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You're correct, the sample size is only 2, so anything is possible, but if it is only a minor speed bump or an "iPad 2S", then I'm probably going to have to stay away from forums for a while when it comes out as the whining and moaning will just be incredible, unlike anything seen before.

A MAJOR speed bump. Plus SIRI. Maybe some Maps stuff too.

Just like the iPhone 5, err..... the iPhone 4S.

post #42 of 47
How is this news? Isn't this the same time of year Apple releases their iPads anyway? Duh?

They've done it the past 2 times so how is it a surprise that they're doing it a 3rd time? Duh?
post #43 of 47
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I have my doubts on the 'retina' display. Don't get me wrong, I would be elated to see such a display on a tablet, but the fact that its pushing significantly more pixels than a 1080p display, plus the fact that the majority of laptops can't even source decent 720p panels leaves me somewhat doubtful. To put it in perspective, its is as many pixels as the apple 30" cinema display in a 10" handheld device. That's just mindblowing to me.

eitherway, with or without a retina display, I'll be interest to see what apple does with the ipad3 and a6. Google and asus have thrown down the gauntlet with ICS and the transformer prime respectively; lets see how apple responds.

I also don't believe the retina display rumors. Apple is going to release a new iPad in 2012, but whether retina display makes the cut or not depends on supply and the costs of production. So far, we've heard that yields are low. This is not a good sign for going into mass production for 2012. I would not count on it. Looks like there will be "disappointed" fans driven to new heights of unrealistic expectations thanks to these supply chain rumors.

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post #44 of 47
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I also don't believe the retina display rumors. Apple is going to release a new iPad in 2012, but whether retina display makes the cut or not depends on supply and the costs of production. So far, we've heard that yields are low. This is not a good sign for going into mass production for 2012. I would not count on it. Looks like there will be "disappointed" fans driven to new heights of unrealistic expectations thanks to these supply chain rumors.

Based on the various anecdotal "evidence" (read: rumours) that is mirroring what I recall of the iPhone 4 getting Retina Display I think this rumour is sounding plausible. I am not holding my breath and have clearly expressed on numerous occasions the multiple reasons why pushing 3.2 million pixels from a handheld device would be an issue, but perhaps Apple has figured out how to deal with it. We've also seen Samsung readying a display with an even higher pixel count, a 16:10 2560x1600 display.

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I also don't believe the retina display rumors. Apple is going to release a new iPad in 2012, but whether retina display makes the cut or not depends on supply and the costs of production. So far, we've heard that yields are low. This is not a good sign for going into mass production for 2012. I would not count on it. Looks like there will be "disappointed" fans driven to new heights of unrealistic expectations thanks to these supply chain rumors.


I wouldn't count on it either. The Android tablets will have them, but at the price of profit margin.
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Anand predicts a 32nm A9-based design for A6, and I'm inclined to believe him.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4971/a...-att-verizon/7

As to A15 I'm kinda doubting we will ever see it in an iPad. A9 would be the smarter move until a 64 bit solution can be had.
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No, I'm saying "up to 7x faster" without specifics is meaningless.

Benchmarks can be used to lead he gullible around by the nose. Much like Apple did in the G5 days. They posted all sorts of Alt-Vec benchmarks while ignoring the terrible integer performance of the G5.
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Short answer is no. Irregardless of what you display, at the end of the day, you still have to calculate color values for all of the additional pixels.

Most of the time yes you do. It will be interesting to see how Apple approaches this. However if they can get to a sub 32nm node they might be able to actually increase performance while lowering power.

In the end though all of those pixels will require a new architecture. I would be surprised to find out that they will go with one iPod the video memory technologies used on the latest video cards for main memory. Bandwidth will be a problem. They could also address rather bandwidth issue by putting a frame buffer right on the SoC. A simple run of the mill SoC implementation won't cut it.
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Oh, I'm not saying it doesn't blow the iPad1 out of the water. I just meant that the term "up to 7x faster" is not enough information to draw any useful conclusions from.

CPU wise A5 isn't that much faster. Having two Cores does make a difference as does Apples attention to developer tools to support access to that computational power. In the end though Apple focused on the GPU which is frankly refreshing for Apple.
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