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Intel's Mac-bound Ivy Bridge CPUs rumored to launch April 8

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Intel is rumored to release a total of 25 new 22-nanometer Ivy Bridge processors on April 8, 2012, signaling a potential launch window for Apple's next generation of Macs.

Intel will release 17 desktop CPUs and 8 notebook Ivy Bridge processors in early April, DigiTimes reported on Wednesday. The initial chips are said to include models 3820QM and 3720QM, priced at $568 and $378, respectively, which could be candidates for Apple's MacBook Pro lineup.

The notebook Ivy Bridge processors will feature the new Intel HD Graphics 4000 architecture. Intel's M-Series lineup is expected to have nominal thermal design power of between 35 watts and 55 watts.

Set for a "later" launch, according to the report, are the Core i7-3667U and Core i5-3427U processors, intended for Intel's Ultrabook lineup. Those processors would also be possible candidates for Apple's own thin-and-light notebook, the MacBook Air.

Earlier reports have said the i7-3667U processor will be clocked at 2GHz, and can overclock to 3.2GHz in single-core mode, while the i5-3427U will run at 1.8GHz and overclock to 2.8GHz in single-core mode. Both models are said to feature a graphics processor clocked at 350MHz that can run as high as 1150MHz.

The rumored April 8 launch date for the first Ivy Bridge processors is slightly earlier than what a leaked roadmap from Intel showed earlier this month. Those documents showed a tentative launch date of May 2012 for the new chip platform.

Recent reports have pegged a MacBook Pro update from Apple to arrive in the second quarter of calendar 2012, a timeframe that would fit with the April debut of Intel's next-generation Ivy Bridge processors. The new MacBook Pros are rumored to feature a redesigned look with new high-resolution 2,880-by-1,800 Retina Display screens.



Retina Display MacBook Pros would be possible with Ivy Bridge because the next-generation architecture will bring support for 4K resolution. That gives Apple and other PC makers the option to build a display that is 4,096 pixels across.

For high-end MacBook Pro models with dedicated graphics cards, one report from November claimed Apple will switch to Nvidia for its 2012 notebooks. The last MacBook Pro models to feature Nvidia graphics arrived in 2010.

As for the MacBook Air, Apple is expected to expand the lineup and add a 15-inch model. Currently, its ultraportable notebook is available with screen sizes of 11.6 inches and 13.3 inches.
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Remember when this kind of article was the big news (and sometimes all we had) on AI? Nanometers, MHz, and Intel roadmaps...
Then came articles about the iPhone and, for a while, there were complaints--"I'm tired of articles about iPhones--what about real computers?"
LOL, here we are and no one has anything to say...
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"Out with the old, in with the new" as they say.
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I suspect people don't know what to make of a Retina display for a computer. At first it seems most needed for an iPhone so small text will be sharper to read - but the screens on laptops and desktops are so beautiful, why increase resolution? What's the benefit? What can I expect?

Generally we think of everything just getting smaller and we can fit more stuff, but most people don't want to, we're happy with how it is.

But what we haven't seen yet is higher pixel density in photos. Most photos we see on our computers have been down-res'd.

But a pic with double or more pixel density is stunning. Instead of it being huge where we have to scroll back and forth, up and down, it will fit, and it will be stunning. And then you can zoom in to areas if you want and it will still be sharp.

Also, we think icons, buttons etc, look excellent now - but higher res elements are beautiful. It really can get a lot better. It makes the whole experience richer.

When discussing these changes coming, we need to think of how our experiences will change.
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I'm excited about the Ivy Bridge platform but really it's just another incremental step forward.

I'm more excited about the opportunity to refresh the Mac lineup and really tailor the platform for today's computing usage. Meaning.

I would love to see the optical drive become optional. I want EVERY Mac to offer a minimum of 64GB of NAND storage for boot drive, for applications and ~user library (with the easy ability to take large folders like Pictures and Movies and place them on the HDD.

Throw in USB 3.0 and second generation Thunderbolt ports plus Bluetooth 4.0 and it should be a solid upgrade.
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I'm Excited. I highly doubt I'll upgrade anything, but if the features are right....

I mean- I don't do anything near the ability to take advantage of the i7 or Sandy Bridge i5 I have now. Photoshop, Handbrake, and FCPX are the most intensive things I do, So processors mean very very little to me. Displays, Appearance, Accessories, and SSDs are all I would care about. But thats a tall order to fill for me, personally because the iMacs and MacBook Airs/Pros look so damned nice as they are (with the exception of the air screen which has terrible color angles- but I still like it). My Dad's 2007 2.8 Core 2 Extreme still kills it w/ 4gb ram running lion. Cant even tell the difference in normal apps compared to my i7. I think I'm in the majority here too....

But- Apple rarely disappoints.

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When the hell are the new Mac Pro's going to show up? A little info on that matter would be nice. Hopefully this news will be the missing link in the release of one last Mac Pro.
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I hope the ARM-Cortex A9 or A15 support 4k video, perhaps it could be the next TV revolution?
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When the hell are the new Mac Pro's going to show up? A little info on that matter would be nice. Hopefully this news will be the missing link in the release of one last Mac Pro.

When Intel releases new Xeon CPUs.
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Well, I for one am keen.

The 2012 systems will be the first time there is enough horsepower in a non macpro model to achieve what I do in realtime. This will mean I can actually edit without doing my head in.
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Sweetness!!! 2,880x1,880..."Retina" displays. Yes, I'll buy it on day one, and let's have them be IPS displays please. How is it that iPhone, iPod touch, iPad 1 & 2, iMac (24", 21.5" & 27") can ALL have gorgeous IPS displays, but MacBook Pro's cannot?

I guess it's cost, maybe, but whatever, let's at least make it an option - an expensive one if need be, so that Apple can rake in its monumental mark-up's per MacBook sold. I'll gladly pay for it. :-D

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I want EVERY Mac to offer a minimum of 64GB of NAND storage for boot drive, for applications and ~user library.

I'm hoping to get the next 27" i7 (if that is the naming convention Intel continues with) iMac and this is another thing I would love - if the OS and Boot Drive is on a SSD and a 2TB HDD is provided.

I still need the ODD, but even if they remove it, I do have the Super Drive I had bought for my wife's MBA and an external Sony BD-Drive.

I too am hoping they upgrade the USB ports to 3.0.

Finally, I hope we do get cheaper thunderbolt accessories.
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Remember when this kind of article was the big news (and sometimes all we had) on AI? Nanometers, MHz, and Intel roadmaps...
Then came articles about the iPhone and, for a while, there were complaints--"I'm tired of articles about iPhones--what about real computers?"
LOL, here we are and no one has anything to say...

But you were the first poster. How did you know no one would have nothing to say? There are more posts and counting below your post.

Funny thing is my iPhone is more of a computer ever was in 2000. Does as much if not more all in a touch UI.
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This isn't about graphics, it's about font rendering. Apple has been trying to do auto scaling font rendering in the OS since at least Tiger and have failed. As a developer I know how hard it is to put in after an OS is out of the gate. Windows had it from the start and there third party application support even sucks.

What this does is allow fonts to quadruple in resolution without the developer even knowing about it. It's the same thing that happened when the iPhone 4 came out with it's Retina Screen. It was twice as wide and twice as high so old applications just pixel doubled in each direction. But the fonts, oh! those beautiful fonts on the iPhone 4 and 4S give soothing release to these tiered old eyes.

I'm still waiting for an iMac with a quad pixel screen increase, then I'll know I've gone to heven.
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I want EVERY Mac to offer a minimum of 64GB of NAND storage for boot drive, for applications and ~user library (with the easy ability to take large folders like Pictures and Movies and place them on the HDD.

32GB would be more than enough for the OS, applications and user library. Or even 16GB for the OS would be more than enough. What I want to see is Apple offering Seagate's Momentus XT.

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32GB would be more than enough for the OS, applications and user library.

Not when Steam puts your games in ~/Library/Application Support.

They need to freaking stop that.
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Really boy this crap is just a little to much, Apple can't ship a reasonable Mac Pro upgrade until Intel ships new chips to make the machine. That will happen when they get all the bugs out of the chip sets.

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When the hell are the new Mac Pro's going to show up? A little info on that matter would be nice. Hopefully this news will be the missing link in the release of one last Mac Pro.
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Really boy this crap is just a little to much, Apple can't ship a reasonable Mac Pro upgrade until Intel ships new chips to make the machine. That will happen when they get all the bugs out of the chip sets.

I don't think any of the other oems have put out new stuff either. People have become grumpy because it's gone from an overpriced machine to an overpriced machine with aging hardware. It happens. Intel definitely hasn't helped.

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Sweetness!!! 2,880x1,880..."Retina" displays. Yes, I'll buy it on day one, and let's have them be IPS displays please. How is it that iPhone, iPod touch, iPad 1 & 2, iMac (24", 21.5" & 27") can ALL have gorgeous IPS displays, but MacBook Pro's cannot?

I guess it's cost, maybe, but whatever, let's at least make it an option - an expensive one if need be, so that Apple can rake in its monumental mark-up's per MacBook sold. I'll gladly pay for it. :-D

Usually they require volume to accomplish such a thing. I can't find a specific panel related to laptop ips displays, although I know a couple brands employ them on a limited number of models. My guess would be that producing them at comparable resolution to what is seen on the macbook pros today (especially the high res 15") would be cost prohibitive. If Apple did this and the other OEMs then employed the same thing, I'm sure you'd hear about copying. The real issue is that while I'm sure many of these manufacturers would really like to do this (new shiny feature to attract upgrade purchases), it requires a huge amount of volume to make it viable. IPS saw its major growth by professional adoption. There was enough demand for quality displays because of the number of people who wanted to replace aging crt hardware, and the price points were still high enough to drive the technology forward. Today we have $300 24" ips displays. Pretty much everyone but LG has dropped out there, and they haven't really done much to push the technology forward.

If Apple does try to employ IPS there, it would probably be for the entire line. They don't really like significant design segmentation, so pricing from LG would become a factor. This means they may require support from other OEMs as well to really make this work close to current price points.
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I'm excited about the Ivy Bridge platform but really it's just another incremental step forward.

I'm more excited about the opportunity to refresh the Mac lineup and really tailor the platform for today's computing usage. Meaning.

I would love to see the optical drive become optional. I want EVERY Mac to offer a minimum of 64GB of NAND storage for boot drive, for applications and ~user library (with the easy ability to take large folders like Pictures and Movies and place them on the HDD.

Throw in USB 3.0 and second generation Thunderbolt ports plus Bluetooth 4.0 and it should be a solid upgrade.

Yeah, but it's a sweet spot. Great CPU, finally decent GPU, 4K is good (though DX10 gaming... well, I don't care, since I have an Xbox360 now and have ditched PC gaming for good).

320GB SSD Retina-Display MBA 13"... BRING IT ON.

I think the MBP13" will become a "higher-end" MBA 13", ie. no more MBP 13". MBP 15" will probably drop the optical drive for good in 2012 and have MBA styling. MBP 17" Will have MBA styling but optical drive an the whole kit'n'kaboodle.
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32GB would be more than enough for the OS, applications and user library. Or even 16GB for the OS would be more than enough. What I want to see is Apple offering Seagate's Momentus XT.

I think it's the end of the road for spinning platters, period. In the past few years I've had vibration and noise issues with 7200rpm drives, though no hard disk deaths as such. 5400rpm is really not in the Mac gamespace anymore, especially when Ivy Bridge comes out, along with the next rounds of VMWare and Parallels, as well as all the updated Mac apps.

For me, just having a whole nice 256GB or 320GB of SSD is... I think hard to encapsulate in a few words. With improvements in TRIM and all that stuff, SSDs offer an overall performance that is quite significant.

While regular hard disks will of course not disappear overnight, for the Mac portables I think it's quite clear light users will get by on 64-128GB, and "enthusiast" users will be at the 256GB-320GB mark. I postulate that this will be the case for 2012-2013. Yes, SSD capacity needs will increase, but with various cloud services 320GB should be the upper-end for most users. Pros who are not on iMac will probably need a MBP 15" with 512GB SSD but around this 0.5TB mark there are compelling reasons to switch your workflow to a Thunderbolt external-RAID drive or iMac anyway.
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320GB SSD Retina-Display MBA 13"... BRING IT ON.

I think the MBP13" will become a "higher-end" MBA 13", ie. no more MBP 13". MBP 15" will probably drop the optical drive for good in 2012 and have MBA styling. MBP 17" Will have MBA styling but optical drive an the whole kit'n'kaboodle.

I'd rather they went for a better quality display than a high resolution one - other manufacturers do this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hIe7OYfjiw

I'm not sure how much more expensive this would make them but it severely detracts from the perception of quality when they use bad TN panels.

I would also like to see them go towards Air-like styling across the entire lineup putting emphasis on keeping the laptops cool without excessive fan noise. Ivy Bridge will help here more than any other chip upgrade in the past.

It'll be interesting to see which way they go with dedicated GPUs: AMD or NVidia. Both should have good options to choose from but NVidia looks to be focussing on compute power. Virtual memory space would be great to have in the MBP as it means less complaining about lower amounts of VRAM - a unified 64-bit address space shared by the CPU and GPU would be a massive improvement for computation and gaming and should have been done long ago. Double precision Kepler GPU would be a great addition for the MBP (and Mini).

SSDs are becoming very affordable now, even 256GB ones. When the sub-20nm chips hit in 2012, the combined manufacturing improvements and consumer adoption will hopefully drive it to $1/GB or less. This means the entry Mac laptop can come with 128GB, the 13" and above with 256GB as dropping the optical saves $100 or so. They can simply have another blade slot or two for additional cards when the prices drop again. Some people won't like losing options for 1-1.5TB internal space but they will have USB 3 so portable drives up to 2TB can be bought cheaply.

I'd expect them to drop FW800 and ethernet at the next revision and replace them with dual Thunderbolt and 4 x USB 3 ports on the 15", 1 x Thunderbolt on the 13".
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This is no different than back in the PPC days when people blamed Apple for the lack of progress from Motorola and IBM. My point is if you must complain do it where it might do some good, in this case an Intel forum.

Not that it would accomplish much to complain to Intel. Let's face it everyone involved at Intel knows that the new Xeons have slipped. They know they need to fix whatever is wrong and get on with it, but they also know that rushing forward and stumbling on mistakes isn't helpful either.

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I don't think any of the other oems have put out new stuff either. People have become grumpy because it's gone from an overpriced machine to an overpriced machine with aging hardware. It happens. Intel definitely hasn't helped.

I'm grumpy when I get up in the morning, however I have the maturity to not get worked up over things I can't change. This constant whine, from a very few about the Mac Pro, really has a negative impact on this forum. It would be one thing if Intel had been shipping new hardware for months to other manufactures but the haven't so the noise is baseless.

It would be a totally different thing if people wanted to talk about the rumored new chips. For one there seems to be a lot to talk about and two this is a rumor site.
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Usually they require volume to accomplish such a thing. I can't find a specific panel related to laptop ips displays, although I know a couple brands employ them on a limited number of models. My guess would be that producing them at comparable resolution to what is seen on the macbook pros today (especially the high res 15") would be cost prohibitive.

Any laptop called a Pro ought to have a Pro quality display. However there are many factors that go into choosing a display so we would need to understand the trade offs Apple has made. In the end I don't really think the displays are all that bad in the MBP relative to the rest of the market.
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If Apple did this and the other OEMs then employed the same thing, I'm sure you'd hear about copying.

? What do you mean here. If any manufacture can get their panel costs down laptop makers would flock to that panel. Apple doesn't develop the displays so other users can't be accused of copying.
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The real issue is that while I'm sure many of these manufacturers would really like to do this (new shiny feature to attract upgrade purchases), it requires a huge amount of volume to make it viable. IPS saw its major growth by professional adoption. There was enough demand for quality displays because of the number of people who wanted to replace aging crt hardware, and the price points were still high enough to drive the technology forward. Today we have $300 24" ips displays. Pretty much everyone but LG has dropped out there, and they haven't really done much to push the technology forward.

This is contradictory. Either the displays are expensive or they are not.
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If Apple does try to employ IPS there, it would probably be for the entire line. They don't really like significant design segmentation, so pricing from LG would become a factor. This means they may require support from other OEMs as well to really make this work close to current price points.

They could easily put higher quality displays in the MBP line and leave the AIRs as is. I say higher quality because I want to include everything that is possible not just IPS displays. IPS will quickly become a technology of the past just like many of the other LCD technologies. There is often this perception that XYZ laptop has to have this technology (IPS) to be called professional machine, I think that is often a mistake. Even slapping a retina display into a MBP doesn't automatically make the machine a Pro computer, there are many other display parameters to consider.
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Yeah, but it's a sweet spot. Great CPU, finally decent GPU, 4K is good (though DX10 gaming... well, I don't care, since I have an Xbox360 now and have ditched PC gaming for good).

All of those features are important even if you have moved gaming off to a 360. GPU acceleration shows up in all sorts of places, even Web Broswers, people should strive for as much GPU performance as they can afford.

More importantly with Ivy Bridge the GPU is where most of the performance increases will come from.
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320GB SSD Retina-Display MBA 13"... BRING IT ON.

Well this is the really hard part because apparently the chips for the AIRs won't arrive until well after the other laptop chips. So we may have to wait until mid summer for AIR updates.
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I think the MBP13" will become a "higher-end" MBA 13", ie. no more MBP 13". MBP 15" will probably drop the optical drive for good in 2012 and have MBA styling. MBP 17" Will have MBA styling but optical drive an the whole kit'n'kaboodle.

I hope not. I really was hoping for a major refactoring of the 13"MBP. By that I mean a discrete GPU, SSD with a conventional drive bay and other goodies so that it continues to be a Pro machine. One of those others would be a better display.

The last thing we need from Apple is a line up of laptops limited in performance by AIRs thinnest.
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This is no different than back in the PPC days when people blamed Apple for the lack of progress from Motorola and IBM. My point is if you must complain do it where it might do some good, in this case an Intel forum.

Not that it would accomplish much to complain to Intel. Let's face it everyone involved at Intel knows that the new Xeons have slipped. They know they need to fix whatever is wrong and get on with it, but they also know that rushing forward and stumbling on mistakes isn't helpful either.


I'm grumpy when I get up in the morning, however I have the maturity to not get worked up over things I can't change. This constant whine, from a very few about the Mac Pro, really has a negative impact on this forum. It would be one thing if Intel had been shipping new hardware for months to other manufactures but the haven't so the noise is baseless.

It would be a totally different thing if people wanted to talk about the rumored new chips. For one there seems to be a lot to talk about and two this is a rumor site.

My only point on the mac pro was that it's been priced quite aggressively at the single socket end for some time even with Intel's shift in cpu pricing to ride out the extended cycle, so it's easy for the line to look neglected. Looking at the other oems, their lines are in a similar place. The workstation market must be looking pretty ugly at this point in terms of volume. What is interesting is how few non Apple computers I've seen recently.


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? What do you mean here. If any manufacture can get their panel costs down laptop makers would flock to that panel. Apple doesn't develop the displays so other users can't be accused of copying.

This is contradictory. Either the displays are expensive or they are not.

I was saying desktop panels were the area where IPS saw its growth in the past. They never caught on in laptops. They started with desktops in leveraging out crt technology on the higher end where other lcd technologies weren't working. More recently they've been making really small displays for phones using ips. I don't actually know why they haven't developed more panels for the laptop segment given that they cover sizes above and below. Also years ago they were quite expensive. It has just come down immensely.

Regarding laptop makers flocking, I meant that if Apple cut a deal for a large quantity of these parts causing production to ramp up, other manufacturers would be more likely to jump on board. With a big enough push for ips it might bring down the cost per unit enough to make it feasible. Apple tends to ship in huge volume per product design, so they can order enough of something to actually impact the industry to a degree. On expensive vs cheap anyway, it depends on popularity in a given size.
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I for one do hope that Apple keep an optical drive MacBook Pro option the line-up as I have shed loads of DVD's and still prefer to buy my music on CD (remember them! Far better quality than any download). It would be a shame if Apple abandoned FW800 just at the minute as there are still so many external HD's around that use the technology (I own 4 of the buggers) and it still beats a USB2 connected external hands down. USB3 and Thunderbolt would be great additions.

Maybe better quality displays instead of Retina and the current case design is still so appealing it would be hard to imagine what sort of a redesign Apple could come up with.
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I for one do hope that Apple keep an optical drive MacBook Pro option the line-up as I have shed loads of DVD's and still prefer to buy my music on CD (remember them! Far better quality than any download). It would be a shame if Apple abandoned FW800 just at the minute as there are still so many external HD's around that use the technology (I own 4 of the buggers) and it still beats a USB2 connected external hands down. USB3 and Thunderbolt would be great additions.

USB optical drives (even Blu-Ray) are inexpensive now. It would be a hassle for some people to carry around but you can extract the discs onto the internal when needed.

FW800 has its uses but Thunderbolt is external PCI so you can actually get a docking solution that gives you ethernet, FW800, USB and an extra Thunderbolt port all plugging into one port:

http://www.gizmag.com/belkin-thunder...ss-dock/19834/

This way you can hook up an external display and all your peripherals like USB optical drive and FW800 HDDs and connect them all to the laptop with a single plug.

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Maybe better quality displays instead of Retina and the current case design is still so appealing it would be hard to imagine what sort of a redesign Apple could come up with.

I still prefer the box design of the MBP over the wedge design of the Air and it gives more room for the battery. You can see here what removing the FW800 and ethernet ports allows them to do though:



Only having Thunderbolt, USB 3 ports, SD slot and magsafe allows them to make the machine a good deal thinner and to me it looks more modern.

I reckon a future design would be the iPad but where the display is OLED with two sides and you flip it up to use it like a laptop with a smart cover to protect the top screen but they need to get the batteries sorted out to make it light enough.
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Really boy this crap is just a little to much, Apple can't ship a reasonable Mac Pro upgrade until Intel ships new chips to make the machine. That will happen when they get all the bugs out of the chip sets.

Can't?

More like 'won't.'

They could offer a line of Final Cut X class prosumer headless i7s (a dirt cheap chip now) with the lastest kick ass Ati card.

..but they'll keep it as a premium (if the line survives...) flag ship to eye gauge people.

It's not had an update in ages. It's mouldy. It's crusty. The gpu is ancient on it. The entry level quad core for £2000 is a bad joke. Plus Apple monitor to set you back £3000 almost for a desktop system?

it's everything that is wrong with apple's desktop line. You'd be made to buy one over a 27 inch iMac.

The Mac pro party?

So over.

I'll blow a party pheeeper if they make 'one more' upgrade before dropping it in favour of 6 core iMacs at some point.

Hopefully, they'll prove me wrong on price, gpu and cpu. But they haven't so far and it's been years.

And all my lamenting hasn't made me feel better or improved Apple's pro sales. Pricey and out of date. It's a joke.

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You know, for a company that specializes in the video-graphics market, you'd think that they would offer top-of-the-line GPUs...

 

WITH THE NEW MAC PRO THEY FINALLY DID!  (But you bend over for it.)

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WITH THE NEW MAC PRO THEY FINALLY DID!  (But you bend over for it.)

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Having used an iMac for the last two years. The pro seems like a relic of a bye gone era.

Apple's focus is firmly on the consumer. It's pods/phones/laptops/imacs. Consumer software and apps stores.

and yes, it's made them billiosn more than a few video producers who dump Final Cut X for Avid whenever a single upgrade 'upsets' them. (Apple may as well chase the fickle consumer market as opposed tot he fickle and rigid 'pro' market...it's bigger and worth billions, billions more.)

We'll still have our iMacs to do 3d, video, gaming, emailing, music etc. The top end one is more than enough.

There's PCs for those that decide it's not enough. Or ebay for the last of the Pro line when it ships.

Lemon Bon Bon.

You know, for a company that specializes in the video-graphics market, you'd think that they would offer top-of-the-line GPUs...

 

WITH THE NEW MAC PRO THEY FINALLY DID!  (But you bend over for it.)

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You know, for a company that specializes in the video-graphics market, you'd think that they would offer top-of-the-line GPUs...

 

WITH THE NEW MAC PRO THEY FINALLY DID!  (But you bend over for it.)

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