Parents complain Amazon's Kindle Fire gives kids access to porn, accounts - Page 4

Took you off ignore to see what brilliant response you would have to my post.

About what I expected. Pretending that people quote you because they find what you say "interesting". . Not the fact 80% of the responses to you are basically calling you an idiot.

Back to ignore.


But for your viewing pleasure, here are the responses to your posts all bragging about how interesting and relevant you are.

How's about we cut out the stuff about trolls/not trolls//fanboys/not fanboys and get back to the thread?

It's about porn, even. Society tells us that's more of a draw than fanboyism.

Not with Apple Fanboys. Apple believes they have a moral responsibility to keep porn off the iPhone. Folks who want porn can buy an Android phone.

Theres a porn store for Android. You can download nothing but porn. You can download porn, your kids can download porn. Thats a place Apple doesn't want to go so theyre not going to go there.

Apple is a bigger draw for Apple fanboys than porn, so you are wrong.

1) You get labeled a troll because it's impossible someone could believe all the false hypocritical things you write.

2) Apple does allow porn on the iPhone. Just open up Safari and search for porn.

3) Apple doesn't actively support porn in their STORE because it would be bad for business.

KindlePorn... That's what you get when you Fork Android

Iron?

You might want to get that checked out...

People have done worse things to ipads.

Wow!!!

In related news, sales of the Kindle Fire rose 500%

Why is there always one person who has to complain about every single flaw in electronics. I mean go get a life.

Until that child is touching your daughter or son or niece or nephew in their private areas, or doing something inappropriate because they saw it on a Fire. Everything affects everyone in some small or big way.

This isn't "one person". And these people are living their "lives" by protecting their children. You shouldn't be so flippant about others when you don't personally understand what they're doing. You'll wind up like you are now: chastising people for doing the right thing.

+1

Not to be too moral here, as I consider myself to be a little overly shovanistic (I.e. mad men like) on occasion, but the psychological detriments of watching porn are huge as it relates to relationships. There are several studies in particular that talk about how it makes your real relationships less meaningful and affects your viewpoint Of how your spouse or significant other (or future significant other) should act, look like, etc.
Yes, I know that is how they all should act - But in all seriousness, as tempting and great porn is, it really has very little upside psychologically and how it affects your relationships. So it is extremely understandable how people wouldn't want this for anyone to see- particularly their kids.

you can find porn, violence and hatred just as easily on an ipad or iphone, with higher display quality too, so not sure why you only mention the fire

but don't bother responding to apple][, he's just a troll, in case you hadn't noticed he's posted both these statements in this thread...



on the plus side, he's also said that he has no children, think of it as evolution in action

There's nothing contradictory about those two statements. I am the one who recognizes that porn is bad for children. I also recognize that there are many bad parents and ignorant parents around, and unless they happen to be my neighbors, then I don't really care about their kids. Their kids will also most likely grow up to be terrible parents and the cycle repeats itself.

As far as evolution goes, I represent the pinnacle of human evolution and I most definitely intend to pass my DNA on eventually, as it would be a great tragedy for all humankind if that were somehow to be lost.

My reaction to this thread remaining COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC:



"Oh, so does that mean you're okay with it?"

No, I'd prefer everyone stop chucking veiled insults at one another or making nonsensical claims and either get back on topic or let it die if there's nothing left to discuss.

"Ah, but there's always something to discuss when it's a competitor."

I've noticed that…

But in all seriousness, as tempting and as great as empty-calorie junk food is, it really has very little upside physically and how it affects your relationships to be a fat slob. So it is extremely understandable how people wouldn't want this for anyone to eat - particularly their kids.

but it tastes so good....

That made me smile.

Actually, from actual tech writers, the Fire had mediocre reviews. Rightfully so. It is very sluggish, and it's functionality very basic. I know as a family member had one for a week. She sent it back. Had I not already had an iPad that she occasionally used, she might have kept it. She was frustrated by the lack of abilities in comparison to the iPad.

Moreover, Apple was taken to task for the way it used to handle in store purchases. Namely, after somebody typed a password into the iTunes Store, the iOS device originally didn't disable the password. This meant your brats could go in later and buy anything and everything they wanted without a password. Apple was actually sued. Apple addressed the matter.

So, Amazon is doing the same thing. The difference with Amazon, is you can buy some really expensive things very quickly. The criticism is pretty legitimate.

If you remove your saved cards from your amazon account, nobody will be able to make any purchases and the Kindle should still work. I guess someone made this suggestion earlier in the thread, but I can't be bothered to read through it.

Sure...sure. But lets not lose site of the fact that a $199 e-reader/tablet pales in comparison to a $499+ iPad.

Wow - we go from Steve being completely off base and a "prude" for his comments on porn in the app store to this story.

Shocking

And in an update to related news, many are being returned : )

NY Times.com 2011/12/12/ article on problems with Kindle Fire

It does look like they rushed the device to market, though they did choose a good time to release the device. A few years ago releasing a product with a low grade user experience would have been okay, but Apple has set the bar and even though no one rational expects the Fire to work like the iPad they do expect a minimum user experience that has been set by not just the iPad, but also by the iPhone and iPod Touch, and to a less degree the other iPods.

There is an update to the Fire slated for 2 weeks. For their sake I hope this resolves much of the UX issues.

That's exactly what i saying was going to happen to the Kindle Fire weeks ago.

First of all, the media was very irresponsible in hyping that product as an iPad alternative, and people were suckers for believing in the hype. Many people ordered it on pure blind faith alone.

I seriously doubt this update (the one in claimed coming in two weeks) is going to tackle any performance issues in any real way. It'll just be some band-aids. It will likely just be addressing some of these complaints named in the article (such as the history issue mentioned, and some interface improvements) but I can't imagine the fudginess of the touchscreen (and overall experience) can be lessened enough with a software update to make an unhappy user satisfied.

I haven't had the chance to try one, but browsing on the Nook Tablet sure isn't any fun. I don't think either will be a passable experience for web browsing until the next hardware versions, if then.

NYT Article - 'As Kindle Fire Faces Critics, Remedies Are Promised'

Kindle Fire = Second Rate, rushed to market product...

lol I read that sooo wrong...

"It's completely inexcusable on any platform that something like that would be allowed, and, on a personal note, I've always hated the idea of 'in-app purchases'."

The thing most parents don't realize is that on iOS devices EVEN with Safari disabled (as well as 'Installing Apps" disabled so they can't just download some other wide open browser) there are many, many apps (seemingly content-neutral ones like the Weather Channel app, for pete's sake) with built-in browsers where kids can instantly go anywhere and see anything on the web with NO filtering and No record at all of that taking place.

So to keep their kids from pornography (or other adult content like violence, adult language, etc.) these parents eventually figure out that they can't purchase ANY apps with built-in browsers and that they have to delete EVERY single app they already have if it has a built-in browser anywhere in it. It doesn't make sense that Apple allows all these in-app browsers when:

1) Apps with built-in browsers completely ignore and neutralize Apple's browser Parental Controls or 'Restrictions' settings.
2) This problem inevitably decreases app sales revenue, in-app purchases, and even advertising revenue because if these apps didn't create a potential problem for their kids, so many adult parents would definitely prefer to purchase, keep and use those apps for themselves rather than having to delete them from all the iOS devices their kids might play on at some point.
3) There are already a number of apps where, if Safari has been disabled in Apple's 'Restrictions' setting, when you click on an ad or on any live 'hyperlink' anywhere in the app it just doesn't do anything (except offer to 'copy' the hyperlink address into memory so that you can go paste into an email or text message).

Apple should just make #3 the app design standard/requirement and then their 'Parental Controls' or 'Restrictions' would actually be more than a paper thin protection, especially since kids will always be more technologically savvy than most parents, however involved and intentional those parents are determined to be! \

Parents should spend more time educating and parenting their children then blaming others for their own lack of vigilance.

While Amazon might consider it an opportunity to put parental controls in future versions of the Kindle Fire, it's not their fault these parents have failed to properly raise their children.

Individuals need to take responsibility for their own actions, and quit blaming others...