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post #41 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:13pm
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Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

The guy is no hero. He's a pussy on the run from the law and a criminal.

He's not on the run at all, he's under house arrest in England, appealing a very dodgy extradition order, that has been accelerated beyond all normal protocols. Interpol has a top level arrest warrant for Assange from Sweden. The last one of those issued was for a serial child sex offender, and Assange is accused with what? Possible deception of the degree of contraception used? If guilty, he's certainly a bit of a shit, but an internmational criminal? Exceedingly suspect.

And deserves to die? Take a trip to Iran, this is the Western world, we don't do that.
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post #42 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:14pm
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Originally Posted by rugby_kid View Post

Au contraire, there is no completely evil human being. Wouldn't you agree?

It depends how somebody defines "evil", but there are certainly many bad human beings.
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post #43 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:15pm
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Originally Posted by tinman0 View Post

The fact that he got his ass to the UK pretty quick when this unfolded because he knows our system will take eons before it finally extradites him, would suggest he probably is pretty guilty.

An innocent and honourable man would have faced his accusers in court. I doubt Assange is either.

For having consensual sex without a condom? Give me a break.
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post #44 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:17pm
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And deserves to die? Take a trip to Iran, this is the Western world, we don't do that.

People should be treated as they treat others. If Assange thinks that some people deserve to die, then I don't see any problems with other people thinking that he deserves to die.

And I have no intentions of ever visiting Iran or any other primitive and barbaric, backwards countries.
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post #45 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:18pm
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It depends how somebody defines "evil", but there are certainly many bad human beings.

Wouldn't disagree with that.
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post #46 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:20pm
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For having consensual sex without a condom? Give me a break.

What? Water you talking about?


ASSANGE BABIES!
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post #47 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:22pm
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He's not on the run at all, he's under house arrest in England, appealing a very dodgy extradition order, that has been accelerated beyond all normal protocols. Interpol has a top level arrest warrant for Assange from Sweden. The last one of those issued was for a serial child sex offender, and Assange is accused with what? Possible deception of the degree of contraception used? If guilty, he's certainly a bit of a shit, but an internmational criminal? Exceedingly suspect.

And deserves to die? Take a trip to Iran, this is the Western world, we don't do that.

I could have sworn we had the death pentalty. His offensive are punishable by death if he were American.
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post #48 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:22pm
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Originally Posted by ljocampo View Post

For having consensual sex without a condom? Give me a break.

That's what the rapist claims. Why do you take his word over the word of two women?

We shall see what happens when the case gets tried. Some people here are going to look mighty foolish for having been duped and supporting a serial rapist and molester.
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post #49 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:23pm
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Originally Posted by rugby_kid View Post

Kind of harsh words for a fellow human being, don't ya think?

Apple ][ is not a mature human being. If he is an adult, then he's an adult going on adolescent immaturity.
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post #50 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:24pm
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Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

That's what the rapist claims. Why do you take his word over the word of two women?

We shall see what happens when the case gets tried. Some people here are going to look mighty foolish for having been duped and supporting a serial rapist and molester.

Well, there a lot of people that support Micheal Jackson. Just saying.
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post #51 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by ljocampo View Post

Apple ][ is not a mature human being. If he is an adult, then he's an adult going on adolescent immaturity.

Sometimes maturity is relative.
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post #52 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:30pm
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Originally Posted by ljocampo View Post

Apple ][ is not a mature human being. If he is an adult, then he's an adult going on adolescent immaturity.

I am a highly evolved human being, though certain people who have not yet reached that level of maturity sometimes do take offense to people who dare to think differently and people who are not afraid of telling it like it is.
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post #53 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:31pm
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Originally Posted by ljocampo View Post

Apple ][ is not a mature human being. If he is an adult, then he's an adult going on adolescent immaturity.

I think he is probably 16. Either way the dude is out of control.
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post #54 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:34pm
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I am a highly evolved human being, though certain people who have not yet reached that level of maturity sometimes do take offense to people who dare to think differently and people who are not afraid of telling it like it is.

Lol. *Looks at username* I see what you did there.
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post #55 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:35pm
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Originally Posted by paxman View Post

I think he is probably 16. Either way the dude is out of control.

Somebody else accused me of being 60 in another thread recently.

Make up your minds.
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post #56 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:41pm
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Originally Posted by ljocampo View Post

For having consensual sex without a condom? Give me a break.

You just proved my point. If it was something as simple as that, and if it was consensual, you'd think he'd want his day in court to clear his name. I know I certainly would.

But instead he hides behind the legal system of my country, doing everything in his power to evade the Swedish authorities.
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post #57 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:41pm
This guy is so full of crap it is amazing that he can keep his hair white.

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post #58 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:42pm
"Julian, sure your iPhone and iTunes have backdoors, and your gmail is being read. Given all the friends you have made, you have no reason to be paranoid, they really are out to get you".

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post #59 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:43pm
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WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange claims that an iTunes "flaw" allows surveillance companies to introduce a trojan horse onto users' computers, subsequently selling the sensitive data to government agencies.

In an interview with the Bureau of Investigative Journalism in London on Thursday, Assange purports that governments are using backdoors to access and store sensitive data from every single citizen in entire cities, including a new flaw in iTunes, reports the International Business Times.]

State your sources. List specifics. Give examples. Support your statements. Otherwise, it's just catastrophizing in the form of unsubstantited generalizing that smacks of self-referencing journalism.
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post #60 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:45pm
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Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

Somebody else accused me of being 60 in another thread recently.

Make up your minds.

Well, there are similarities between adolescent political passion and old aged fearful ranting. Each will spew forth nonsense (usually alarmist paranoia), arms flailing, whilst provoking nothing more than a shrug and head shake.
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post #61 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:46pm
The fact that he only mentioned the iPhone and Blackberry on this makes me say one thing: false. Could and should have said smartphone don't you think? So F U Assange
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post #62 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:46pm
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Well, the two women who were raped and sexually assaulted certainly think so.

Who's going to believe that guy over the word of two separate women?

Two women who accused Julian Assange of rape and sexual assault are "relieved" by a London court ruling Wednesday ordering the WikiLeaks founder's extradition to Sweden for questioning, their lawyer said.

http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid...by-ruling.aspx

He told them he wanted to show them the iTunes backdoor....
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post #63 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:54pm
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Originally Posted by paxman View Post

I think he is probably 16. Either way the dude is out of control.

He said he's still in school in another thread- whether it be college or high school, it doesn't matter, because all kids are idiots.

Oh to be 18 again... When I knew everything about everything. I've gotten dumber and my dad has gotten smarter as I've aged.

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post #64 of 105
12/2/11 at 4:58pm
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Well, there are similarities between adolescent political passion and old aged fearful ranting. Each will spew forth nonsense (usually alarmist paranoia), arms flailing, whilst provoking nothing more than a shrug and head shake.

All I can say is, if anybody finds what I write or contribute to this forum to be a waste of time, then they are more than welcome to put me on ignore and that should solve their problems.

I'm not going to change who I am, so people whining about me are going to find out that it is an exercise in futility.
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post #65 of 105
12/2/11 at 5:00pm
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Originally Posted by Andysol View Post

He said he's still in school in another thread- whether it be college or high school, it doesn't matter, because all kids are idiots.

Wrong. You are either mistaken or you are lying.

I have never revealed my age on this forum and I find it quite amusing to see people speculate.
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post #66 of 105
12/2/11 at 5:26pm
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Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

Wrong. You are either mistaken or you are lying.

I have never revealed my age on this forum and I find it quite amusing to see people speculate.

I must've been mistaken. I though I saw you say something about a professor of yours, but I guess not.

I would think if I were you, I'd reflect in the mirror that people think you're childish. I, like you most likely, don't take a ton of stock on what others think- but if everyone thinks you act immature, maybe you do, and that's something you'd want to change. But of course- if you are immature, then you don't care at all about others opinions.

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post #67 of 105
12/2/11 at 5:35pm
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Kind of harsh words for a fellow human being, don't ya think?

Dude, you're responding to a militant fascist. Give it up.
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post #68 of 105
12/2/11 at 5:41pm
The assaults on each other's character stops now, I think. Back to what's left of the story.
PhilBoogie
That's Google alright. For a stupid company they sure do dumb things.
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That's Google alright. For a stupid company they sure do dumb things.
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post #69 of 105
12/2/11 at 5:45pm
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

The assaults on each other's character stops now, I think. Back to what's left of the story.

Lol, the "I think" made me lol.
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post #70 of 105
12/2/11 at 5:55pm
The amount of idiocy and sheer misinformed hatred against assange is staggering...
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post #71 of 105
12/2/11 at 5:56pm
Assange is a fantasist. He had claimed he was going to release all this information that would take down a US bank and the deadline for that came and went without a single bit of proof. He talks garbage and until he can show the proof of what he claims, he should be regarded as little more than a crackpot.
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post #72 of 105
12/2/11 at 6:02pm
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Originally Posted by 8CoreWhore View Post

Assange discloses govt crimes and the conversation falls to
bogus sex claims.

He's a hero. And people are too stupid and brainwashed and frightened to see it. Especially my fellow Americans.

He is an individual with a seriously misplace Messiah Complex. The sad thing is, it seams, some of my fellow Americans are too blinded into worthless paranoia by conspiracy theories to see it.
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post #73 of 105
12/2/11 at 6:20pm
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Originally Posted by tinman0 View Post

You just proved my point. If it was something as simple as that, and if it was consensual, you'd think he'd want his day in court to clear his name. I know I certainly would.

But instead he hides behind the legal system of my country, doing everything in his power to evade the Swedish authorities.

The truth is I never heard of this guy before today's article. He could be a total bad guy. I don't know. I thought I read that this Swedish version of the rape charge was based on not using a condom and he was cleared of what we would actually consider rape because the sex was consensual. As to the "clear his name," maybe he feels he'd never get a fair trial from a court that would bring such a charge. I know I would not want to face a court such as that, and if I had lots of money I probably would fly the coup too. The real story is in the OBJECTIVE facts.
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post #74 of 105
12/2/11 at 6:32pm
So we can track where Julian is in his cell?
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post #75 of 105
12/2/11 at 6:39pm
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Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

I am a highly evolved human being, though certain people who have not yet reached that level of maturity sometimes do take offense to people who dare to think differently and people who are not afraid of telling it like it is.

You could be an idealistic young adult. We all were that way once too. So we know how that defies diplomacy and self-control in dealing with others. Having the security of the Internet forum makes the lack of constraint in what one would say worse. If so, you will conform soon enough. Probably when you are charged with bring up the next generation.

Then again you could be several 16 year-olds having a good laugh. If so, It is working judging by the responses.

In any respect, I wouldn't consider myself highly evolved with such trash spewing out of my mouth.
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post #76 of 105
12/2/11 at 6:44pm
Assange makes it sound like iTunes is just sending the contents of your computer to some hidden government base.

it's not.

The flaw was merely that iTunes had no system of checking the source of a software update as legit and thus agencies could use it a trojan cover to get someone they wanted to monitor to install software that gave them a back door into the computer in question. Social engineering at its finest and stoppable 9 times out of 10 with some common sense. Like if you get a pop up that says that there's a new update for anything and you didn't just turn it on or hit "check for updates" or at least have it running in the background, be suspect. Whether it's iTunes, Flash or something else

And according to reports, Apple fixed this weeks ago
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post #77 of 105
12/2/11 at 6:51pm
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Originally Posted by EmperorsNewClothes View Post

Assange is a fantasist. He had claimed he was going to release all this information that would take down a US bank and the deadline for that came and went without a single bit of proof. He talks garbage and until he can show the proof of what he claims, he should be regarded as little more than a crackpot.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...77L55P20110822
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post #78 of 105
12/2/11 at 6:54pm
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Originally Posted by paxman View Post


I'd +1 this but the government would find out.
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post #79 of 105
12/2/11 at 6:57pm
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Originally Posted by ljocampo View Post

I thought I read that this Swedish version of the rape charge was based on not using a condom and he was cleared of what we would actually consider rape because the sex was consensual.


You are essentially correct. Rape, like Murder, is a very specific legal term and in that sense, no he did not rape those women.

That said, in Sweden if you have sex with a woman and you don't tell her that you aren't using a condom that's still considered sexual assault. A lot of this case is he said, they said. He said he told them he didn't have any condoms and they were basically "whatever lets do this" and they came he never said a word. But neither is likely to be able to prove their side. Unless the punishment for this level of crime is life in jail or your penis being removed, most men would go and state their side with a very sincere "I thought she understood, it seems she didn't and for that I am sorry. I'm happy to pay if she wants to be tested for any STDs etc" and take the probation, the getting kicked out of the country or whatever. But Mr Assange likes to make himself into a martyr so it is no shock he's doing things this way
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post #80 of 105
12/2/11 at 6:58pm
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Originally Posted by brian g View Post

I'd +1 this but the government would find out.

they knew before you even typed it (those weren't aliens that anal probed you)
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