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Smartphones compatible with new high-speed 4G long-term evolution networks are projected to account for between 4 and 5 percent of global handset shipments in 2012, thanks in part to an expected LTE-capable iPhone from Apple.

Industry sources in Taiwan told DigiTimes that LTE smartphones could represent as much as 5 percent of global shipments this year, reaching between 25 million and 30 million units. It noted that while LTE devices are currently a small portion of cell phone sales, that is expected to change in the second half of the year, when Apple is rumored to join the fray.

"While Android (is) still dominating the LTE smartphone segment, Nokia and HTC have launched LTE Windows Phone models, and Apple and RIM are expected to release comparable models running on their own platforms in the second half of 2012, indicated the sources," the report said.

The report comes soon after Bloomberg said last Friday that Apple has begun production of an LTE-capable third-generation iPad model. That device is expected to launch in March.

But the iPhone will have to wait for an upgrade until the second half of 2012. Last year, Apple waited longer than usual to introduce a new smartphone, launching the iPhone 4S in October. A sixth-generation iPhone is expected to be launched about the same time in 2012.

Investment bank Morgan Stanley said last week that Apple's next iPhone may include a quad-mode chip from Qualcomm that would allow it to "run on all 3G and LTE network flavors. However, analyst Katy Huberty cautioned it was "too early to know for sure" if 4G LTE will in fact make it to Apple's sixth-generation iPhone.




Some were hopeful last year that the iPhone 4S would become Apple's first 4G LTE product. But in April, Apple Chief Executive Tim Cook said poor battery life and other issues with current LTE technology were not up to standard.

"The first generation of LTE chipsets force a lot of design compromises with the handset," Cook said last April, "and some of those we are just not willing to make."
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The real figure will depend on 4G deployment ....
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Can't wait for the even higher prices for LTE which we can't even tether for free to save money on home/travel internet access. 3g is frankly fine for how I use it, sick of paying more and more for cell service "false promises"

What's your bet, $10 more per month like the last time Apple moved the nation to the faster cell network (3g)?
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Meanwhile back at the legion of DOOOOM!
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But the iPhone will have to wait for an upgrade until the second half of 2012. Last year, Apple waited longer than usual to introduce a new smartphone, launching the iPhone 4S in October. A sixth-generation iPhone is expected to be launched about the same time in 2012.

But I thought... sorry, wrong thread.
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A sixth-generation iphone…

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Can't wait for the even higher prices for LTE which we can't even tether for free to save money on home/travel internet access. 3g is frankly fine for how I use it, sick of paying more and more for cell service "false promises"

What's your bet, $10 more per month like the last time Apple moved the nation to the faster cell network (3g)?

Networks did free upgrades to unlimited LTE if you had unlimited data already
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post #9 of 21
LTE is important because 3G is not good enough for video, tv, and movies online.
I am sure existing iPhone owners (including me) are willing to wait as long as apple wants them to
But patience of those who are on a fence is running out and that's bad for apple.
post #10 of 21
Apple will almost certainly implement 4G LTE in iPhone generation 6. There are an overwhelming number of reasons to do so.

3D Maps (Placebase, Poly9 and C3 Technologies) should come to fruition soon)
FaceTime
4G LTE is being rapidly deployed in many regions
IPv6 is slowly, finally becoming the default standard for new devices (after more than a decade)
Packet switching is far preferable to circuit switching for many reasons
Competition is becoming fierce and Apple doesn't have 4G phones for Verizon or Sprint (and CDMA is awful)
post #11 of 21
The site I want to read doesnt churn out the same news and rumours that thousands of other sites have, the site I want to read doesnt post fanatical rumours from idiotic sources. To make matters worse this churn effect often comes with a form of chinese whispers, led mainly by eccentric, traffic seeking ***h*** bloggers who are unable to distinguish fact and fiction, unable to pick up the phone to a public relations team to check a detail or more unbelievably spend the time to produce something thoughtful.
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Although it's really great for both Apple and the consumers to have a 4G LTE iPhone, this prediction does not look to realistic when we read how many markets that LTE is already deployed in. As of 12-15-11, Verizon Wireless has LTE in 120 markets {http://www.bgr.com/2011/12/14/verizon-to-launch-11-new-4g-lte-markets-on-december-15th/}; AT&T, as of 1-5-12, has 26 markets with LTE activated {http://9to5google.com/2012/01/05/att-expands-4g-lte-network-to-eleven-new-markets-including-new-york-los-angeles-and-san-fran/} and {http://www.bgr.com/2012/01/05/att-activates-4g-lte-in-11-new-markets-including-new-york-and-san-francisco/}; Sprint has announced 4 markets ready by the middle of this year {http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/01/05/sprint-ceo-announces-first-lte-markets-should-be-ready-to-go-by-mid-2012/} and {http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_Nextel#4G_LTE}; and the very next potential partner T-Mobile, while most of their consumers are hoping for a partnership with the Dish Network for a 4G LTE deployment, is carefully planning their deployment with what they currently have {http://www.tmonews.com/2011/12/editorial-why-t-mobile-should-and-will-deploy-lte-the-technical-edition/}. As we can see, although 3 out of the 4 are already carrying the iPhone, every major U.S. mobile network is trying to catch up to Verizon Wireless number of markets. With or without this game of catch-up, I don't see Apple releasing an 4G LTE iPhone due to the U.S. not having enough LTE markets by the time they release the next iPhone despite everyone's {both Apple and their consumers} desire. Even with us having the technology of the Qualcomm MDM 9600 for LTE devices {6600 for 3G (6610 being used in iPhone 4S} {http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10469951-92.html}, we still need a faster deployment rate from all of the Big 4 U.S. mobile phone carriers. The only one that I see who is coming through right now is Verizon Wireless.
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LTE is important because 3G is not good enough for video, tv, and movies online.

Fortunately, that's completely meaningless because iPhones are limited to 2GB a month. You couldn't do any of that even if you wished.

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Block of unreadable nonsense

I see you didn't pay attention when I told you how to do a link.

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Fortunately, that's completely meaningless because iPhones are limited to 2GB a month. You couldn't do any of that even if you wished.



I see you didn't pay attention when I told you how to do a link.

It's been a while since I posted; so do forgive Great One. Please tell me how to do so again through e-mail or a reply, so I can repost the FACTS.
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It's been a while since I posted; so do forgive Great One. Please tell me how to do so again through e-mail or a reply, so I can repost the FACTS.

[URL="The actual URL"]Here's how to do a proper link.[URL]

Just put a slash in front of the second URL. There's even a button for it to do that automatically when you post.

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Although it's really great for both Apple and the consumers to have a 4G LTE iPhone, this prediction does not look to realistic when we read how many markets that LTE is already deployed in. As of 12-15-11, Verizon Wireless has LTE in 120 markets [http://www.bgr.com/2011/12/14/verizo...cember-15th/]; AT&T, as of 1-5-12, has 26 markets with LTE activated [ http://9to5google.com/2012/01/05/att...and-san-fran/][/http://www.bgr.com/2012/01/05/att-activates-4g-lte-in-11-new-markets-including-new-york-and-san-francisco/]; Sprint has announced 4 markets ready by the middle of this year [http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/01...-by-mid-2012/][/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_Nextel#4G_LTE]; and the very next potential partner T-Mobile, while most of their consumers are hoping for a partnership with the Dish Network for a 4G LTE deployment, is carefully planning their deployment with what they currently have. [http://www.tmonews.com/2011/12/edito...ical-edition/] As we can see, although 3 out of the 4 are already carrying the iPhone, every major U.S. mobile network is trying to catch up to Verizon Wireless number of markets. With or without this game of catch-up, I don't see Apple releasing an 4G LTE iPhone due to the U.S. not having enough LTE markets by the time they release the next iPhone despite everyone's {both Apple and their consumers} desire. Even with us having the technology of the Qualcomm MDM 9600 for LTE devices {6600 for 3G (6610 being used in iPhone 4S)} [http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10469951-92.html], we still need a faster deployment rate from all of the Big 4 U.S. mobile phone carriers. The only one that I see who is coming through right now is Verizon Wireless.
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I don't think LTE is going to be a major selling point. Looking at it world wide, the limit amount of countries, the limited amount of carriers supporting it and the limited amount of coverage it's not going to make a ding in the universe. Let them roll it out when LTE is ready, not simply because they have access to a chip that meets their standards. For battery life and all other things they don't want to compromise.
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Although it's really great for both Apple and the consumers to have a 4G LTE iPhone, this prediction does not look to realistic when we read how many markets that LTE is already deployed in. As of 12-15-11, Verizon Wireless has LTE in 120 markets AT&T, as of 1-5-12, has 26 markets with LTE activated; Sprint has announced 4 markets ready by the middle of this year; and the very next potential partner T-Mobile, while most of their consumers are hoping for a partnership with the Dish Network for a 4G LTE deployment, is carefully planning their deployment with what they currently have. As we can see, although 3 out of the 4 are already carrying the iPhone, every major U.S. mobile network is trying to catch up to Verizon Wireless number of markets. With or without this game of catch-up, I don't see Apple releasing an 4G LTE iPhone due to the U.S. not having enough LTE markets by the time they release the next iPhone despite everyone's {both Apple and their consumers} desire. Even with us having the technology of the Qualcomm MDM 9600 for LTE devices {6600 for 3G (6610 being used in iPhone 4S)}, we still need a faster deployment rate from all of the Big 4 U.S. mobile phone carriers. The only one that I see who is coming through right now is Verizon Wireless.

Fixed.

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404's all over the place, but thanks for that cnet link.

I don't think LTE is going to be a major selling point. Looking at it world wide, the limit amount of countries, the limited amount of carriers supporting it and the limited amount of coverage it's not going to make a ding in the universe. Let them roll it out when LTE is ready, not simply because they have access to a chip that meets their standards. For battery life and all other things they don't want to compromise.

To avoid the 404's, you'll have to reload the webpages without the close bracket "]" at the end of the URLs.
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Although it's really great for both Apple and the consumers to have a 4G LTE iPhone, this prediction does not look to realistic when we read how many markets that LTE is already deployed in. As of 12-15-11, Verizon Wireless has LTE in 120 markets AT&T, as of 1-5-12, has 26 markets with LTE activated; Sprint has announced 4 markets ready by the middle of this year; and the very next potential partner T-Mobile, while most of their consumers are hoping for a partnership with the Dish Network for a 4G LTE deployment, is carefully planning their deployment with what they currently have. As we can see, although 3 out of the 4 are already carrying the iPhone, every major U.S. mobile network is trying to catch up to Verizon Wireless number of markets. With or without this game of catch-up, I don't see Apple releasing an 4G LTE iPhone due to the U.S. not having enough LTE markets by the time they release the next iPhone despite everyone's {both Apple and their consumers} desire. Even with us having the technology of the Qualcomm MDM 9600 for LTE devices {6600 for 3G (6610 being used in iPhone 4S)}, we still need a faster deployment rate from all of the Big 4 U.S. mobile phone carriers. The only one that I see who is coming through right now is Verizon Wireless.

Fixed.


Thx boss
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Apple likes the idea of producing one global iPhone, so regardless how the ROTW is doing with their LTE rollout Apple would not dare sit back and not release an LTE iPhone towards the end of this year. They don't rush things to market that aren't ready or copy other makers willy nilly, but the chipset size and battery issues look to be solved. There is absolutely no reason for Apple not to include LTE in the next iPhone and billion$ of reason to include it barring some revelation that LTE causes cancer. Wait...even that wouldn't stop it.

I'm hoping this is the case.

I need 4G connectivity and a 4" screen at least before I'd be willing to dump android completely.

My next phone will either be a GSIII or iP5. It really just depends on how much apple pushes the envelope on their next release.

I'm mostly indifferent to the exterior design. It could be exactly like the i4S or even a 3GS, but I do need more screen-estate and 4G connectivity.
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