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Backpedaling on a rumor that Apple would release iOS 5.0.2 to address software bugs this week, a new rumor claims the update has been delayed due to memory leaks in the code.

German-language site Macerkopf.de posted an update on Monday in which the site claimed that iOS 5.0.2 requires more testing before it can be released. A source reportedly said that the company doesn't want to be in a rush to release another minor release in the form of iOS 5.0.3 soon after.

The site originally reported last week that an iOS 5.0.2 update would arrive "no later" than this week to address battery life issues experienced by some iPhone 4S users. Apple already issued one update earlier this month in the form of iOS 5.0.1 to quash bugs, including some related to battery life, as well as Documents in the Cloud.

The rumored iOS 5.0.2 update is said to provide iPhone 4S users with 10 hours of active use. Apple's official technical specifications advertise 200 hours of standby time, up to 8 hours of 3G talk time, 6 hours of 3G Internet use, 10 hours of video playback, or 40 hours of audio playback.

Last week's report also claimed that Apple is also working on its next major iOS update, numbered 5.1, with "many changes" related to Siri voice control. But the site said development of Siri is "very expensive," and the update will not arrive until after the new year.

Macerkopf.de incorrectly reported earlier this year that Apple would take the wraps off iOS 5 and a newly updated MobileMe at a media event in early April, consistent with its actions in years past. But this year the company actually waited until its Worldwide Developers Conference in June to unveil iOS 5 and iCloud.
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Good. Get it right, then push it out.

Now about those Safari memory leaks

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I hope Siri gets integrated into Goog'em maps next update. I hate asking her where something is, only for me have to look at teh screen. Navigate it for me woman!
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This site's claims seem ridiculous.

1) Why does anyone think Apple would release a new update in Thanksgiving week is beyond me. Not only will they be receiving a large influx of new users, they will have far less employees at hand to actually troubleshoot any issues.

2) "Siri development is expensive"? This makes no sense. Really, none at all. Apple has a largely fixed number of developers working on Siri (or any other project), and Siri will be updated when those developers are able to complete their work. Adding more people (hence increasing costs) will not make Siri updates come any earlier ("Mythical Man Month"). It's possible that Siri operations are expensive, so Apple wants to limit its capabilities for now, but that is not what the site is claiming.

The site is clearly just making stuff up. Have they had any rumors that were accurate?
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I hope Siri gets integrated into Goog'em maps next update. I hate asking her where something is, only for me have to look at teh screen. Navigate it for me woman!

That does seem pretty silly. On android, say "Navigate to 123 Main St, Any Town, Any State", and the right thing happens. We all patiently await Siri 2.
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This site's claims seem ridiculous.

1) Why does anyone think Apple would release a new update in Thanksgiving week is beyond me. Not only will they be receiving a large influx of new users, they will have far less employees at hand to actually troubleshoot any issues.

2) "Siri development is expensive"? This makes no sense. Really, none at all. Apple has a largely fixed number of developers working on Siri (or any other project), and Siri will be updated when those developers are able to complete their work. Adding more people (hence increasing costs) will not make Siri updates come any earlier ("Mythical Man Month"). It's possible that Siri operations are expensive, so Apple wants to limit its capabilities for now, but that is not what the site is claiming.

The site is clearly just making stuff up. Have they had any rumors that were accurate?

I had an Apple Store employee tell me 5.0.2 would be coming before Thanksgiving to address additional and/or continued issues with the battery drain of some devices.
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That does seem pretty silly. On android, say "Navigate to 123 Main St, Any Town, Any State", and the right thing happens. We all patiently await Siri 2.

Siri is genius, but I think they held it back too much. I want to be able to do most things from Siri. The Navigation is most important to me for right now.
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This site's claims seem ridiculous.

1) Why does anyone think Apple would release a new update in Thanksgiving week is beyond me. Not only will they be receiving a large influx of new users, they will have far less employees at hand to actually troubleshoot any issues.

Indeed. The fact that this is a rumor negating a rumor adds to the ridiculous levels.

Plus has anyone actually seen this 5.0.2 in the developers info. Wouldn't they release this so that apps can be appropriately updated, just like they did with 5.0.1. I don't recall any peeps about this one

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I had an Apple Store employee tell me 5.0.2 would be coming before Thanksgiving to address additional and/or continued issues with the battery drain of some devices.

But did the employee say that based on actual info from Cupe (which would be a first) or because he read it on a site like this and assumed they knew what they were talking about

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But did the employee say that based on actual info from Cupe (which would be a first) or because he read it on a site like this and assumed they knew what they were talking about

He said he was allowed to tell me that. I was returning my iPhone 4S at the time. I specifically asked himbecause it's not like an Apple Store employee to divulge any information about such things, including certain issues with devices.
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Although I'm not having any problems with the 4s, I'm reading that others are having several issues in addition to the battery problems. Apple should take their time and polish the update. Every little issue with an Apple product seems to be blown out of proportion on the web.
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That does seem pretty silly. On android, say "Navigate to 123 Main St, Any Town, Any State", and the right thing happens. We all patiently await Siri 2.

I have really high hopes for iOS 6, especially in regards to Siri+Maps. Im sure Siri will add all sorts of features and get even more accurate. All of those map-related purchases will probably pay off next year too. 3D maps, turn-by-turn, Schematics, etc. should really put iOS at the top of the heap when it comes to navigation. Add Siri integration and it will blow minds!
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2) "Siri development is expensive"? This makes no sense. Really, none at all. Apple has a largely fixed number of developers working on Siri (or any other project), and Siri will be updated when those developers are able to complete their work. Adding more people (hence increasing costs) will not make Siri updates come any earlier ("Mythical Man Month"). It's possible that Siri operations are expensive, so Apple wants to limit its capabilities for now, but that is not what the site is claiming.

The site is clearly just making stuff up. Have they had any rumors that were accurate?

Siri team is said to be one of the biggest team in Apple. That shows how serious and invested Apple is to Siri..
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I was under the impression that Apple gave everyone the week off for Thanksgiving, at least according to Tim Cook.
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I was under the impression that Apple gave everyone the week off for Thanksgiving, at least according to Tim Cook.

Did you not read the memo fully? A week off, from home.
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He said he was allowed to tell me that. I was returning my iPhone 4S at the time. I specifically asked him because it's not like an Apple Store employee to divulge any information about such things, including certain issues with devices.

Wait, that's a joke, right?

Apple store employees love to spout off and pretend they know something that's not public. And they never do.

I really hope you're kidding.
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Did you not read the memo fully? A week off, from home.

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In recognition of the hard work you've put in this year, we're going to take some extra time off for Thanksgiving. We will shut down with pay on November 21, 22 and 23 so our teams can spend the entire week with their families and friends.

Or were you joking again?

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Or were you joking again?

Well, if it were my company, all vacations take place at work!
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Also, Apple please rename Music app to iPod again.
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Also, Apple please rename Music app to iPod again.

And recombine the videos into it?

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And recombine the videos into it?

I forgot about that. I still haven't had an iPod yet, so I want it to say iPod. I know I'm a few years late....but I want ot be apart of something!
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Maybe Apple should turn on Automatic Reference Counting in their code.
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Wait, that's a joke, right?

Apple store employees love to spout off and pretend they know something that's not public. And they never do.

I really hope you're kidding.

Not at all. This is the first time I've ever had an Apple Store employee tell me about an impending update.
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I'm not sure what the deal is, but all my apps keep crashing after updating to 5.0.1 on both my iPhone 4S' (including Safari). Hopefully, Apple takes their time and 5.0.2 is more stable.
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Not at all. This is the first time I've ever had an Apple Store employee tell me about an impending update.

Right, but you've been around here long enough to know that it happens all the time all over the country. No?

If not, allow me to be the one to break it to you - even if the guy crossed his heart in the boy scout pledge of honor, he doesn't know non-public information.
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All I know is this:
3GS with 4.3/5.0 - 6am - 6pm, 3% battery used
4S with 5.0 - 6am - 6pm, 4-5% battery used
4S with 5.01 - 6am - 6pm, 13% battery used. Holey underwear! WTF!
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I'm not sure what the deal is, but all my apps keep crashing after updating to 5.0.1 on both my iPhone 4S' (including Safari). Hopefully, Apple takes their time and 5.0.2 is more stable.

Of course your phone would be having every possible problem.


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Right, but you've been around here long enough to know that it happens all the time all over the country. No?

If not, allow me to be the one to break it to you - even if the guy crossed his heart in the boy scout pledge of honor, he doesn't know non-public information.

That isn't what I recall as the norm. Always seemed they tight lipped even about known betas and issues, hence my surprise, even thought a thanksgving week release seems unlikely.
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Of course your phone would be having every possible probles.



That isn't what I recall as the norm. Always seemed they tight lipped even about known betas and issues, hence my surprise, even thought a thanksgving week release seems unlikely.

What?
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Also, Apple please rename Music app to iPod again.

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And… recombine the videos into it?

For that matter, why are the App Store and the Bookstore fractured away from "iTunes" (which should be called the "iTunes Store", for clarity)? I recently did a iTunes store search on my laptop, found a book I wanted, but when I went to the iTunes app on my phone I couldn't find it (my phone wasn't connected and I don't have wireless sync on; I'm one of those 4S battery people)... realized I needed to go into "iBook" and then "Library" tab, and *then* search for the book.

Not only is it cumbersome to have one kind of interface on a laptop (i.e., a unified iTunes store) and another on the phones, but it's also counter-productive. If I search a topic in the unified store, I might get synergies that I didn't expect.

For instance I might search "yoga" looking for a video, but then find a link to a great book, and/or podcast, and/or app. But if I do the search on the phone, in "iTunes" I'll only get part of those results (including, *oddly*, including audiobooks, but not written books!); conversely if I search in the Library of iBooks, I'll find books but not any apps or podcasts, etc.

This doesn't make sense; for simplicity, synergies, and the simple freeing up of space on the home screen, there should just be one app called "Store", where I can search what I want, broad or narrow.
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All I know is this:
3GS with 4.3/5.0 - 6am - 6pm, 3% battery used
4S with 5.0 - 6am - 6pm, 4-5% battery used
4S with 5.01 - 6am - 6pm, 13% battery used. Holey underwear! WTF!

Yup, me too; my 4S was bad at first with 5.0, but seemed to stabilize after draining the battery to 2% and then recharging (plus me turning off push and doing some other tweaks). My first day with 5.0.1 was like going back to square one; and two nights ago, I went to bed with the phone around 18% and woke up with a brick that wouldn't even come on when plugged in; I had to have it plugged in for over 3 minutes before it would respond to any input. That's just crazy.
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There is no 5.0.2 in any developer release, so I really heartily doubt this is accurate. It would positively befuddle me for Apple to keep a minor bump some major secret... so secret that not even developers get to install and test it.

Although I could be wrong, from my vantage point there is no 5.0.2 right now - the whole thing is a myth. If it drops on our doorsteps tomorrow so much the better, but from what I can see, this is just a bunch of hooey.
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I'm not sure what the deal is, but all my apps keep crashing after updating to 5.0.1 on both my iPhone 4S' (including Safari). Hopefully, Apple takes their time and 5.0.2 is more stable.

Are you sure you aren't, say, exaggerating just a wee bit?

All of them crash. All. You can't do anything with your phone, because the apps all crash.

Somehow I find that really difficult to believe - call me a contrarian.
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pls get it right ..........this time!!!!!!!!!!!!
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All I know is this:
3GS with 4.3/5.0 - 6am - 6pm, 3% battery used
4S with 5.0 - 6am - 6pm, 4-5% battery used
4S with 5.01 - 6am - 6pm, 13% battery used. Holey underwear! WTF!

I don't understand these people who just put their phone on the desk all day and get that kind of battery life! Maybe I'm an outlier but I use my phone heavily! Web browsing, email, phone calls, all day long as part of my job. With old iPhones I'd make it to 5 PM with 40-50% left. With the 4S, I am at 30% by 5 usually, but it doesn't die before bed like it used to.

I think what really happened is that the phone goes from 100 --> 30% much faster than it used to, but slower the rest of the way. I think it's really all just a recalibration of the battery drain, not a change in usage. For the most part, that is. Of course the people who truly get far less life, that's something happening. But I think a lot of people see their phone hit 30% super fast and assume that something's wrong, but don't ever wait to see how long that 30% lasts them. I bet Apple recalibrates it as part of 5.02.
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Well since iOS 5 came out I can't go a day without my iPhone 4 completely running out of battery life. And I hardly use it! I've found various articles advising turning off location services, and other tips which I've done, but it doesn't seem to help.

Pathetic.
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Well since iOS 5 came out I can't go a day without my iPhone 4 completely running out of battery life. And I hardly use it! I've found various articles advising turning off location services, and other tips which I've done, but it doesn't seem to help.

Pathetic.

Well, since iOS 5 came out, I can still go a week or more without my 1st gen iPad completely running out of battery life. And I don't hardly use it.

Wonderful.

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Well, since iOS 5 came out, I can still go a week or more without my 1st gen iPad completely running out of battery life. And I don't hardly use it.

Wonderful.

<slow clap>

Wow I wish I lived in your world where you never had any issues. Must be nice.
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<slow clap>

Wow I wish I lived in your world where you never had any issues. Must be nice.

Your assessment of "pathetic" is not indicative of the entire pool of experiences. It is nice to live in a world where my experiences are not immediately assumed to be the ONLY experiences, yes.

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I don't understand these people who just put their phone on the desk all day and get that kind of battery life! Maybe I'm an outlier but I use my phone heavily! Web browsing, email, phone calls, all day long as part of my job. With old iPhones I'd make it to 5 PM with 40-50% left. With the 4S, I am at 30% by 5 usually, but it doesn't die before bed like it used to.

I think what really happened is that the phone goes from 100 --> 30% much faster than it used to, but slower the rest of the way. I think it's really all just a recalibration of the battery drain, not a change in usage. For the most part, that is. Of course the people who truly get far less life, that's something happening. But I think a lot of people see their phone hit 30% super fast and assume that something's wrong, but don't ever wait to see how long that 30% lasts them. I bet Apple recalibrates it as part of 5.02.

I do not use my phone for my work, not much at all during the day(maybe at lunch). But, your experience is an additional 'data point' to consider.
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Your assessment of "pathetic" is not indicative of the entire pool of experiences...

I never said it was. The fact that you would jump to that conclusion is odd.
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