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Apple television rumored to come in 3 sizes, including 32" and 55"

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Apple's full-fledged television set will arrive at the end of 2012 in three screen sizes, maxing out at 55 inches, a new rumor claims.

Citing sources in Japan, Australia's SmartHouse reported this week that the new Apple television will also come in an entry-level size of 32 inches. It did not indicate exactly what screen size the third model would feature, falling somewhere between the low end with 32 inches and maximum size of 55 inches.

The report said it's a "major Japanese company" that's involved in manufacturing Apple's rumored television set. Echoing previous claims, the report said that the Apple television will feature Siri integration, allowing users to control the TV set with their voice.

Powering the rumored television will be a new processor expected to debut in Apple's third-generation iPad, which the publication said will arrive "midway through 2012." Presumably that processor will be an "A6" custom-built ARM-based CPU.

Apple's anticipated high-end 55-inch model is expected to compete with "smart TVs" from established television makers like Samsung and LG. Those companies' next-generation TV sets are expected to have new features like faster processors, a "combination of OLED display," and "Super HD" from LG, the report said.



Rumors of an Apple television set have picked up steam since the release of the authorized biography of Steve Jobs. In that book, Jobs hinted to biographer Walter Isaacson that Apple was at work on a completely new device that would feature "the simplest user interface you could imagine."

Reports have suggested that Apple's anticipated television set could arrive as early as mid 2012, while others have seen Apple announcing it in late 2012 for an early 2013 sale date.
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We need an 'incredulous' emoticon here.

In other news, the iPhone nano is slated to be released on December 15, just in time for the very last of the holiday rush.

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Apple's full-fledged television set will arrive at the end of 2012 in three screen sizes, maxing out at 55 inches, a new rumor claims.

No one at AI is enough of a TV geek to figure the 3rd size would be 46"?

I just hope Apple has the smarts to continue the AppleTV box and remote - only adding the newest iOS/SIRI tech and putting a mike into the remote.

And I ain't hollering across the living room at my TV to find out which channel is broadcasting news right now; but, I might murmur to the remote in my hand to bump the brightness up 2 clicks.
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I was hoping for some options from 65 to 100 inches. 55 inch is so 2009
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And so starts the crux of the problem. TV's are furniture.
My installation requires a 37". So no go for me. (If true, the middle size will probably be 42")
If they did make the size I need, what is the trim? Black? Silver? White? All of these mean no sale to some possibly sizable segment.

Frankly I'll only be upset if they ONLY go the TV route and don't offer the same functionality via a box, because that's the only product I'll be interested in buying.
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personally, i'd rather have an improved appleTV with mic and webcam that will give more functionality than what is offered currently but lets me choose the best panel to suit my needs.

when my current 40" lcd needs replacing, i'd prolly go for a 50+ 3d LED

also - i like streaming my content from the mac to my ps3 or my cable netbox rather than use itunes' limited file support (one of the negatives of apple's tightly knit integration)

also i doubt they will go for siri in the apple tv because the increase in sales will be such that they might over burden their servers, whereas a fully integrated tv will be like many other apple products - niche or highend allowing them to give the discerning customer an excellent experience
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Oh, I just realized another (albeit satirical) reason that absolutely no one would want an Apple HDTV over a non-hobby Apple TV:

It's going to be glossy. And we all know that we can't abide that.

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We need an 'incredulous' emoticon here.

In other news, the iPhone nano is slated to be released on December 15, just in time for the very last of the holiday rush.

And in OTHER other news: When watching porn on Apple's new TV, Siri will have the voice of Ron Jeremy.
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Can't wait to see the interface. I hope they can port it to an external appliance like an AppleTV 2 so it can be used on larger 3rd party displays. 65" is about the smallest I'd settle for.
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Oh, I just realized another (albeit satirical) reason that absolutely no one would want an Apple HDTV over a non-hobby Apple TV:

It's going to be glossy. And we all know that we can't abide that.

Yep, those print related color correction guys will refuse to watch them. Makes you wonder why Apple make things for the rest of the world's population doesn't it?
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And in OTHER other news: When watching porn on Apple's new TV, Siri will have the voice of Ron Jeremy.

Makes me wonder if Siri will have retro theme music.
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I just hope Apple has the smarts to continue the AppleTV box and remote - only adding the newest iOS/SIRI tech and putting a mike into the remote.

Think outside the box. Your iPhone or iPod Touch will be the remote.
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Look at Mac Rumors. They have this same article. I honestly see an Apple Television with a A6 processor. I really don't think Apple will put the A5 in a spendy device. It has been rumored that the A6 will sport two versions. The dual core and the quad core.
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It will be a lot thinner than this mockup photo and I would be surprised if it had the same stand as the iMac!
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Since I doubt AI will cover it MS will be adding a great many channels to the Xbox 360 which really helps pull us away from the idea that the current method is set in stone *though I'm sure MS is paying lump sums the way cable and sat companies are). They are even adding Verizon's FiOS TV to the mix, though I'm not 100% certain what that means for the 360.

In any case it should mean that non-traditional distribution will be a huge part of 2012. But beware because your cable company might start doing some crazy capping, throttling, and/or price hiking if and when they experience a huge exodus of television subscribers.


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No one at AI is enough of a TV geek to figure the 3rd size would be 46"?

42" stuck me as most likely.


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I was hoping for some options from 65 to 100 inches. 55 inch is so 2009

CES should have a lot of large TV screens. Only a month to go…


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And so starts the crux of the problem. TV's are furniture.
My installation requires a 37". So no go for me. (If true, the middle size will probably be 42")
If they did make the size I need, what is the trim? Black? Silver? White? All of these mean no sale to some possibly sizable segment.

Frankly I'll only be upset if they ONLY go the TV route and don't offer the same functionality via a box, because that's the only product I'll be interested in buying.

This is why the whole rumour makes little sense over a versatile and profitable box that can make any TV just a dumb monitor.

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Think outside the box. Your iPhone or iPod Touch will be the remote.

I'm sure those will be able to function as a remote, but making the ONLY option for a remote be a $200+ separate purchase? That's a little too far out of the box, man.
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Think outside the box. Your iPhone or iPod Touch will be the remote.

Perhaps I missed something but when I use my iPhone as a remote...I have to "swipe-it-on" everytime....which makes it a bit too cumbersome.

When Stevo said he "cracked" how to do TV right he meant Siri to replace all but one simple Apple remote....

If it was as simple as putting an ATV inside an HDTV LED screen Apple could have done that a year ago.
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Next we'll be hearing new macs to dispense with keyboards and rely on siri.
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Great. I look forward to a new batch of TV corner radius photos posted in these forums.

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Siri, turn the volume down.

huh?

Siri, turn the volume down!

huh?
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Great. I look forward to a new batch of TV corner radius photos posted in these forums.

LOL I can't believe measures his self worth by posting pics of CE he owns.


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Siri, turn the volume down.

huh?

Siri, turn the volume down!

huh?

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post #22 of 108
I am more or less in the market for a new TV for the living room. I am curious to see what surprises Apple has cooked up--everybody who is proclaiming "meh!" already needs to look back at history.

Remember the surprise (and initial dismay) when the iPhone was first announced? "No keyboard? No fit and paste? Expensive as hell! Web apps??" It took us a while to get it and it took Apple a while to polish it, but now, nobody denies that Apple turned the phone world upside down.

Then came the iPad. Shock and dismay at the name, lack of ports, inability to run "real" software and such. It was hard to see what it would be good at--sure, it is a nice toy, but...

So, to everybody who says this is just going to be an expensive LCD with an AppleTV built in--I totally expect you to be wrong. I don't know what the plan is, but I expect it to be well thought out and to be part of a multi-year roll-out...
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I'm still skeptical. I may buy high end TV's, but i choose the models i want and get them from the cheapest online seller, usually a 40-60% discount on MSRP. We won't see the same discounts on Apple TV's, and i'm not paying 5K or my next TV.
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42" stuck me as most likely.

My bet would be on 46" as someone else mentioned. In the 40"-49" range on Crutchfield.com, 46" was the most common size (sorted by LED TVs) by more than a 2:1 margin. Of course, it depends on who'll be making the screen for Apple. LG has a 47" instead of the more common 46" size.
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Since I doubt AI will cover it MS will be adding a great many channels to the Xbox 360 which really helps pull us away from the idea that the current method is set in stone *though I'm sure MS is paying lump sums the way cable and sat companies are). They are even adding Verizon's FiOS TV to the mix, though I'm not 100% certain what that means for the 360.

In any case it should mean that non-traditional distribution will be a huge part of 2012. But beware because your cable company might start doing some crazy capping, throttling, and/or price hiking if and when they experience a huge exodus of television subscribers.

My understanding is that channels on XBox require an independent subscription, thus Microsoft is simply offering you an alternative to another cable box rather than an alternative to cable. I don't believe that Microsoft XBox will be the beginning of a paradigm shift but buy-in to an already existing but not-yet-fully-realized paradigm shift from an important technology leader.
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I'm still skeptical. I may buy high end TV's, but i choose the models i want and get them from the cheapest online seller, usually a 40-60% discount on MSRP. We won't see the same discounts on Apple TV's, and i'm not paying 5K or my next TV.

I used to get the free Nokia every 2 years from my cellular provider. If you told me I would be on my third $300 phone in under 4 years I would never have believed it...
(not that I am keen on dropping $5K on a TV, but those Cupertino folk know how to make us do strange things...)
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It took us a while to get it and it took Apple a while to polish it, but now, nobody denies that Apple turned the phone world upside down.

My first iPhone was the 3G and is was pretty polished already back in '08. Sure, it was great when they added all those other goodies over the years, but iOS 2.x on the 3G was very polished for it's day.
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My understanding is that channels on XBox require an independent subscription, thus Microsoft is simply offering you an alternative to another cable box rather than an alternative to cable. I don't believe that Microsoft XBox will be the beginning of a paradigm shift but buy-in to an already existing but not-yet-fully-realized paradigm shift from an important technology leader.

I know HBO GO does, but that doesn't mean that HBO et al. won't eventually allow subscriptions to be purchased directly from MS or Apple, completely bypassing the cable companies. In fact, I think that is the only sure fire way these companies will be able to break through this wall.

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When Stevo said he "cracked" how to do TV right he meant Siri to replace all but one simple Apple remote....

Since no one knows this, I highly doubt that.

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post #30 of 108
i propose they'll come in 33", 44" and 55"
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Haha

If it comes in two sizes it will be probably 42" and 55" or something like that. But there certainly won't not be a 33" iTV. These guys are talking out of their asses. I.E. pretending they have inside information when they don't. If they said "here's our prediction" that would be different, but that wouldn't bring them large flows of traffic - now would it?
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Siri only currently requires Apple's servers because it's providing the sort of information that is real time, such as weather or other. However, in controlling a TV, it will be mainly used for choosing channels & content, and making adjustments, such as "Mute volume" or "Lower volume". Either way, if they can handle millions of iPhones, I am sure they can handle TVs, that are likely to sell in lesser quantities unless mind blowingly innovative.

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personally, i'd rather have an improved appleTV with mic and webcam that will give more functionality than what is offered currently but lets me choose the best panel to suit my needs.

when my current 40" lcd needs replacing, i'd prolly go for a 50+ 3d LED

also - i like streaming my content from the mac to my ps3 or my cable netbox rather than use itunes' limited file support (one of the negatives of apple's tightly knit integration)

also i doubt they will go for siri in the apple tv because the increase in sales will be such that they might over burden their servers, whereas a fully integrated tv will be like many other apple products - niche or highend allowing them to give the discerning customer an excellent experience
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And in OTHER other news: When watching porn on Apple's new TV, Siri will have the voice of Ron Jeremy.

Talk about limp.
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personally, i'd rather have an improved appleTV with mic and webcam that will give more functionality than what is offered currently but lets me choose the best panel to suit my needs.

when my current 40" lcd needs replacing, i'd prolly go for a 50+ 3d LED

also - i like streaming my content from the mac to my ps3 or my cable netbox rather than use itunes' limited file support (one of the negatives of apple's tightly knit integration)

also i doubt they will go for siri in the apple tv because the increase in sales will be such that they might over burden their servers, whereas a fully integrated tv will be like many other apple products - niche or highend allowing them to give the discerning customer an excellent experience

AGREED!!!!!

WHY should I buy an entirely new TV when Apple could just release an updated Apple TV box? Why would I use Siri? It would take longer to hold the Siri button down (as on my phone), wait for Siri to respond, have me say what I want, and then wait for Siri to process the request (over the internet)....than for me to just push a few buttons.
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My guess is that the TV (whether its an actual tv or the set top box) will be at the center of the entertainment system... and everything will be controlled from there... ie it will have a port(s) that work like the ipod/iphone 30 pin port so that it can hook up to 3rd party hardware (thunderbolt?)... enabling stuff like being able to control an external set of speakers without having to configure anything... just plug in the speakers and go... it will know you have speakers because they are plugged in and send the volume adjustments to the external receiver... granted, this method will require 3rd parties to support the apple protocol obviously...

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Siri, turn the volume down.

huh?

Siri, turn the volume down!

huh?

Which is why every Apple TV set will come with a combined remote and megaphone.

I know most people think the idea of an Apple TV which includes a screen is silly because the television market is cut throat and there would be little margin in it - an expensive Apple TV would likely struggle to gain much traction. But personally I think an Apple television set could make sense if it is part of a much larger (and amazing) package. 'The new Apple way of doing TV'. This would necessarily involve new content deals and integration with iCloud. The reason an Apple Television set would make sense is that nothing would better announce Apple entry into the living room. It would raise awareness and make a real statement. The media coverage it will get is HUGE.

But by itself or as a replacement of the present Apple TV it is nothing. IMO.
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Apple better not be thinking that they can sell a 55" 1080p LED TV that normally goes for 2k (give or take) for $3000. They need to make it the same price or lower.
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Just think of all the game apps that could be on the TV plus may add new dimensions to gaming.

I can't believe that Apple is just going to build a std. TV. There has to be something special about it. Something you're not seeing or doing today.
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Talk about limp.

Well, at least now I've learned how to operate the 'ignore' function.
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