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http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/22-p...-one-50006139/

Yeah, according to a host of people on this site: a. You just trolled b. that is an invalid source c. they didn't survey every iphone owner 4. Apple is invincbile. This is a lie and CNET.com is just a bunch of Fandroids.<-----These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA or PETA.
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Use a Wp7 device for an hour or try out a Galaxy Nexus with Ice Cream Sandwich. Both are innovating by taking interaction and intuitive design to a level beyond ios5.
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Use a Wp7 device for an hour

Oh, I have. Unless they've done a major UI update in the last nine months, I know what they're all about.

Windows Phone 7 is elegant. I appreciate what they're doing there. There's just no soul.

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or try out a Galaxy Nexus with Ice Cream Sandwich. Both are innovating by taking interaction and intuitive design to a level beyond ios5.

Cool. I think I will. I haven't played with Android since Froyo and maybe an early Gingerbread, so it's high time I take another look. Thanks for the tip.

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http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/22-p...-one-50006139/

It's not limited to the UK. South Korea is also having iPhone 4S woes - http://9to5mac.com/2011/11/23/iphone...ack-of-4g-lte/ (and notice that that's from an Apple news site).
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Windows Phone 7 is elegant. I appreciate what they're doing there. There's just no soul.

Wow. Just... wow.

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Windows Phone 7 is elegant. I appreciate what they're doing there. There's just no soul.



Can't disagree with you there.

I honestly think it's the most elegant looking of the OSes...but it is utterly boring IMO.
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Can't disagree with you there.

I honestly think it's the most elegant looking of the OSes...but it is utterly boring IMO.

It's a bit stark, but the user experience is actually very good.

MSFT has done a fair job of mating software to hardware as well, which is where android falls short big time.

I am running a GSII. Awesome phone. I don't have any real complaints in fact. I wouldn't trade it for an i4S. The biggest issue is screen size.

If the i4S had at least a 4" screen it would make a huge difference.
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It's a bit stark, but the user experience is actually very good.

MSFT has done a fair job of mating software to hardware as well, which is where android falls short big time.

I am running a GSII. Awesome phone. I don't have any real complaints in fact. I wouldn't trade it for an i4S. The biggest issue is screen size.

If the i4S had at least a 4" screen it would make a huge difference.

yea I wish Google would exercise some (maybe even half) of the control Microsoft has over their OS.

At this time they have the content, they have the software going in the right direction...etc.

They could tighten up at least as far as carrier control and OEM customization goes and still be relatively open.
post #250 of 272
The ad could have been a bit tighter, but it was pretty funny and I think also effective.
People do a whole lot of buying based on subconscious imagery, just like the "creative" guy in the ad does, but poking at that behavior a bit and turning conscious thought toward it makes it fizzle. Samsung is doing exactly that and asking, "do you want to pick stuff based on its actual merits?". Most would answer yes to that.
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Samsung is doing exactly that and asking, "do you want to pick stuff based on its actual merits?". Most would answer yes to that.

Indeed, but the assumption of the ad is that a huge screen and 4G are both "merits" and that they trump all other considerations.

I honestly do not understand the recent obsession with larger screens. Not so many years ago, before smartphones took off, folks were bragging about how small their phones were! After all, a phone is meant to be a portable device that fits in your pocket/purse and that you can hold in your hand comfortably. If Apple were ever to offer more than one iPhone form-factor, I would hope that the additional one would be smaller than the current one, not bigger.

4G requires first-generation chipsets with higher power consumption than 3G chipsets; personally I prefer the better battery life versus higher speeds. And anyway, what the hell is the point of having a phone that can do 40 Mbps or whatever if your data allowance for a whole month is only 1 GB? The limiting factor for a lot of web-browsing on mobiles is rendering speed and latency, not downlink speed.

Finally, what about all the other considerations for a smartphone, such as the overall user experience, how long your phone is likely to be supported w.r.t. software updates, sound quality, screen quality, overall build quality etc. etc.?
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post #252 of 272
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Indeed, but the assumption of the ad is that a huge screen and 4G are both "merits" and that they trump all other considerations. 4G requires first-generation chipsets with higher power consumption than 3G chipsets; personally I prefer the better battery life versus higher speeds.

It's plainly obvious that those features are merits for some users. Samsung has other phones with different features. Even the SII itself is also available with a 3G chipset. Is choice bad?
Pointing out "hey, we offer these cool features and Apple doesn't" doesn't even remotely imply those features "trump all other considerations". When Apple makes an ad that only talks about Siri, does that imply Apple doesn't give a shit about screen quality?
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And anyway, what the hell is the point of having a phone that can do 40 Mbps or whatever if your data allowance for a whole month is only 1 GB? The limiting factor for a lot of web-browsing on mobiles is rendering speed and latency, not downlink speed.

1 GB cap with 4G is absurd. Is it Samsung's fault if you have a niggardly data plan?
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Finally, what about all the other considerations for a smartphone, such as the overall user experience, how long your phone is likely to be supported w.r.t. software updates, sound quality, screen quality, overall build quality etc. etc.?

What about them? We're talking about a short ad here.
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Oh, I have. Unless they've done a major UI update in the last nine months, I know what they're all about.

Windows Phone 7 is elegant. I appreciate what they're doing there. There's just no soul.



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Can't disagree with you there.

I honestly think it's the most elegant looking of the OSes...but it is utterly boring IMO.

It feels anything but soulless to me. That said, Microsoft has yet to build an arsenal of Apps that have the same smooth functionality and sheer enjoyability as iOS. This may be one reason why Wp7 feels less robust, or slightly boring. There many things I see Microsoft not doing that are bothersome; App development, or the lack thereof, for example.
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No one is waiting in line to buy a stupid Samsung knockoff phone
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Originally Posted by Mr. H View Post

I honestly do not understand the recent obsession with larger screens. Not so many years ago, before smartphones took off, folks were bragging about how small their phones were! After all, a phone is meant to be a portable device that fits in your pocket/purse and that you can hold in your hand comfortably. If Apple were ever to offer more than one iPhone form-factor, I would hope that the additional one would be smaller than the current one, not bigger.

That was before the primary I/O were one and same. Personally, I want the iPhone display to move to 4", but only if that can be achieved without losing any of it's single-handed usability. That means a thinner overall case and/or a display closer to the edge so my hand can cusp comfortably any my thumb can still sweep easily.

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Finally, what about all the other considerations for a smartphone, such as the overall user experience, how long your phone is likely to be supported w.r.t. software updates, sound quality, screen quality, overall build quality etc. etc.?

What about them? We're talking about a short ad here.

Apple has done great job at capturing a feeling when using their iPhone and iPad so it's possible to put them in a 30 second spot. While this is the best Android-based vendor ad it's still very superficial.

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post #256 of 272
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Windows Phone 7 is elegant. I appreciate what they're doing there. There's just no soul.

Wait...what?





Apple supporter --> Apple fan --> Apple fanatic --> Apple lunatic.

That is your progress.

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No one is waiting in line to buy a stupid Samsung knockoff phone

If that makes you feel better.

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post #257 of 272
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Wait...what?

Apple supporter --> Apple fan --> Apple fanatic --> Apple lunatic.

That is your progress.

You're completely and utterly wrong. You should revise your view of me before continuing to make baseless accusations.

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post #258 of 272
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My ears don't belong to GSM Arena.

I hope you know reviews are subjective and aren't to be taken as fact. Most people think Superman 64 is the worst game ever. There is one person that think it's the greatest thing to grace the earth.

GSMArena base their reviews on audio tests they aim to make as objective as possible, the method they use is outlined here.

This is the reason I chose them as a source, to remove the subjectivity, although as I stated it is easy to test if you have a Galaxy S II variant, an iPhone 4 or 4S and a set of high end headphones (which are available to try in Apple stores).


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There are no high end headphones for sale at any Apple store..

I'm talking headphones from manufacturers such as Bose, Etymotics, Beats by Dre etc. that cost more than many Android phone's currently being sold.

In Australian Apple store's they are available to try.

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Wasn't it Samsung who hired a flock of people to stand outside a store pretending to wait for one their phones?

They sold 10 $2 Galaxy S II's per day to a small line of mainly backpackers, in a pop up store they set up a couple of doors down from the Apple store in George Street, Sydney.
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post #259 of 272
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Wait...what?
Apple supporter --> Apple fan --> Apple fanatic --> Apple lunatic.
That is your progress.

I think it's just that he is a unique kind of guy.
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I think it's just that he is a unique kind of guy.

I have fairly radical views about the future of technology.

But, hey, so did Steve Jobs.

*GASP* "HE'S COMPARING HIMSELF TO STEVE JOBS! HE THINKS HE'S STEVE REINCARNATE! *mock oohooohoohooo-ing* ALL BOW BEFORE THE MIGHTY STEVE! HIS WORD IS LAW! HE MUST BE RIGHT!"

No. \ Not my point. Entirely wrong. I'm not comparing myself to Steve. I'm a worthless wretch who can't seem to do anything right in any aspect of life. I've no business sense. I couldn't run a company, nor would I want to. I'm just some stupid guy.

I did design GarageBand for the iPad* two months before even the first iPad was announced, however. I did it as part of a writing assignment for a gen-ed writing class. I was as shocked as anyone else when I saw what I had done come to life on stage, presented by Steve Jobs himself, much less something I had done for a WRITING assignment.

I'm occasionally in line with Apple's vision, is all.

None of this has anything to do with why I feel Windows Phone 7 has no heart to it, I suppose. Just more clarification of my self-image.

*Not anything that Apple actually used. I did this wholly independently, but darn if I wasn't spot on with it. No one's gonna believe me, even though I have timestamped files to prove it. Timestamps can be faked; I understand that. If you really wanted proof, you'd have to talk the professor of the class, whom I've not seen since I turned in that assignment, the final, several years ago. She'd still have the files I gave her back then. Not important, though. Doesn't matter.

Originally Posted by helia

I can break your arm if I apply enough force, but in normal handshaking this won't happen ever.
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post #261 of 272
This commercial came on tonight after Thanksgiving dinner, and my dingus brother-in-law laughed out loud when he saw it. He loves this stupid commercial.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

I have fairly radical views about the future of technology.

But, hey, so did Steve Jobs.

*GASP* "HE'S COMPARING HIMSELF TO STEVE JOBS! HE THINKS HE'S STEVE REINCARNATE! *mock oohooohoohooo-ing* ALL BOW BEFORE THE MIGHTY STEVE! HIS WORD IS LAW! HE MUST BE RIGHT!"

No. \ Not my point. Entirely wrong. I'm not comparing myself to Steve. I'm a worthless wretch who can't seem to do anything right in any aspect of life. I've no business sense. I couldn't run a company, nor would I want to. I'm just some stupid guy.

I did design GarageBand for the iPad* two months before even the first iPad was announced, however. I did it as part of a writing assignment for a gen-ed writing class. I was as shocked as anyone else when I saw what I had done come to life on stage, presented by Steve Jobs himself, much less something I had done for a WRITING assignment.

I'm occasionally in line with Apple's vision, is all.

None of this has anything to do with why I feel Windows Phone 7 has no heart to it, I suppose. Just more clarification of my self-image.

*Not anything that Apple actually used. I did this wholly independently, but darn if I wasn't spot on with it. No one's gonna believe me, even though I have timestamped files to prove it. Timestamps can be faked; I understand that. If you really wanted proof, you'd have to talk the professor of the class, whom I've not seen since I turned in that assignment, the final, several years ago. She'd still have the files I gave her back then. Not important, though. Doesn't matter.

I'd actually be interested to hear your thoughts on Windows Phone 7's soullessness.
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I wouldn't trade my 4S for ANYTHING Samsung makes. That said, those people who stand in line at the Apple Stores for every new product SHOULD be made fun of.
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More so than those that go to amusement parks? They likely spend money and stand in line a lot longer and have only pictures and memories to show for it, which equate to a zero resale value.

Indeed. Though he has something of a point. Standing in line for EVERY product launch is a little extreme.

Standing in line for that absolutely awesome new product to which you're upgrading from your old model or waiting for the first in a new market of products, however that's fine. You get the memories of standing in line and nonsensically geeking out with the people around you PLUS the physical product to show for it.

And it's good to have you back. Don't let the haters get you down.

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So now Apple should make a commercial with a bunch of Red Bull addled 21 year old boys standing around pretending to shoot each other with their ray gun phones and shouting "DUDE! AWESOME! THESE PHONES ARE EPIC!" when an average looking adult with an iPhone happens by. They start foaming at the mouth and snarling "FANBOY! WANKER! WHY AREN'T BLOWING DEAD STEVE JOBS!!??" and then they all snicker and giggle and high five each other and shoot the adult with their phones going "KEPOW! KEPOW!"

And the iPhone using adult just looks slightly puzzled and keeps walking.

And that's fair because that's how some Android users act so it's a reasonable stand in for all of them.
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post #267 of 272
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So now Apple should make a commercial

Nope. Apple needs to (and will) take the high road and keep pumping out those beautiful ads showing real-world use of devices and their features.

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And that's fair because that's how some Android users act so it's a reasonable stand in for all of them.

Some, yes, but not all. Perhaps your vision for a retaliatory ad will be done by a satirical website. If The Onion does commercials, it sounds like something they'd do. Or perhaps CollegeHumor (does Cracked do video? That's the right name, isn't it?).

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And that's fair because that's how some Android users act so it's a reasonable stand in for all of them.

Here's an example to back this up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00Q9-...ilpage#t=1529s

They take offence at Apple's products getting all the attention despite Android phones being so superior in every way. They don't even seem to consider that without iOS, they wouldn't have Android as it exists nor do they think about the device as a whole. Android still renders some things in 16-bit colour:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2376196,00.asp

I saw this in a few Android devices and noticed it right away. I couldn't believe you'd make a modern device that ever renders content in 16-bit.

A platform needs good hardware, a good operating system with nice frameworks and a good developer environment as well as a software distribution platform. Apple nailed them all because they planned every one. Competing technology looks rushed and they are building on a shoddy foundation. You only have to compare the uninstall methods on each to see this. Whenever you see scrolling console text on a mobile device, you can tell straight away it's wrong.

Some Android phones are very nice and Android itself has some nice features but people need to realise and respect the heritage. Samsung is at least pointing out to everyone where they get their ideas from in their ad.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Nope. Apple needs to (and will) take the high road and keep pumping out those beautiful ads showing real-world use of devices and their features.

I don't actually think Apple should make such an ad, just making a point.

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Some, yes, but not all. Perhaps your vision for a retaliatory ad will be done by a satirical website. If The Onion does commercials, it sounds like something they'd do. Or perhaps CollegeHumor (does Cracked do video? That's the right name, isn't it?).

Right, some not all, just as most iOS users are just run-of-the-mill folk and not clueless hipsters. Again, my point.
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post #270 of 272
Great ad.

Come buy our phone. You know, the one that no one is willing to wait in line for.
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So now Apple should make a commercial with a bunch of Red Bull addled 21 year old boys standing around pretending to shoot each other with their ray gun phones and shouting "DUDE! AWESOME! THESE PHONES ARE EPIC!" when an average looking adult with an iPhone happens by. They start foaming at the mouth and snarling "FANBOY! WANKER! WHY AREN'T BLOWING DEAD STEVE JOBS!!??" and then they all snicker and giggle and high five each other and shoot the adult with their phones going "KEPOW! KEPOW!"

And the iPhone using adult just looks slightly puzzled and keeps walking.

And that's fair because that's how some Android users act so it's a reasonable stand in for all of them.

I can actually find (and actually know) people who nearly fit the satirical representations of FANBOYS portrayed in this commercial.

No one in existence is as you described.
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I can actually find (and actually know) people who nearly fit the satirical representations of FANBOYS portrayed in this commercial.

No one in existence is as you described.

So you've never read Addabox's general statements, say, on this forum disparaging Apple, Steve Jobs or anyone who buy's iToys? I certainly have many, many times over the years.

And you actually know people that have said they buy the iPhone because they are creative or wouldn't buy the new iPhone because people wouldn't know they upgraded? Sure you do!

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