iPhone battery woes persist with Apple's first iOS 5.1 beta - Page 3

Originally Posted by rugby_kid

Wow, my 4S was on 20% when I went to bed last night, forgot to charge, and by morning it was 16%. You guys have some really bad issues on your phones there. Gotta bad batch.

Originally Posted by charlituna


And thus your phone is constantly seeking that bluetooth which means that it is never inactive. and that could be killing your battery

Originally Posted by Vulpes

Sorry, forgot to mention -- this is a 4, not a 4s

Originally Posted by wayner8088

My battery problems began after installing iOS 5 on my iPhone 4. The battery drain was substantial, even in sleep mode I would wake the phone and the battery would drain by more than 10% in less than 15 minutes! No activity!
One solution that worked was simply turning off 3G. But in my line of work that defies the purpose of owning this phone. As a field technician I'm constantly tethered to the phone's 3G network. On 4.3.5 this posed no problem. But now that I'm completely immersed with iCloud, downgrading just isn't an option. I'm currently running 5.0.1.
Any other temporary suggestions?

Originally Posted by SolipsismX

What store can I go to today to give one a test drive?

Originally Posted by irnchriz

Do you have any email accounts configured? ICloud, Exchange any other IMAP push? If you do then your phone is not just sitting in standby mode.

I have been using an old 3GS as a second handset this week without any data services or apps running and get 3 days on a single charge. Between charges I clocked up 5.5hrs of calls.

With my 4 I get a day of use with 3 exchange accounts and iCloud.

Originally Posted by Mazda 3s

As I stated before, this is my same usage model as with my iPhone 4. With Bluetooth always enabled, I got far better battery life with the iPhone 4 than my iPhone 4S.

And even when I disable Bluetooth, the battery meter still drops like a rock, so I said "f**k it" and just left Bluetooth enabled. No need to be inconvenienced if the battery is gonna drain anyway.

Originally Posted by dtidmore

I have the luxury of comparing identically configured IP4 vs IP4S. Both 32GB models, exactly the same apps loaded, same settings, same location, same Airport Extreme (actually ran the test at sisters home over Thanksgiving with same results, so actually two different Airport Extremes). I have diagnostic & usage reporting, Location based iAds, and time zone setting disabled on both. For the test, I also killed all apps other than DataMan and phone. iCloud backup was activated on both devices. WIth both devices fully charged, setting side by side overnight (roughly 9 hours), the IP4S discharged approx 25% MORE than the IP4 (IP4 was at 94%, IP4S down to 70%). DataMan reports the WiFi traffic as identical (within a couple of kilobytes) for the test period, with virtually no 3G activity over the test period (about 20KB on each).

The only other difference was that I had the raise to active feature on Siri active on the IP4S, so I need to rerun the test with that deactivated to see if the results are dramatically different.

I have also noticed that the IP4S discharge rate is all over the place in real use. Sometimes, it goes for several hours with only a few % of discharge and other times, it can drop 10-15% in a matter of an hour or so. In typical daily usage, my IP4S will not make it through a complete day on a single charge unless the usage is minimal, while my spouse, who texts, takes lots of pics (work) and emails those pics in medium size (again work), runs a variety of apps and talks, virtually always makes it thru a typical 12hour day with no problem.

There is definitely something amiss here.

BTW, both iPhones are running 5.0.1 (9A405). As a matter of habit, I did a hard reboot on both after the upgrade to 5.0.1.

David

Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton

Woz's house?

Originally Posted by Mazda 3s

I hope that Apple can work something out. I have an iPhone 4s and battery life is atrocious. I can have a fully charged iPhone, take it off the charger, and it will drop 1% within a few minutes just sitting there on the table doing nothing.

I could also just be browsing the internet at home via Wi-Fi (that's all, just checking a few sites) and see my battery drop from 80% to 70% in about 15 minutes or so. It's very frustrating to say the least.

And yes, I do have Bluetooth enabled. I have Bluetooth in my car and I like the ability to just leave my phone in my pocket and go instead of having to go through multiple to steps to enable/disable Bluetooth when I'm entering/exiting the car so I just leave it enabled all the time.

That being said, my iPhone 4 exhibited NONE of the battery problems that my iPhone 4S has and I have the same usage patterns. I would run my iPhone 4 down to about 50% after a day's work. With the iPhone 4S, I'm down to 20% and sometimes 10% by the end of the day.

Originally Posted by Tallest Skil

I don't do much laughing. And come off it with the hyperbole nonsense.



No. He wasn't.

Originally Posted by bulk001

As a global moderator, start with your own attitude and let the guy have his say.

Originally Posted by jameskatt2

The few users who are complaining about battery life can simply go to an Apple store and get a replacement for the iPhone under warranty.

Nearly everyone else is NOT having battery problems on the iPhone.

Thus, this must be a HARDWARE defect in a few iPhones.

The solution is to simply get a new iPhone under warranty.

Originally Posted by Tallest Skil

I love how everyone seems to think that's Forget it.

He had his say. He posited an opinion and I dismissed it as foolish. If he has more to say (such as a rundown of the power draw of each iPhone component), that's something awesome and we can pick up the discussion from there. As it stands, a single infrared LED being on ALL of the time instead of SOME of the time couldn't possibly be the reason for the battery draining. It's not common sense, sure, but it becomes a foolish suggestion when you know the average power drawn by LEDs and know a little more about the size and scope of Apple's specific ones.

Originally Posted by bulk001

Though he probably does have a life and doesn't obsess about insulting those who don't spend it studying up on the power consumed by an iPhone LED so I will give you that much.

Originally Posted by Tallest Skil

That's completely unwarranted, meaningless, and utterly wrong, but I won't do anything about it (provided you just drop this now) because of how humorous I found it.

Originally Posted by bulk001

Go ahead and do it. Don't let me stop you! But I too have a life and am off to live it now.

Originally Posted by IQatEdo

That's great - please keep us informed.

All the best.

Originally Posted by davidiblackman

obviously this is not a firmware issue, but an IOS issue.

Originally Posted by davidiblackman

all of these messages saying there are no issues with the battery in the 4S dont hold water with me. I had a 4S for one week, had a loss of 40 % PER HOUR, with just being on twitter. thats right, 2 1/2 hours of time. and yes, everything turned off - bluetooth, brightness, location, push and fetch mail, etc. yes, i tried re setting, everything that everyone talks about.

i returned the phone to the apple store. they gave me a new 4S. they advised to set up the phone as a new, not back up from cloud or itunes. they advised NOT to upgrade to 5.01 bug fix. they advised to load selective apps only. i did this exactly, ended up loading 30 or 80 apps i had on i tunes. i was hopeful. Not discernable difference. I lose 20-25% battery life PER HOUR still. obviously this is not a firmware issue, but an IOS issue.

I have posted on apple community support boards - along with over 6,000 others. APPLE is no where to be found, they do not reply, do not issue press releases, nothing. they are no where to be found. this is AWFUL. i am about to return the 4S and go back to my old 4 until a year from now when the 5 comes out.

with so many complaining, how can apple keep its head in the sand? how can they just ignore all of these problems?????

Originally Posted by digitalclips

Well take it back and get a replacement, they work fine normally. Why would you even try to use an obviously damaged or faulty phone?

Mine was just on a cruise filming in HD, taking hundreds of HDR pictures and texting, phoning and being used as a book. The battery lasted all day each day. So cheer up you just have a lemon.

Originally Posted by digitalclips

Well take it back and get a replacement, they work fine normally. Why would you even try to use an obviously damaged or faulty phone?

Mine was just on a cruise filming in HD, taking hundreds of HDR pictures and texting, phoning and being used as a book. The battery lasted all day each day. So cheer up you just have a lemon.

Originally Posted by davidiblackman

Did you read the post? Lemon? This is my second 4s, do
both are lemons? Interesting because I have received
60 replies from all over the country on facebook with
the same problem and 20 DM on twitter saying
they have the same problem too. I guess also
the thousands of posts on Apple community
board are lemons too. We all just have lemons. Just
has to be china, huh? Apple IOS developers are
perfect and can do no wrong. Consumers
are just stupid, don't know how to use the
phones and we need to chill cause we all just
have lemons. Yeah, right. Let us know when
the space shuttle lands. I am genuinely being
sincere in my frustration here and the answer is
to chill out, there is no problem. Do a google search,
tens of thousand of posts in just the past
week about the issue. It's real, dude

Originally Posted by SolipsismX

You do need to chill out. All your conclusions are the exact opposite of what is most likely. A "lemon" refers to a faulty product, not to customers being stupid. Yes, there are thousands of "lemons". This is CE not a Rolls Royce. It's possible that one of the many components in your devices isn't acting correctly. While unlikely it's still far from the impossibility you've made it out to be despite you being the one with the issues.

As tonton has stated the one thing that is going to remain fairly constant is their primary locations. You've excluded buggy firmware as being a potential issue despite that being something Apple has radically changed with each new version and beta. The Qualcomm's MDM66x0 chip in the 4S is new. No one but Apple is using it.

Originally Posted by davidiblackman

OPEN LETTER TO TIM COOK POSTED TODAY ON THE NET
http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/3872/64/

Originally Posted by SolipsismX

Yes, some users are experienced horrendous battery life and Apple is working on it. That "open letter" is no defense of your previous comments.

Originally Posted by davidiblackman

Lets consider the source. Without Apple, there is no AppleInsider. AppleInisder has a vested interest here, so I just consider the source.

Originally Posted by GoPowers

I have noticed a noticeable battery life increase when disabling Siri. When Siri is enabled, a small infrared LED light is always on when your screen is illuminated for the "raise to speak" feature. It's purpose is to notice when you raise your handset to your ear to speak to Siri without any button pressing.

For those with battery issues, I would suggest disabling Siri for a day or two and see if it helps.

Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton

I'd suggest 3 steps. Each one is hopefully all you need to resolve the problem:
1. Reboot the phone.
2. Restore the phone using iTunes (make sure you have backed it up)
3. Make appointment at Apple Store Genius Bar and explain the issue (they may do the above or ask if you have tried the above steps)

Not sure what else to suggest, as I am using the iPhone 4 with 4.3.5 (and plan to keep it that way until Apple sorts it out). But try those steps and let us know if they help.

Originally Posted by jameskatt2

The few users who are complaining about battery life can simply go to an Apple store and get a replacement for the iPhone under warranty.

Nearly everyone else is NOT having battery problems on the iPhone.

Thus, this must be a HARDWARE defect in a few iPhones.

The solution is to simply get a new iPhone under warranty.

Originally Posted by davidiblackman

absolutely, completely totally disagree. this is NOT a hardware issue. this is very very definitely a software issue.

Originally Posted by user23

edit: I'm so very confused. Is SolipsismX the same Solipsism who has been around here for years or?????

Originally Posted by NasserAE

It is not a hardware defect. It is a software bug mainly affecting those people who restored from a previous iOS backup. Some were able to fix the problem by restoring and setting the iPhone as a new device. For me this is not a solution. I don't want to go through reconfiguring 50+ apps on my iPhone.

Originally Posted by davidiblackman

all of these messages saying there are no issues with the battery in the 4S dont hold water with me. I had a 4S for one week, had a loss of 40 % PER HOUR, with just being on twitter. thats right, 2 1/2 hours of time. and yes, everything turned off - bluetooth, brightness, location, push and fetch mail, etc. yes, i tried re setting, everything that everyone talks about.

i returned the phone to the apple store. they gave me a new 4S. they advised to set up the phone as a new, not back up from cloud or itunes. they advised NOT to upgrade to 5.01 bug fix. they advised to load selective apps only. i did this exactly, ended up loading 30 or 80 apps i had on i tunes. i was hopeful. Not discernable difference. I lose 20-25% battery life PER HOUR still. obviously this is not a firmware issue, but an IOS issue.

I have posted on apple community support boards - along with over 6,000 others. APPLE is no where to be found, they do not reply, do not issue press releases, nothing. they are no where to be found. this is AWFUL. i am about to return the 4S and go back to my old 4 until a year from now when the 5 comes out.

with so many complaining, how can apple keep its head in the sand? how can they just ignore all of these problems?????