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Things Republican debate audiences have cheered:
  • "Enhanced interrogation" (torture)
  • Texas executing the highest number of prisoners of any state
  • Uninsured people dying from lack of medical treatment
  • It's poor people's fault they don't have better jobs or jobs at all


Things Republican debate audiences have booed:
  • Ron Paul mentioning that it might be a good idea to understand the motives behind 9/11 (and that they aren't as simple or stupid as "they hate us for our freedom")
  • Gay active duty soldiers
  • The motherfucking Golden Rule of all things

Seriously. What the fuck? Sure, the usual suspects will spin this, maybe employing a no true Scotsman fallacy. But really, this is hateful behavior and so utterly anti-Christ.

Frank essentially agreed with the Gandhi quote (I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.) in one of the other threads. He clamored for a return to Christian values--of course, mainly of the entirely lip-service variety. Praying in schools would do nothing to help the poor and the sick. Having Jesus plastered everywhere in the public square (like it isn't anyway, can't drive two blocks without seeing a fucking cross) isn't going to do anything to help the poor and the sick. Restricting the rights and freedoms of those who disagree with the divinity of Jesus is not going to do anything to help the poor and the sick.

What will help? Groups of people working together to actually deal with the problems head on. Hmm...if only there were some way to help organize these groups of people...what if they were to collectively decide to pool society's resources and direct them to actually feed the hungry and treat the sick? But oh no, that would be socialism! Evil evil socialism!

We don't have very many Christians in America anymore. We have Free Market worshipers who have co-opted Christian imagery and used it as a facade to hide the underlying greed, selfishness, and nationalism that serves as the foundation of their new religion.

There will always be fraud, waste, and abuse. Minimizing that should certainly be a goal--but not the primary goal. The primary goal is to get the services to those who truly need them. Just as in the adage of "I would rather ten guilty men go free than one innocent man go to prison," I would rather ten people abuse the social safety net than one person who truly needs it fall through it.

This new breed of Free Market worshiper wants us all to walk on the tightrope without a net at all...while they shake the rope and take away our balancing rod.

 

“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” 
-Sagan
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“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” 
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post #2 of 9
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Originally Posted by BR View Post

Things Republican debate audiences have cheered:
  • "Enhanced interrogation" (torture)
  • Texas executing the highest number of prisoners of any state
  • Uninsured people dying from lack of medical treatment
  • It's poor people's fault they don't have better jobs or jobs at all


Things Republican debate audiences have booed:
  • Ron Paul mentioning that it might be a good idea to understand the motives behind 9/11 (and that they aren't as simple or stupid as "they hate us for our freedom")
  • Gay active duty soldiers
  • The motherfucking Golden Rule of all things

Seriously. What the fuck? Sure, the usual suspects will spin this, maybe employing a no true Scotsman fallacy. But really, this is hateful behavior and so utterly anti-Christ.

Frank essentially agreed with the Gandhi quote (I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.) in one of the other threads. He clamored for a return to Christian values--of course, mainly of the entirely lip-service variety. Praying in schools would do nothing to help the poor and the sick. Having Jesus plastered everywhere in the public square (like it isn't anyway, can't drive two blocks without seeing a fucking cross) isn't going to do anything to help the poor and the sick. Restricting the rights and freedoms of those who disagree with the divinity of Jesus is not going to do anything to help the poor and the sick.

What will help? Groups of people working together to actually deal with the problems head on. Hmm...if only there were some way to help organize these groups of people...what if they were to collectively decide to pool society's resources and direct them to actually feed the hungry and treat the sick? But oh no, that would be socialism! Evil evil socialism!

We don't have very many Christians in America anymore. We have Free Market worshipers who have co-opted Christian imagery and used it as a facade to hide the underlying greed, selfishness, and nationalism that serves as the foundation of their new religion.

There will always be fraud, waste, and abuse. Minimizing that should certainly be a goal--but not the primary goal. The primary goal is to get the services to those who truly need them. Just as in the adage of "I would rather ten guilty men go free than one innocent man go to prison," I would rather ten people abuse the social safety net than one person who truly needs it fall through it.

This new breed of Free Market worshiper wants us all to walk on the tightrope without a net at all...while they shake the rope and take away our balancing rod.

If you're surprised I'm not. They would rather not look at the truth so they spin. Just like when I talk about the surplus Clinton left behind. Then I back it up with evidence from factcheck.org and of course they say that site is biased in favor of the left when the site was started by Republicans. Face it. They'll say anything and are better off being ignored except when they are in danger of gaining power. They can't see it themselves because of the way their brain makes decisions. All you can say is " Oh well ".
Without the need for difference or a need to always follow the herd breeds complacency, mediocrity, and a lack of imagination
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post #3 of 9
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I suppose that I want to believe that underneath all the ridiculous rhetoric I read on these boards there are actual thinking, reasoning, compassionate human beings. I despair for the future of this country when the abhorrent positions and behavior that I posted about above are defended.

 

“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” 
-Sagan
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“The nitrogen in our DNA, the calcium in our teeth, the iron in our blood, the carbon in our apple pies were made in the interiors of collapsing stars. We are made of starstuff.” 
-Sagan
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post #4 of 9
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Originally Posted by BR View Post

I suppose that I want to believe that underneath all the ridiculous rhetoric I read on these boards there are actual thinking, reasoning, compassionate human beings. I despair for the future of this country when the abhorrent positions and behavior that I posted about above are defended.

It's the thinking, reasoning part that's different. They can't even see it. I know that the studies I've talked about ( and curiously enough got such a rise out of SDW and trumpy ) about the Amygdala aren't conclusive but they do tend to show that their version of reasoning is pretty different.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology...al_orientation
Without the need for difference or a need to always follow the herd breeds complacency, mediocrity, and a lack of imagination
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post #5 of 9
How do you know whether socialism or capitalism is the more Christian, when the bible can be interpreted in so many ways?

For example, a socialist could say that Jesus spent his life helping the sick, so society should help the sick. But a capitalist could say that Jesus spent *his* life helping the sick, but would not force anyone else to do so, being a man of peace. He might even be angry at anyone who advocated socialism in his name.

People can read whatever they want in to bible, and in my opinion it's designed that way, to get the biggest audience of believers.
post #6 of 9
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Originally Posted by BR View Post

Things Republican debate audiences have cheered:
  • "Enhanced interrogation" (torture)
  • Texas executing the highest number of prisoners of any state
  • Uninsured people dying from lack of medical treatment
  • It's poor people's fault they don't have better jobs or jobs at all


Things Republican debate audiences have booed:
  • Ron Paul mentioning that it might be a good idea to understand the motives behind 9/11 (and that they aren't as simple or stupid as "they hate us for our freedom")
  • Gay active duty soldiers
  • The motherfucking Golden Rule of all things

Seriously. What the fuck? Sure, the usual suspects will spin this, maybe employing a no true Scotsman fallacy. But really, this is hateful behavior and so utterly anti-Christ.

Frank essentially agreed with the Gandhi quote (I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.) in one of the other threads. He clamored for a return to Christian values--of course, mainly of the entirely lip-service variety. Praying in schools would do nothing to help the poor and the sick. Having Jesus plastered everywhere in the public square (like it isn't anyway, can't drive two blocks without seeing a fucking cross) isn't going to do anything to help the poor and the sick. Restricting the rights and freedoms of those who disagree with the divinity of Jesus is not going to do anything to help the poor and the sick.

What will help? Groups of people working together to actually deal with the problems head on. Hmm...if only there were some way to help organize these groups of people...what if they were to collectively decide to pool society's resources and direct them to actually feed the hungry and treat the sick? But oh no, that would be socialism! Evil evil socialism!

We don't have very many Christians in America anymore. We have Free Market worshipers who have co-opted Christian imagery and used it as a facade to hide the underlying greed, selfishness, and nationalism that serves as the foundation of their new religion.

There will always be fraud, waste, and abuse. Minimizing that should certainly be a goal--but not the primary goal. The primary goal is to get the services to those who truly need them. Just as in the adage of "I would rather ten guilty men go free than one innocent man go to prison," I would rather ten people abuse the social safety net than one person who truly needs it fall through it.

This new breed of Free Market worshiper wants us all to walk on the tightrope without a net at all...while they shake the rope and take away our balancing rod.

The real true Christian is not the phonies that show what the so called Christian is about power and money today and not about Jesus at all.They do not care about the poor or the real needy in society only about the greed what you are referring to.
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Originally Posted by ascii View Post

How do you know whether socialism or capitalism is the more Christian, when the bible can be interpreted in so many ways?

For example, a socialist could say that Jesus spent his life helping the sick, so society should help the sick. But a capitalist could say that Jesus spent *his* life helping the sick, but would not force anyone else to do so, being a man of peace. He might even be angry at anyone who advocated socialism in his name.

People can read whatever they want in to bible, and in my opinion it's designed that way, to get the biggest audience of believers.

All religions are money makers!The bible the biggest one of all.
post #8 of 9
Flame. Bait.


Thank you and good night.
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post #9 of 9
I'm sure Obama's delighted to see that the more the public sees of the repubs, the more his poll numbers rise. But these spitefull audience reactions and the candidates responses to them are ammo in his arsenal when for his campaign ads.

Some very eloquent posts here by you, by the way BR.
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