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Google launched its cloud-based music service, Google Music, focusing on leveraging a large Android user base and social networking to distribute 13 million tracks from over 1000 record labels including EMI, Universal and Sony.

Google on Wednesday announced its rumored music service is live, extending the company's Music Beta program to everyone in the US and adding an online store that will tightly integrate with social networking hub Google+ and the Android marketplace.

Google Music is based on the beta program that allowed users to upload and stream up to 20,000 of their own songs from the company's servers or "digital lockers." The free music storage service, which was previously an invite-only affair, is now open to the US public and will support an Android app that is planned to roll out over the next few days.

"Today, our music beta becomes a full end-to-end service called Google Music," said Jamie Rosenberg, Director of Digital Content for Android.


Jamie Rosenberg announces Google Music


Google has tightly integrated its new music service with the company's Google+ social network, introducing a unique program that allows users to share music with friends. When music is purchased through Google Music, the song or songs will automatically appear on the purchaser's Google+ page where friends are granted a free one-time listen. Customers can also share songs via email if a friend doesn't have a Google+ account, though they will need to sign up in order to listen to the track.

"Google Music is about discovering, purchasing and sharing music in new, innovated and personalized ways," Rosenberg said. "Other cloud services think you have to pay to listen to music you already own. We don't."

Customers can make purchases from Google's online store or the Android app, and it was announced that T-Mobile will begin allowing customer's to be billed through their monthly service plans.


Screenshot of Android Market Music Store


Songs from partner labels like EMI, Universal, Sony and over 1000 indy labels are priced in line with competition, with 320 Kbps digital tracks costing either $0.99 or $1.29. The store currently has 8 million tracks to choose from, and will add 5 million in the coming weeks.

The format of the online store is similar to that of Apple's iTunes, and features artist bios, interviews, free tracks and more. All songs are stored in the cloud and can be either streamed to users via a Web-based player or a dedicated application. Downloads and offline listening are also available for songs stored in a user's digital locker.
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Who uses Google+ in any meaningful way? I work for an Internet company. No one I know is using it

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And I play them on...what?

Also, who the fuck uses Google+ in any meaningful way? I work for an Internet company and no one - no one - is using it

Play them on whatever you want. It has a great web UI.

I'm enjoying the music on my tablet and phone.

With or without G+ integration, it's a great service. With Google+, you can share the songs you purchased with other people so they can play them for free. And I've seen plenty of people use Google+.

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Yawn.

Google lacks focus. *Shocking*.
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Does it actually offer an iTunes Match feature? or is the "we don't think people should pay for their own music" just hot air, and Google expects people to upload all their music manually?
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Yawn.

Google lacks focus. *Shocking*.

Okay. You think they should just be a search engine?

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Does it actually offer an iTunes Match feature? or is the "we don't think people should pay for their own music" just hot air, and Google expects people to upload all their music manually?

It obviously does not have "iTunes Match" as it is not itunes. But it does allow you to upload all of your music to the cloud at no cost.

For most people it would be finished by the time they wake up in the morning. From how buggy itunes match has been, it'll probably take the same amount of time.

And what do you mean "we don't think people should pay for their own music"?

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Does it actually offer an iTunes Match feature? or is the "we don't think people should pay for their own music" just hot air, and Google expects people to upload all their music manually?

It was "We don't think people should have to pay for music they already own" If your going to quote, at least get the right quote.
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It was "We don't think people should have to pay for music they already own" If your going to quote, at least get the right quote.

True that. "Corrections" is so bad at getting the facts straight you would almost think he was Dilger or something.
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Does it actually offer an iTunes Match feature?

Is iTunes match still a beta feature? Honest question. Seems to have a lot of initial issues.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread...art=0&tstart=0
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All you gotta do is knock them off that search engine perch, and these little "beta" projects on the side will evaporate. Evaporate!

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Who uses Google+ in any meaningful way? I work for an Internet company. No one I know is using it

Not many people used Facebook at first either, you know.

And to answer your question: millions, and growing. This past week was Google's 3rd best ever yet (following the initial beta launch and public launch), which demonstrates it's getting traffic.

Cite: http://mashable.com/2011/11/16/google-plus-traffic-2/

It may not be Facebook or Twitter size yet, but it's certainly no Ping.
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All you gotta do is knock them off that search engine perch, and these little "beta" projects on the side will evaporate. Evaporate!

Google Music isn't a beta project tho.
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Not many people used Facebook at first either, you know.

And to answer your question: millions, and growing. This past week was Google's 3rd best ever yet (following the initial beta launch and public launch), which demonstrates it's getting traffic.

Cite: http://mashable.com/2011/11/16/google-plus-traffic-2/

It may not be Facebook or Twitter size yet, but it's certainly no Ping.

Ping still exists?

And yeah, people laughed at Facebook when it first came out.

Getting back on topic. This is a free service. Unlike itunes, you can listen to and download your songs, locally, anywhere, on any device. It has a great web interface, many free songs, and easy access for new artists that want to publish their music

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I like the sharing feature. And it's not just Google+. You can email too.

Too bad it's US only for now.

The biggest innovation here though is allowing independent artists to sell directly. Think of what that will do in the long run.

From the user perspective, there's a couple of features that iTunes does not have:

1) Sharing (by email and Google+)
2) Play from any web browser.
3) Free
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It will fail like any other service Google offered. Google TV just failed, Wave failed, ChromeOS failed, Buzz failed. Google+ also failed to attack Facebook. Maybe it's an option for Androiders, but not for the masses.

Whenever Google does something commercially prospective, they fail. Whenever it's free, they gain some partial success, like Chrome browser, Google+, search, Android.

Well, how come? If you just target the cheap audiences, who want to get everything for free, then you won't be able to sell ANYTHING.

Googles audience are either nerds who know how to get their free stuff (and by the way mostly are not any wealthy) or they are the penny savers who buy their Android mobile coz it's 100$ cheaper than an iPhone (then realizing that their phone lost 70% value within 6 months).

With 200 million Android activations, lots of them in India and somewhere, they still rank below iOS's 250 million, but in terms of wealth, they might be not even 1/10 of Apples audience wealth and probably 1/30 in willingness to pay for content. What does that mean in terms of ad business ? Google keeps attracting the lowest consumer segments, and even lower with such new services. That's devaluating their ad business! If I'd advertise on Google, who do I reach nowadays ? Do they buy anything at all or do they save so much money on their costfree Google services and cheap phones, that they have even more to spend than the average Apple consumer ?

If each Google music buyer will allow 100 friends to listen to a 1$ song Waiting for the day when Google buys me a car if I just print their logo on it. Why doesn't Google even pay all my expenses as long as I open up to them completely ? Future of the world ? Apple - people paying and staying free, Google - people don't pay for the price of being Googles slave.
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Why doesn't Google just call it "squirt"?

I can't imagine why Google would charge, when they've got a monopoly in search to leverage off of.

Who else but Google could have thought of such an innovative system.

http://gizmodo.com/5860265/google-mu...mplete-letdown
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Google Music isn't a beta project tho.

If you're anywhere outside the US, it feels like a Beta project. Just saying....
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The hatred.
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It will fail like any other service Google offered. Google TV just failed, Wave failed, ChromeOS failed, Buzz failed. Google+ also failed to attack Facebook. Maybe it's an option for Androiders, but not for the masses.

Whenever Google does something commercially prospective, they fail. Whenever it's free, they gain some partial success, like Chrome browser, Google+, search, Android.

Well, how come? If you just target the cheap audiences, who want to get everything for free, then you won't be able to sell ANYTHING.

Googles audience are either nerds who know how to get their free stuff (and by the way mostly are not any wealthy) or they are the penny savers who buy their Android mobile coz it's 100$ cheaper than an iPhone (then realizing that their phone lost 70% value within 6 months).

With 200 million Android activations, lots of them in India and somewhere, they still rank below iOS's 250 million, but in terms of wealth, they might be not even 1/10 of Apples audience wealth and probably 1/30 in willingness to pay for content. What does that mean in terms of ad business ? Google keeps attracting the lowest consumer segments, and even lower with such new services. That's devaluating their ad business! If I'd advertise on Google, who do I reach nowadays ? Do they buy anything at all or do they save so much money on their costfree Google services and cheap phones, that they have even more to spend than the average Apple consumer ?

If each Google music buyer will allow 100 friends to listen to a 1$ song Waiting for the day when Google buys me a car if I just print their logo on it. Why doesn't Google even pay all my expenses as long as I open up to them completely ? Future of the world ? Apple - people paying and staying free, Google - people don't pay for the price of being Googles slave.

Comedy.

Apple = free Google = slave.

Hilarious.
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The hatred.

try disdain
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If you're anywhere outside the US, it feels like a Beta project. Just saying....

I don't think they're offering the finished Google Music application outside the US yet, tho Universal Music indicated it's on the way during the release event this evening.
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Google +. I googled it and didn't find anything with exact results "google +". Why not call it Google tunes? I am thinking that iTunes is like eBay. Original and it just works. I really don't see any company like Google becoming a threat to the MP3 music guru's like Apple's iTunes.
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Let's keep on topic and not attempt to generalize here.
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Better quality and cheaper than itunes. Nice.
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Better quality and cheaper than itunes. Nice.

Is Google offering higher than 256Mbps music? I thought they were also at the .99 and $1.29 pricing.
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Okay. You think they should just be a search engine?

They need to focus on their core business.
This adds nothing to their core business.
It simple an attempt to copy Apple at every turn as they have been doing since ES took over.
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Is Google offering higher than 256Mbps music? I thought they were also at the .99 and $1.29 pricing.

320 and free cloud
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Is Google offering higher than 256Mbps music? I thought they were also at the .99 and $1.29 pricing.

Yes, every track is 320kbps
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Is iTunes match still a beta feature? Honest question. Seems to have a lot of initial issues.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread...art=0&tstart=0

It is a released product...

We have about 15,000 songs spread over 6 Macs... About 11,000 matched and the rest were uploaded. Uploading took about 8 hours total. Now, any changes are reflected in the iCloud servers -- after a few seconds.

Now, we have immediate access to all ofthese from our iPhones and iPads and AppleTV...

The first betas were a little buggy... But now it works well and pedictably!
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Let's keep on topic and not attempt to generalize here.

Understood.
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1) I dislike Google's silly use of Google+ making the '+' search parameter ineffective.

2) I'm glad Google finally was able to secure some deals with content owners after their previous attempt to circumvent the record companies.

3) I don't see why this is being paired with Google+ except to prop up Google+ more than be a good vessel for competing with iTunes Store.

4) I wonder if 320Kbps MP3 is really better than 256Kbps AAC.

5) Interesting that Google will transcode all your FLAC and OGG to 320Kbps MP3. At least doesn't make it the dumb locker they tried to push before.

6) In what way will this be more convenient than iTunes Store that will make me use Google's service?


PS: For those complaining about iTunes Match missing Apple's self-imposed launch deadline by two weeks, note that it works differently than a standard data locker. As more users sign up for iTunes Match the more music they will have on file and therefore the less time it will take for each user's music library to be accounted for.
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Understood.

Thanks for understanding AD. I know you have more to offer.

I'm gonna try out some tracks at 320k and see how much of a difference. Cool thing is
that if I subscribe to iTunes Match it's going to let me upload tracks even if they are
purchased via Amazon or Google.

You could build a library of 320k songs at home and iTunes Match 256k songs for mobile devices.

This could get pretty interesting.
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They need to focus on their core business.
This adds nothing to their core business.
It simple an attempt to copy Apple at every turn as they have been doing since ES took over.

Just as iTunes binds Apple owners closer to their ecosystem, Google Music will be a draw to both Android and Google+, helping keep Android owners in the fold. With the addition of Google Music, there's not a lot of Apple services without a closely matched Android equivalent. A complete bundle of services/ecosystem is advantageous to both platforms.
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Yes, every track is 320kbps

320kpbs but using MP3. Most people forget that AAC was developed by the same people in Germany who did MP3 and AAC was designed to replace MP3 because it was technically superior. It also had a DRM layer that MP3 lacked and thanks to Steve Jobs has now been abandoned. Apple was the first to widely use it making it a de facto standard.

So 320kpbs is about the same as 256kpbs AAC...only your hard drive will know for sure.
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Just as iTunes binds Apple owners closer to their ecosystem, Google Music will be a draw to both Android and Google+, helping keep Android owners in the fold. With the addition of Google Music, there's not a lot of Apple services without a closely matched Android equivalent. A complete bundle of services/ecosystem is advantageous to both platforms.

Bodes well for consumers as the drive will be to make Cloud services and desktop and mobile devices a cohesive platform. This should drive innovation. I wonder if we're going to see 4G LTE become more of a factor in devices even beyond Smartphones.
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try disdain

Nice.
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320kpbs but using MP3. Most people forget that AAC was developed by the same people in Germany who did MP3 and AAC was designed to replace MP3 because it was technically superior. It also had a DRM layer that MP3 lacked and thanks to Steve Jobs has now been abandoned. Apple was the first to widely use it making it a de facto standard.

So 320kpbs is about the same as 256kpbs AAC...only your hard drive will know for sure.

How do you qualify the "roughly equivalent"? File sizes? Audio quality for the average listener?

http://ipod.about.com/od/introductio..._qual_test.htm
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So 320kpbs is about the same as 256kpbs AAC...only your hard drive will know for sure.

One thing is for certain, the same file will take up more storage and more bandwidth than iTunes.
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Ive been using the google music thing for a few moments now and feel the need to share my off teh cuff comparison to what Apple offers:

Software/UI: Google wins
Apple makes me download a clunckey client that is slow as molasys on my wuper fast wuad core PC with 6gb ram, no slouch of a box. The web interface for teh google playwe works nicely in Firefox and Chrome and loads FAST.

Cloud and local storage: Google
All I need to access my music is a browser, not a big fat itunes client or a IOS device.

Format: Google wins
What can I say? AAC is pretty wide spread but MP3 is ubiquitous...pretty much everything plays MP3s and tehy can be used for anything, like making your own ring tones and such.

Quality: Google Wins
320k MP3 sounds almost indistinguishable to my discerning ear from a CD.

Social: Google wins
Ping? really?!? Need I say more?

price: Google wins
$0.99 for everything (as far as I have been able to see)...none of this bullshit of some rejected 20 year old crap that wasnt good enough for am radio at .79 and .99 and the good stuff all at a buck thirty!
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One thing is for certain, the same file will take up more storage and more bandwidth than iTunes.

mp3 takes up less space than aac

320>256
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