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post #41 of 44
1/31/12 at 9:03pm
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Originally Posted by Mikeb85 View Post

First off, Apple has also borrowed from Android (notification center, cloud sync, full multitasking - were things Android had first).

'Android' is a handset maker?

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Second, consumers like competition and choice

So when handset makers that use Android are actually competing instead of just copying, we'll talk.

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And yes, consumers don't like big, bad corporations - look at how much love Microsoft gets.

So they hate Google and you think that's a reason for them to be kept around?

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Apple would do much better to consolidate their position, make a 4+ inch 'flagship' iPhone in addition to the 3.5 inch models, increase functionality (maybe widgets? Office suite? Turn by turn navigation included? LTE?), and drop the lawsuits.

And you're exactly like the millions of other people who think they have the solution. Notice how none of you are in charge of Apple. Also notice how well they're doing by not listening to you.

I guess that could be a coincidence, but

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and a Windows 8 PC/Phone ecosystem backed by more or less the entire rest of the industry waiting to snatch customers.

GOOD. ACTUAL INNOVATION. Microsoft did good for the SECOND time in their existence. I'd welcome a surge in Windows Phone 7 taking share from Android.

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take the high road

"Eh, we've decided to just let people copy us wholesale. Who cares. It's not like we have the legal right to protect the stuff we make. Actually, screw that. We're done making stuff. Since we should apparently not care if it's stolen, we just won't make any stuff to steal."

PhilBoogie
That's Google alright. For a stupid company they sure do dumb things.
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post #42 of 44
1/31/12 at 9:25pm
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

"Eh, we've decided to just let people copy us wholesale. Who cares. It's not like we have the legal right to protect the stuff we make. Actually, screw that. We're done making stuff. Since we should apparently not care if it's stolen, we just won't make any stuff to steal."


There's plenty of Rolex knock-offs, but people still buy Rolex's. There's Prada knockoffs, but people still buy Prada. If Apple has a good product and image, people will want the real thing.

Apple's goal should be to increase market share, not a crusade against Android. If they stop Samsung from selling Android handsets, Samsung has Bada and Windows Phone. If they stop HTC from selling Android handsets, HTC has Windows or they could create their own (WebOS with HTC Sense?). The burden of proof for actually calling Android a knock-off (and having a judge agree) is too great, and has too little upside.

Apple is Apple, everyone knows what the real thing is, if someone wants an iPhone, they'll buy it, not an equally expensive Android.
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post #43 of 44
2/1/12 at 6:37am
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There's plenty of Rolex knock-offs, but people still buy Rolex's. There's Prada knockoffs, but people still buy Prada. If Apple has a good product and image, people will want the real thing.

Every sale of a fake is a lost sale of an original.

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If they stop Samsung from selling Android handsets, Samsung has Bada and Windows Phone. If they stop HTC from selling Android handsets, HTC has Windows or they could create their own (WebOS with HTC Sense?).

GOOD. LET THEM. The idea isn't to remove all competitors. That's nonsense. The idea is to remove from the market the people that think they can steal code wholesale and UI elements with virtually no change.

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Apple is Apple, everyone knows what the real thing is

Not Samsung's lawyers. Not tens of millions of consumers.
PhilBoogie
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post #44 of 44
2/3/12 at 11:45pm
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Every sale of a fake is a lost sale of an original.

No it's not. When you're talking of real fakes, they're generally purchased for such a small fraction of the real price that the buyer couldn't afford the real thing. A high end Android smartphone is just as expensive (and sometimes more so) than an Apple smartphone.

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GOOD. LET THEM. The idea isn't to remove all competitors. That's nonsense. The idea is to remove from the market the people that think they can steal code wholesale and UI elements with virtually no change.

How could they possibly steal closed-source code? Furthermore, Android is open-source, so if there was stolen code in there it would be exposed. Fact is, Android is based on Linux, iOS on BSD, Android runs alot of Java, iOS doesn't, etc...

UI elements - are generally universal - Apple didn't invent grids of application icons, although Apple did take Android's notification bar (and I don't fault them for it, but let's be real).

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Not Samsung's lawyers. Not tens of millions of consumers.

Yes, I'm sure everyone who's bought a Samsung or HTC handset didn't notice that there's no Apple logo. Or that there's huge widgets on the home screen.

While there are some Samsung products which have a similar appearance to Apple products, HTC produces some very distinctive products - which would never be mistaken for an Apple product.
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