Originally Posted by trumptman
We will have to see but SC and Florida are the last place Gingrich can build some momentum in my opinion. If he doesn't do anything there, then the push towards and past Super Tuesday will probably be too hard to overcome Romney.
I've really been glad to see the Republicans do all these debates. I really came away with Rick Perry in the last third of them. In the beginning he was obviously terrible but quite comfortable with them in the end. I very much appreciate his timing and endorsement with regard to when he decided to quit the campaign. He was a single digits guy and they may help decide something in the first tier. He bowed out with grace and class.
I considered Perry before I saw him debate. The more he spoke, the less I liked him. He really does come off as dumb. And his positions on immigration are not conservative at all.
I thought Romney had a pretty decent debate as well. He's borrowed a few pointers from Newt in that he complements and isn't afraid to acknowledge and agree with his fellow Republicans when up there now. I didn't see that early on. It is a smart debate tactic.
Agreed, though I thought he did better than "pretty decent." He had some great lines and was focused, clear and relatively aggressive when he needed to be. He let Santorum and Gingrich kill each other, ignored Paul, and then nailed Santorum in his retort "if you want to be Governor of Mass, that's great...I want to be President." I also thought he came off very well talking about how he didn't inherit money, but that he earned it.
The only thing that really bugs me is the smile/stammer as I mentally term it and the whole inability to get a handle on certain issues related to his finances. It's almost become like a blind spot for him. He's had multiple debates now to get his head together about releasing his taxes and what is going to happen related to it.
Yeah, he hasn't handled that well. Then again, it's fellow Republicans that are screaming "we" need to see them. It's just political for them. I think it's pretty shameful, actually...especially coming from Gingrich who claims to follow Reagan's "never speak ill of a fellow Republican" mantra.
That said he was, outside of that, very focused, brought the issues back to Obama often in terms of current failed solutions, and generally gave good answers.
Santorum just needs to go. He clearly is like Michelle Bachmann at this stage. He is going to get his single digits, he is a candidate of limited appeal largely related to social issues and he can go home and do his taxes now in my opinion.
Ron Paul was Ron Paul.
Santorum annoys me. He comes off as whiny, then a prosecutor, then boring, then a guy who is just out of touch with modern America. His presence probably helps Romney at this point, however.
Newt, the thing that made what he did so powerful was the contrast to Romney and how he handled the tax release bit across multiple debates. Here the media was going to pitch their curveball and they wanted to watch him squirm, stammer and stumble around on it. He did just the opposite of course. The answer was forceful, clear, exposed the media hypocrisy and really showed the importance of proper issues for a presidential debate to be addressing.
His performance was probably second best on the stage and was better than his earlier performances.
Who was better....Santorum? Newt didn't look at all. Paul was a joke.
I think one of the reasons Gingrich swings so much in polls is that the talking heads go after him quite strongly in part because they outright hate him. They do their gossipy school girl thing. However as the actual voting date comes near and they have to GASP actually speak to the candidate himself, the debates happen, and the airtime has to be filled with the actual news of the election, people actually get to see and hear Newt himself instead of talking head mean girls. His numbers tend to swing pretty dramatically once that happens.
I agree, but the media has to be dealt with. They are not going away, and Romney is much better equipped to deal with them. They don't hate him, which helps.
I think it is all going to be pretty quick and progressive at this stage. The non-Romney's are clearly putting pressure on the second tier candidates. I believe if Santorum is a clear forth he goes home and that alters the dynamics going into Florida. If Romney loses SC it will alter the dymanics badly because the prior narrative being pushed has already started to blow apart. It turns out he did lose Iowa. He won NH but if he loses SC then instead of being the guy who had won three elections in a row, he becomes the guy with a ceiling who only won his neighboring state.
I don't think it matters. Romney will still win Florida, then Nevada...and then it's over. Gingrich can't compete with Romney money-wise and organizationally, especially in Florida.
This has been addressed in the past but you've got your blinders on. Go eat your oats.