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industry insiders see as an indication that "strong enthusiasm for tablet PCs has already disappeared."

I'd say the consumer is unenthusiastic about the competitors that are producing inferior choices to the iPad... However, I do not think demand for the iPad tablet has wavered. In fact, the Daily has reported that the iPad is the number one Christmas gift request for Tweens this year. In addition, the IPad is growing by leaps and bounds in the classroom... Because of this, I think, the tablet and it's variants will become the dominant computer device. Furthermore, if Apple continues to lead to innovate and dominate this segment, than it will be the biggest player in the future market place. I hope that someone or company out there will produce a tablet that will truly compete with the iPad... If not, Apple will slow down development and innovation... I am sure that if there was a true competing tablet on the market last year, we would have had a much better iPad2... Unfortunately, there was not and Apple had the luxury of postponing some of the innovation it already developed for the iPad3... Just my opinion.

Also, Several friends tried the droid tables to only be let down by the quality of hardware, poor performing OS and shortage of quality tablet apps; therefore, either made the switch to the iPad or are waiting for iPad3.
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Traditional PC makers are going to ceed the future of computing? That's hard to believe. They'd soon find it difficult to exist when the day comes that iPads become just as powerful as laptops and desktops.
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You've gotta be careful with that kind of shit. Next thing you'll find yourself on the floor with an iPad (2) around your neck.

Thanks!

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post #44 of 134
Yesterday I discovered Printopia. Works fine with Aiprint unsupported printers too.
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That, and the retina display. Coming from a 1st gen iPad, I can't wait!

If Apple can get Retina Display for the next iPad then that's it. Apple will have locked in another natural monopoly, just like with the iPod. Sure, there will be the $200 loss-leader gnatablets sold by Amazon and B&N but Apple will be taking nearly all the profit from the tablet market and have all the sales from the proper tablet market.


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I heard a lot about buyers remorse over the iPad, the only remorse I had was buying a Wifi only. I won't make that mistake again...iPad 3 3g here I come ... when it comes out. With a 3g PAYG chip it really comes into it's own. With (hopefully) Siri on board it will be a must have machine!

My first IPad was WiFi-only. Then I bought the 3G model, but never activated it. Bak then I only used a few GB of storage. With my 3rd tablet, the iPad 2, I found that I used it a lot more for storing and watchng videos on the go so decided that I'd get a higher capacity model next time. Then TomTom made their GPS app Universal. Then I lost my WiFionly iPad 2. Next time I'll be buying the highest capacity iPad with AT&T 3G and maintaining a active account.
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post #46 of 134
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That's exactly why people want a PC over an iPad. I love my iPad, but it's not a replacement for a computer. It's an ultra-portable accessory.

"People" is an overly broad swath of the population I think. "Some people" maybe, but both my wife and daughter, who for the sake of the argument are closer to "average consumers", hardly touch their desktops anymore - doing most everything on their iPads, both "consuming" [sic] and creating content. In fact my wife will wander into her office/den of creation, and if she needs to throw together a quick doc she sits down at her desk, leaving her desktop slumbering in the background, connects her bluetooth keyboard to her iPad, knocks out the doc, and then walks away again. The desktop never even knew that it was co-opted and once paired, the keyboard gives her instant typing on the iPad.

My daughter tracks her homework and tests on her iPad, keeps all of her textbooks and reference material in iBooks, turns in her homework via email to her high school teachers, keeps her assignments lists in iBooks as PDFs. She writes papers on it - able to toggle back and forth to her texts and reference books complete with highlighted passages and notes - and builds her classroom presentations in Keynote which she then uses in the classroom to deliver.

Every day, apps and capability increase on these devices. If you have special needs (coding/programming, Windows only software, etc.) then yeah, your statement of course makes sense. But if you poll the vast majority of average consumers, their needs are squarely within the existing capacities of the iPad. Apple planned and delivered these devices that way. But their potential for broader and more specialized use is there as well. My friend is a pediatric surgeon, and he basically runs his practice off of his iPad. His systems were setup to optimize data handling and delivery for mobile device management. And this is a guy who 5 years ago was a very loud Apple critic.

I work with a large population of systems engineers in a Fortune 50 company, who daily show me how they are using iPhones, iPads and even iPod Touches to remote manage their storage and server systems on a global basis. And they are in turn driving development of amazing system management interfaces with our internal iOS dev team.

It is one hell of "an ultra-portable accessory" my friend!
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post #47 of 134
The big problem is simply a lack of innovation from most of these companies, that's why they fail on many of these products.

Computer company A Builds a computer, installs Windows and sells
Computer Company B Builds a computer, installs windows and sells
Etc
Etc
Computer Company E Builds an OS and a Computer and sells

Then

Computer Company A builds a tablet, installs Android and sells
Computer Company B builds a tablet, installs Android and sells
etc
etc
Computer Company E builds a tablet, builds an OS and Sells

For companies A-D there is no solid reason to chose one over the other...they are basically selling the same thing. Customer loyalty, price, and advertising all come into play but for Gods sake, try to differenciate yourself.

Say what you like about Microsoft but at least they have some products of their own (not just cloned software and hardware). They have Xbox, Office, Windows (not the best, but it's theirs)...and lots of failures ... zune? Not really something new...a bad copy of the iPod...it failed.

OSX is now very compatible with Windows, Apple made it that way to ensure that people could communicate, heck I'd even go as far to say that Office for Mac is the best version (even if it is the only programme I have that crashes). Companies like Dell, HP, etc need to decide if they're just manufacturers, that is a company that manufacturers and rebrands other products. If they want to be something else then that will take a major effort...and a major risk that I doubt they (shareholders) want them to take.
post #48 of 134
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If Apple can get Retina Display for the next iPad then that's it. Apple will have locked in another natural monopoly, just like with the iPod.

I agree and I suppose S. Jobs envisioned this from day one, and that's why he was so disappointed at the negative press after iPad's release. \

For corporations, they want to gravitate around a platform that has a long future. So far, only iPad seems to have it. But, once a corporation start coding apps for iPad, it will be difficult to start selling another pad to them. In order to minimize cost, they would rather stay with the first mover. I seriously doubt if Windows pads can make it.

On the other hand, I think Windows phone can still make it. They don't need corporate support to make it. But, with corporate support, iPad will crush all other pads, it feels.
post #49 of 134
99% of rumors are nonsense and so is this one.

HP, and Dell will likely shift from Android to Win8 tablets. I wouldn't call that conceding the market.

The better Android tablet builders like Asus,Samsung will be in Android and Win8 tablets.
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I think that the moral of the story is that a strong entertainment ecosystem is necessary to move this particular product category.

I'm not so sure this is true. 1) judging from the anecdotal evidence here and other blogs and forums I do not think users mainly use their iPad/tablets to consume entertainment, if you define it as movies, music and possibly books. And before you can make a statement like that, either you or I would need stats of some kind to back that up.

Nice try at a subtle dig at iPad for being a "consumption only" device, though. I shouldn't have to say that there are many more uses for it, which many of us have discovered.

2) It's still way too early to call the Kindle Fire a success. Up until Best Buy slashed prices a few months ago we all thought the HP Touchpad was a success. Give it a few quarters before you call Amazon's product a market mover.
post #51 of 134
The headline might as well read, "Major PC Makers plan to roll over and die."

I'm not saying that PCs are going away. But I do think the majority of people will be replacing them with a tablet at home.
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Now we'll put to test that theory about how competition is the only thing that pushes Apple forward. It seems to me that Apple barely pays any attention to what their competition is doing (aside from occasionally grabbing a good idea like notifications) and just pushes forward with their own vision. If the iPad stagnates over the next two years, I guess those theories will be proven right, but I'm betting it doesn't. I'm betting the iPad continues evolving at the same pace as before, no competition required.
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I'm not so sure this is true. 1) judging from the anecdotal evidence here and other blogs and forums I do not think users mainly use their iPad/tablets to consume entertainment, if you define it as movies, music and possibly books. And before you can make a statement like that, either you or I would need stats of some kind to back that up.

Nice try at a subtle dig at iPad for being a "consumption only" device, though. I shouldn't have to say that there are many more uses for it, which many of us have discovered.

2) It's still way too early to call the Kindle Fire a success. Up until Best Buy slashed prices a few months ago we all thought the HP Touchpad was a success. Give it a few quarters before you call Amazon's product a market mover.

There's some evidence that a high percentage of iPad owners may regret their purchase, finding they don't have as much use for it as they originally envisioned. That could be one reason that some of the computer makers may have decided it's a market not worth pursuing right now.

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/laptops/ipad...;siu-container

Also, while you might think that iPad owners find more use than owners of other tablets, not so according to this European study. To the contrary, those cheaper tablets/readers are used more often by their owners than those with the somewhat expensive iPads.

"Interestingly, non-iPad owners are recording an average of 30 minutes more usage a day than people with Apple iconic device. This trend was evident in all markets surveyed. "We found that younger people are more likely to own cheaper non-Apple devices, and that these users tend to be most engaged with social networks," said Garner.

http://site14.fourfiveone.com/2011/1...their-tablets/
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post #54 of 134
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Traditional PC makers are going to ceed the future of computing? That's hard to believe. They'd soon find it difficult to exist when the day comes that iPads become just as powerful as laptops and desktops.

I agree. Although it might take a long time, if ever, to match the power of a laptop/desktop, there will certainly come a day in the not too distant future that the iPad will be able to do the majority of the same tasks that are done with laptops/desktops today.

I see interest waning to some degree before a strong resurgence, though, but I don't see Apple dropping out of the tablet space... ever.
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Now we'll put to test that theory about how competition is the only thing that pushes Apple forward. It seems to me that Apple barely pays any attention to what their competition is doing (aside from occasionally grabbing a good idea like notifications) and just pushes forward with their own vision. If the iPad stagnates over the next two years, I guess those theories will be proven right, but I'm betting it doesn't. I'm betting the iPad continues evolving at the same pace as before, no competition required.

Agreed, not an argument I've believed, if Apple (Steve) was guilty of anything then it would arrogance rather than being pushed by competition. I believe they were more inspired by bad products than good ones. At the end of the day, everyone is copying to some some extent, but what differentiates companies is copying a good idea, improving it and making something new, as a posed to straight copying and regurgitating someone else's product.

Since moving back to Apple I've never felt so supported, so confident that my purchases will continue to improve and only get better. Even my apps are constantly being updated and bug fixed. Never seen this as a Windows / Nokia customer.
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Because of my " matinee idol" good looks I am able to attract beautiful women ...

Phew! For a while there I thought it was only me... Its tough, ain't it?
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My first IPad was WiFi-only. Then I bought the 3G model, but never activated it. Bak then I only used a few GB of storage. With my 3rd tablet, the iPad 2, I found that I used it a lot more for storing and watchng videos on the go so decided that I'd get a higher capacity model next time. Then TomTom made their GPS app Universal. Then I lost my WiFionly iPad 2. Next time I'll be buying the highest capacity iPad with AT&T 3G and maintaining a active account.

And here we have the definition of an 'ideal customer'
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Oh I don't know, maybe the PC market to start, maybe Xbox Live, enterprise, Office, just all the other software they produce that they make billions from.

PC's are going nowhere anytime soon, the market keeps growing.

Xbox live is blowing up and MS are constantly striking deals to provide more and more content to the consumer

Enterprise is MS's bread and butter, servers, mail servers ect.... all run MS

Office, number one selling business software suite

I could go on.

The PC market is nearing the moribund state, as the major segment of Microsoft's revenue stream starts eroding (enterprise computing) they have struggled with the successful incursion of Linux into the server space, even backing SCO's battles to challenge Linux's code base as containing elements of UNIX they claim they own. If they weren't worried about this they wouldn't be throwing so much money at undermining Linux. In the Office space, they are eyeing Google's Cloud Office for enterprise carefully to see where that is going to impact them. And Google is gunning for the mail side and messaging as well.

A lot of major enterprises are moving off of local hardware and moving to virtualized desktops, which changes the licensing of Office and Windows, and lessens it's profitability.

XBox has only recently in the last couple of years even produced profitable revenue for Microsoft, and again it's in a segment that is threatened by the increasing presence of gaming on mobile devices. YOU may prefer XBox as a platform, but the viability and profitabilty of the platform is marginal according to M/soft's own financials, and the market is divided.

Back to the PC market growing - the only source of real growth in the PC is in developing countries, whose markets don't support the robust costs associated with Windows and Office - most of them have a huge problem of pirated software and illegal licenses - no source of revenue for M/soft there, outside of recouping legal fees trying to sue pirates. All other segments of PC sales are plateauing or declining slowly.

And yes Microsoft has enough presence in the market to keep driving revenues for the near-term (next decade or so), but unless they can expand influence into new markets (a la Windows 8 "on everything" for example) their segments will erode out from under them. Not even putting Windows into Fords, etc. will keep revenues coming in strongly enough to offset the erosion of consumer PCs into mobile devices, Linux and Google into the server space and Google into the Office space.

The only credible profit sources for Microsoft are Office, Windows desktop, and Windows server. XBox scarcely registers on the scale below those. And those are where Microsoft's vulnerabilities lay.

Only a fool would allow Microsoft to continue "business-as-usual" in light of these facts, but Mr. Ballmer could well be that fool.
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post #59 of 134
I like my iPad but lately I've found it pretty restictive.
First at work I wanted to move a bunch (100s) of pdfs on to it. Were the heck is the fn usb port@#$%. Can you imagine how much groveling I had to do to get itunes installed at work?
Second at home I wanted to move some home movies into imovie. It took a day to figure out how to do that and it is still cumbersome.

To paraphrase Steve. Sometimes it just doesn't work. Messge to Apple: There's a lot of non-Apple stuff out there. Please make the iPad work with it.

As it is right now I'm not sure my next tablet will be an iPad. Problem is there is no viable alternative.

Apple user since 1981.
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Wow! It's only the fastest growing segment of the computer market!

I'll say one thing, after enjoying my ipad2 for the last few months, I'll most likely, never buy another desktop. But, I'll definitely buy the ipad3 when it comes out! That, along with my ip4, (soon to be a 4s, which is soon to be iP5) and I'm good to go.

If there is a traditional pc in my future, I would probably choose an 11" MBA. Really, who wants to sit in front of a pc all day, anyway?

P.S. (Off topic) I'm looking to get a print app for my iPad...any suggestions? Thx.

The best print app by far is print N share. It sniffs out your wifi network for any printer and you can use them. You can also print over 3G after installing the desktop software. It prints from all apps with the native print function in ios. And it saves all printers you've used just like a desktop so you don't have to keep rediscovering them.
post #61 of 134
The limits Apple puts on it's devices may play into a couple of surveys that strangely show that consumers overwhelmingly prefer Windows as their tablet OS. Whats that you say? What tablets use Windows? My guess is that buyers want computers/tablets with an OS and feature set they're already comfortable with. That's generally Windows.

I suspect the entire tablet space will undergo a change once MS-based tablets start hitting the market, no matter that Apple was the initial player.

http://allthingsd.com/20111005/never...-windows-ipad/
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Haha, really? So will Dell (and HP, Asus, Acer etc.) be shutting down and giving the money back to the shareholders?

If Steve Jobs's idea about the post-PC era is even partially true, then their laptop and desktop business is going to decrease in importance. Besides, Apple has been getting the lion's share of PC sales profits with just 5% of the market, meaning that Dells and HPs $500 laptops aren't very profitable. So, unless they shift focus to what comes to replace PCs, they should indeed close down.

But how realistic is that they cannot make profits from tablets? Tablets have less components and are far less complex machines than the PCs that have moving parts such as keyboards, optical disk drives, hard drives. They should be much easier and cheaper to manufacture. There will soon be at least two major OSs that will compete for tablets, Windows in addition to Android, which will bring the price of software down. So where's the problem?

According to the article, content providers such as Amazon and B&N are drinking the manufacturer's milkshake. Really? How much does Apple make from content as compared to hardware sales? Peanuts. About 1% of all revenue, without considering the maintenance of content. So, if Apple were to adopt Amazon's model -- sell hardware at a loss, and try to make it up with content and services -- they'd go broke.

Obviously Amazon is taking a loss with the Kindle in exchange for a large market share and hope for a decent, but not great return. They should be happy if everyone purchasing a $200 Kindle spend another $200 on content. They may, as some have predicted, end up losing big time.

Why wouldn't hardware manufacturers be able to turn a profit then? I believe they were just greedy with the $600 Galaxy Tab and Xoom, going after Apple's profit margins. I believe that HP could have done well if they offered the Touchpad at a slightly higher price than what it goes for now on Amazon (~$260). Instead of having a healthy level of sales at $350-$400, they had to do a fire sale at $99, how stupid was that?

Whatever, rant over, I may be entirely wrong, but I call this whole article BS.
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First at work I wanted to move a bunch (100s) of pdfs on to it.

Maybe the iCloud one day can fulfill this need? Just curious. For you, for now, it seems that you need an MBA.
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P.S. (Off topic) I'm looking to get a print app for my iPad...any suggestions? Thx.

Why doesn't Apple support iOS printing through their AirPort Base Stations?
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Now we'll put to test that theory about how competition is the only thing that pushes Apple forward. It seems to me that Apple barely pays any attention to what their competition is doing (aside from occasionally grabbing a good idea like notifications) and just pushes forward with their own vision. If the iPad stagnates over the next two years, I guess those theories will be proven right, but I'm betting it doesn't. I'm betting the iPad continues evolving at the same pace as before, no competition required.

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"Computers in the future may weigh no more than 1.5 tons."
-- Popular Mechanics, forecasting the relentless march of science, 1949

"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."
-- Thomas Watson, chairman of IBM, 1943

"I have traveled the length and breadth of this country and talked with the best people, and I can assure you that data processing is a fad that won't last out the year."
-- The editor in charge of business books for Prentice Hall, 1957

"But what ... is it good for?"
-- Engineer at the Advanced Computing Systems Division of IBM, 1968,commenting on the microchip.

"There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home."
-- Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977

"This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings to be seriously considered as a means of communication. The device is inherently of no value to us."
-- Western Union internal memo, 1876.

"The wireless music box has no imaginable commercial value. Who would pay for a message sent to nobody in particular?"
-- David Sarnoff's associates in response to his urgings for investment in the radio in the 1920s.

"The concept is interesting and well-formed, but in order to earn better than a 'C,' the idea must be feasible."
-- A Yale University management professor in response to Fred Smith's paper proposing reliable overnight delivery service. (Smith went on to found Federal Express Corp.)

"I'm just glad it'll be Clark Gable who's falling on his face not Gary Cooper."
-- Gary Cooper on his decision not to take the leading role in "Gone With The Wind."

"A cookie store is a bad idea. Besides, the market research reports say America likes crispy cookies, not soft and chewy cookies like you make."
-- Response to Debbi Fields' idea of starting Mrs. Fields'Cookies.

"We don't like their sound, and guitar music is on the way out."
-- Decca Recording Co. rejecting the Beatles, 1962.

"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible."
-- Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895.

"If I had thought about it, I wouldn't have done the experiment. The literature was full of examples that said you can't do this."
-- Spencer Silver on the work that led to the unique adhesives for 3-M "Post-It" Notepads.

"So we went to Atari and said, 'Hey, we've got this amazing thing, even built with some of your parts, and what do you think about funding us? Or we'll give it to you. We just want to do it. Pay our salary, we'll come work for you.' And they said, 'No.' So then we went to Hewlett-Packard, and they said, 'Hey, we don't need you. You haven't got through college yet.'"
-- Apple Computer Inc. founder Steve Jobs on attempts to get Atari and HP interested in his and Steve Wozniak's personal computer.

"Professor Goddard does not know the relation between action and reaction and the need to have something better than a vacuum against which to react. He seems to lack the basic knowledge ladled out daily in high schools."
-- 1921 New York Times editorial about Robert Goddard's revolutionary rocket work.

"You want to have consistent and uniform muscle development across all of your muscles? It can't be done. It's just a fact of life. You just have to accept inconsistent muscle development as an unalterable condition of weight training."
-- Response to Arthur Jones, who solved the "unsolvable" problem by inventing Nautilus.

"Drill for oil? You mean drill into the ground to try and find oil? You're crazy."
-- Drillers who Edwin L. Drake tried to enlist to his project to drill for oil in 1859.

"Stocks have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau."
-- Irving Fisher, Professor of Economics, Yale University, 1929.

"Airplanes are interesting toys but of no military value."
-- Marechal Ferdinand Foch, Professor of Strategy, Ecole Superieure de Guerre.

"Everything that can be invented has been invented."
-- Charles H. Duell, Commissioner, U.S. Office of Patents, 1899.

"Louis Pasteur's theory of germs is ridiculous fiction".
-- Pierre Pachet, Professor of Physiology at Toulouse, 1872

"The abdomen, the chest, and the brain will forever be shut from the intrusion of the wise and humane surgeon".
-- Sir John Eric Ericksen, British surgeon, appointed Surgeon-Extraordinary to Queen Victoria 1873.

"640K ought to be enough for anybody."
-- Bill Gates, 1981

"$100 million dollars is way too much to pay for Microsoft."
-- IBM, 1982

"Who the h_ll wants to hear actors talk?"
-- H.M. Warner, Warner Brothers, 1927.

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If you read the article it also says:

"The sources pointed out that although iPad 2 is also seeing strong demand from consumers, sales were lower than those of iPad, indicating that consumers' strong enthusiasm for tablet PCs has already disappeared."

So I'm inclined to believe they have no idea what they're talking about.
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Let's get this right....
"Strong enthusiasm for tablets other than Apple's Ipad have already disappeared"

I for one, am very enthusiastic about the next ipad 3. Which will more than likely incorporate siri. That is the main reason i am waiting to buy an ipad!!

"More than likely...Siri." Huh? Now you're making up your own unsubstantiated rumors and believing in them. AppleInsider has trained you well. They've even convinced you it will be called "iPad 3". Their work is done.

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"More than likely...Siri." Huh? Now you're making up your own unsubstantiated rumors and believing in them. AppleInsider has trained you well. They've even convinced you it will be called "iPad 3". Their work is done.

More than likely Siri? Dam if the iPad 3 doesn't come with a 1080 retina display that beams the pictures in 3d directly to my brain while simultaneously massaging my feet and making me 3 course meal, i'm not buying it, I'm just not.
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How will Google expand it's malware riddled Android OS without the help of Dell, Acer and HP? I guess they will have to stick to phones to spread the joy.

You forgot: they bought Motorola's awesome mobile business. They don't need those PC makers. Oh wait, that was just "patent defense." They're not gonna compete with anyone.

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Wow! It's only the fastest growing segment of the computer market!

I'll say one thing, after enjoying my ipad2 for the last few months, I'll most likely, never buy another desktop. But, I'll definitely buy the ipad3 when it comes out! That, along with my ip4, (soon to be a 4s, which is soon to be iP5) and I'm good to go.

If there is a traditional pc in my future, I would probably choose an 11" MBA. Really, who wants to sit in front of a pc all day, anyway?

P.S. (Off topic) I'm looking to get a print app for my iPad...any suggestions? Thx.

We just tried a demo of Printopia, a $20 app that let's your iPhones iPads print to any printer on your network. It works well, even with my 1st gen iPad. You click on the 'out' arrow in any page or app ( the one that lets you email, bookmark or save etc.). Then the drop down box lists our four printers, our localhost network, Dropbox account, and Send To Mac.
The software needs to be installed on your computer then it can see anything on your network. It automagically appears on all your iPhones iPads in the out arrow dialog box in whatever app you are in. Really happy with it. None of our printers are wifi compatible and some are really old but it works!
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Wow, I am so impressed with your correcting your girlfriend there.

Don't you just hate it when the socks in the drawer get out of alignment or the toilet paper is put in back to front. Some people!

Why is everyone taking this rather ludicrous story at face value as if there was no doubt that everything it claims is true or will come to pass? - Apart fromm DavidCV!

When I arrived at the college to deliver the fifty iPads for Kappa Delta Smeg, I noticed that the girls seemed to be having pillow fights. Undaunted, but still apprehensive, I entered the house, sensing danger.

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Someone, I forget who, has this as their signature:

Windows 7 a 64 bit add on for a 32 bit extension and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprossessor, written by a 2 bit company that can't stand 1 bit of competition.


Which is a bunch of nonsense of course. Except the competition part. But they sure got their ass handed to them in those European anti-trust lawsuits in the end.
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Really, who wants to sit in front of a pc all day, anyway?

Sadly for the millions of us who sit working at a desk all day it's not an option. I wouldn't swap my iMac for an iPad.
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Originally Posted by jj.yuan View Post

Maybe the iCloud one day can fulfill this need? Just curious. For you, for now, it seems that you need an MBA.

Nope, legal documents so they will never be in iCloud. An MBA would work but why not an iPad? As a business user it would be nice if the iPad would be easier to integrate with the MS stuff.
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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

"More than likely...Siri." Huh? Now you're making up your own unsubstantiated rumors and believing in them. AppleInsider has trained you well. They've even convinced you it will be called "iPad 3". Their work is done.

I sense some tension....

wooooo saaaaaaaaaa
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Well said. Anecdotal I know, but before my ipad2, my GF would go to our iMac in the den for facebook, emailing, photo mgt, surfing, etc., instead of using her work laptop (dell-ugh!). Now she goes straight for the iPad2 sitting on the coffee table...I get asked a lot, " r u almost done with the iPad?" of course, I correct her and tell her it's an "iPad2!".

"R U almost done with your iPad " is code for " Please get me my own iPad2 for Christmas ".
Believe me. I got my wife her own iPad even though she was technophobic - anything with more than an ON/OFF button was verboten . She loves it and is now using it every day where before our Internet provider closed her email account due to lack of activity.
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Originally Posted by tjwal View Post

I like my iPad but lately I've found it pretty restictive.
First at work I wanted to move a bunch (100s) of pdfs on to it. Were the heck is the fn usb port@#$%. Can you imagine how much groveling I had to do to get itunes installed at work?
Second at home I wanted to move some home movies into imovie. It took a day to figure out how to do that and it is still cumbersome.

To paraphrase Steve. Sometimes it just doesn't work. Messge to Apple: There's a lot of non-Apple stuff out there. Please make the iPad work with it.

As it is right now I'm not sure my next tablet will be an iPad. Problem is there is no viable alternative.

Apple user since 1981.

Its not ideal but you can use good reader, apparently, to move pdfs via wifi Check out this thread

As far as video goes why not the Apple iPad camera kit?
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Phew! For a while there I thought it was only me... Its tough, ain't it?

Now that's funny! Thanks for making me laugh! it's nice to talk to someone who has the same problem!

And, yes I'm beginning to think it's just easier to just do everything she says for me to do...

Best
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Originally Posted by Dadoria2 View Post

The best print app by far is print N share. It sniffs out your wifi network for any printer and you can use them. You can also print over 3G after installing the desktop software. It prints from all apps with the native print function in ios. And it saves all printers you've used just like a desktop so you don't have to keep rediscovering them.

Thx dadoria, sounds exactly what I'm looking for...I'll check it out. I like my brother MFC-795cn

Best.
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Originally Posted by christopher126 View Post

Wow! It's only the fastest growing segment of the computer market!

I'll say one thing, after enjoying my ipad2 for the last few months, I'll most likely, never buy another desktop. But, I'll definitely buy the ipad3 when it comes out! That, along with my ip4, (soon to be a 4s, which is soon to be iP5) and I'm good to go.

If there is a traditional pc in my future, I would probably choose an 11" MBA. Really, who wants to sit in front of a pc all day, anyway?

P.S. (Off topic) I'm looking to get a print app for my iPad...any suggestions? Thx.

Don't even brother with the print apps, I've wasted my money on these half baked apps. Just get an Airprint printer like the HP Envy 110 and be done with it.
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