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Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz View Post

what's ironic is that the Android market allows you to password protect purchases. lol.

Good job Amazon.../s

KindlePorn... That's what you get when you Fork Android
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post #122 of 147
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Originally Posted by MoXoM View Post

I'm certain Caryn Talty wasn't searching for a "cute PG cartoon" when she was typing in 'The Iron Giant'...

Iron?

You might want to get that checked out...
post #123 of 147
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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

Nothing, if you need an Android-powered cutting board.



People have done worse things to ipads.




No matter what type of media...movies, music, books, photos and web pages

look better and sound better on the Kindle Fire HD and HDX than any iPad

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No matter what type of media...movies, music, books, photos and web pages

look better and sound better on the Kindle Fire HD and HDX than any iPad

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post #124 of 147
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Originally Posted by Russell View Post

People have done worse things to ipads.






Wow!!!
post #125 of 147
In related news, sales of the Kindle Fire rose 500%
post #126 of 147
Why is there always one person who has to complain about every single flaw in electronics. I mean go get a life.
post #127 of 147
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Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

Either way, I don't care about those people's kids. So let them watch porn.

Until that child is touching your daughter or son or niece or nephew in their private areas, or doing something inappropriate because they saw it on a Fire. Everything affects everyone in some small or big way.
post #128 of 147
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Originally Posted by kyle172 View Post

Why is there always one person who has to complain about every single flaw in electronics. I mean go get a life.

This isn't "one person". And these people are living their "lives" by protecting their children. You shouldn't be so flippant about others when you don't personally understand what they're doing. You'll wind up like you are now: chastising people for doing the right thing.

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post #129 of 147
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Originally Posted by mesomorphicman View Post

Until that child is touching your daughter or son or niece or nephew in their private areas, or doing something inappropriate because they saw it on a Fire. Everything affects everyone in some small or big way.

+1

Not to be too moral here, as I consider myself to be a little overly shovanistic (I.e. mad men like) on occasion, but the psychological detriments of watching porn are huge as it relates to relationships. There are several studies in particular that talk about how it makes your real relationships less meaningful and affects your viewpoint Of how your spouse or significant other (or future significant other) should act, look like, etc.
Yes, I know that is how they all should act - But in all seriousness, as tempting and great porn is, it really has very little upside psychologically and how it affects your relationships. So it is extremely understandable how people wouldn't want this for anyone to see- particularly their kids.

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post #130 of 147
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Originally Posted by mesomorphicman View Post

Until that child is touching your daughter or son or niece or nephew in their private areas, or doing something inappropriate because they saw it on a Fire. Everything affects everyone in some small or big way.

you can find porn, violence and hatred just as easily on an ipad or iphone, with higher display quality too, so not sure why you only mention the fire

but don't bother responding to apple][, he's just a troll, in case you hadn't noticed he's posted both these statements in this thread...

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Originally Posted by Apple ][

Either way, I don't care about those people's kids. So let them watch porn.

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Originally Posted by Apple ][

There's nothing wrong with porn, but if you think that having a seven year old kid watch porn is ok, then I feel sorry for your children.

on the plus side, he's also said that he has no children, think of it as evolution in action
post #131 of 147
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Originally Posted by umumum View Post


but don't bother responding to apple][, he's just a troll, in case you hadn't noticed he's posted both these statements in this thread...

on the plus side, he's also said that he has no children, think of it as evolution in action

There's nothing contradictory about those two statements. I am the one who recognizes that porn is bad for children. I also recognize that there are many bad parents and ignorant parents around, and unless they happen to be my neighbors, then I don't really care about their kids. Their kids will also most likely grow up to be terrible parents and the cycle repeats itself.

As far as evolution goes, I represent the pinnacle of human evolution and I most definitely intend to pass my DNA on eventually, as it would be a great tragedy for all humankind if that were somehow to be lost.
post #132 of 147
My reaction to this thread remaining COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC:



"Oh, so does that mean you're okay with it?"

No, I'd prefer everyone stop chucking veiled insults at one another or making nonsensical claims and either get back on topic or let it die if there's nothing left to discuss.

"Ah, but there's always something to discuss when it's a competitor."

I've noticed that…

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post #133 of 147
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Originally Posted by Andysol View Post

But in all seriousness, as tempting and great porn is, it really has very little upside psychologically and how it affects your relationships. So it is extremely understandable how people wouldn't want this for anyone to see- particularly their kids.

But in all seriousness, as tempting and as great as empty-calorie junk food is, it really has very little upside physically and how it affects your relationships to be a fat slob. So it is extremely understandable how people wouldn't want this for anyone to eat - particularly their kids.

post #134 of 147
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Originally Posted by ConradJoe View Post

But in all seriousness, as tempting and as great as empty-calorie junk food is, it really has very little upside physically and how it affects your relationships to be a fat slob. So it is extremely understandable how people wouldn't want this for anyone to eat - particularly their kids.


but it tastes so good....

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post #135 of 147
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Originally Posted by Andysol View Post

but it tastes so good....

That made me smile.


post #136 of 147
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Originally Posted by Euphonious View Post

I agree. Either report in a balanced way about competitors' products or don't report about them at all.

It is reporting like this which gives the Apple fan community a bad name. The Kindle Fire has generally been well-received; it is disingenuous to focus solely on relatively minor negative aspects such as this. What is the purpose of this site; to inform, or to whip the fanboy crowd into a frenzy?


Actually, from actual tech writers, the Fire had mediocre reviews. Rightfully so. It is very sluggish, and it's functionality very basic. I know as a family member had one for a week. She sent it back. Had I not already had an iPad that she occasionally used, she might have kept it. She was frustrated by the lack of abilities in comparison to the iPad.

Moreover, Apple was taken to task for the way it used to handle in store purchases. Namely, after somebody typed a password into the iTunes Store, the iOS device originally didn't disable the password. This meant your brats could go in later and buy anything and everything they wanted without a password. Apple was actually sued. Apple addressed the matter.

So, Amazon is doing the same thing. The difference with Amazon, is you can buy some really expensive things very quickly. The criticism is pretty legitimate.
post #137 of 147
If you remove your saved cards from your amazon account, nobody will be able to make any purchases and the Kindle should still work. I guess someone made this suggestion earlier in the thread, but I can't be bothered to read through it.
post #138 of 147
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Originally Posted by DrDoppio View Post

If you remove your saved cards from your amazon account, nobody will be able to make any purchases and the Kindle should still work. I guess someone made this suggestion earlier in the thread, but I can't be bothered to read through it.

Sure...sure. But lets not lose site of the fact that a $199 e-reader/tablet pales in comparison to a $499+ iPad.
post #139 of 147
Wow - we go from Steve being completely off base and a "prude" for his comments on porn in the app store to this story.

Shocking
post #140 of 147
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Originally Posted by strobe View Post

In related news, sales of the Kindle Fire rose 500%

And in an update to related news, many are being returned : )

NY Times.com 2011/12/12/ article on problems with Kindle Fire
post #141 of 147
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Originally Posted by jlandd View Post

And in an update to related news, many are being returned : )

NY Times.com 2011/12/12/ article on problems with Kindle Fire

It does look like they rushed the device to market, though they did choose a good time to release the device. A few years ago releasing a product with a low grade user experience would have been okay, but Apple has set the bar and even though no one rational expects the Fire to work like the iPad they do expect a minimum user experience that has been set by not just the iPad, but also by the iPhone and iPod Touch, and to a less degree the other iPods.

There is an update to the Fire slated for 2 weeks. For their sake I hope this resolves much of the UX issues.

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post #142 of 147
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And in an update to related news, many are being returned : )

NY Times.com 2011/12/12/ article on problems with Kindle Fire

That's exactly what i saying was going to happen to the Kindle Fire weeks ago.

First of all, the media was very irresponsible in hyping that product as an iPad alternative, and people were suckers for believing in the hype. Many people ordered it on pure blind faith alone.
post #143 of 147
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

There is an update to the Fire slated for 2 weeks. For their sake I hope this resolves much of the UX issues.


I seriously doubt this update (the one in claimed coming in two weeks) is going to tackle any performance issues in any real way. It'll just be some band-aids. It will likely just be addressing some of these complaints named in the article (such as the history issue mentioned, and some interface improvements) but I can't imagine the fudginess of the touchscreen (and overall experience) can be lessened enough with a software update to make an unhappy user satisfied.

I haven't had the chance to try one, but browsing on the Nook Tablet sure isn't any fun. I don't think either will be a passable experience for web browsing until the next hardware versions, if then.
post #144 of 147
NYT Article - 'As Kindle Fire Faces Critics, Remedies Are Promised'

Kindle Fire = Second Rate, rushed to market product...
post #145 of 147
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post

KindlePorn... That's what you get when you Fork Android

lol I read that sooo wrong...
post #146 of 147
"It's completely inexcusable on any platform that something like that would be allowed, and, on a personal note, I've always hated the idea of 'in-app purchases'."

The thing most parents don't realize is that on iOS devices EVEN with Safari disabled (as well as 'Installing Apps" disabled so they can't just download some other wide open browser) there are many, many apps (seemingly content-neutral ones like the Weather Channel app, for pete's sake) with built-in browsers where kids can instantly go anywhere and see anything on the web with NO filtering and No record at all of that taking place.

So to keep their kids from pornography (or other adult content like violence, adult language, etc.) these parents eventually figure out that they can't purchase ANY apps with built-in browsers and that they have to delete EVERY single app they already have if it has a built-in browser anywhere in it. It doesn't make sense that Apple allows all these in-app browsers when:

1) Apps with built-in browsers completely ignore and neutralize Apple's browser Parental Controls or 'Restrictions' settings.
2) This problem inevitably decreases app sales revenue, in-app purchases, and even advertising revenue because if these apps didn't create a potential problem for their kids, so many adult parents would definitely prefer to purchase, keep and use those apps for themselves rather than having to delete them from all the iOS devices their kids might play on at some point.
3) There are already a number of apps where, if Safari has been disabled in Apple's 'Restrictions' setting, when you click on an ad or on any live 'hyperlink' anywhere in the app it just doesn't do anything (except offer to 'copy' the hyperlink address into memory so that you can go paste into an email or text message).

Apple should just make #3 the app design standard/requirement and then their 'Parental Controls' or 'Restrictions' would actually be more than a paper thin protection, especially since kids will always be more technologically savvy than most parents, however involved and intentional those parents are determined to be! \
post #147 of 147
Parents should spend more time educating and parenting their children then blaming others for their own lack of vigilance.

While Amazon might consider it an opportunity to put parental controls in future versions of the Kindle Fire, it's not their fault these parents have failed to properly raise their children.

Individuals need to take responsibility for their own actions, and quit blaming others...
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