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Apple's third-generation iPad will be slightly thicker than the iPad 2, but will have the same 9.7-inch screen size, and will continue to support the magnetic Smart Cover, according to a new report.

Citing an Asian supplier who is allegedly crafting components for Apple's next iPad, Japanese blog Macotakara reported on Wednesday that the next iPad may be thicker for an "unknown reason." That means third-party cases that cover the back side of the device will not be compatible with the next iPad.

However, Apple's first-party magnetic Smart Covers will remain compatible with the third-generation iPad, the source reportedly said. That's because the new iPad, despite being slightly thicker, will have the same rounded side as the iPad 2.

In addition, two back covers (1, 2) claimed to be from prototype iPad hardware are available for sale on the global commerce site Alibaba.com. The plain aluminum backs do not show an Apple logo.

One reason for a thicker frame on the third-generation iPad could be the components necessary to include a high-resolution Retina Display. Numerous rumors have pointed toward Apple increasing the screen resolution of its iPad with a new model anticipated in 2012.

Apple introduced the Retina Display branding with the iPhone 4 starting in 2010. By packing more pixels onto the same screen size, Apple has boasted that the individual pixels are so small that they cannot be distinguished by the human eye.



In order to include a Retina Display, Apple may adopt entirely new display technology. One report in November suggested Apple would use IGZO displays from Sharp to reach a 330 dots-per-inch screen resolution. But that report claimed the IGZO display would also allow for a future iPad to be thinner, not thicker.

Other reports, however, claimed that Apple would utilize a dual-LED light bar system to illuminate the Retina Display of a third-generation iPad. Apple's apparent difficulties with the higher resolution displays and new LED backlight designs were said to have already affected the launch schedule of the next iPad.

Some of the confusion surrounding the next iPad coming from Apple's supply chain could be explained by a report from early November, which alleged that Apple has tasked its suppliers with the development of two tablet projects, code-named "J1" and "J2." Both of the new models were said to have different sizes, specifications and technologies from the current-generation iPad 2.
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Oh, yeah. I believe that that is definitely a case for the new iPad.

I mean, look at all the leaked cases for the 5th gen iPhone that turned out to be OH, RIGHT.

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we've heard this before. Anything else?
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Remember the post here about Air Bag being built in to the iPad? That picture makes it look puffy like an airbag. LOL.
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No thinner, no wait thicker, no wait...

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No thinner, no wait thicker, no wait...

What are we waiting for?
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No thinner, no wait thicker, no wait...

Yeah, these rumors are brought to you by the same people who claimed the iPhone 4S would be called iPhone 5, have a bigger screen and an aluminium back. Take it with a block of salt.

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There should be some kind of penalty for gossipy people and analysts who like to start rumors about Apple that turn out to be false.

I think that some of the analysts are guilty of fraud and stock manipulation. Shouldn't some of them be in jail?

What some of them are doing is basically libel.
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That thing looks pregnant.

And we heard the rumor before it will be slightly thicker to accommodate a second LED bar - needed because a higher res screen needs more light.
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Rumor.
Citing unnamed sources with limited but direct knowledge of the rumoured device - Comedy Insider (Feb 2014)
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Hands up anyone who really thinks that Apple would ever release such a Blimp?
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In order to include a Retina Display, Apple may adopt entirely new display technology. One report in November suggested Apple would use IGZO displays from Sharp to reach a 330 dots-per-inch screen resolution. But that report claimed the IGZO display would also allow for a future iPad to be thinner, not thicker.

330 is what the iPhone has. 960x640 for a 3.5" display equals 329.65 ppi. Doubling the resolution for the iPad to 2048x1536 would give it a 263.92 or 264 ppi. That's well within being Retina Display for the average distance you hold a tablet from you for someone with 20/15 or worse vision.

For the iPad to be 330 ppi the display would have to be 2560x1925 which would mean pushing 4,928,000 pixels. Compare to the iPhone 4/4S pushing only 614,400 pixels, the current iPad pushing 786,432, and Apple's 27" display only are 2560x1440 for 3,686,400 pixels . Even the iPad 3 with 2048x1536 resolution pushing 3,145,728 will be an amazing feat for a tablet with good battery life and performance.

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There should be some kind of penalty for gossipy people and analysts who like to start rumors about Apple that turn out to be false.

I think that some of the analysts are guilty of fraud and stock manipulation. Shouldn't some of them be in jail?

What some of them are doing is basically libel.

I figure that apple gets companies to produce fake designs so it can out untrustworthy ones and pull business from them.
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Fake.

iPad 2's back is flat so it can be placed on a desktop without wobble. If anything, the back of iPad 3 has to be flat.
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thicker? thats just stupid. no way apple is going to do that. thinner is more likely.
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thicker? thats just stupid. no way apple is going to do that. thinner is more likely.

I'm not so sure.

It also has a likelihood of being heavier with those display components, a larger battery and/or beefier components for processing.

iPhone = 135 g
iPhone 3G = 133 g
iPhone 3GS = 135 g
iPhone 4 = 137 g
iPhone 4S = 140 g

I also wouldn't be surprised if this was a higher-end option, not the only display being used, and not at the $499 level. This tech is just too new for this display size to think it'll be a cake walk when Apple already has supply and quality issues with their other 1024x768 displays.

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I'm not so sure.

It would be hilarious if it were slightly thicker.

The same exact people who have been whining nonstop about a retina display, would be the same exact people that would whine about it being ever so slightly thicker, even if it gets released and it has a retina display.
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It would be hilarious if it were slightly thicker.

The same exact people who have been whining nonstop about a retina display, would be the same exact people that would whine about it being ever so slightly thicker, even if it gets released and it has a retina display.

In any case, I think the display and backlight components will be thicker than n the current iPad's display and components. Whether that translates into the entire product being thicker depends on other factors, like how much bigger they are willing to make the battery to maintain the same usage levels. That assumes Apple doesn't have some special GPU that can allow for 4x the pixels being pushed without any additional power use than the current iPad or some new battery technology. I'm betting on a larger battery.

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[QUOTE=8CoreWhore;2003194]That thing looks pregnant.


It's an optical allusion. Your are looking at the inside of it, not the actual back. Thats why theres no logo. Not that I'm convinced in the slightest.
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Fake.

iPad 2's back is flat so it can be placed on a desktop without wobble. If anything, the back of iPad 3 has to be flat.

Maybe they are making these so that Samsung copies them and makes their tablets with thick profiles. Then they make the real ones somewhere else thinner than ever.

It's either this or they plan to use a very low voltage Ivy Bridge chip instead of ARM and need to fit a fan in there somewhere.
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Perhaps Apple will have two models, iPad 3 and the iPad 3 Pro with Retina Display.
Drop the price from iPad 2 by $50 for each model of the iPad 3.
Increase the price from iPad 2 by $50 for each model of the iPad 3 Pro.
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Perhaps Apple will have two models, iPad 3 and the iPad 3 Pro with Retina Display.

This was said prior to the iPhone 4's introduction, too. You can see why it seems a bit odd.

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Drop the price from iPad 2 by $50 for each model of the iPad 3.

Fifty? I'm thinking 16GB iPad 2 at $399 with the rest filling in the appropriate places.

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So, if this is somehow Truth, then Apple will have thinned the iPad 1 down to the iPad 2 thickness so they could have some sort of brainstorm and decide to thicken it up again?

What part of this reasoning sounds distinctly non-Apple and complete BS to you?

Was it that they wanted every non-Apple back protector to be instantly obsolete? Is their new 1080p camera just too darned deep, so they're adding millimeters? Are the world's iPad users just fed up with that damn flat back?

During the run up to the iPhone 4S, the oh, so reliable rumor mill didn't even have the number in its name right, and all the photos, covers, and specs released provided the tech sites with a perfect storm of wrong, wrong, wrong.

Anybody who takes this rumor as gospel deserves to be fooled twice.
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Fifty? I'm thinking 16GB iPad 2 at $399 with the rest filling in the appropriate places.

You mean the iPad 2 price like the iPad 1 is priced in the refurbished section after the iPad 3 arrives?

I think if Apple does a $399 tablet (which is what Asus and others have accomplished with 16GB NAND) it won't be a refurb, but an iPad 3 with the A6 but now Retina Display.

Perhaps something like this:
iPad 3 WiFi
— 16GB = $399
— 32GB = $499
— 64GB = $599

iPad 3 3G+WiFi
— 16GB = $529
— 32GB = $629
— 64GB = $729

iPad 3 HD WiFi
— 32GB = $599
— 64GB = $699

iPad 3 HD 3G+WiFi
— 32GB = $729
— 64GB = $829 All 3G iPads are world mode to help reduce SKUs from 18 to 11. However, I'm not sure how well that will work in practice as I think the iPhone 4S is still boxed up per US carrier in stores.

Then there is always the consideration of no dropping below $499 as the base price but doubling the NAND across the board which would look like this:
iPad 3 WiFi
— 32GB = $499
— 64GB = $599
— 128GB = $699

iPad 3 3G+WiFi
— 32GB = $629
— 64GB = $729
— 128GB = $829


iPad 3 HD WiFi
— 64GB = $699
— 128GB = $799

iPad 3 HD 3G+WiFi
— 64GB = $829
— 128GB = $929 That said, if they can double the NAND that would allow for a new entry level 16GB iPad 3 WiFi for $399 that would open up the bottom of the market pyramid while still making a great profit.

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post #26 of 50
Thicker? Possibly.

Butt ugly? Not a fucking chance.

What the hell is that thing?!
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So, if this is somehow Truth, then Apple will have thinned the iPad 1 down to the iPad 2 thickness so they could have some sort of brainstorm and decide to thicken it up again?

What part of this reasoning sounds distinctly non-Apple and complete BS to you?

Was it that they wanted every non-Apple back protector to be instantly obsolete? Is their new 1080p camera just too darned deep, so they're adding millimeters? Are the world's iPad users just fed up with that damn flat back?

During the run up to the iPhone 4S, the oh, so reliable rumor mill didn't even have the number in its name right, and all the photos, covers, and specs released provided the tech sites with a perfect storm of wrong, wrong, wrong.

Anybody who takes this rumor as gospel deserves to be fooled twice.

You'd think they would have planned ahead for a contingency that would require them to use a thicker display and backlight for their next release but may not. Perhaps the HiDPI tech was still far from certain when the iPad 2 was finalized.

Note that the iPhone 3G and 3GS are technically THICKER than the original iPhone. Overall their volume is likely slightly less and they do feel thinner do to having thinner edges, but they are technically thicker at its thickest point.

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No thinner, no wait thicker, no wait...

Well, obviously it will be thincker...
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I'd rather have a thinner and lighter iPad 3 with the quad core A6 and no high res screen. I don't have a problem with the display. What matters to me is making it as thin and light as possible at this stage with more power under the hood.
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I'd rather have a thinner and lighter iPad 3 with the quad core A6 and no high res screen. I don't have a problem with the display. What I care about is them making it as thin and light as possible at this stage with more power under the hood.

I don't think the dual-core Cortex-A15 will be ready for the next iPad, but what about the next iPhone? Would quad-core Cortex-A9 or dual-Core Cortex-15 be best for these these types of CE?

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Well, obviously it will be thincker...

thincker differenter?
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Fifty? I'm thinking 16GB iPad 2 at $399 with the rest filling in the appropriate places.

TJMaxx reportedly had them at $399 this past weekend. I didn't verify it myself in-store, but it was written up at 9to5.
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The ip4s is thicker than the ip4, no?
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The ip4s is thicker than the ip4, no?

No, it's identical.

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I don't think apple has ever made anything "thicker!"
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I don't think apple has ever made anything "thicker!"

iPhone 3G.

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That thing looks pregnant.

Or it looks safe.
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And we heard the rumor before it will be slightly thicker to accommodate a second LED bar - needed because a higher res screen needs more light.

I hate to say this but iPad could use a manual brightness control just like the volume control.
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I hate to say this but iPad could use a manual brightness control just like the volume control.

I'm not keen on the idea of physical buttons on the iPad for adjusting brightness. I think the Home Button double-tap swipe to the right to get to the brightness controls is a pretty decent solution.

Ideally I'd like to see a solution that can be worked without knowing what's on the display, like when you have it turned all the way down before a movie starts and then attempt to use it in direct sunlight right after the movie. What I'm thinking is a circular motion on the Lock and Home Screens. After the first rotation clockwise it starts to brighten, counterclockwise to dim, and can be sped up if your acceleration increases.

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Apple has never purposely taken a step back in development and I don't believe their DNA will allow it. It they do then you know the Jobs era has truly ended. Jobs was not about compromise on quality, design, or aesthetics.
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No, it's identical.

Oh yeah, it's the white ip4 which is .2 mm thicker than the black one. The point being that it might be thicker but the difference may be irrelevant. Weight is more important IMO.
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