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Between Apple's iPad and the newly launched Amazon Kindle Fire, tablet sales in North America are set to reach record heights, rising 130 percent during the holidays of 2011.

Calling it "the most explosive development in the tablet market since the release of the original iPad," the Kindle Fire was found by ChangeWave Research to have strong initial demand among consumers in North America. The results of a new survey of 3,043 consumers, released on Monday, indicate that the Kindle Fire is poised to become the No. 2 selling tablet behind Apple's iPad.

Among those planning to buy a tablet device in the future, 65 percent said they would choose Apple's iPad, while 22 percent will opt for an Amazon Kindle Fire. That compares with just 4 percent of planned tablet buyers who will choose the Samsung Galaxy Tab.

Beyond Samsung, no other tablet manufacturer has more than 1 percent of future tablet demand among consumers in North America.

The latest survey from ChangeWave represents the first time since the launch of the first-generation iPad that there is a double-digit contender for the No. 2 tablet spot, with the Kindle Fire set to leapfrog the competition.

The firm's analysis of the numbers suggest initial Kindle Fire demand is "a shot across the bow at Apple," but also acknowledge that the more immediate impact of the new touchscreen tablet from Amazon is on the rest of the competition, including Samsung, Motorola, Research in Motion, and Dell.

"The Amazon surge may also contain a silver lining for Apple, by damaging the tablet market hopes of the remaining competitors in the field," ChangeWave wrote.



Among the total number of customers polled, 2 percent indicated they have already ordered the Kindle Fire, while another 5 percent said they are "very likely" to purchase the device, and 12 percent indicated they are "somewhat likely." The launch of the Kindle Fire helped to push overall tablet demand to 14 percent indicating they plan to buy in the next 90 days, 8 points higher than a similar survey in August, and more than triple the level of a year ago.

But while the Kindle Fire is helping to grow the tablet market in North America, the survey also indicates that demand for Apple's iPad continues to grow, suggesting sales will not be immediately impacted by Amazon's $199 device.



"Apple continues to show enormous strength in the tablet market, where it's enjoying the best quarter in its history, according to the survey," ChangeWave revealed.

In fact, ChangeWave found that the customer satisfaction rating for the iPad is well beyond competing tablets. A total of 74 percent of all iPad owners said they're "very satisfied" with their device, compared to just 49 percent of all other tablet manufacturers combined.



A survey earlier this month from ChangeWave found that 26 percent of those buying a Kindle Fire at launch were delaying a purchase of Apple's iPad. For more on the Kindle Fire, see AppleInsider's in-depth review.
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Between Apple's iPad and the newly launched Amazon Kindle Fire, tablet sales in North America are set to reach record heights, rising 130 percent during the holidays of 2011.

Calling it "the most explosive development in the tablet market since the release of the original iPad," the Kindle Fire was found by ChangeWave Research to have strong initial demand among consumers in North America. The results of a new survey of 3,043 consumers, released on Monday, indicate that the Kindle Fire is poised to become the No. 2 selling tablet behind Apple's iPad.

Among those planning to buy a tablet device in the future, 65 percent said they would choose Apple's iPad, while 22 percent will opt for an Amazon Kindle Fire. That compares with just 4 percent of planned tablet buyers who will choose the Samsung Galaxy Tab.

Beyond Samsung, no other tablet manufacturer has more than 1 percent of future tablet demand among consumers in North America.

The latest survey from ChangeWave represents the first time since the launch of the first-generation iPad that there is a double-digit contender for the No. 2 tablet spot, with the Kindle Fire set to leapfrog the competition.

The firm's analysis of the numbers suggest initial Kindle Fire demand is "a shot across the bow at Apple," but also acknowledge that the more immediate impact of the new touchscreen tablet from Amazon is on the rest of the competition, including Samsung, Motorola, Research in Motion, and Dell.

"The Amazon surge may also contain a silver lining for Apple, by damaging the tablet market hopes of the remaining competitors in the field," ChangeWave wrote.



Among the total number of customers polled, 2 percent indicated they have already ordered the Kindle Fire, while another 5 percent said they are "very likely" to purchase the device, and 12 percent indicated they are "somewhat likely." The launch of the Kindle Fire helped to push overall tablet demand to 14 percent indicating they plan to buy in the next 90 days, 8 points higher than a similar survey in August, and more than triple the level of a year ago.

But while the Kindle Fire is helping to grow the tablet market in North America, the survey also indicates that demand for Apple's iPad continues to grow, suggesting sales will not be immediately impacted by Amazon's $199 device.



"Apple continues to show enormous strength in the tablet market, where it's enjoying the best quarter in its history, according to the survey," ChangeWave revealed.

In fact, ChangeWave found that the customer satisfaction rating for the iPad is well beyond competing tablets. A total of 74 percent of all iPad owners said they're "very satisfied" with their device, compared to just 49 percent of all other tablet manufacturers combined.



A survey earlier this month from ChangeWave found that 26 percent of those buying a Kindle Fire at launch were delaying a purchase of Apple's iPad. For more on the Kindle Fire, see AppleInsider's in-depth review.

Its an E-reader/media pad. It can't hold a candle to the iPad. You are really comparing Apple's to Grapes. I may get one just to read on the bus to work. Seven inches is the sweet spot and it does not bring to much attention.
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Looking at electronics catalogues this Christmas, it can now be said that we're officially in the Post PC Era. Mainstream consumers will no longer be purchasing PC's as their new computers.
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Looking at electronics catalogues this Christmas, it can now be said that we're officially in the Post PC Era. Mainstream consumers will no longer be purchasing PC's as their new computers.

Well said, ipedro. I love my iPad 2. Although I wish I had got the 3G model. Looking to upgrade my iPhone 4 to the 4s in the next couple of weeks and will most likely upgrade to an ipad3 3G and ip5 when they come out next year.

I still have a sense of wonder about the iPhone. I no longer have to carry a stand alone camera, or video camera, or GPS unit ( tomtom app), no longer have to carry paper maps in the car, or cd's or separate iPod. My ekey is now a USB fob instead of a stand alone device that used to updated over a land line, or worse via USB thru a windows box (ugh!). The nike gps app is all built in (no need for sensors) which is brilliant, albeit the iPhone is a bit big and heavy for running..

It is just amazing to me, still!

My next pc purchase will probably be an MBA 11" but I'm waiting for them to add 3G to them before I buy one. Anecdotal, I know, but i would say 90% of my friends would do well just having an iPad instead of the dusty ugly windows box at home!

I'm really enjoying magazines (scuba & skiing) on Newstand btw.

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Apple needs just a little bit of competition in the tablet market just to avoid the DoJ... Amazon just stepped up to the plate.
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Looking at electronics catalogues this Christmas, it can now be said that we're officially in the Post PC Era. Mainstream consumers will no longer be purchasing PC's as their new computers.

Interesting thought. I haven't looked in a holiday catalog in years. I guess if you see tablets and other handheld computing devices over 'PCs' then we really are in the Post-PC era.


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You quoted the whole article?

You'd think after 100 posts they'd know better, unless they were trying to be an ass.


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Well said, ipedro. I love my iPad 2. Although I wish I had got the 3G model.

I recently lost my iPad 2. I left it somewhere. Now I'm wishing I would have paid for the 3G and AT&T's month fee. Made Find My iPad a pointless feature for a locked WiFI iPad that doesn't auto find networks. Debating whether to get one on Friday or just wait for iPad 3.

PS: If you can't switch your iPhone 4S around from carrier to carrier in the US despite being "world mode" how will they use that MDM6610 chip in the iPad 3? Will it just be one physical model for all iPad 3Gs, but you have to choose your carrier at time of purchase? I hope that isn't the case.

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My next pc purchase will probably be an MBA 11" but I'm waiting for them to add 3G to them before I buy one. Anecdotal, I know, but i would say 90% of my friends would do well just having an iPad instead of the windows box at home!

I'm waiting for the revamped MBPs and also hope they add cellular when they knock out the ODD.
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Holidays 2011 ! An eternity, in this market ..

Let s better talk about XMas sales ...
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Holidays 2011 ! An eternity, in this market ..

Let s better talk about XMas sales ...

Better get ready to buy some AAPL shares to put under that tree. I'm hoping for $350 or a little under.
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Interesting thought. I haven't looked in a holiday catalog in years. I guess if you see tablets and other handheld computing devices over 'PCs' then we really are in the Post-PC era.



You'd think after 100 posts they'd know better, unless they were trying to be an ass.



I recently lost my iPad 2. I left it somewhere. Now I'm wishing I would have paid for the 3G and AT&T's month fee. Made Find My iPad a pointless feature for a locked WiFI iPad that doesn't auto find networks. Debating whether to get one on Friday or just wait for iPad 3.

PS: If you can't switch your iPhone 4S around from carrier to carrier in the US despite being "world mode" how will they use that MDM6610 chip in the iPad 3? Will it just be one physical model for all iPad 3Gs, but you have to choose your carrier at time of purchase? I hope that isn't the case.


I'm waiting for the revamped MBPs and also hope they add cellular when they knock out the ODD.

Sorry to hear about ur lost ipad2, Solip! I know that hurts...as far as getting a new one, I would do it, just so u have it and enjoying it while waiting for the iPad 3....I know we've discussed it ad nauseum on these boards, on whether or not to get the latest iteration or waiting for the new model, but one thing I see rarely mentioned is, one can upgrade to a new iPhone and sell the old one. In my case the 4s is $200, and I can sell my iP4 for $250. In the case of my wifi ipad2 it's not quite as good...I could buy a new 3G and sell my wifi only iPad 2 for $300. But I look at this way, I've enjoyed the wifi ipad2 for the last 9 months, so it's really cost me $20/mo.

Anyway, again sorry to hear about the lost iPad....best
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See how well a product can do if you sell it at a $50 loss per unit! I'm not convinced this is the best idea yet.
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Looking at electronics catalogues this Christmas, it can now be said that we're officially in the Post PC Era. Mainstream consumers will no longer be purchasing PC's as their new computers.

I totally agree. And the worse for Apple competitors is that is also true in professional market, where laptops have largely replaced desktop computers ... Before they are all , for the most part, replaced by iPad, despite the fact some people still view it as a toy ...
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Sorry to hear about ur lost ipad2, Solip! I know that hurts...as far as getting a new one, I would do it, just so u have it and enjoying it while waiting for the iPad 3....I know we've discussed it ad nauseum on these boards, on whether or not to get the latest iteration or waiting for the new model, but one thing I see rarely mentioned is, one can upgrade to a new iPhone and sell the old one. In my case the 4s is $200, and I can sell my iP4 for $250. In the case of my wifi ipad2 it's not quite as good...I could buy a new 3G and sell my wifi only iPad 2 for $300. But I look at this way, I've enjoyed the wifi ipad2 for the last 9 months, so it's really cost me $20/mo.

Anyway, again sorry to hear about the lost iPad....best

My fault, so no need to feel sorry. I noticed they have a 1st gen with 32GB and 3G for $400 on their refurbished site. I might go ahead and do that.
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Well said, ipedro. I love my iPad 2. Although I wish I had got the 3G model. Looking to upgrade my iPhone 4 to the 4s in the next couple of weeks and will most likely upgrade to an ipad3 3G and ip5 when they come out next year.

I still have a sense of wonder about the iPhone. I no longer have to carry a stand alone camera, or video camera, or GPS unit ( tomtom app), no longer have to carry paper maps in the car, or cd's or separate iPod. My ekey is now a USB fob instead of a stand alone device that used to updated over a land line, or worse via USB thru a windows box (ugh!). The nike gps app is all built in (no need for sensors) which is brilliant, albeit the iPhone is a bit big and heavy for running..

It is just amazing to me, still!

My next pc purchase will probably be an MBA 11" but I'm waiting for them to add 3G to them before I buy one. Anecdotal, I know, but i would say 90% of my friends would do well just having an iPad instead of the dusty ugly windows box at home!

I'm really enjoying magazines (scuba & skiing) on Newstand btw.

Best

I 100% agree. Just wait until you get that 4s and talking to Siri you'll add that to the list of things that blow your mind!
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My fault, so no need to feel sorry. I noticed they have a 1st gen with 32GB and 3G for $400 on their refurbished site. I might go ahead and do that.

Even better! Good idea.
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See how well a product can do if you sell it at a $50 loss per unit! I'm not convinced this is the best idea yet.

Bingo! Amazon is counting on customers paying for content to bring in the profits. It has been well documented that Android users are mostly freetards who don't buy many apps or content. I'm predicting Amazon will lose its shirt over this. The Fire buyers will use it to find as much free content as possible. They'll have a cheap, halfway decent tablet and will load it up as much free stuff as they can without buying music, videos, or magazines from Amazon. The buyer will be happy but Amazon will lose money in the deal.
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I 100% agree. Just wait until you get that 4s and talking to Siri you'll add that to the list of things that blow your mind!

Yeah, I know, Digi! can't wait!

...my GF's sister just got a 4s (finally gave up on BB). She loves it....and Siri is the feature she is most impressed with!

The last straw, was she went to Paris and could not get email on her BB. I had to go over to her house and read her email to her over the phone! Sheez!

She's up for an iPad for Xmas!

P.S. I put the little apple sticker on the back window of her Suv, her Bf, is a devoted BB and windows user...he and I really have nothing in common! Other than the "sisters" of course. Sisters r good! I like sisters!

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Bingo! Amazon is counting on customers paying for content to bring in the profits. It has been well documented that Android users are mostly freetards who don't buy many apps or content. I'm predicting Amazon will lose its shirt over this. The Fire buyers will use it to find as much free content as possible. They'll have a cheap, halfway decent tablet and will load it up as much free stuff as they can without buying music, videos, or magazines from Amazon. The buyer will be happy but Amazon will lose money in the deal.

One of the reasons that Android users appear to buy fewer apps is that many of the most popular paid ones in Apple's AppStore and free from the Android Market.

By the way, the silly over-used name-calling doesn't add anything to your post.
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Apple needs just a little bit of competition in the tablet market just to avoid the DoJ... Amazon just stepped up to the plate.

I don't see why the DOJ would investigate Apple for their tablet marketshare. They aren't using any illegal practices to maintain their marketshare like MS did w/how they forced OEMs to pay them for any system they sold, even if it didn't have Windows on it. From everything I've seen the Fire is no competition for the iPad. I have yet to hear anyone say they were going to buy an iPad and decided not to b/c of the Fire.

A v S> Some of the reviews of the Fire say that reading in portrait mode makes things rather squished b/c of the widescreen format. Something to consider.
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I don't see why the DOJ would investigate Apple for their tablet marketshare. They aren't using any illegal practices to maintain their marketshare like MS did w/how they forced OEMs to pay them for any system they sold, even if it didn't have Windows on it. From everything I've seen the Fire is no competition for the iPad. I have yet to hear anyone say they were going to buy an iPad and decided not to b/c of the Fire.

A v S> Some of the reviews of the Fire say that reading in portrait mode makes things rather squished b/c of the widescreen format. Something to consider.

Good points, squirrel !

Just a quick aside: If u want to see someone disappointed this Xmas, get them a tablet that is something other than an ipad2!
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Good points, squirrel !

Just a quick aside: If u want to see someone disappointed this Xmas, get them a tablet that is something other than an ipad2!

An important point that should be mentioned. The Fire has only been out on Amazon for a few days, yet already 25% of upcoming tablet purchasers stated they want one over the iPad, around for a couple of years now and widely/often advertised. IMHO that's quite an accomplishment for Amazon and is an indication of the market visibility they have.
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So is the Kindle a Tablet or not a Tablet?
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So is the Kindle a Tablet or not a Tablet?

According to AI, it's a tablet. IMO it's a reader.
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An important point that should be mentioned. The Fire has only been out on Amazon for a few days, yet already 25% of upcoming tablet purchasers stated they want one over the iPad, around for a couple of years now and widely/often advertised. IMHO that's quite an accomplishment for Amazon and is an indication of the market visibility they have.

I don't disagree, Gator...I guess I just like Apple! similar to the fact that I prefer the beatles over ELO, or cold ice cream over warm ice cream, or a regular size prostate over an enlarged prostate....to each his own!

Just teasing....

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I don't disagree, Gator...I guess I just like Apple! similar to the fact that I prefer the beatles over ELO, or cold ice cream over warm ice cream, or a regular size prostate over an enlarged prostate....to each his own!

Just teasing....

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Do we know each other?
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According to AI, it's a tablet. IMO it's a reader.

Thats what I was thinking, that its not really a Table nor even an iPad category. Yet so many reviewers and bloggers are glowing the Fire as a great buy instead of the iPad for 200 bucks. Yet they always fail to mention what exactly will be missing for that price and 7" factor is terrible for magazines or comic book readers.
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Hmm. . . Christopher from Arizona. . .

Do we know each other?

I'm in fountain hills!
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An important point that should be mentioned. The Fire has only been out on Amazon for a few days, yet already 25% of upcoming tablet purchasers stated they want one over the iPad, around for a couple of years now and widely/often advertised. IMHO that's quite an accomplishment for Amazon and is an indication of the market visibility they have.

Kind of like how the HP Touchpad did amazingly once they dropped the price to $100? I'm willing to bet that a lot of the people who are saying they will buy a Fire over an iPad would never have spent the $500 in the first place, but might consider it for $200. This is likely a price sensitivity more than anything else.


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So is the Kindle a Tablet or not a Tablet?

Not according to ArsTechnica. They said that as long as you don't think of it as a tablet, you'll be ok. It wasn't a very positive review honestly.
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An important point that should be mentioned. The Fire has only been out on Amazon for a few days, yet already 25% of upcoming tablet purchasers stated they want one over the iPad, around for a couple of years now and widely/often advertised. IMHO that's quite an accomplishment for Amazon and is an indication of the market visibility they have.

Where are they stats that say they want one over the iPad, which is not the same as likely getting a Kindle Fire instead of an iPad due to the low cost. I want my own private jet over flying coach, but you guess which one is more likely to happen first?

You are trying to paint a picture that iPad sales will fall and that somehow the iPad will lose out in the market, but that's simply not the case. Here's how I (we all) know this: 1) Kindle Fire is a loss leader which means that Apple is still getting the profits from the tablet market. 2) Not being a fully functional tablet the iPad is still in an inexpensive replacement for the casual and/or on the go computer user. 3) Kindle Fire's forking of Android and loss leader device has made it much harder for other tablet makers to try to come in below Apple to steal marketshare. You either have the entry level device that is to tablets as AOL was to the Internet, and you have the iPad.

The Kindle Fire will do very well to help Amazon's bottom line in selling their other wares, but Apple will do even better from the Kindle Fire's entry into the tablet market.
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Looking at electronics catalogues this Christmas, it can now be said that we're officially in the Post PC Era. Mainstream consumers will no longer be purchasing PC's as their new computers.

The Kindle Fire can't possibly replace a computer. Sales of it will most likely simply take the place of some other big ticket item under a bunch of Christmas trees and then get tossed aside like so many other christmas gifts. And it can't be selling nearly as well as anyone thought because there is no wait to buy them.
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You are trying to paint a picture that iPad sales will fall and that somehow the iPad will lose out in the market. . .

Not at all

I'm noting that I find it amazing that Amazon got such a high profile for their Fire within days of it's release, attracting 25% of probable tablet buyers this holiday season. How does that become "ipad sales will fall". With the tablet market so hot right now even if Amazon sells 5 million Kindle Fire's between now and the end of the year, iPad sales would still go up over last season.
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Where are they stats that say they want one over the iPad, which is not the same as likely getting a Kindle Fire instead of an iPad due to the low cost. I want my own private jet over flying coach, but you guess which one is more likely to happen first?

there are no stats that say this. iPad demand, according to this survey, is still fairly steady. The survey seems to indicate nothing more than that the Fire is the choice of non-iPad tablet consumers.
And I am guessing demand is slowing from when the survey was taken and that returns will be fairly high on this item, based on no wait time to buy the Fire and anecdotal evidence from Best Buy, where apparently half the Fires sold come back the next day.
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there are no stats that say this. iPad demand, according to this survey, is still fairly steady. The survey seems to indicate nothing more than that the Fire is the choice of non-iPad tablet consumers.
And I am guessing demand is slowing from when the survey was taken and that returns will be fairly high on this item, based on no wait time to buy the Fire and anecdotal evidence from Best Buy, where apparently half the Fires sold come back the next day.

I bet survey doesn't cover how these potential tablet buyers werent tablet buyers when the price of entry started at $500, not $200.

I bet the Kindle is more like the iPod Touch in introducing people to a new way of computing. Fr the Fire it introduces them to the tablet concept, with the Touch it introduces them to Apple and iOS ecosystem. I predict record iPad sales this quarter.
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Down market today...

- 5.44% AMZN
+1.45% BKS (Barnes and Noble)

For an interesting perspective, go to eBay and see how the iPad, Fire and Nook Color are being listed...

Edit: Look at PlayBook and Galaxy Tab too...
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I bet survey doesn't cover how these potential tablet buyers werent tablet buyers when the price of entry started at $500, not $200.

I bet the Kindle is more like the iPod Touch in introducing people to a new way of computing. Fr the Fire it introduces them to the tablet concept, with the Touch it introduces them to Apple and iOS ecosystem. I predict record iPad sales this quarter.

Boy are you ever taking a leap there!?! The Vegas odds are dead even... no money on that horse as a spectator... unless you own some of the horse

AAPL looking very "attractive" today... what gives?
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Down market today...

- 5.44% AMZN
+1.45% BKS (Barnes and Noble)

For an interesting perspective, go to eBay and see how the iPad, Fire and Nook Color are being listed...

Edit: Look at PlayBook and Galaxy Tab too...

I looked at eBay and don't see a pattern or anything notable. What is it you're getting at?
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The Kindle Fire can't possibly replace a computer. Sales of it will most likely simply take the place of some other big ticket item under a bunch of Christmas trees and then get tossed aside like so many other christmas gifts. And it can't be selling nearly as well as anyone thought because there is no wait to buy them.

Although I am anticipating a tablet purchase in the next year (possibly an iPad 3 or maybe not) a tablet will NEVER replace a desktop computer for me. I have always played computer based games and need a mouse/keyboard combo to do so effectively. Also just not enough graphical horsepower in a tablet.

I can see the tablet being used for watching movies/facebook/browsing/email a lot though.

Come on Apple give me an iPad 3 with a high res display!
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See how well a product can do if you sell it at a $50 loss per unit! I'm not convinced this is the best idea yet.

Agreed.
In addition, Amazon may just define the Non-iPad tablet market. That would suck for Samsung and, if the experience isn't all people hoped it would be, it will set Apple up for iPod like domination of this market (at least for a while longer...).

[Conversely, if people find that the Fire does all that they want a tablet to do, Apple will have a very hard time keeping their sales (and margins) where they are now.]
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It Made Find My iPad a pointless feature for a locked WiFI iPad that doesn't auto find networks.

It sucks that you lost your iPad, but you can make it send you an email alert as soon as somebody else finds it and they try to connect to a WIFI network.
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