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post #41 of 135
12/15/11 at 8:36am
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Originally Posted by Neo42 View Post

In one case we have a serial killer cannibal. In the other we have one company just trying to do business and exploiting the attacks of its competitor. Your analogy is totally appropriate, classy and accurate.

In one case we have a serial numbered so-called iPad killers trying to cannibalize its own sales by releasing multiple 10.1 Tabs. (see what I did there?)

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post #42 of 135
12/15/11 at 8:44am
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post

On the Samsung Aussie ad, MacRumors comment is probably pretty accurate IMHO on what Samsung is trying to portray with it, saying "Samsung is seeking to tie its advertising to the lawsuit and portray the tablet device as so significant a threat that Apple felt the need to prevent it from going on sale."

For some reason, when I hear this tag line, the image of a little child (samesung) thumbing his/her nose at a kid saying, "na, na, you can't stop me" comes to mind.

I would love to see Samesung just try a more mature marketing strategy whereby they emphasize features and benefits of their their products as opposed to:

1) making fun of Apple customers who are enthusiastic enough to wait in line (hell, I waited in line in the numerous times see the latest blockbuster movies, what's your point?)

2) using a lawsuit that Apple threw at them because they felt their IP was being infringed on?

That's all you got Sammy? They must not have too much faith in their products if they can't even tell us what they can do for us and why we should buy them.

Fuck Sammy.
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post #43 of 135
12/15/11 at 8:45am
If the GT is such a great product why are there so many companies giving them away as an incentive to buy another product?

I guess it looks better than having to sell them at $199 in a fire sale.
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post #44 of 135
12/15/11 at 8:46am
Samesung was the number 2 tablet vendor last quarter. They sold a whopping 1 million unit WORLDWIDE. HP was 3rd selling 900,000. This quarter Samesung will drop 2 spots to lose out to the Fire and Prime. Don't think Apple is to worried about Samesung.
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post #45 of 135
12/15/11 at 8:48am
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Originally Posted by island hermit View Post

Really?! You're going with that?

You're telling me that Apple couldn't produce a 4" phone that is elegant and without a bulky feeling?

Really?

Exactly, I'm not upgrading till I see if Apple is going to bring a bigger screen, the current screen is way too small. Android phones with larger screens are not bigger, Apple just has way too much of a black border.

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post #46 of 135
12/15/11 at 8:54am
'The Tablet Apple Tried to Stop' = good marketing imo. They should have kept it to that. Whether the perception is that Apple tried to stop it because it was a blatant rip-off, or as is implied - 'Its so good Apple got scared and tried to stop you from getting your hands on one... ' Samsung stands to gain. They should have made the Ad look like an Apple ad, however. You know, tasteful.
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post #47 of 135
12/15/11 at 8:56am
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Originally Posted by timgriff84 View Post

I've looked at one of these in a shop and I still don't get where the argument that they copied the iPad comes from. Even when there turned off they look completely different, but whenever you see them there turned on and then they look nothing like each other.

Sadly for Samsung though when there turned on the Android UI just looks awful.

I saw the iPad2 and Galaxy Tab 10.1 both standing portrait next to each other in a shop. I own an iPad2 and even I had to double take the two tabs when I walked passed them. The last person who used the Galaxy Tab left it on the icon grid and when I turned both screens on it just made me laugh.

They are not identical, but from the front the Galaxy Tab is just a slightly taller iPad.

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post #48 of 135
12/15/11 at 8:56am
What a joke Samsung has become
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post #49 of 135
12/15/11 at 8:57am
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Originally Posted by herbapou View Post


On the phone side, I dont know there phone sales numbers but I sure see lots of people buying samsung phones here in Montreal. I wouldn't be suprise if they are the biggest android phone seller.


IIRC, Samsung and HTC are usually the top in various markets. In some, they outsell Apple.
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post #50 of 135
12/15/11 at 9:03am
So many sour grapes in this thread. Companies do these stunts all the time, including Apple (Mac/Windows comparisons for one). Good on Samsung for capitalizing on their Australian legal drama.
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post #51 of 135
12/15/11 at 9:20am
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Originally Posted by The Mock Turtleneck View Post

So many sour grapes in this thread. Companies do these stunts all the time, including Apple (Mac/Windows comparisons for one). Good on Samsung for capitalizing on their Australian legal drama.

I think they would be better served explaining why consumers should buy it. Tell us what's unique about your device, i.e., does it sync wirelessly with my Mac or does it have Airplay functionality? Since it has been accused of copying Apple, you'd think the answer would be yes.
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post #52 of 135
12/15/11 at 9:27am
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The Galaxy Tab - "The tablet that nobody wants to buy"


The iPad - "The tablet Samsung HAD to copy!"

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"First our iPhone! Now our iPad!! REALLY Samsung?!!!

OR

photo of iPhone and date, Samsung and date, then photo of iPad and date and then Samsung and date.... Tagline... (in President Ronald Reagan's voice)...

"There you go again!"
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post #53 of 135
12/15/11 at 9:27am
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

Please stop.

You don't seem to know what you are talking about and it's kind of embarrassing to read.

1) It captures video in "full HD" but the display is actually a lower resolution than the iPhone by far.

Samsung Nexus screen : 1280x720 on a 4.6" screen. 316ppi
Iphone 4S screen : 960x640 on a 3.5" screen. 330ppi

I am sorry but the samsung display is NOT of a lower resolution than the iphone "by far", they both have over 300ppi
And WTF are you to tell me to stop posting....

Both phones have there ups and downs, but people walk in, see a bigger phone with 4G LTE and this hurts iphone sales, like it or not.

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post #54 of 135
12/15/11 at 9:33am
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Samsung Nexus screen : 1280x720 on a 4.6" screen. 316ppi
Iphone 4S screen : 960x640 on a 3.5" screen. 330ppi

I am sorry but the samsung display is NOT of a lower resolution than the iphone "by far", they both have over 300ppi
And WTF are you to tell me to stop posting....

lol, nice edit.
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post #55 of 135
12/15/11 at 9:39am
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Both phones have there ups and downs, but people walk in, see a bigger phone with 4G LTE and this hurts iphone sales, like it or not.

Did you happen to read what AT&T and Sprint said after the first weekend of selling the iPhone 4S? It's in direct contrast to what you're saying.
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post #56 of 135
12/15/11 at 9:43am
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Did you happen to read what AT&T and Sprint said after the first weekend of selling the iPhone 4S? It's in direct contrast to what you're saying.

lol, of course there was lots of people buying the iphone 4s when it got out, I was one of them...
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post #57 of 135
12/15/11 at 9:45am
Hahhahahaah RESPECT SAMSUNG RESPECT.

lol

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post #58 of 135
12/15/11 at 10:02am
Don't Rolex and Gucci try to stop cheap knockoffs of their products also?
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post #59 of 135
12/15/11 at 10:07am
Someone please explain why we should not be worried about this:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...79R0B620111028

As an investor I read this and thought: "Crap, someone has figured out how to compete with Apple on the Android platform." Am I wrong?
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post #60 of 135
12/15/11 at 10:11am
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Originally Posted by scalpernt View Post

Someone please explain why we should not be worried about this:

Because it's from October, the month ending the quarter where millions of people were waiting for the 5th-gen iPhone that they all supposed would be released in July.

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Am I wrong?

Yes.
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post #61 of 135
12/15/11 at 10:36am
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Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

How could that be? What could possibly explain why there is such a huge difference in ratings for the same exact game? Hmmm, I wonder why that it is.

Well if you took the time to go to the Android market and look at the ratings, why didn't you take the extra 10 seconds to look at the actual reviews to explain why people had given it a poor review?
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post #62 of 135
12/15/11 at 10:38am
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Originally Posted by herbapou View Post

Both phones have there ups and downs, but people walk in, see a bigger phone with 4G LTE and this hurts iphone sales, like it or not.

And then they get home, realize LTE won't be rolled out to even within 50 miles of where they live until 2014, actually start using Android, and beat themselves for their stupid purchase.

And how does it hurt Apple's sales when Apple STILL sells more iPhones than any other model of anything from anyone else? The larger screened LTE phones sold less than the iPhone 3GS, for heaven's sake.
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post #63 of 135
12/15/11 at 10:40am
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Originally Posted by herbapou View Post

Has an AAPL stock owner I care a lot.

Samsung did sold MORE smarthphones than Apple in Q3. And they are not dumping them at cost, they are making big $$ on them. Maybe they copied Apple design, but it sure is working for them.

Samsung doesn't earn Apple-style margins, however. They aren't at razor-thin Motorola margins, either, but Apple still commands a premium.

It remains to be seen how well the Galaxy Tab actually sells in Australia. It hasn't really caught on here in the US. All the non-iPad attention is on the Kindle Fire.
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post #64 of 135
12/15/11 at 10:40am
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And then they get home, realize LTE won't be rolled out to even within 50 miles of where they live until 2014, actually start using Android, and beat themselves for their stupid purchase.

And how does it hurt Apple's sales when Apple STILL sells more iPhones than any other model of anything from anyone else? The larger screened LTE phones sold less than the iPhone 3GS, for heaven's sake.

Hey... do you really think that anyone who buys an Android phone will be able to figure out that they are not getting LTE.

j/k
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post #65 of 135
12/15/11 at 10:50am
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The larger screened LTE phones sold less than the iPhone 3GS, for heaven's sake.

The total of all of them or each specific model? I'm assuming you meant no single specific model outsold the 3GS and just worded it awkwardly.

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post #66 of 135
12/15/11 at 10:50am
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Because it's from October, the month ending the quarter where millions of people were waiting for the 5th-gen iPhone that they all supposed would be released in July.



Yes.

I highly doubt he's an "investor".

Anyhow, I can't wait to see the 4th quarter results.
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post #67 of 135
12/15/11 at 10:51am
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The total of all of them or each specific model?

I think those numbers were by model.

The iPhone 4 was on top, then the 3GS, then the rest of the smartphone market.
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post #68 of 135
12/15/11 at 10:51am
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Has an AAPL stock owner I care a lot.



Samsung did sold MORE smarthphones than Apple in Q3. And they are not dumping them at cost, they are making big $$ on them. Maybe they copied Apple design, but it sure is working for them.

depends how you define "big $$". To a child, $1000 is "big" money. According to all sources, Apple makes the lion share of profits in the phone market. Selling a million phones at a $2 USD profit each does not a lion share when Apple is making several orders of magnitude more per phone.

Samesung is everywhere, that is how they try to profit, providing cloner, non-innovative products at volume in all sorts of markets. they do not innovate or have any differentiating features.
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post #69 of 135
12/15/11 at 10:54am
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Originally Posted by scalpernt View Post

Someone please explain why we should not be worried about this:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...79R0B620111028

As an investor I read this and thought: "Crap, someone has figured out how to compete with Apple on the Android platform." Am I wrong?

Don't believe all you read about Samsung, they're the masters of false advertising.
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post #70 of 135
12/15/11 at 10:55am
You may want to be more careful with the crowd on these forums. On the one hand, you say this:

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And they are coming in with full HD resolution now, beating the iphone retina display in terms of pixel density.

But then follow it with this contradicting assertion:

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Samsung Nexus screen : 1280x720 on a 4.6" screen. 316ppi
Iphone 4S screen : 960x640 on a 3.5" screen. 330ppi

Prof. Peabody's statement grossly abused the phrase "by far":

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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

the display is actually a lower resolution than the iPhone by far.

However it's still accurate (albeit subjectively exaggerated - some call that "marketing" ), whereas your statement is not. The pixel density of the display you mention, and link specifications for, is not greater than the mentioned iPhone's.

It would have been more precise to say the iPhone's display pixel density was ~9.5% greater, but it was still accurate in terms of it's factual information.
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post #71 of 135
12/15/11 at 10:58am
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You have to give Samsung credit...they are really "all in" with this.

I agree. But I wonder how/if Apple will respond to this very personal and aggressive campaign. During the Jobs era you could count on Apple to be very smart about this--doing something very clever and unexpected. This might be a good touchstone to see if any of Jobs' legendary Zen-like mojo has metastasized into the corpus Apple.
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post #72 of 135
12/15/11 at 11:00am
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depends how you define "big $$". To a child, $1000 is "big" money. According to all sources, Apple makes the lion share of profits in the phone market. Selling a million phones at a $2 USD profit each does not a lion share when Apple is making several orders of magnitude more per phone.

Samesung is everywhere, that is how they try to profit, providing cloner, non-innovative products at volume in all sorts of markets. they do not innovate or have any differentiating features.

From a link a few posts up, Samsung's latest quarterly profits from their telecoms division, "more than doubled from a year ago to a record 2.5 trillion won ($2.2 billion) and accounted for 60 percent of Samsung's total profit, offsetting a plunge in earnings from its bread-and-butter memory chips".

I think their phone sales could be considered successful. Certainly no Apple, but still fairly impressive considering they just entered the smartphone market little more than a year ago.

"Shipments of smartphones jumped 44 percent from the preceding quarter to 27.8 million units, up nearly four times from a year ago, according to research firm Strategy Analytics."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...79R0B620111028

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post #73 of 135
12/15/11 at 11:18am
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I don't think that marketshare is everything. Apple is never going to have a greater marketshare than Android now, when it comes to phones, as a fine steakhouse is never going to sell more hamburgers than a McDonald's does. And that's ok.


More like the Camry sells more than a Ferrari, and a Camry sells more than an econobox, but Android powers both Ferraris and econoboxes, which together sell more than Apple's Camry.


Using your logic, one could claim the AppStore to be McDonalds.
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post #74 of 135
12/15/11 at 11:21am
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

In related news Jeffery Dahmer makes name for himself by stealing the lives of 17 men and boys. Sure, you can get known, but I doubt the old adage of "Any publicity is good publicity" doesn't hold true when trying to sell a product. That said, if they turn a profit stealing from their betters then so be it. That's the way the game works.

There is a huge difference between Samsung and a sicko serial killer.

Starting with the fact that Samsung was the victim of a big brute trying to kill THEM, and not the other way around.
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post #75 of 135
12/15/11 at 11:24am
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That episode came out a few weeks after I made this:



COINCIDENCE?!



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post #76 of 135
12/15/11 at 11:25am
"Tablet Apple tried to stop" - not because it was better but because it was a patent violation. But you won't see that second part in their ad.
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post #77 of 135
12/15/11 at 11:28am
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They haven't lost their edge in hardware. Apple isn't a spec chaser. Apple decided that what they have at present is good enough and, so far, they have been proven more than correct.

When Apple decides to release something different then they will.

It aint about losing one's edge. It's a matter of choice.



So long as Apple can maximize profits, they are doing the right thing. Apple does not believe that making SOTA hardware is the best path to maximum profits.
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post #78 of 135
12/15/11 at 11:29am
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Originally Posted by King of Beige View Post

Don't believe all you read about Samsung, they're the masters of false advertising.

I don't know about false advertising, but I do know that they provide zero/zip/zilcho audited information on their handset sales.

Other than it all being "smooth," of course......
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post #79 of 135
12/15/11 at 11:31am
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I disagree. No one knows about the Galaxy Tab outside of the tech world. The two devices that stand out are the iPad and the Kindle Fire.

You may be correct. But Samsung is aiming to change that with this ad campaign.
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post #80 of 135
12/15/11 at 11:38am
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Originally Posted by herbapou View Post

Samsung Nexus screen : 1280x720 on a 4.6" screen. 316ppi
Iphone 4S screen : 960x640 on a 3.5" screen. 330ppi

I am sorry but the samsung display is NOT of a lower resolution than the iphone "by far", they both have over 300ppi
And WTF are you to tell me to stop posting....

Both phones have there ups and downs, but people walk in, see a bigger phone with 4G LTE and this hurts iphone sales, like it or not.




The Galaxy Nexus is awesome. The Galsxy SII is also nothing short of excellent.
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