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Apple climbed to third place among U.S. PC vendors in the fourth quarter of 2011 as the rest of the top five vendors saw shipments decline year over year as part of a worldwide contraction in the PC market, according to a new analysis.

Research group Gartner released preliminary PC shipment results for the fourth quarter of 2011. According to the report, Apple saw 20.7 percent growth of Mac sales in the U.S. market from the year ago quarter, pushing it past Toshiba and Acer to take the No. 3 spot behind HP and Dell. Its estimated 2.1 million Mac shipments during the period gave it an 11.6 share of the market.

Faced with the possibility that HP would spin off its PC business, customers shied away from the world's largest PC maker in the fourth quarter, causing a 26.1 percent decline year over year. Shipments fell from 5.6 million in the last quarter of 2010 to 4.1 million in the most recent quarter. HP's new CEO Meg Whitman worked to resolve the uncertainty by announcing in October that the company would keep its PC business, but the damage appeared to have already been done.

The firm estimates second-place Dell had a 4.5 percent decline in shipments from 4.2 million in the year ago quarter to 4.0 million in the most recent quarter. Oddly enough, the company still gained market share as the overall PC market in the U.S. saw a larger decline of 5.9 percent.

Toshiba's shipments declined from 1.97 million a year ago to 1.93 in the December quarter, leaving it with 10.7 percent market share. Acer came in fifth after an 11.4 percent decline in shipments.


Credit: Gartner


Weak holiday shipments around the world resulted in a 1.4 percent decline year over year in the global PC market. Shipments totaled 92.2 million units during the most recent quarter, compared to 93.5 million last year. HP remained the No. 1 vendor worldwide, despite a 16.2 percent drop in shipments. Lenovo climbed to second place with 23 percent growth. Dell, Acer and Asus rounded out the top five PC vendors.

“While economic uncertainty in Western Europe had an effect on consumer PC shipments, expectations of a healthier economic outlook in North America could not stimulate consumer PC demand in that region," principal analyst Mikako Kitagawa said. "The healthy professional PC market as well as growth in emerging markets could not compensate for the weaknesses in mature markets, with overall growth still negative.”

Gartner attributed some of the slowdown in overall PC sales to a lack of consumer interest in Intel's new ultrabook initiative. The firm did, however, note that 2012 will be a "big debut stage" for the category, based on the range of ultrabooks on display at the Consumer Electronics Show this week.

“Ultrabooks were quietly introduced into the market during the 4Q11 holiday season,” Kitagawa said. “Ultrabooks didn’t seem to draw consumers’ attention. Consumers had very little understanding and awareness of ultrabooks, and only a small group of consumers was willing to pay the price premium for such models."

Analysts also warned that the negative impact of hard-disk drive (HDD) shortages brought about by floods in Thailand last October may not have been fully realized in the fourth quarter. They expect a "major impact" will materialize in the first half of 2012 and could potentially continue throughout the year. The shortages are expected to affect PC shipment growth during 2012.

For its part, Apple is not expected to be seriously affected by the Thailand HDD shortage. Inventory data provided to AppleInsider last month revealed few of the strains that the rest of the industry is experiencing. The growing success of the MacBook Air, which eschews an HDD in favor of a solid-state drive, has been viewed as one factor that helped Apple avoid shortages.
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Where's slap-happy? I can't wait to see him explain how this information proves beyond any doubt that Apple is doomed.
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Let's frame these numbers a different way.

Subtract Apple's sales from the 4Q2011 and 4Q2010 totals: the respective ex-Apple totals are 15.855M and 17.343M. Basically, the Windows PC industry went -8.6%, while Apple had +20.7%.

Apple is definitely doomed.

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Where's slap-happy? I can't wait to see him explain how this information proves beyond any doubt that Apple is doomed.

Well he say that Apple is "under 10" and number 3 is definitely under 10.
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They're blaming the flooding in Thailand (as is Microsoft) but surely they should have all the components they need sitting around from all those PCs they didn't sell last quarter when sales declined "because of the economy", right?
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These don't include iPads right? I'd imagine the number to be higher if it did.
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This should shut the folks at OSNews up. For years they claimed that unless Apple licenses Mac OS it'll lose market share and go broke!

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These don't include iPads right? I'd imagine the number to be hire if it did.

Of course. Some estimates put iPad sales as high as 22 M in the 4th quarter:
http://www.t3.com/news/apple-ipad-2-...on-units-in-q4

That would make Apple the leader by far. However, I don't buy it. I don't really think that iPads should be included in computer sales for most purposes.
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These don't include iPads right? I'd imagine the number to be hire if it did.

No, these numbers do not include iPads. The industry would go apesh1t if Apple was listed as the number one computer seller in the world.
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By the basic definition of what and computer is and what it does. The iPad is most certainly a computer. I think at this point the industry isn't ready to accept that notion. Because the iPad breaks a lot of the conventions of the traditional computer.

I believe in the near future, most computers people use will be more like the iPad.

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That would make Apple the leader by far. However, I don't buy it. I don't really think that iPads should be included in computer sales for most purposes.
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Burying their head in the sand and ignoring where the hockey puck is going.

Half of the devices at CES are wireless devices intended to be used with the iPhone and iPad. Speakers, printers, and hard drives.

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No, these numbers do not include iPads. The industry would go apesh1t if Apple was listed as the number one computer seller in the world.
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Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post

By the basic definition of what and computer is and what it does. The iPad is most certainly a computer. I think at this point the industry isn't ready to accept that notion. Because the iPad breaks a lot of the conventions of the traditional computer.

I believe in the near future, most computers people use will be more like the iPad.

How can they pioneer a new category of mobile device and have it be considered in an old category. They have in reality somewhere upwards of 75% of the tablet market. That's just awesome.
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Who in their right mind would by a dell/HP/ms pos? Ugh!
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Who in their right mind would by a dell/HP/ms pos? Ugh!

I am on my sixth Dell machine. The only problem I have ever had is a broken keyboard. I have not always purchased mid to high level computers too. A pretty good track record for a pos.

Made 500% on Dell stock in the late 90's. Plenty more money left to buy more Dell machines.

Apple units- I will pass.
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I am on my sixth Dell machine. The only problem I have ever had is a broken keyboard. I have not always purchased mid to high level computers too. A pretty good track record for a pos.

Made 500% on Dell stock in the late 90's. Plenty more money left to buy more Dell machines.

Apple units- I will pass.

I used to buy nothing but Dell's, right up until between 2005 and 2007, they went to crap. Whenever I had a problem prior to 2004 or 2005, Icould talk to a knowledgable American tech. After that, I got transferred to Pakistan or India and had difficulties understanding the person at the other end. Additionally, my high end laptops and desktops started having more and more hardware failures. In 2008, I simply had enough of having motherboard replacements, fan failures, keyboard failures, etc... Switched to Mac and haven't look back. I have bought numerous Macbooks, Macbook Pro's, iphones, ipads and iMac's, and not a single one has had a problem. Not one! Wonder why Apple is #1 in customer satisfaction?
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Originally Posted by cvaldes1831 View Post

Let's frame these numbers a different way.

Subtract Apple's sales from the 4Q2011 and 4Q2010 totals: the respective ex-Apple totals are 15.855M and 17.343M. Basically, the Windows PC industry went -8.6%, while Apple had +20.7%.

Apple is definitely doomed.


Is that right? My calculations ended up with a 16.82% drop in non-Mac PCs YoY.


edit: I made a mistake...

4Q11: 17,929,764 total PCs - 2,074,800 Mac PCs = 15,854,964

4Q10: 19,061,005 total PCs- 1,718,400 Mac PCs = 17,342,605

Difference = -1,487,641 = -8.6%

You're right. I forget to remove Apple's 2010 numbers from my original calculations.

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Wow! HP really took it on the chin last quarter. No surprise here. Apple has been doing really well with their lineup and Dell is gaining on HP. Of course Apple is still experiencing growth, but it will be interesting to see what happens when other's flood the market with Ultrabooks...
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Tablets aren't at all new. Apple is just the first company to do it right.

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How can they pioneer a new category of mobile device and have it be considered in an old category. They have in reality somewhere upwards of 75% of the tablet market. That's just awesome.
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I am on my sixth Dell machine. The only problem I have ever had is a broken keyboard. I have not always purchased mid to high level computers too. A pretty good track record for a pos.

Fail!

If you had gone the right way about this and saved up the money you spent on all those Dell machines you would almost be able to afford a Mac Book by now.

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From 1999 to today I've owned four Apple computers.

iMac G3 from 1999 - 2004
PowerBook G4 from 2003 - 2009
PowerMac G5 from 2004 - 2009
MacBook Pro from 2009 to today.


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I am on my sixth Dell machine. The only problem I have ever had is a broken keyboard. I have not always purchased mid to high level computers too. A pretty good track record for a pos.
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These don't include iPads right? I'd imagine the number to be hire if it did.

Never saw that. Thanks, a new one. Now I need to incorporate it. I guess it is a brain thing, as they both sound alike and one writes the other one. Happens to me too.
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so total PC sales in 2011 were 352.8 million... apple sold around 16million of those?

like steve job said
"The war with Microsoft is over, Microsoft won."

let it go
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I remember there was, in the ancient times of computer industry, a quote which was something like :

HP invents, DEC sells, and IBM makes profit

That quote is now to be rephrased as : Apple invents, sells and makes profit. The competitors just watch their market share, sales ans profits shrink.
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so total PC sales in 2011 were 352.8 million... apple sold around 16million of those?

like steve job said
"The war with Microsoft is over, Microsoft won."

let it go

We've already gone over this before, but here we go again.

Simple example: let's say Company A is selling their device at $600 and making $200 in profit per unit. Meanwhile, Company B is selling their device at $200, but making $20 in profit per unit. Company B sells five times more units than Company A. Who is making more money? Company B has 83% marketshare by unit sales (5 out of six units sold), but Company A has 67% of the industry's profits.

Despite Apple's modest marketshare in unit sales, they are actually grabbing way more of the PC industry's profits. This is particularly pronounced in the higher end of the PC market: Apple books something like >90% of the $1000+ PC market.

It's the same with almost every other market that Apple participates in. Apple's iPhone profits are grabbing something like >65% of the entire smartphone industry's profits. Apple's dominance in the MP3 player market and media tablet market have them grabbing more than three-quarters of those markets' profits.

HP, Acer, etc. are selling a lot more PCs than Apple, yet their profit margins are razor thin.
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From 1999 to today I've owned four Apple computers.

iMac G3 from 1999 - 2004
PowerBook G4 from 2003 - 2009
PowerMac G5 from 2004 - 2009
MacBook Pro from 2009 to today.


Lombard G3 ( Back side cache died )
Ti (right hinge cracked)
Powerbook G4 1.67 ( got old )
Macbook Pro C2D 2.5 (still working)
iMac 24 C2D 3.06 (glass screen is a joke, Studio took it back)
Macbook air 1st Gen ( POS, Studio took it back
Macbook Air Nvidia 320M (still working)

work pays for my MACs since 1999 - some do ok, some have been very expensive crap.
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so total PC sales in 2011 were 352.8 million... apple sold around 16million of those?

like steve job said
"The war with Microsoft is over, Microsoft won."

let it go

1) Jobs never said that.

2) If he did it would mean nothing to Apple's competition with HP, Dell and other OEMs.

3) What Jobs stated in 1997 was "The battle for the desktop is over. And we lost."

4) For MS to win doesn't mean Apple has loss unless Apple is playing the wrong game... which they were. Apple has been competing against other PC makers and guess what.. they have won quarter after quarter, year after year as the others have lost.

5) Only an idiot would take a 15yo quote seriously. So much has changed since 1997 in the way desktop computers interact with users. Besides MS playing catch up in most areas of the OS open web standards have severely depleted any lock-in edge with the consumer MS had. Just look at where IE is today compared to 1997.

6) If you want to be technical compared to Apple, MS has lost a lot. They've lost mindshare. They've lost marketshare. They've lost number positions from software to services to economic positions. They are still a very profitable company, but they aren't as profitable as Apple, they aren't as popular as Apple, they aren't as desirable, even their browser engine isn't used on as many devices as the one Apple created despite IE now being competent.

7) So what was your point again? Apple sold less than 20 million complete PCs in a year and took 40% of the world's PC profits but they are a lower in your eyes because MS sells their OS for any PC (including Macs)? Good one¡

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We've already gone over this before, but here we go again.

Simple example: let's say Company A is selling their device at $600 and making $200 in profit per unit. Meanwhile, Company B is selling their device at $200, but making $20 in profit per unit. Company B sells five times more units than Company A. Who is making more money? Company B has 83% marketshare by unit sales (5 out of six units sold), but Company A has 67% of the industry's profits.

Despite Apple's modest marketshare in unit sales, they are actually grabbing way more of the PC industry's profits. This is particularly pronounced in the higher end of the PC market: Apple books something like >90% of the $1000+ PC market.

It's the same with almost every other market that Apple participates in. Apple's iPhone profits are grabbing something like >65% of the entire smartphone industry's profits. Apple's dominance in the MP3 player market and media tablet market have them grabbing more than three-quarters of those markets' profits.

HP, Acer, etc. are selling a lot more PCs than Apple, yet their profit margins are razor thin.

We've already gone over this before, but here we go again.

Company B sells 10 400 dollar computer with 10 dollar profit (410 total per unit). Company A sells 1 700 computer (10% market) with 300 profit (1k total per unit)

total profit
B = 100
A= 300

company A has 75% of profit

total goods bought from related industries
B = 4,000 (400x10)
A = 700 (700X1)

now take that and do it X 348million units ranging from 299 to 600 dollars - and you at the tip

Now dig down

like Company B provides jobs to 10 folds company A so more people can buy holmes, send their kids to school, eat at a restaurant (just HP and microsoft suport 364,000 employees)

profit is what is left over, not the wealth that has been generated and distributed - profit is not the only indicator of an industry worth.
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Never saw that. Thanks, a new one. Now I need to incorporate it. I guess it is a brain thing, as they both sound alike and one writes the other one. Happens to me too.

Lol wow. Worst typo I've ever done.
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1) Jobs never said that.

2) If he did it would mean nothing to Apple's competition with HP, Dell and other OEMs.

3) What Jobs stated in 1997 was "The battle for the desktop is over. And we lost."

4) For MS to win doesn't mean Apple has loss unless Apple is playing the wrong game... which they were. Apple has been competing against other PC makers and guess what.. they have won quarter after quarter, year after year as the others have lost.

5) Only an idiot would take a 15yo quote seriously. So much has changed since 1997 in the way desktop computers interact with users. Besides MS playing catch up in most areas of the OS open web standards have severely depleted any lock-in edge with the consumer MS had. Just look at where IE is today compared to 1997.

6) If you want to be technical compared to Apple, MS has lost a lot. They've lost mindshare. They've lost marketshare. They've lost number positions from software to services to economic positions. They are still a very profitable company, but they aren't as profitable as Apple, they aren't as popular as Apple, they aren't as desirable, even their browser engine isn't used on as many devices as the one Apple created despite IE now being competent.

7) So what was your point again? Apple sold less than 20 million complete PCs in a year and took 40% of the world's PC profits but they are a lower in your eyes because MS sells their OS for any PC (including Macs)? Good one¡


my point is simple, if a platform sells 348 million units and another sells 16million there is no battle - regardless of what your SALES market share is 10, 11, 12% in one year - it is running a deficit of 348 million installed units a year.

I was comparing windows to osx - exactly, this ended back in 1997.

never said it was lower in my eyes - a computer is a tool just like my drafting pencil, value is how well it does the job - I was pointing out a mathematical reality.
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my point is simple, if a platform sells 348 million units and another sells 16million there is no battle - regardless of what your SALES market share is 10, 11, 12% in one year - it is running a deficit of 348 million installed units a year.

I was comparing windows to osx - exactly, this ended back in 1997.

never said it was lower in my eyes - a computer is a tool just like my drafting pencil, value is how well it does the job - I was pointing out a mathematical reality.

If it ended in 1997 then why are you bringing it up in a thread about PC HW sales?

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I am on my sixth Dell machine. The only problem I have ever had is a broken keyboard. I have not always purchased mid to high level computers too. A pretty good track record for a pos.

Made 500% on Dell stock in the late 90's. Plenty more money left to buy more Dell machines.

Apple units- I will pass.

My company used to do the Dell thing. Machine was an extreme POS. I think that this pretty much applies to all manufacturers, as we have HP now, and the machines are just as unreliable. The breakdown is not the hardware, its the Microsoft OS. I believe that Dell once tried to get Apple to license OSX to them in 2009. Steve Jobs of course laughed at the thought, but Michael Dell at least knew where the weakness was in his offerings.
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If it ended in 1997 then why are you bringing it up in a thread about PC HW sales?

Because Soli, aggy is a nay-sayer. Because profits aren't as important to the point trying to be made, which is Apple isn't all that and a bag of chips in aggy's mind, so any statistic that challenges that is dismissed and suitable statistics supporting said viewpoint offered instead. Because only bigger is important, not better, because Detroit sells more cars than Mercedes.

And while I could offer a far more impressive stack of both Apple and Dell/HP/Toshiba issues than aggy - I won't bother because it's not necessary.

In the final analysis, Apple's success is what it is: well-planned, well-executed, agile operations. Michael Dell didn't get in to making PCs because he loved making PCs. He got into it because he saw a chance to make a boatload of money off a rising tide of consumer and business computer purchasing. He commoditized the PC, undersold the competition, and drove corporate uptake of the product line. So did HP/Compaq. Corporate purchasing is buoying up both Dell and HP against the sinking consumer PC market. And Dell/HP make up most of the Microsoft corporate platform as well since they supply not just desktops and laptops but servers as well. Corporate purchases are why Dell, HP and Microsoft still have room to make strategic adjustment to their consumer side. Whether they can do that successfully is still to be seen. Intel is trying to help, but unless some major off the wall marketing makes a consumer impact, its too little too late.

iPads have demonstrated to many that the vast majority of consumers don't need a big box (or laptop) sitting on a desk to do most if not all of what they need to do from a computing perspective, the power-freak geeks on this site notwithstanding *grin*.

PC sales I think will become death by a thousand cuts for most of the PC makers, unless they can come up with a viable highly accepted consumer tablet device. And there's no definitive proof thus far that anyone (other than Samsung) has this figured out.

Unless/until Apple overtakes Dell or HP (which would happen tomorrow if the tech media accepted the tablet format as an actual comuting platform rather than a "media consumption device"), aggy will be constantly on here proclaiming the fallacy of assuming Apple's superiority, due to - whatever statistics suit the need of the moment. However, aggy would also, even in the event of Apple supremacy, point out whatever flaws he could possibly come up with, because (coming full circle) he is a nay-sayer. And nay-sayers simply aren't happy unless they can say "nay".
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So nice not to be referred to as "other" anymore!
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Of course. Some estimates put iPad sales as high as 22 M in the 4th quarter:
http://www.t3.com/news/apple-ipad-2-...on-units-in-q4

That would make Apple the leader by far. However, I don't buy it. I don't really think that iPads should be included in computer sales for most purposes.

Then again a lot of the PC users are not renewing their last crap box and getting an iPad instead. So it is a complex relationship.

The iPad is going to have a knock on effect in the PC market. Vast numbers of PCs are simply sold every couple of years to the same people as they find it cheaper to buy new than pay a nerd to get their old one working again after several free virus apps have expired and their Windoze slows to a crawl. Those people now have an iPad and it will still work fine in a decade. The difference is they will pass it on to a family member and get a newer one because thy want one.

My point being every sale lost to one of the PC makers is multiple sales losses in the years to come so this decline will accelerate.
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This progress is in line with the Feds 'Beige Book' reporting. Seems that after small and medium businesses were polled across the country this quarter, not only is business getting better, it's getting better on the high end, with consumers buying the more expensive products. It was noted that the 'middle class', is confusing as they are not adhering to a 'middle class' budget. Given that's all Apple deals with gives credence to this new 3rd place positioning and a great sign for the economy.
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I am on my sixth Dell machine. The only problem I have ever had is a broken keyboard. I have not always purchased mid to high level computers too. A pretty good track record for a pos.

Made 500% on Dell stock in the late 90's. Plenty more money left to buy more Dell machines.

Apple units- I will pass.

Dude, you're getting a...

Huh? While I'm sure you're trolling this forum for some reason, this is relevant to Dell losing market share and Apple gaining how?
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Just bought my first Mac yesterday (a refurb MacBook Pro). So far so good! Love the screen on it. Now if I can just figure out how to find the folder structure. I did the migrate-to-mac thing like it recommended, and I have no idea where it put my stuff.
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Just bought my first Mac yesterday (a refurb MacBook Pro). So far so good! Love the screen on it. Now if I can just figure out how to find the folder structure. I did the migrate-to-mac thing like it recommended, and I have no idea where it put my stuff.

Welcome to the light

Tons of videos to watch at Apple's web site which help in most areas. If you are not on Lion it may be worth updating before learning else you'll be learning a version that's already been updated.

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From 1999 to today I've owned four Apple computers.

iMac G3 from 1999 - 2004
PowerBook G4 from 2003 - 2009
PowerMac G5 from 2004 - 2009
MacBook Pro from 2009 to today.

While I've handled and used hundreds of different ones for work, I've only had two as my main personal/home computer.

- "Graphite" G4 tower
- MacPro tower

The G4 is still running at the house of the person I gave it to four years ago (over 10 years!) and neither of them have had any serious problems or needed a motherboard replacement. I've gone through a lot of hard drives, and I've had a couple of graphics cards go belly up on me but all the Apple gear has been flawless.
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Just bought my first Mac yesterday (a refurb MacBook Pro). So far so good! Love the screen on it. Now if I can just figure out how to find the folder structure. I did the migrate-to-mac thing like it recommended, and I have no idea where it put my stuff.

click on the desktop. then hit Command-N.

voila, files and folders.
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