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Nokia has sent out invitations to members of the press for a Windows Phone-related event on January 9 at the 2012 Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, Nev., as it gears up for the launch of its new Lumia phones in the U.S.

Electronista reported receiving the invitation on Monday, noting the invite's Microsoft's Metro UI tile theme. The event is expected to highlight the handset maker's Windows Phone-based Lumia smartphone line because the invitation uses the products' "Amazing Everyday" slogan.

However, Nokia could face some challenges to drumming up support for its new smartphones at CES. A recent report from Taiwan industry publication DigiTimes claims that vendors are expecting the confab to have an unusually small impact on consumer demand because of a lack of "new innovations."

After Nokia announced its new partnership with Microsoft in February, the company unveiled its first Windows Phone devices in October. The handsets went on sale last month in Europe, but they are not set to arrive in the U.S. until early 2012.



Lumia sales appear to be off to a modest start. Neither device was able to crack the list of top ten smartphones in the U.K. during the four weeks ending Dec. 9, according to a recent analysis. That report revealed that Nokia sold "only narrowly more" than its basic "Touch and Type" phones during the period, even with the help of a £20 million advertising campaign.

For its part, Nokia has said that U.K. preorders for Lumia have been higher than any other handset, but it has also noted that sales of the new Windows Phone devices will take time to build up because it lacks a base of customers that could automatically upgrade from a previous generation.

Nokia's new Lumia 800 (left) and Lumia 710 are its first Windows Phones.

Some analysts have lowered their estimates for Lumia sales on concerns that the handsets will fail to gain traction.

AT&T said last month that it is finalizing a deal with Nokia to begin offering its Windows Phone devices next year. An executive with the company cautioned that he foresees "a lot of challenges" for the Windows Phone platform as it aims to take share from Apple's iOS and Google's Android.

Recent leaks have also suggested that both AT&T and Verizon are testing LTE-based Lumia 800 devices on their networks, though it's not clear whether either carrier has made a final decision on such a device. Rumors have also swirled of a high-end Lumia 900 handset that could make its debut in the U.S. sometime next year.
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Can't wait for the US release of the Lumia.

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Yup, here it comes again. CES 2012. the biggest annual outpouring of BS in the world of consumer electronics. let the vaporware rain! let the hype pour!
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Yup, here it comes again. CES 2012. the biggest annual outpouring of BS in the world of consumer electronics. let the vaporware rain! let the hype pour!

I love CES because of that. It's a week long of trying to one-up unsubstantiated rumours about Apple with vapourware. It's gotten completely absurd.

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Yup, here it comes again. CES 2012. the biggest annual outpouring of BS in the world of consumer electronics. let the vaporware rain! let the hype pour!

Last year we had all of those awesome tablets that really took off. Wasn't the RIMM Playbook one of them? Oh, there was also the phone that turned into an ultra book. Actually, I think we'll see more of that in the future with all the 'cores' they keep adding to our phones.
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All the best to Nokia! I hope the phones do well. The Metro layer of Windows 7 looks intriguing, if only because it is so different from the iOS interface.
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Really want Nokia to compete with Apple. They really have great design team. All other asian phone companies are just copying each other, so boring. Nokia has that different, unique look in their industrial European designs.
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Wow go out and buy Nokia stock and watch the money poor in. On the other hand look for penny stock and buy that to see your dollars populate at a substantial amount. Nokia is a company that reminds me os Kim Jong ILLLLLLLLLL. Thats right its iLLLLLL advised to by and eventually will be bought out and then de solved.
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Ahh, it seems like just yesterday we saw images like this. It was comical then, but even more so now.

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Will Nokia wait until the iPhone 5 release to have its funeral, or do I have to plan to go in Jan?
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If I were to purchase another smartphone other than an iPhone it would be a windows phone 7.5 device.
Why? Well, its different isn't it, its not trying to be an iPhone as Microsoft have gone their own way with Metro. Have something a bit different from your main phone (a 4S in my case) rather than 2 of the same.
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... for making everyones second favourite mobile OS. Now, if only we all needed two phones.
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I love CES because of that. It's a week long of trying to one-up unsubstantiated rumours about Apple with vapourware. It's gotten completely absurd.

I hope they keep it up, it is obviously working so well ... For Apple
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Ahh, it seems like just yesterday we saw images like this. It was comical then, but even more so now.

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That is so going to haunt them when they zune again.

I wonder he long MS will fund the losses with this product? Maybe I should look that up on Bing?
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the Lumina 800 looks really awesome. I wonder how it performs.
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Join us and industry leaders in smart devices. LOL!
I have seen that crap before and it still cracks me up.
Nokia's business model of having 5 dozen different phones has been pawnd by the iPhone .
One iPhone is everything Nokia ever had from their lowest entry to their most high end entry.
Also Nokia can't sit on one phone like Apple for a year.
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OK, can I just say again how FUGLY the UI is on these Windows phones? The first time I saw it I literally thought it must be a mistake. It looks like the fake plastic overlays they used to put on kids' LCD toys to simulate a screen image. Oh look...random blue rectangles of various sizes!
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OK, can I just say again how FUGLY the UI is on these Windows phones? The first time I saw it I literally thought it must be a mistake. It looks like the fake plastic overlays they used to put on kids' LCD toys to simulate a screen image. Oh look...random blue rectangles of various sizes!

Agree. First time I saw a photo of Metro, I thought "Can't wait to see the beta version after they change those placeholder graphics..."

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OK, can I just say again how FUGLY the UI is on these Windows phones? The first time I saw it I literally thought it must be a mistake. It looks like the fake plastic overlays they used to put on kids' LCD toys to simulate a screen image. Oh look...random blue rectangles of various sizes!

Well you seem to be in the minority with that view. Funny you say kids toy when IOS looks so childlike and dated.
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Well you seem to be in the minority with that view. Funny you say kids toy when IOS looks so childlike and dated.

A~nd the pendulum swings back

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It will be interesting to see how well the Windows phone does with Nokia doing the design. I have seen good and bad things said about the OS so it will be interesting to see what happens when it actually gets into consumers hands here. Has it gotten any traction where it has been on sale for this holiday season?

For me, I can't get past the asymmetry of the opening screen that I have seen screenshots of. There is just something about it that just bothers me to the point that I can't look at it very long. But that is just my impression of it.

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It will be interesting to see how well the Windows phone does with Nokia doing the design. I have seen good and bad things said about the OS so it will be interesting to see what happens when it actually gets into consumers hands here. Has it gotten any traction where it has been on sale for this holiday season?

For me, I can't get past the asymmetry of the opening screen that I have seen screenshots of. There is just something about it that just bothers me to the point that I can't look at it very long. But that is just my impression of it.

Neal

I actually think the LACK of symmetry on the home screen is a good thing. It allows a lot of functionality to be added to the empty space. The empty space adds more "balance" to the home screen. I'm not sure how to explain it.
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All the best to Nokia! I hope the phones do well. The Metro layer of Windows 7 looks intriguing, if only because it is so different from the iOS interface.

Which is becoming rather boring after 5 years...

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Which is becoming rather boring after 5 years...

Using that same, terribly incorrect image as that other guy? Why?

What, you want themes? Why would they change the layout (and thereby means through which interaction is facilitated)? You want analog clocks that take up the space of eight apps, get Android.

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Which is becoming rather boring after 5 years...

WP7 is brilliant and not an iOS copycat but suggesting iOS boring is a silly claim. I don't want my OS to be an adenture game with each revision. I want core changes to be systematic and mild so the utility of the device isn't negatIvely affected each year. I want to know where my apps are and having instant, nearly unconscious access to them.

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the Lumina 800 looks really awesome. I wonder how it performs.

For me, not so good. A friend of mine got the Lumia 800 and asked me to set it up, sync it with his Outlook on his Dell desktop etcetera.

The box design is crap; I dropped the phone simply by opening the box. Nothing broke, so that's a +. Grabbed the phone, apparently pressed a button on the side and the flash light turned on. And stayed on. Stayed on after I shut down the phone. Stayed on after doing a reset (in software, on the phone). Stayed on after a cold boot reset. Now where's the battery latch when you need it? Thought everyone didn't like the iPods' non-removable battery. And later the iPhone, hmmpf.

Tried to sync it with Outlook, couldn't do that. Only way was to have a Hotmail or Live account, sync Outlook with that and then back to your phone. Why on earth the same company that creates Outlook and the phone software do not talk to each other, even with a cable, is beyond my comprehension. I love the cloud, but it has to be thought-out and implemented well, like Apple does.

And even if you sync it with Microsoft in the cloud, it still doesn't sync Outlook tasks, only Mail, Calendar and Contacts.

I dislike the text being cut-off, but didn't try the phone out long enough as it was getting a bit warm with that flash light on. Returned the same day. Yes Nokia, my unit was faulty. Yes Microsoft, would like to try out WP7, but if basic things are cumbersome or not possible I can only imagine that my basic request is in the minority. Or something; I cannot understand why it is so crap. At least, for me.
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For me, not so good. A friend of mine got the Lumia 800 and asked me to set it up, sync it with his Outlook on his Dell desktop etcetera.

The box design is crap; I dropped the phone simply by opening the box. Nothing broke, so that's a +. Grabbed the phone, apparently pressed a button on the side and the flash light turned on. And stayed on. Stayed on after I shut down the phone. Stayed on after doing a reset (in software, on the phone). Stayed on after a cold boot reset. Now where's the battery latch when you need it? Thought everyone didn't like the iPods' non-removable battery. And later the iPhone, hmmpf.

Tried to sync it with Outlook, couldn't do that. Only way was to have a Hotmail or Live account, sync Outlook with that and then back to your phone. Why on earth the same company that creates Outlook and the phone software do not talk to each other, even with a cable, is beyond my comprehension. I love the cloud, but it has to be thought-out and implemented well, like Apple does.

And even if you sync it with Microsoft in the cloud, it still doesn't sync Outlook tasks, only Mail, Calendar and Contacts.

I dislike the text being cut-off, but didn't try the phone out long enough as it was getting a bit warm with that flash light on. Returned the same day. Yes Nokia, my unit was faulty. Yes Microsoft, would like to try out WP7, but if basic things are cumbersome or not possible I can only imagine that my basic request is in the minority. Or something; I cannot understand why it is so crap. At least, for me.


Didn't you say that you dropped the phone? You don't even know what you really broke and now you are blaming Nokia for their design, I thought you would be a bit smarter.

Just buy apple and eat it and do your ifart.
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Yup, here it comes again. CES 2012. the biggest annual outpouring of BS in the world of consumer electronics. let the vaporware rain! let the hype pour!

you can check the popularity of Nokia lumia 800 on a retailer's website. Maybe they are lying but if they do then its true for Apple too. So chill... http://www.three.co.uk/
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OK, can I just say again how FUGLY the UI is on these Windows phones? The first time I saw it I literally thought it must be a mistake. It looks like the fake plastic overlays they used to put on kids' LCD toys to simulate a screen image. Oh look...random blue rectangles of various sizes!

You don't seem to like it but others do...Your opinion is one of 7 billions. Here are few examples if lumia 800's popularity. http://www.expansys.com/top20/
http://www.three.co.uk/
http://www.expansys.com/top20/?f=1765
http://www.expansys.com.hk/top20/?f=1765
http://www.expansys.ie/top20/?f=1765
http://www.expansys.it/top20/?f=1765

Maybe all these ratings are just fake and who knows the reality. Why don't we wait and see how lumia does rather than bashing it from day one because we love apple?
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Yup, here it comes again. CES 2012. the biggest annual outpouring of BS in the world of consumer electronics. let the vaporware rain! let the hype pour!

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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

I love CES because of that. It's a week long of trying to one-up unsubstantiated rumours about Apple with vapourware. It's gotten completely absurd.

Indeed. I find CES quite offensive, actually. This thread might as well be titled "Nokia readies some DOA p.o.c. to launch at Jan 9 Mad Hatter party"
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Which is becoming rather boring after 5 years...


I've seen enough hentai to know where this is going... Oh wait, where is it going?
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