Originally Posted by AbsoluteDesignz
Why did it take Google 2+ years after Schmidt being on the board to "copy" the iPhone if Schmidt had insider knowledge for a year pre-iPhone?
Re: Eric Schmidt at Apple
How much access do the Board of Directors have to Apple Engineering? I'm sure the Board knew Apple was working on an amazing new product
... but I doubt they got to see technical drawings, engineering plans, etc. They probably didn't even know it was a phone. Boards handle broad policies and objectives... not product development.
The iPhone project in 2006-2007 was probably the most highly guarded secret inside the walls at Cupertino.
I bet Schmidt saw the iPhone at the very same time the rest of us did... at the keynote.
Meanwhile... Google continued working on Android... and this was the Android Beta --> Link
Remember... that was 10 months after
Apple unveiled the iPhone. If Google had insider knowledge of the iPhone and/or Apple's new OS... they wouldn't have bothered with that crappy Android Beta. But they did... because it's all they had.
I doubt Schmidt/Google had any solid information about what Apple was working on... I think that Beta pretty much proves that.
The "copying" happened after
the iPhone came out
Originally Posted by PhilBoogie
Probably because they didn't work on it with their heart, without wanting to create a wonderful product. They had to reverse engineer the iPhone, and that will take longer than creating a product from scratch, I believe.
And the technology Apple used in making the iPhone comes from so many years of experience something that Google totally lacks. They make very simple products but implement it in a massive way. Hats off for that, but they don't focus. Even Steve told them to get rid of all the crap products they have and focus on a few one that are worthwhile, they still haven't taken that advise. Ok, that advise was from this year, so who knows how long it takes for them to truly understand what Steve meant.
At any rate, I think their products totally suck. And totally lack taste, similar to Microsoft. Even their search engine; if I tell it to give me results with publications from last month, it comes back with 2 year old articles, for whatever reason. Perhaps jragosta can give me lessons on how to search properly.
Right on, PhilBoogie.
Apple had obviously been working on the iPhone and its OS for years before we got a chance to see it. And we know Apple likes to make a good impression.
We'll probably never know what Android looked like in 2005 when Google bought it. But my gut feeling is... it wasn't pretty or amazing. And let's remember what smartphones looked like from 2005-2007... Android was most likely gearing up as a competitor to the Palm Treos, Blackberries and Windows Mobile phones of the day. (again... we'll never know for sure)
Apple was developing the iPhone around the same time as Google was developing Android... but Apple completely threw out the smartphone playbook and started from scratch. I doubt Google was thinking that far ahead at that time.
Apple had an interesting advantage because they were designing the software and
hardware at the same time... something Google was simply unable to do. Google was making software for other
companies' hardware... and hardware doesn't evolve very fast.
Google has some very talented engineers, and they are very good at technology.
The same is true for Apple... but Apple is also
very good at design, implementation... and vision.