Or money hogish.
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post #43 of 98
11/16/11 at 11:37am
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Mine CLEARLY says 5.0.1. Not sure where you're getting that...

Except, you went back and edited it...

Your original is:
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I updated by mom's to 5.1 and now she's pissed. She's like, my batter life was perfect before! But mine wasn't. Get it together Apple!

as quoted by others and myself -- who did not edit their posts.

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I updated by mom's to 5.1 and now she's pissed. She's like, my batter life was perfect before! But mine wasn't. Get it together Apple!

You're giving trolling a bad name...
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post #44 of 98
11/16/11 at 11:37am
Told you guys the update would keep your % bar up a little longer.


"BUT MY PHONE SAID 40%AND IT TURNED OFF!"
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post #45 of 98
11/16/11 at 11:37am
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Corrected.

Hey, no fair, you're putting words in my comment. Have you had pizza in NY or Chicago? Where about in St. Louis?
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post #46 of 98
11/16/11 at 11:39am
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Except, you went back and edited it...

Your original is:


as quoted by others and myself -- who did not edit their posts.

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You're giving trolling a bad name...

Lol, for one I was only joking.

Apparenlty you don't know what trolling is. I meant 5.0.1 as I just realized that there would be a 5.1. Seriously, unless Apple's giving you $15 million in stock, take a chill pill.

I didn't know missing a few numbers and dots was trolling. Grow up.
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post #47 of 98
11/16/11 at 11:41am
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Hey, no fair, you're putting words in my comment. Have you had pizza in NY or Chicago? Where about in St. Louis?

Lolz. Chicago's decent. St. Louis style...IMO's. (To be honest though, I don't see why people like STL-style. I'm Seattle-naitive but since I'm here I gotta support 'em).

Chicago's so close to STL. I just might take an Amtrack up there this weekend.
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post #48 of 98
11/16/11 at 11:42am
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Apparently some people need a life....


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post #49 of 98
11/16/11 at 11:43am
"40 hours of standby with 10 hours of active use"
Wow....I gotta see, hear, feeeeeel thhis..!
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post #50 of 98
11/16/11 at 11:43am
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The 4S specs page touts standby time of "up to 200 hours". So Apple's internal goal is to reduce standby time by 160 hours?

"up to 200 hours" is a theoretical maximum and you can bet will only ever be acheived with damn near everything turned off and the phone essentially sat in a drawer somewhere, so it isn't really a typical usage scenario...

I would guess that the 40 hours they are aiming for is with things like wifi and siri etc all turned on, so giving 40 hours of standby under actual real world conditions...
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post #51 of 98
11/16/11 at 11:45am
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That's the third you did that. Again, not adding anything to the discussion really.
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post #52 of 98
11/16/11 at 11:51am
Ehm. If 5.0.2 is for both the 4 and 4S, and 5.1 is for the 4S only, does that mean 5.0.2 is the last major update we iPhone 4 owners get? I mean, I just bought the thing three weeks ago.
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post #53 of 98
11/16/11 at 11:51am
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That's the third you did that. Again, not adding anything to the discussion really.

No, it just makes his point and invalidates your knee-jerk reaction to his original response.

'Course I'm the one who 'started' this, so who am I to talk?

Hope he doesn't do me next.

*Cue Rodney Dangerfield-eseque pulling of the collar as I look at my average daily post count*

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Ehm. If 5.0.2 is for both the 4 and 4S, and 5.1 is for the 4S only, does that mean 5.0.2 is the last major update we iPhone 4 owners get? I mean, I just bought the thing three weeks ago.

What? Where do you get "5.1 is for the 4S only"? That's nonsense. iPhone 4 owners will get iOS 6 even; don't worry about it.
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post #54 of 98
11/16/11 at 12:06pm
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What? Where do you get "5.1 is for the 4S only"? That's nonsense. iPhone 4 owners will get iOS 6 even; don't worry about it.

Oh yes, I misread. I was a bit worried there. Thanks!
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post #55 of 98
11/16/11 at 12:14pm
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Why would work on Siri be any more expensive than any other feature of iOS?

Maybe expensive in terms of time to develop for which would make the reference to a release date make sense.
"Expensive" as in cost doesn't seem like it would impact a release date, would it?
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post #56 of 98
11/16/11 at 12:17pm
Some times siri needs a good slappin', but she told me she doesn't have a body to slap.
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post #57 of 98
11/16/11 at 12:32pm
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Some times siri needs a good slappin', but she told me she doesn't have a body to slap.

Ehm, that's wrong, you know. I'm glad I'm not your GF \.
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post #58 of 98
11/16/11 at 12:32pm
I agree I wish siri had more functionality, I asked it to look for apps in the app store, and didnt know what that is. it would be nice to at least be wired into all things apple. also it couldnt find disneyland? I use it mostly for driving or getting ready in the morning.
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post #59 of 98
11/16/11 at 12:42pm
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I agree I wish siri had more functionality, I asked it to look for apps in the app store, and didnt know what that is. it would be nice to at least be wired into all things apple. also it couldnt find disneyland? I use it mostly for driving or getting ready in the morning.

Siri is designed to plug in "providers" on the backend through their API so as it continues to grow it's going to be important for applications that want to provide the best Siri response to have their own custom API link in.

I suspect that we may see an open API for Siri next WWDC and then all He Double Hockey Sticks will break out because then Siri will suddenly go all Mensa on us with her knowledge about various things.

The Big Bang will be once Siri can be used to purchase products. I'm betting that the Apple Store will be the first place that you can complete a sale with merely your voice.
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post #60 of 98
11/16/11 at 12:52pm
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Make Siri able to interact with apps, like ESPN. I want to be able to ask Siri what the score of a game is, and if ESPN is loaded and running in the background she can tell me.

Yes please. I was frankly surprised when she/it couldn't answer questions like "Who won the Super Bowl?" or "What's the score of the Rangers game?" Seems like a no brainer for the next round of expanded functionality. I take it that Jobs wasn't a sports fan.
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post #61 of 98
11/16/11 at 12:53pm
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Hoping Apple add the option to disable 3G on the iPhone 4S so I can use the fucking thing on O2 who's 3G service pretends to be there but no cunt can fucking get through to you, the bastards.

/rant

That may not be possible. Note the inability to turn off '3G' came with MDM66x0 baseband chip, starting with the Verizon iPhone, not with iOS 5.0 as the 3GS and iPhone 4 still have the option under Settings => General => Network. IOW, this might be an issue with the capabilities with the baseband itself. I do hope that by the time '4G'/LTE is available we will get the option to leave it disabled.
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post #62 of 98
11/16/11 at 12:55pm
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Siri is designed to plug in "providers" on the backend through their API so as it continues to grow it's going to be important for applications that want to provide the best Siri response to have their own custom API link in.

I suspect that we may see an open API for Siri next WWDC and then all He Double Hockey Sticks will break out because then Siri will suddenly go all Mensa on us with her knowledge about various things.

The Big Bang will be once Siri can be used to purchase products. I'm betting that the Apple Store will be the first place that you can complete a sale with merely your voice.

Just wait until the bluetooth skullcap that can read your brain waves comes out, then you can just "think" and Siri will react...and make purchases for you!
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post #63 of 98
11/16/11 at 12:56pm
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I still believe for some people it's a matter of perhaps rogue app.

Yep, I agree, and some people are just stupid. Yes, it's me again, but I'm right. Too many people try to use their iPhones as a laptop. Guess what, the battery will never handle it.
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post #64 of 98
11/16/11 at 1:04pm
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Siri is designed to plug in "providers" on the backend through their API so as it continues to grow it's going to be important for applications that want to provide the best Siri response to have their own custom API link in.

I suspect that we may see an open API for Siri next WWDC and then all He Double Hockey Sticks will break out because then Siri will suddenly go all Mensa on us with her knowledge about various things.

The Big Bang will be once Siri can be used to purchase products. I'm betting that the Apple Store will be the first place that you can complete a sale with merely your voice.

I believe "you done broke the code!"

Here's what I'm hoping for -- something like:

1Q 2012
-- enhanced Siri integration with Apple's Mobile Apps
-- Lion Siri
-- more simple Siri actions performed on device alone
-- End of Siri beta
-- Release Siri 1.0 all A5 iDevices

-- Siri 2.0 Developer Beta
-- Siri Interface Guidelines
-- Siri Public APIs

WWDC 2Q 2012
-- Siri 2.0 Public Beta


You: "Siri find me the best price and availability of...."

Siri: "I found ..... for $.... available..... for...."

You: "Fine buy it, and let me know when it is delivered"

You: "Seri, schedule a staff meeting for all my first line managers at the earliest time -- so I can show them the new...."

Siri: "The managers' meeting has been scheduled at 7:00 AM Monday -- all have confirmed... 2 managers will be attending remotely"
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post #65 of 98
11/16/11 at 1:05pm
Some other issue...
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post #66 of 98
11/16/11 at 1:10pm
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Ehm, that's wrong, you know. I'm glad I'm not your GF \.

Siri's not real.

By your logic, PETA needs to arrest gamers around the world fo wearing the Tanooki suit...
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post #67 of 98
11/16/11 at 1:14pm
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I believe "you done broke the code!"

Here's what I'm hoping for -- something like:

1Q 2012
-- enhanced Siri integration with Apple's Mobile Apps
-- Lion Siri
-- more simple Siri actions performed on device alone
-- End of Siri beta
-- Release Siri 1.0 all A5 iDevices

-- Siri 2.0 Developer Beta
-- Siri Interface Guidelines
-- Siri Public APIs

WWDC 2Q 2012
-- Siri 2.0 Public Beta

I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave.

I'm more inclined to think Apple will partner with more companies for Siri's backed (e.g.: Yelp!, Wolfram-Alpha) than I am to think they will let App Store developers use APIs to access Siri. I see so many potential hazards with it that it might take some time to figure out like with backgrouning APIs.
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post #68 of 98
11/16/11 at 1:21pm
Siri will go down in history as the beginning of a disruptive computer interface change on par with the creation of the GUI. It's too bad that Majel Barrett-Roddenberry wasn't alive to provide Siri's voice.

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11/16/11 at 1:26pm
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Siri will go down in history as the beginning of a disruptive computer interface change on par with the creation of the GUI. It's too bad that Majel Barrett-Roddenberry wasn't still alive to provide Siri's voice.

Remember when the mouse was deemed a novelty, a gimmick, not for real computer users.
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post #70 of 98
11/16/11 at 1:26pm
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No, 'aufwendig' means 'costly'

Not in this context. "Extensive" is the correctly translation here given the context of the original post. If you want to imply financial aspects you use "kostspielig" instead of "aufwendig" in German.
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post #71 of 98
11/16/11 at 1:43pm
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Remember when the mouse was deemed a novelty, a gimmick, not for real computer users.

That still applies for the Magic Mouse.

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post #72 of 98
11/16/11 at 1:44pm
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I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave.

I'm more inclined to think Apple will partner with more companies for Siri's backed (e.g.: Yelp!, Wolfram-Alpha) than I am to think they will let App Store developers use APIs to access Siri. I see so many potential hazards with it that it might take some time to figure out like with backgrouning APIs.

Ahh... but you're missing it...

Any app that uses a keyboard can already use Siri dictation.

It should be a simple step for an app to expose to Siri, commands (cause and effects), that can be used within an app.

You can kinda' do that now:
-- open an app that displays an editable document (keyboard displayed)
-- tap the microphone key
-- dictate into Siri
-- press Siri Done key
-- press an app key to command the app to process the siri input

With availability of Siri APIs, the app could enable Siri to do all of the above.


I wrote a simple check list program that allows you to take a simple text file (like an email, a webpage recipe, etc.) and make (update) a checklist from it.

You: "Siri, Open MyChecklist App"

Siri: opens the app with a blank document...

You:
"Shopping List. eggs, butter, milk, raisins, small curd cottage cheese....."

Siri: displays the entered text

You: "Siri Make checklist"

Siri: creates a checklist saves it and displays it in checklist format (you can add to it later and/or have multiple checklists)

My app does this already with buttons...

All I have to do is expose to Siri:

1) The name of my app (iOS already know it)

2) expose to Siri the meaning of certain phrases, e.g. "Make Checklist" == press "Make Checklist" button.

My app knows what to do when it gets a command in context (whether from Siri or from a button)

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11/16/11 at 1:47pm
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Remember when the mouse was deemed a novelty, a gimmick, not for real computer users.

I was in that camp back in my days as a software engineer. I thought that the first Mac was more of a toy than a real computer ("where's the damn command line?!"). Steve Jobs: 1, Me: 0

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11/16/11 at 1:52pm
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Remember when the mouse was deemed a novelty, a gimmick, not for real computer users.

Yeah... I can still remember a mid-level Apple executive explaining how "click and point" was going to revolutionize how we used computers.
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11/16/11 at 2:10pm
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...as work on Siri is "very expensive."

Seriously? So Apple need to postpone a Siri update because it's too expensive for them? Who else find this ridiculous?
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11/16/11 at 2:54pm
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That may not be possible. Note the inability to turn off '3G' came with MDM66x0 baseband chip, starting with the Verizon iPhone, not with iOS 5.0 as the 3GS and iPhone 4 still have the option under Settings => General => Network. IOW, this might be an issue with the capabilities with the baseband itself. I do hope that by the time '4G'/LTE is available we will get the option to leave it disabled.

If that's the case it looks like I will have to ditch the 4S due to o2's unreliable 3G network. At present I have had to divert my calls to my Skype number so that calls come thru Skype on my iPhone on wifi.
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11/16/11 at 3:09pm
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The site claims that Apple will add new voice commands to Siri, allowing users to initiate activities like taking photos...

I can imagine a cool scenario for using this function.

Your family gathers for a group photo. You set-up your iPhone 4S on a little tripod and frame the shot. You walk over and take your place next to your aunt. When everyone's ready, you speak into your connected bluetooth earpiece: "Take a photo in 3 seconds" and take off the earpiece. Siri snaps your family photo.

You check the photo and see that it's too dark. "One more!" you tell everyone as you get back into position. "Another one, this time with flash" you say into the earpiece again.
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11/16/11 at 3:11pm
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11/16/11 at 3:14pm
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I can imagine a cool scenario for using this function.

Your family gathers for a group photo. You set-up your iPhone 4S on a little tripod and frame the shot. You walk over and take your place next to your aunt. When everyone's ready, you speak into your connected bluetooth earpiece: "Take a photo in 3 seconds" and take off the earpiece. Siri snaps your family photo.

You check the photo and see that it's too dark. "One more!" you tell everyone as you get back into position. "Another one, this time with flash" you say into the earpiece again.

You: "Siri, Take a picture"

Siri: "Say cheese..... click!"
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11/16/11 at 3:18pm
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Apparently some people need a life....

Isn't it disturbing?
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