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CES: Acer unveils new cloud service, copies Apple's iCloud presentation

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In promoting its new AcerCloud service, Acer chose to mimic not only Apple's iCloud, but also directly lifted a slide Apple used to introduce iCloud in a keynote presentation last year.

Acer's "blatant iCloud ripoff was highlighted by The Verge, which noticed the similarities between Acer's promotional image and Apple's keynote slide. The slide in question relates to Acer's "PicStream" service, which has similar rules to Apple's PhotoStream functionality in iCloud.

Both graphics represent their specific services by showing a cloud floating above with content stored in it, and the words "30 days" written. Down below, a trio of devices are shown with photos pushed to them from the cloud.

Any differences between the two images are minimal, and all three show photos being pushed from the cloud to a smartphone, tablet and PC. The offending graphic can still be found in Acer's official press release for AcerCloud.

"Copycat" tactics by the competition have been a major issue for Apple, which has taken to filing patent infringement suits against companies it feels are stealing its ideas. For example, Apple has argued in court filings that Samsung's smartphones and tablets "blatantly imitate" both the software and hardware of Apple's iPhone and iPad.




Acer attempted to call out Apple for starting a so-called "patent war" last July. The company's chairman, JT Wang, accused Apple of being an instigator in taking patent infringement suits against rivals like HTC and Motorola.

Acer was once king of the netbook market, which collapsed thanks, in part, to the release of Apple's iPad in 2010. However, the company has publicly stated its committed to netbooks, particularly in emerging markets.
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"It's not identical, they reversed the position of the phone and computer!"

They DID outright steal Apple's Wi-Fi icon, though.

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copy a slide is easy ... but invest in the Data Center to support this service is another story ...
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now unless someone has some info about this being a basic format this is outright slavish.

minor, but still slavish.
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Is it just me, or did they even use Garamond for their font?
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Innovation thru imitation!
Apple should be proud of the flattery.

/s
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copy a slide is easy ... but invest in the Data Center to support this service is another story ...

That'll be easier too. They won't be supporting nearly as many customers.
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Is it just me, or did they even use Garamond for their font?

It's just you. Serifs, different thicknesses of the lines...
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Well, they say it is the sincerest form of flattery
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copy a slide is easy ... but invest in the Data Center to support this service is another story ...


they will just use Azure like Apple
post #11 of 83
There is a difference between the two. One looks classy, the other looks like it's been created by a 3 year old.
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Oh, Acer. You're getting into services now??? Where's your billion-dollar data center?

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OMG you're all such fanboys! First Apple patented the rectangle and now they're patenting the powerpoint slide! How many ways can you make a powerpoint slide? The only logical way is with a cloud icon above three devices, each with a different time/content limit!

jk... but I bet someone will say that somewhere!
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It's just you. Serifs, different thicknesses of the lines...

Garamond is a Serif font. Note that I'm not suggesting they copied the font on Apple's slide, just that they used the font that was, for decades, associated with Apple:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typogra...Apple_Garamond
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Acer was once king of the netbook market, which collapsed thanks, in part, to the release of Apple's iPad in 2010.

I thought ASUS was always the king of the netbook market?...anyway

I am so sick of these SHAMELESS, CLUELESS, COPYCATS!!!
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Oh, Acer. You're getting into services now??? Where's your billion-dollar data center?

With that mention, what is Apple actually using theirs for? I've seen various mentions of Apple using servers belonging to Amazon and Microsoft for their cloud services, and never really clearly understood what the NC facility was intended for. Perhaps the main services are streaming from Apple NC, with Microsoft and Amazon supplying backup or additional storage?
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Oh, Acer. You're getting into services now??? Where's your billion-dollar data center?

They don't need a dedicated one because they will only sell a few laptops, netbooks and what other pieces of junk they can manage to ship as oppose to Apple's Gazillion number of iDevices.
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Patent litigation lawyer: "I'd like to introduce Exhibit F, PicCloud slide from Acer..."

Jury: "We're done. GUILTY!"
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Wow, just wow.... seriously? If you can't innovate, imitate!
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With that mention, what is Apple actually using theirs for? I've seen various mentions of Apple using servers belonging to Amazon and Microsoft for their cloud services, and never really clearly understood what the NC facility was intended for. Perhaps the main services are streaming from Apple NC, with Microsoft and Amazon supplying backup or additional storage?

Check this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQNQkJGwxsE
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directly lifted a slide Apple used to introduce iCloud in a keynote presentation last year.

Surely "directly lifted" would mean that they used it as is from Apple, which they haven't.
I'm sure a majority of designers would have come up with this layout without seeing the Apple version.
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Check this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQNQkJGwxsE

Appreciate that. I remember it from the original presentation. I'm still unclear on how Amazon and Microsoft fit in with Apple's data centers. Are any cloud services supplied directly from Amazon servers for instance? Perhaps that's never been acknowledged in the first place as I can't find Apple comments about it.
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Haha, truly pathetic. The saddest part is that both slides are confusing and look silly. WTF is this cloud with pictures in it? What do the numbers mean? Haven't the presenters heard of any of the gazillion photo sharing services, or do they find it convenient to pretend they haven't? If you're gonna steal something, at least steal something worth showing.
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copy a slide is easy ... but invest in the Data Center to support this service is another story ...

You are assuming Acer plans for it to work properly.
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Originally Posted by macinthe408 View Post

Patent litigation lawyer: "I'd like to introduce Exhibit F, PicCloud slide from Acer..."

Jury: "We're done. GUILTY!"

Actually, it would most likely be a copyright lawyer.
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Surely "directly lifted" would mean that they used it as is from Apple, which they haven't.
I'm sure a majority of designers would have come up with this layout without seeing the Apple version.

LOL. This clearly is a copyright infringement. It is a derivative work based off Apple's original presentation. If George Harrison can be held liable for copyright infringement over, "My Sweet Lord," this is a slam dunk. Unlike Harrison, I doubt Acer can claim it didn't see Steve's presentation.
post #27 of 83
Take the "r" and place it between the "A" and the "c" and pronounce the "c" as a soft "c" and that's what Acer really is.
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Wow, I'm an idiot. Why was any of this surprising to me?

Acer bought Gateway bought eMachines: the company behind the eOnethe most slavish iMac rip-off in human history. The eOne led to a lawsuit from Apple which led to eMachines' bankruptcy and subsequent purchase.

Climb back up the ladder and now we have Acer doing the same thing. Of course they're going to be doing direct copies.

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post #29 of 83
LMAO! Can you say LAWSUIT?
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Appreciate that. I remember it from the original presentation. I'm still unclear on how Amazon and Microsoft fit in with Apple's data centers. Are any cloud services supplied directly from Amazon servers for instance? Perhaps that's never been acknowledged in the first place as I can't find Apple comments about it.

I think they just help to reduce latency and bandwidth, especially at busy times.
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Innovation thru imitation!
Apple should be proud of the flattery.

/s

By 'proud' you mean, like a lion who works hard for a meal only to be attacked by a pack of hyenas who want to get in on the action without actually having to do any work.

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

They DID outright steal Apple's Wi-Fi icon, though.

Stop exaggerating¡ Their icon points the other way.

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With that mention, what is Apple actually using theirs for? I've seen various mentions of Apple using servers belonging to Amazon and Microsoft for their cloud services, and never really clearly understood what the NC facility was intended for. Perhaps the main services are streaming from Apple NC, with Microsoft and Amazon supplying backup or additional storage?

apple will have the master copy of icloud data and Azure and Amazon will have copies of it because they have dozens of data centers each and will be closer to the customer. your master copy goes to apple, replicated to amazon/ms and when you access the data it will be from a copy closes to you. for the schema and the programming it's all azure. i forgot the technical reason but i read somewhere that it's the best implementation for something like this
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I think they just help to reduce latency and bandwidth, especially at busy times.

If they are it isn't working.
iCloud takes forever to do anything for me and the email crashes sometimes five times in a single session due to latency issues.
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Innovation thru imitation!
Apple should be proud of the flattery.

/s

Samsung makes billions with this strategy.
They have become the most successful Android vendor thanks to copying Apple.

Why wouldn't other OEM companies do the same? Its their culture.
HTC/Samsung and other companies in South Korea would be nothing if western companies did not outsource production to them.
post #36 of 83
Why does everyone copy Apple. i this and i that. Android devices looks much the same as the ipads. Now we have Acer copying iCloud.

Doesn't anyone apart from Apple have a original thought.
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This requires Windows ... sorry, not interested.
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Frackin' pathetic.
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Originally Posted by Evilution View Post

Surely "directly lifted" would mean that they used it as is from Apple, which they haven't.
I'm sure a majority of designers would have come up with this layout without seeing the Apple version.

And, and I am sure you must be one of those gifted ones!
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No... no... you see, the trolls, whiners, and copyist will simply say that Apple doesn't own the patent on blue backgrounds, white text, position of identical graphics, or grids, or <insert self-fabricated whining item here>, etc...

Personally, this explains why pre-Apple "innovations" where just the same beige-box mentality and no one had a clue how to do anything.
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