Galaxy Nexus web benchmarks outpace iPhone 4S as 'Woz' picks up early copy - Page 3

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Here are some videos showing games on the Galaxy Nexus. Performance seems fine - there is no stuttering or lag.

9mm HD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ijUWEg1VFM

Asphalt 6 Adrenaline HD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpvrcSFaKZk

Need for Speed Shift HD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvFKScKrKIA

Samurai II Vengeance HD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfL9Pf5-s8I

Shadowgun HD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YRYMh3ShzA

Sounds like someone is getting paid nicely!!!

i love Woz's enthusiasm for tech/geek things. i think apple should let him play with new devices and let him just talk about it. might glean some good ideas, maybe not, couldn't hurt.

it is a bit of a slap in the face to apple to show up and do a photo op. i imagine google new exactly what they were doing when they said 'hey woz, come get a free one first!'

i don't think the galaxy nexus is 'all that'. it is just that so many android phones are terrible that this one seems 'good'. i think it will be a 'dated' phone as soon as its available in USA. 16gig storage is all? lame. 5mp camera? lame. so so display. lame. buggy android 4. lame.
i think HTC has a phone being prepped that will outshine this one easily.
[actually, the battery on the HTC is lame too] i really don't like any of the phones right now. apple needs a new design and bigger screen (that's just my hold back from getting iphone). i see no reason to ditch my nexus one for another dodgy android phone so until the iphone 5 comes out i will probably just stay in holding pattern on phone purchase.

Did you notice the v in front of the 6. Now ask yourself... what version of the iPhone is the 4S? It must be version 4. Hmmmm... can't be because the last version before the 4S was the 4.

Still stumped?

You still lack comprehension.

Who's waiting for the next Apple products to see greatness. My post says it all about the current offerings. Nothing offered by the Android camp can knock the 4S off its perch. Nothing from Android can knock the iPad 2 off its perch. So, as I said, what happens when a totally redesigned, slightly larger screen, faster iPhone hits the street. Poor Android... all dressed up and nowhere to go.

I was actually surprised. From years of reading AI I expected something more like "Galaxy Nexus overly fast to make up for Androids crappiness". Well, not that far, but you get my drift, they tend to make everything seem like it can't hold a candle to the Apple competitor.

More like this please, AI. Unbiased reporting, let us think for ourselves.


On topic: Well, this is exactly what I expected. The 1.2GHz dual core OMAP leads the A5 in anything CPU dependant, but the SGX540, even at twice the speed of the old one in the Nexus S, can't hold a candle to the 4S's 543MP2 dual core graphics chip. I can't wait for Android phones with both faster processors and the latter GPU, or better GPU's. I also want to know how the GPU in the quad core Tegra 3 compares, as well as the next generation Snapdragons with their new Adreno GPU's.

Me too...Google = Big Brother

There is no perch.

Lots of different phones are made by lots of different companies to serve lots of different markets.

The i4S appeals to a lot of different people for a lot of different reasons. But the overwhelming majority of people who buy smart phones choose not to get one.

They will not be as Good as Apple's chips. We know that already.

No perch?!



Then why are you always trying so damn hard to prove the other phones are better.

Actually it should, b/c then my App Store is the Google or various other competing ones. The apps I want are only produced for iOS, so Android isn't a consideration for me. Ice Cream Sandwich could come on phones w/an orifice that gave you head and I'd still pass. I do have a wife after all

Woz is a test subject in a new Californian study to determine if cell phones cause cancer



Yes and all our quarterly results are currently prior to the release of the 4S and the 3GS extending Apple's market all the way down to free. We'll see how 4Q2011 and 1Q2012 go. The 4S, 4 and 3GS are the 3 most popular phone models currently.


Another factor that is changing rapidly. Look at the sales figures, the Mac is increasing it's market share very steadily and it has only been increasing.

Do "we"? Source?

Made the Jump from iPhone 3g to Droid X
At this time I'm just using the phone (When it works) until the contract runs out.

The phone has been buggy with every update. For me I can honestly say the phone is crap.
Would rather use a Motorola Startac than this POS Android Phone

http://www.google.com/nexus/#/features

I see by the specs that they bailed on the USB storage card feature. Curiously there seems to be no mention of GPS although I am assuming that was an oversight. Does anyone know if the multitasking is still using the task killer model. How does it compare to Apples suspended app feature?

"Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich multitasking
Multi-tasking has also been given a boost and with ICS it's easier to see which apps you've been using recently. If you decide you're done with using one, you can easily flick it away to close.

Google says it has made multitasking "even easier and more visual" on Android 4.0. The Recent Apps button lets users jump instantly from one task to another using the list in the System Bar. The list pops up to show thumbnail images of apps used recently tapping a thumbnail switches to the app."
http://www.techradar.com/news/mobile...to-know-954464

The device doesn't have a microSD card slot, if that's what you mean. Also, it's not possible to mount the internal flash storage as USB mass storage device (since that has the root filesystem for the OS). However, you can copy files to/from the device via USB Media Transfer Protocol or Picture Transfer Protocol.


I'm not sure what you mean by "task killer model." Could you elaborate? Android will kill a process in a low-memory situation, but aside from that task killers aren't necessary or recommended.

If you pointed out a Bald Eagle sitting on a perch he'd reply there is no perch because Seagulls and Pigeons outnumber Eagles.

Ahhhh the Startac, best pure cell phone ever made.

Funny but fatally flawed since birds do actually sit on perches.

And there is more to GPUs than games. BUT coming from an OS that only recently got SCROLLING right, you probably don' t have the faintest idea.

re: "Woz picks up an early copy (of the nexus)"

Just to be picky, this is a horrible construction and quite impossible on the face of it.

There is no such a thing as an "early copy" of a phone, nexus or otherwise. Nor is there really such a thing as a "copy" of a phone in the first place, unless we are talking about an illegal copy of the nexus design. A phone is not a newspaper or a magazine.

"Woz picks/picked up his Nexus early," is closer to the correct phrasing of what you wanted to say.

Your just trolling as usual.

There is a big big difference between a phone that has built in bad battery life and a phone that is produced in vast quantities but has a tiny percentage of users with a battery problem.

How has the slower GPU test results on your iPhone4 (or 3GS) impacted your enjoyment of your smartphone? The difference between the 4S and 4G must surely be so stark that last years phone must feel completely unusable.

"v6" will never be "iPhone5"

It is the sixth iteration, it will come with iOS 6.
Why on earth would they call it "iPhone 5"?

Even just from a marketing perspective, why would they want to associate it with the past? Why would they want to associate it with the failed predictions and hopes of all the pundits *this* year? It would just make it seem like they *were* "supposed" to come out with iPhone 5 this year but failed so here it is a year late? That's awful messaging.

There's no real evidence at all that anything other than the iPhone 4s was planned for this year. All that other crap about the iPhone 5 was just media speculation and hype.

"iPhone 5" will never exist. Just like there never was an "iPhone 2."

I don't understand the level of reverence the tech community seems to have for Topolosky, Engadget, and now "The Verge."

Topolosky himself is very frequently dead wrong about major issues. Worse, he has at least twice in recent memory completely fallen for gag posts and misdirection from hoaxers and Apple Inc. He has come out and stated categorical things about future iPhones in particular that turned out to be not only completely wrong but embarrassingly so. Yet his reputation somehow remains intact.

Engadget is only second in the juvenile hijinks category behind Gizmodo. They regularly ban people from the comments they don't like or that disagree with them and are really quite unprofessional in general.

The Verge, seems to be more professional overall, but like "This is My Next" before it, is possible one of the most boring sites on the Internet. I can't think of a messier, more confusingly laid out POS tech site than the Verge. It looks more like a magazine than a website but functions poorly all the same.

This is in fact the clue to why Topolosky et al. are so awful at what they do. They don't really want to be tech bloggers at all, they want to be magazine producers and TV "personalities." All those guys at the Verge are too wrapped up in dreams of their own fame and fortune and too full of themselves to actually do the job they set out to do.

Both of you are either relatively new to Woz-watching or wearing tinfoil hats. He IS that "nice guy" everybody talks about, but he's been pulling stunts that would be likely to either embarrass Apple or piss them off for decades to the point Cupertino's inured to his doings.

But he's never done these things for malicious reasons, just geek and having fun ones. He doesn't have to camp out in front of Apple Stores to get his iPhones either - he simply enjoys being a public personality. Hello, "Dancing with the Stars"?? Being followed around by cameras to be part of reality show when dating his comedienne? Going everywhere on his Segway.... ...Never saw Jobs doing anything resembling any of those....

Remember also that his career began as a prankster - his first real invention - as a "phone phreak" was a "blue box" to make (illegal) free long-distance calls. And that he started CA's first "dial a joke" line - on which he told all of the jokes.

His "job" at Apple is purely an honorarium for his original contributions and most of his directorships and such are likely more for his fame (or original association with the company) than tech or business expertise.

While he had good to arguably great chops in the garage days of computing, he hasn't kept up with the tech except at the tinkering level, and he's never, ever been a businessman. No killer instinct - he left all that part to Steve. Sure he's founded a lot of companies and sits on boards - but not a blockbuster enterprise in the bunch.

He's more interested in living and having a good time. He's already a bigger part of history than he ever imagined and is very well off to boot. And who's to begrudge him that??


I think you're writing with tongue in cheek here, but in any case, he was in more danger hanging out with Kathy Griffin.


As long as he was the engineer and you were the biz half.


Hehh. You said "banana."

Wow, how'd I go this long without tearing this apart?

Here we go, I'll just steal from myself for this. Hopefully we can put it to rest once and for all.

First iPhone. Called iPhone. No suffix. Makes perfect sense.

Second iPhone. Gets a redesign. They could have called it the iPhone 2, but since it also added 3G telephony, that was the highlight and it became the iPhone 3G.

Third iPhone. Same case design. Same telephony generation as previous, but faster. At this stage, iPhone 3 wouldn't have made sense, as cognitively it sounds like they're going backwards. Alphabetically and hierarchically, "3G" sounds newer/higher on the scale than "3". Hence 3GS, highlighting speed.

Fourth iPhone. Case redesign. Same telephony generation as previous. Because no telephony was changed but the case was, Apple went with a generation name to distinguish it. Hence iPhone 4.

Fifth iPhone. Same case design. Same telephony generation as previous, but faster. Does this sound familiar? Hence 4S. Highlighting speed.

IF. *pause for effect* IF. the next iPhone gets a case redesign, we'll have another scenario like the 1st gen to the 2nd gen. We haven't had one of those since. So what's logical, according to Apple's own past naming conventions? Naming the device after the generation of telephony it will get is logical (And while the iPhone receiving LTE is as equally 'IF' as a case redesign, I'm going to assume it will happen for the sake of the argument. First, there's a new generation of LTE chips coming out with power draws at the level Apple likes. Second, I'm sure you're an LTE proponent, too. But I digress.).

So what does that mean? Will we see an iPhone 4G next? No. Apple themselves have said that they are letting the carriers decide what is and is not 4G. That's why the iPhone 4S isn't marketed as having 4G by Apple, even though AT&T thinks their abject laziness allows them to call 4G whatever they want it called.

So how about a tighter-fitting name? iPhone LTE, perhaps? I've thrown that off the table, but you can pick it up if you want. There's only a very, VERY slight chance that Apple would use it, as they didn't call the iPhone 3G the "iPhone HSPA" and they didn't call the iPhone 3GS the "iPhone HSPA+". Apple doesn't name devices after a specific subset of cellular telephony, just the broader generation thereof.

So what does that leave? If Apple doesn't call it the 4G or the LTE, the only thing left, based on Apple's OWN HISTORY of naming devices, is to name it after the generation of device.

I work at AT&T and this is the story of my life, people calling in all day who have moved to an android phone loves it for the first few months then calls in saying its buggy, crashes, slow, message app crashes in the background and tries to get us to replace it with a iPhone.

The total experience being that Google totally owns your a$$ once you touch Android.

This is the kind of shit that makes you sound like a troll. Ending your comment with "'nuff said" like it was some sort of "Yo, Mama!' joke on the streets, and this crap about Apple doesn't care about specs.

Apple clearly focuses more on the specifications of their products more than any other their competitors. It's how they were able to figure out how to mill a quality notebook at a reasonable price from a solid piece of aluminium. It's how they were able to continually make the iPhone's screen thinner, brighter and more true to the image being shown. How they were about specify what aspects of their A-chip to optimum performance. It's how they are able to get industry leading battery life from their products without the need for an extended battery. It's all about specs. What it's not about, it focusing on a couple specs that look good on a spec sheet while ignoring the rest of the product because they aren't directly marketable to customers.

That's the Apple difference.

They should just call it iPhone, tbh. Although I imagine they'll do away with the numbering should they choose to diversify the iPhone product line like they did with the iPod.

So you are or aren't complaining about the performance of your older 4G? If not, then what's the point of some posts intimating that somehow the less than amazing 3D GPU performance of the Nexus will result in a poor user experience? Much ado about nothing IMO. From your posts I guess only some specs are important, the ones that favor Apple.

To be clear, I've never stated Apple doesn't care about specs. That comes from Apple users here in the forums as you clearly know.

So, rather than respond to what Topolsky actually said, you're just hurling invective and making personal attacks.

For the sake of argument, let's say you're right and ignore Topolsky's review. What about the other (mostly) positive reviews from Wired, Mashable, Engadget, Techradar, T3, Stuff, Which, and MobileSyrup? Are all of their authors pretentious poseurs or secretly on the take from Google?

From reading these posts, I'm starting to think that it's not enough for Apple to build a successful product, but that every other vendor's products have to be denigrated as absolutely worthless garbage. Why is it so hard for folks to admit that maybe, just maybe, Google and Samsung have built a product that people might actually want to buy?

Which sites would you recommend over The Verge for gadget news and reviews? I think it's a fine site but if there's better stuff out there I'd like to know.

This post is full of all kinds of hallf baked silliness.

For one, Apple's market share is rock solid. Android is not chipping away at Apple, but is taking share from WebOS, BB, and Windows mobile.

Also, android sales numbers are rooted in garbage phones that can barely run Angry Birds, so who cares how many more phones Android sells. Developers are not investing in android, iOS is still the priority and where the resources are going. iOS makes far more money for content creators.

As for your ramblings about the Apple eco system, it's far too silly to respond to, and shows you don't understand the iPhone and how it fits into the big picture.

edit: Gatorguy can have his poorly engineered HW and OS that' trying to keep up with 2 generation old iPhones.

I wonder that myself sometimes.

Yes it is.,,,

edit: nm