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Apple has reportedly begun work on new, tiny, wearable devices that could be controlled with Siri, or used to input information to devices like the iPhone.

One of the prototype products developed by Apple, according to The New York Times, is a "curved-glass iPod that would wrap around the wrist." Users could interact with this device by using their voice, like with Siri on the iPhone 4S.

Another experimental idea from Apple has been small, wearable devices that could be used to input information on another, more powerful device like an iPhone. These accessories could also wirelessly display information on other devices, like iPods.

Apple's interest in wearable electronics has reportedly been spearheaded by a very small group of employees at the company. But prototypes of some wearable devices have allegedly been built by the company.

Author Nick Bilton said Apple is not alone in its pursuit of these devices: Google, too, is said to have been working on wearable computers that could connect to Android smartphones. Calling the smartphone the "first wearable computer," Bilton said smartphones will eventually become the "hub" for all information, "transmitting power and Internet access to sensors and screens that are tacked on to our clothing."

Of course, Apple has produced wearable version of the iPod for years, and currently sells the iPod shuffle and iPod nano, both of which include a clip so it can be attached to clothing. The iPod nano, which includes a multi-touch display, can also be worn as a watch with available accessories.



Though the tiny iPod nano includes a standard 30-pin iPod dock connector, it does not include any wireless functionality that would allow it to wirelessly communicate with an iPhone. As it stands, the iPod nano is a standalone media playback device.

But Bilton's report envisions a future where all devices are connected, and wearable electronics could include glasses or even contact lenses with built-in screens, capable of displaying information to users.
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So something like this: http://www.imwatch.it/

These are a great idea, but a little pricey. Apple's version with Siri should be nice...
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You gotta be pretty dumb to think for one second that Apple have not been working on such devices.
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Not a big fan of IBM but this commercial seems well ahead of its time.
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Not a big fan of IBM but this commercial seems well ahead of its time.

The ad fails to show what will be the killer feature of wearable computing though. Augmented Reality. Paired together this will be the next big evolutionary step in computing since the tablet and perhaps since the GUI/Mouse.
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Not a big fan of IBM but this commercial seems well ahead of its time.

It's not ahead of it's time. Microsoft developed the idea of a vaporware product commercial years ago.
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The ad fails to show what will be the killer feature of wearable computing though. Augmented Reality. Paired together this will be the next big evolutionary step in computing since the tablet and perhaps since the GUI/Mouse.

Well I got to disagree. To me the "killer" feature is that computers are becoming less obtrusive and are becoming 'invisible' to the user. That's the next "killer" feature IMO. Apple are pretty much the leader in this trend already. I look for that to continue.
post #9 of 73
This kind of stuff will be a much bigger deal for Apple than any TV-related product that they might come out with.
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Don't forget Sony.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsir_...e_gdata_player

That looks clunky as crap to me. So instead of a phone with a small screen I can have a watch with an even smaller screen. Ok...?

I find the IBM take on wearable computers more interesting because the of voice recognition and glasses that provide a possibly better viewing experience.
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Next thing you know they'll want to implant computers... D'oh....SINGULARITY!

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post #12 of 73
Great.
So the mercantile society of plastic gave us a huge spike in Alzheimer's disease (plastic degrades over time and frees neurotoxins in the air that kill your little fragile brain).
So Wifi and Bluetooth expose our little fragile brains to electromagnetic waves that increase the rate of migraines.
And Google/Apple's idea of progress is to add even more stuff, closer to us, more connected? I hope not.

On the other hand, I recently observed that several products that were banned in my country for being known toxics (cancer inducing stuff) are still sold on the other side of the border. I wish the guys who knowingly keep selling them because "it has not been proven dangerous in this other country" could be tried for high treason against the people and executed in a very painful fashion.

We have lost many, many geniuses and more normal "bright minds" to cancer and Alzheimer. How long will we keep this going?

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That looks clunky as crap to me. So instead of a phone with a small screen I can have a watch with an even smaller screen. Ok...?

I find the IBM take on wearable computers more interesting because the of voice recognition and glasses that provide a possibly better viewing experience.

While Sony has an actual working product, it lacks a high quality retina display and multitouch.
When Apple does it using the best technology it will be far less clunky.

How is the IBM thingy providing a better experience when it is so
simultaneously creating a huge blind spot?

Society-at-large considers people who wear Bluetooth headsets all the time as self-important douche bags.
I'm sure the douche bags will be lining up to get the head mounted display as well because you never know when you might need to SELL! SELL! SELL!
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Well I got to disagree. To me the "killer" feature is that computers are becoming less obtrusive and are becoming 'invisible' to the user. That's the next "killer" feature IMO. Apple are pretty much the leader in this trend already. I look for that to continue.

I would say becoming "less obtrusive " was more a steady progression than the big evolutionary step to be found from the erm……. iView ?
post #15 of 73
Yes, combadges .... I was expecting this ...
post #16 of 73
"NYT: Apple secretly working on wearable, Siri-compatible computers"

It's not really a "secret" if it's being reported by the New York Times, and reported on by other media outlets.
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Yes, combadges .... I was expecting this ...

The idea predates comm badges, and is, as described, much more similar to this:

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You gotta be pretty dumb to think for one second that Apple have not been working on such devices.

I disagree with this to a degree.

I think you are dumb if you think that Apple hasn't thought about it, prototyped it and perhaps even patented it. Because in all likelihood they have

But you are also dumb if you assume that all prototypes and thoughts will end up being produced. It's possible that Apple considered, tested, and rejected this idea along with the 7 inch iPad as impractical for their target audience (which by the by isn't techno geeks or computer pros)

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Society-at-large considers people who wear Bluetooth headsets all the time as self-important douche bags.
I'm sure the douche bags will be lining up to get the head mounted display as well because you never know when you might need to SELL! SELL! SELL!

Don't forget how "society-at-large" looked at cell phone users 20 years ago...
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But you are also dumb if you assume that all prototypes and thoughts will end up being produced. It's possible that Apple considered, tested, and rejected this idea along with the 7 inch iPad as impractical for their target audience (which by the by isn't techno geeks or computer pros)

Who said "produced"? not I.

"working on" and experimenting with is what I'm talking about.

I'm sure for every 20 mockups and experiments they "work on" only 1 maybe "produced".


As wearable computing will be huge in future, they would be pretty dumb to not be pouring resources into it. To create and learn from experiments so that when the time comes and the technology is ripe, they are prepared.
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While Sony has an actual working product, it lacks a high quality retina display and multitouch.
When Apple does it using the best technology it will be far less clunky.

The watch just seems to function as a secondary display for the phone and a crappy one at that. It was funny how the guy went through all these contortions to show how if you look at the missed calls on the watch they would appear when you pull out your phone and unlock the screen. Only problem is that it seemed more difficult to use the watch for this than just pulling out the phone and checking notifications. Epic fail IMO.

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How is the IBM thingy providing a better experience when it is so
simultaneously creating a huge blind spot?

Well the blind spot concern is valid. But I like the idea a display in glasses. It sort of a heads up display which I imagine could be very nice. The big improvement on the UX is the voice commands.
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Well the blind spot concern is valid.

Yep, and I'm sure governments will regulate their use in driving. Which is a shame because you could imagine with AR a cleaner prettier world without sign posts. AR virtual signposts overlaid instead.
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The idea predates comm badges, and is, as described, much more similar to this:


I've been expecting an iPhone Nano for some time precisely because of this.
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Great.
So the mercantile society of plastic gave us a huge spike in Alzheimer's disease (plastic degrades over time and frees neurotoxins in the air that kill your little fragile brain).
So Wifi and Bluetooth expose our little fragile brains to electromagnetic waves that increase the rate of migraines.
And Google/Apple's idea of progress is to add even more stuff, closer to us, more connected? I hope not.

On the other hand, I recently observed that several products that were banned in my country for being known toxics (cancer inducing stuff) are still sold on the other side of the border. I wish the guys who knowingly keep selling them because "it has not been proven dangerous in this other country" could be tried for high treason against the people and executed in a very painful fashion.

We have lost many, many geniuses and more normal "bright minds" to cancer and Alzheimer. How long will we keep this going?

Uh oh. Someone get him back into his cave.
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Yep, and I'm sure governments will regulate their use in driving. Which is a shame because you could imagine with AR a cleaner prettier world without sign posts. AR virtual signposts overlaid instead.

That's why I believe Apple should get into auto NAV systems.

What works in one environment does not necessarily work in another. Cars need their own user interfaces that are optimized for safety while operating the vehicle.
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Great.
So the mercantile society of plastic gave us a huge spike in Alzheimer's disease (plastic degrades over time and frees neurotoxins in the air that kill your little fragile brain).
So Wifi and Bluetooth expose our little fragile brains to electromagnetic waves that increase the rate of migraines.
And Google/Apple's idea of progress is to add even more stuff, closer to us, more connected? I hope not.

On the other hand, I recently observed that several products that were banned in my country for being known toxics (cancer inducing stuff) are still sold on the other side of the border. I wish the guys who knowingly keep selling them because "it has not been proven dangerous in this other country" could be tried for high treason against the people and executed in a very painful fashion.

We have lost many, many geniuses and more normal "bright minds" to cancer and Alzheimer. How long will we keep this going?

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post #27 of 73
If they are shorts, can we fart/shit on it? Can we have a refund if the smell is too bad and the device breaks down?
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The ad fails to show what will be the killer feature of wearable computing though. Augmented Reality. Paired together this will be the next big evolutionary step in computing since the tablet and perhaps since the GUI/Mouse.

I'm not so sure. People have been pushing the idea of wearable computers for over 35 years now and it hasn't happened yet.

I think the main problem is that there are not really many uses for a wearable computer. The kind of things most people envision when they conceptualise it are things like body monitoring (something almost no one wants to do it seems) and wearing virtual reality headsets (something even less people want to do).

I can see the value of the wrist-watch type add-on computer discussed in some of these posts but even then all you are doing is moving it from your pocket to your wrist. One could just as easily take the phone out of one's pocket and talk directly to it.

I don't see any real applications of this kind of technology yet. At least not any that the average person is going to need/want enough to drive the adoption curve.

Augmented reality is okay and all, but it's not very accurate and not very useful overall. Who wants to walk down the street wearing special specs all the time, just so that one can see overlays of what are essentially advertisements on top of all the everyday objects?

I'm not saying it isn't a cool thing for geeks to contemplate, but what Jane or John Doe in the street is going to want that?
post #29 of 73
Jesus ....

Yet again, Apple leads the paradigm switch forward -- first with tablets & now with the Negroponte/MIT: wearable computing.

Result?
Everyone & thier cousin Ralph will fenounce it, then, after it's record breaking "How Did I Live Before Without This?" smash hit,
they will climb and fall all over each other to blatantly copy what is clearly a specifically Apple concept.
No "Taking Something Existing & Improving It" here -- this is strictly an Apple idea.
I bet the support-/eco-system surrounding it is already sketched out.

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We have lost many, many geniuses and more normal "bright minds" to cancer and Alzheimer. How long will we keep this going?

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Augmented reality is okay and all, but it's not very accurate and not very useful overall. Who wants to walk down the street wearing special specs all the time, just so that one can see overlays of what are essentially advertisements on top of all the everyday objects?

I'm not saying it isn't a cool thing for geeks to contemplate, but what Jane or John Doe in the street is going to want that?


It is in it's infancy (I'm working on AR projects myself right now so I'm limited in what I can say), but there is so much more to it beyond the initial driving force (advertising).
Object recognition hooked up to a wikipedia style DB, or with price comparison. Virtual signposts (as I said above). … then off the top of my head it becomes tricky to suggest ideas without shooting myself in the foot. But here's one for you.. Zoom! Imagine looking at an object in the distance, then being able to zoom in on the area that your eyes are focussed upon.

This is not just an evolutionary leap in computing, it could be considered an evolutionary leap for mankind.



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I'm not so sure. People have been pushing the idea of wearable computers for over 35 years now and it hasn't happened yet.

Much like tablet computing and smart phones and voice recognition, it's time will come. That's why AR is such an important ingredient , only when you marry up AR and wearable computing does each become appealing and useful to the mass market.

Until then, yep it's mostly just gimmicks .
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Next thing you know they'll want to implant computers... D'oh....SINGULARITY!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singularity

Oh so you've seen the prototype for the iPhone 10

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A nice piece of aluminum foil pressed tightly around your head to conform to your skull makes a useful shield. Its effectiveness is enhanced if you attach a long piece of fine copper wire to the metal skull cap so that it can trail behind you as a ground. Makes quite a fashion statement, too. Beware, however, of practical jokers who may sneak up behind you and insert the end of the wire into a wall outlet. Electroshock therapy is not for amateurs.

Tinfoil works even better, especially if formed into the shape of a Pyramid. It is said that in Atlantis, before they suffered their great disaster and disappeared forever, the technology was so advanced that the electromagnetic waves emitted by their devices prevented and/or cured cancer as opposed to causing it. So sad, what happened to them. All we can hope now is that the aliens (that helped Atlanteans out) return to Earth to help us too.

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Oh so you've seen the prototype for the iPhone 10

That would be the iPhone X.

I speculated a bit on this before. Making the current nano a full up iOS device will be a killer. Lot of tech work that can't be overestimeted though - that's a pretty small box to cram stuff in to.
post #35 of 73
Love the reports on secret work. Did someone find this on wikileaks?
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If you're really interested in studies concerning wearable computers, potential customer's reactions and wants in that regard as well as current availability, then this site is worth a visit. She first published the original study in 2008. The site includes links to currently available devices, consumer research, and other site links.

http://www.watier.org/kathy/wearables.htm
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Tinfoil works even better, especially if formed into the shape of a Pyramid. It is said that in Atlantis, before they suffered their great disaster and disappeared forever, the technology was so advanced that the electromagnetic waves emitted by their devices prevented and/or cured cancer as opposed to causing it. So sad, what happened to them. All we can hope now is that the aliens (that helped Atlanteans out) return to Earth to help us too.

Thompson

They are due 12/21/2012. I understand the Ancient Mayans already have several apps pending in the app store.
post #38 of 73
When it comes to wearable computers I'm surprised health has come up in the article or the forum. Imagine a computer being able to crunch years of your waking and sleeping vitals. Apple might be able to make an accurate death clock.
Personally I'd be okay with something injected under my skin instead of having to wear something clunky like the Jawbone Up.

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A nice piece of aluminum foil pressed tightly around your head to conform to your skull makes a useful shield. Its effectiveness is enhanced if you attach a long piece of fine copper wire to the metal skull cap so that it can trail behind you as a ground. Makes quite a fashion statement, too. Beware, however, of practical jokers who may sneak up behind you and insert the end of the wire into a wall outlet. Electroshock therapy is not for amateurs.

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What sucks is eventually we won't be able to buy a pair of underwear without signing a 2 year agreement with Verizon.

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