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Marissa Mayer, Google's Vice President of Location and Local Services, offered a glowing endorsement of Apple's AirPort wireless router products on her Google+ social network page, where she also notes that she uses multiple Apple TV in addition to Google's own set top boxes.

Mayer originally posted for advice last month on buying a new wireless router for her home use, noting that "it needs to have support for 20+ connections and good range in terms of distance."

Her Google+ follower Saravana Shanmuga advised "Netgear is worth and we can customize !! where apple is good we cant customize."

Today, Mayer reported that she had initially bought a replacement Netgear N600 wireless router from Walmart, but said "I had continued problems even with the new router, with range and devices getting conflicting IP [addresses]" among her wirelessly connected devices at home, which included "a bunch of phones, tablets, Tivos, Google TVs, Apple TVs, etc."

Mayer added, "So, for Christmas, I asked for an Airport Extreme and 2 Airport Expresses (to chain together and create a mesh with better range). I set them all up last night, got all the devices connecting, and so far so good. It's not really a fair comparison, since there are 3 routers to the Netgear's 1, but iStumbler showed a lot more signal strength throughout the house, rarely less than 45%."

Mayer concluded, "I was really impressed with Apple's Airport Utility and how simple it made the set-up and chaining of routers. Hard to make the experience of setting up of a home network beautiful, but at least it was easy. I kind of wish I had gotten a Time Capsule for backups, but I was pretty focused on getting a good router system. Plus, that's what DropBox is for."

Apple quietly updated its Airport Extreme and Time Capsule products last June without fanfare, increasing their output power up to 2.8 times for improved range and reception while switching to a new Broadcom chip shared by the 2011 MacBook Pro.



While NPD hasn't published recent market share figures for WiFi routers, but its last public figures from mid 2008 indicated Apple's share of the router market was 10.6 percent, larger than the Mac's share of PC sales at the time. Apple was reported to be in fourth place behind Cisco's Linksys brand, D-Link, and Netgear, which Mayer reported issues with, despite its reputed "customization" options.
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Great. Now we're going to have Google routers that are open to allow you to do what you want with it. They will give it to you for free, you just have to agree to let Google pilfer through every bit sent and received through it.
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I agree with Marissa, I went through about a dozen WLAN routers over the years -- and eventually got an Airport Extreme.. I was hooked, everything just worked and I stopped having issues. I'll never buy a non-Apple WLAN router ever again!

Good for her commenting on this .. I want to tear my eyes whenever I see WLAN router recommendation threads and people recommend non-Apple gear.. they do not know what they do not know.
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I couldn't be happier with my AirPort Extreme. It works extremely well.

Actually, there is one thing...QoS. With more and more people switching to VoIP, we need some way to keep voice traffic prioritized over everything else. And the AirPort Extreme doesn't allow for that.
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I just replaced an ageing 1TB TimeCapsule with a 2TB and it took seven clicks and seven keystrokes to have the new one up and running!

Seven clicks to save and then import the TM config file (the Airport config utility even remembered the path to where it was saved) and the seven keystrokes were re-entering the password.

All of the Macs on the network found the new hard drive and Time Machine kicked in automatically.

Highly recommended.

I just wish I could install Ubuntu on it... Damned walled garden!

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Some people complain that you need an app to setup an Apple router; that the browser interface is good enough. It may be "good enough" but their AirPort Utility on Windows, Mac OS and iOS make is so much better, especially if you have multiple routers.


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Great. Now we're going to have Google routers that are open to allow you to do what you want with it. They will give it to you for free, you just have to agree to let Google pilfer through every bit sent and received through it.

Android OS is based on the open Linux and most consumer routers run on Linux. Would a vendor using Android be of much benefit over Linux? Is there anything in Android outside of the kernel they would need, assuming we're not talking about a router with a 4" touch display?


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I agree with Marissa, I went through about a dozen WLAN routers over the years -- and eventually got an Airport Extreme.. I was hooked, everything just worked and I stopped having issues. I'll never buy a non-Apple WLAN router ever again!

Good for her commenting on this .. I want to tear my eyes whenever I see WLAN router recommendation threads and people recommend non-Apple gear.. they do not know what they do not know.

They are the best and easiest consumer routers. The only problem is that even Apple's routers are feeling the strain of having so many 802.11 connected devices on a single network. We even have wall thermometers and bathroom scales with WiFi.

Sure, they can handle more than enough IP addresses but the processing data for multiple devices at once in a household seems to be bottlenecking at the processor. I wouldn't be surprised to see Apple use their ARM SoC/PoP designs based on an iOS(Darwin) in the future to help facilitate more devices running at optimal speeds.

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Marissa Meyer's opinion is about as important as my Mother's when it comes to Technology.

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The way to eliminate any wireless headaches is to go Apple Airport Extreme.

The way to reduce the cost is to start with an Apple Airport Extreme.

I wasted so much time and money trying different brands, configurations, settings, daily / weekly hard resets, always wishing I had an Apple. I though it was our internet service, or me. I finally broke down and got one six months ago, set it up in 6 minutes and it's been flawless.

There's even an iPhone App to manage everything (but it's so simple there's nothing to manage)

Fully Recommended, 100 out of 100, anybody who recommends anything else has not used both.
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The only problem is that even Apple's routers are feeling the strain of having so many 802.11 connected devices on a single network.

It is starting to get pretty bad indeed. I can't even get straight answers as to why it is a problem, or if anything short of the Cisco approach to separate radios and controllers can handle 30+ devices.
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I have owned 4 or 5 different brand routers over the years. The Apple one has definitely been the most reliable, with extremely long uptimes.
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Marissa Meyer's opinion is about as important as my Mother's when it comes to Technology.


So your mom has an M.S. in Computer Science from Stanford?

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Is it really that important that some Google exec cares for Apple technology? Do we care to know this persons opinion? It's a given that Apple routers are some of the best. An endorsement from this woman isnt and shouldnt be the final say as if thats what we have been waiting for all these years. Sigh
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I bought a Time Capsule last year and just a month after it they released the updated models! Anyway, I have setup Time Capsule as my base station and I use an Airport Express to extend the network.

I am pretty happy with the setup, but Time Machine was a pain on the TC. I had automated backups for 4 months before I changed my Mac's name and then Time Machine would not read any of the backups on TC. I fiddled around a little and Time Machine recognised it and then promptly deleted all my backups and started anew!

Now I only use the TC as a network drive. I haven't been bold enough to try Time Machine again!
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She's gonna be bummed when the new expresses come out this year that allow for simultaneous dual band (instead of just dual band).

Seriously- I hope they come out with new expresses with that.



On another note- why does a vp of google ask for anything for Christmas. Just buy it when ya want. Lol

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I bought one of the square N (non flying saucer) airport extremes about 6 years ago, it is still in service and working perfectly, I normally have 10 devices connected to it throughout my house and have had no problems with low signal or discos in fact the signal is great I have devices connected as far away as a hundred feet, it switches between G/N as I have an older G4 powerbook on the network. Visitors connect effortlessly and I don't recall ever having to reset it. Highly recommended like most Mac products it just keeps ticking, I want to upgrade to a dual band newer model soon though so I can have dedicated N.
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Wow, Marissa! You're so on top of technology! Only 10 years after the Airport routers are released do you actually get around to trying one!
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I agree with Marissa, I went through about a dozen WLAN routers over the years -- and eventually got an Airport Extreme.. I was hooked, everything just worked and I stopped having issues. I'll never buy a non-Apple WLAN router ever again!

Good for her commenting on this .. I want to tear my eyes whenever I see WLAN router recommendation threads and people recommend non-Apple gear.. they do not know what they do not know.

I used net gears for years & they've always been very reliable but had fewer features than others. My last netgear was an N capable router. I was bummed to find out at the time that since N was draft not all chipsets played nice together. I had various weird issues with certain devices but overall it still was a very solid router. After having that for a couple years I traded it for a linksys I could mod with ddwrt (at the time linksys out of the box had goofy DNS & I use opendns). I had lots of issues with the router & finally gave up on ddwrt & reluctantly went back to base firmware. Turns out the issues were with the router itself & I continued to have issues. Just so happens around this time I happened on an older N capable dual band AIrport Extreme (not simultaneous) for next to nothing. Jumped on it, got a 2TB USB drive & attached it to the USB port, now I run backups over the wifi to the USB drive & also host some shared storage. The range is incredible (by the way positioning near an outlet or copper pipe can boost the signal to areas of the house otherwise unreached) and the thing just works flawlessly. I will definitely be replacing it with another should it ever bite the dust.

Couple of side notes:
1) Linksys is garbage, if a sales person at the store ever recommends one to you run the other way cause they don't know the first thing about what they are trying to sell you.
2) whatever router you own & ISP you use make sure your router & modem are plugged into an APC/UPS, it will greatly extend the life of your devices and prevent those constant reboots you're probably always having to do. It is a battery backup, a 350VA & can be found at any Walmart or like an office maxx. It is NOT a surge strip, they are not the same. An added bonus is that when the power goes out during a storm I still have Internet for like 45min so I can keep up with the weather.
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I have to concur with this Googlee. I've owned many Netgear, Linksys, and D-Link networking productions, and Airport Extreme is hands down the best, most dependable wireless router I've ever owned. It just works.

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So your mom has an M.S. in Computer Science from Stanford?


not quite. Neurosurgeon from Stanford, MD.

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not quite. Neurosurgeon from Stanford, MD.

So... less relevant than the Google VP then?
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If you simply plug an external hard drive into an airport extreme, you can use it for wireless backups. I've never used a time capsule, so I can't say that it is just as easy, but it is definitely easy to set up.
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So your mom has an M.S. in Computer Science from Stanford?


Trying to be cute and scathingly sarcastic at the same time but you failed.
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I thought it was pretty good.

Marissa Meyer is a smart woman, don't see why anyone needs to be dismissive of her opinion, especially when it's a complimentary one.

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not quite. Neurosurgeon from Stanford, MD.

Okay. So her primary field of academic study does NOT deal with the topic at hand. Thanks for confirming that.
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Mayer also has posted the odd Instagram pics using an iPhone 4. I guess, unlike Microsoft, it's not frowned upon at Google to *iDolize* the competition.
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Mayer added, "So, for Christmas, I asked for an Airport Extreme and 2 Airport Expresses"

How else could a multi-millionaire worth $300m get hold of those were it not for good ole Santa?

Still, she's easier on the eyes than Schmidt:



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Actually, there is one thing...QoS. With more and more people switching to VoIP, we need some way to keep voice traffic prioritized over everything else. And the AirPort Extreme doesn't allow for that.

I think all routers should be made with QoS, not just for VoIP but auto-prioritise all traffic. Some D-Link routers seem to have intelligent QoS, which auto-prioritises traffic based on type:

http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=548

That should be standard in all routers to prevent congestion.
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I thought it was pretty good.

Marissa Meyer is a smart woman, don't see why anyone needs to be dismissive of her opinion, especially when it's a complimentary one.

That's true and a good point. But who cares for it to make a headline? Just because she has a title at Google, her opinion counts? Lets hear what Robert Mugabe or Kim Jong-un? My IT guy at work likes Apple, should I quote him?

I just dont know why it makes the news? Its like local TV news articles in the States, mostly pointless. I saw a article about a deer running in front of a police cruiser once. News?
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Only surprised that someone of this stature in the industry had not tried the product sooner. It was like she did no research before any purchases of such devices in the past. Very upper management fixed thinking displayed.
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...While NPD hasn't published recent market share figures for WiFi routers, but its last public figures from mid 2008 indicated Apple's share of the router market was 10.6 percent, larger than the Mac's share of PC sales at the time. Apple was reported to be in fourth place behind Cisco's Linksys brand, D-Link, and Netgear, which Mayer reported issues with, despite its reputed "customization" options.

I am sure Google has collected enough data with its Streetview fleet that it knows precisely what the market share statistics are for all the router brands.
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No, but she once stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
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Great. Now we're going to have Google routers that are open to allow you to do what you want with it. They will give it to you for free, you just have to agree to let Google pilfer through every bit sent and received through it.

That is right after Google steals the design and the code from Apple.
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Like everyone else, I've tried most of the Linksys, and D-Link various models and end up with poor signals as well as disconnections issues. I just couldn't get anything reliable with one or the other.

Today, I've got the same setup described in her comment. Everything works flawlessly. No drops, great performance even with close to a dozen devices running more or less at the same time over the network.

Another perfect example of "it just works".
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Just because she has a title at Google, her opinion counts? Lets hear what Robert Mugabe or Kim Jong-un?

In communist Korea, router shares you.

It is a common practice for journalists to talk about mundane things that recognised people do and I agree that it doesn't hold much weight. This case has slightly more strength than the usual 'Eva Longoria uses L'oreal so you should think about it' type of endorsement due to the fact that Marissa will rely on internet products for her important job but I'd put it in the same category. I wonder what shampoo she uses.
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On Amazon.com's hourly sales, the Airport Extreme continues to sell more than any Android tablet (Kindle Fire not included).

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Some people complain that you need an app to setup an Apple router; that the browser interface is good enough. It may be "good enough" but their AirPort Utility on Windows, Mac OS and iOS make is so much better, especially if you have multiple routers.

I totally agree with you, I've never understood that complaint. Surely a web browser is an app in itself? I know that especially with HTML 5 web pages seem to be increasingly like apps, but I've yet to see anything as good as a well written standalone application.

On the router front, I'm very happy with my Time Capsule, but it's the Airport Express that I'm most pleased with. I was looking for a way to get music to the aux port of my stereo, and thought that would be the simplest way, and boy was it. With the Apple setup application it was up and running in no time, and I love that all iDevices on my network see it and make it available to stream to. As with all things Apple, it's the end to end usability that makes it.
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That's true and a good point. But who cares for it to make a headline? Just because she has a title at Google, her opinion counts? Lets hear what Robert Mugabe or Kim Jong-un? My IT guy at work likes Apple, should I quote him?

I just dont know why it makes the news? Its like local TV news articles in the States, mostly pointless. I saw a article about a deer running in front of a police cruiser once. News?

Yes, because she is a high ranking and recognised personality in the world of technology, working for a major Apple competitor, her opinion, when it is of Apple's technology products is one that is worth reporting on. Not headline news of a broadsheet, but this is AppleInsider, not a broadsheet; this stuff is interesting to many and generates discussion.

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Even our Mac allergic MIS guy uses Airport wifi in his facility. This guy religiously hates Macs, but loves the Airports. If only he could take that one extra step into the light.
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I just wish they'd build one with 8 LAN ports. But of course, Apple would never do such a thing. Form must always win over function.
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I just wish they'd build one with 8 LAN ports. But of course, Apple would never do such a thing. Form must always win over function.

I think 8 is form over function. It needs at least 32 Ethernet ports. It's not like those ports cost more than a few cents each. (see what I did there?)

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Like everyone else, I've tried most of the Linksys, and D-Link various models and end up with poor signals as well as disconnections issues. I just couldn't get anything reliable with one or the other....

Another perfect example of "it just works".

I'm also a happy Airport Extreme convert.

I definitely don't miss resetting my router every few weeks. Unplug, wait 30 seconds... plug in again
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