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post #81 of 119
1/25/12 at 12:52am
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Originally Posted by cdub View Post

With 97 Billion in the bank and 13 billion in profit this is easy.

The workers exist here in the states. The only reason people say they don't is that they'd rather use cheap slave labor and they're trying to rationalize it.

If they built the factory here they'd have to turn people away the demand to work there would be so high,

"If you build it they will come."

Get a clue before you comment. The workers may exist but not if the wages are comparable to those in China. The selling price of the USA made products would have to increase to cover the increased cost to manufacture.

People always say they are willing to pay more for products made here in USA but history proves that most won't which is why manufacturing went elsewhere to start with..
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post #82 of 119
1/25/12 at 1:42am
* Dividends: Fine, but doubtful.

* Patents: Continue acquiring 'em. Suck up every batch of high-quality patents you can buy without incurring the wrath of antitrust. Use 'em to destroy google! Lots of fun, but not sure it's very likely.

* Bandwidth: I've seen a couple mentions here of buying spectrum, but why bother with that when you can buy a fat pipe into tens of millions of homes - instantly!

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=CMCSA+Key+Statistics

Shhh, don't tell anyone, but Comcast has a market cap of 70B, well within reach. And they own various content creators. Perfect.
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post #83 of 119
1/25/12 at 1:54am
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Get a clue before you comment. The workers may exist but not if the wages are comparable to those in China. The selling price of the USA made products would have to increase to cover the increased cost to manufacture.

People always say they are willing to pay more for products made here in USA but history proves that most won't which is why manufacturing went elsewhere to start with..

Well said.

What I find hilarious about those that pose the "Slave Labor" argument is that they are probably communicating that argument via a device made in China by the very "Slave Labor" they are opposed to. They would also be the first to complain about the higher cost of the device if it was made int he USA. If you don't like the practices of the company, don't buy it's products. Don't try to mask your guilt of buying your new iPhone/iPad/iMac by bashing the practises of the company, it only makes you a hypocrite.

Most people don't want to admit that for our society to exist in the form that it does, we NEED to have places like China producing our goods at a lower cost, because those same people that want the device at a lower cost would also refuse to work the job for the hours and pay necessary to produce those devices at a reasonable cost. North American workers want everything (Good Pay, Pensions, Benefits, etc), but want to give nothing in return.

Just because the work conditions in China don't match our view of normal does not make them "Slave Labor". Every society has a different standard by which it lives. Our way of life here in North America doesn't exist in many parts of the world, and just because we live that way doesn't make it the right/only way.
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post #84 of 119
1/25/12 at 2:02am
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Originally Posted by paulchsieh View Post

Seriously, Apple should buy RIM so that it can enter Enterprise market. RIM is valuable because of its private eMail exchange network and the security it provides.

Apple should launch an Enterprise Sales Division - selling business management solution using the same hardware - iPad, iPhone, and Mac.

RIM is very cheap now.

RIM is a sinking boat and Apple is making gains in the enterprise.
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post #85 of 119
1/25/12 at 2:12am
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

I want to buy the Dell quote... then shut it down.

That and "ANALyst" or any dirivitave. Can't stand either in tech forums.

Annoying, isn't it. Just as writing Microsoft with a dollar sign. All getting long in the tooth.
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post #86 of 119
1/25/12 at 3:41am
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I thought that had been ditched.

I think what we will see is what happened with iOS, Retina displays.

seems like it has been ditched indeed...sadly until get to retina we 'll have no luck, and our current laptops and huge 17" macs will read menu letters best be read at a 4 inch distance at 15-20 inches distance...
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post #87 of 119
1/25/12 at 4:15am
How about splitting stock and giving more folks the ability to buy into Apple. I don't understand the >$400 a share business and still no split.
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post #88 of 119
1/25/12 at 4:33am
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Build a Death Star!

Love it. Love everything about it.

Although, seriously, I think Apple should buy Nintendo. With Apple's hardware and ecosystem and Nintendo's software and francises, I think Apple could revolutionise the entertainment industry.
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post #89 of 119
1/25/12 at 4:47am
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I think they will buy (or do a cash deal with) a provider like Direct TV. Like they did with AT&T for the iPhone. Apple will make the new iTV the standard for one provider, with lots of new services and ease of use. And acquire lots of content deals in the bargain.

Start with one provider and then expand. Sell Direct TV and move on to another. Today Direct TV has a market cap of $31B, and Apple could finance a good portion of the purchase price; it would probably take about 10% of their cash to get this rolling. Direct TV's PE is about 14, so Apple would be earning a lot more than they are currently with their cash holdings.


My thoughts, exactly-somewhat. I'm not so sure about the "sell DirecTV" part. I'm also not sure about the financials of such a deal, but it seems like a great solution to content problems. What is holding the AppleTV and other products back, somewhat, is the content distribution. The networks and content owners appear to have the upper hand and seem kinda flaky; I mean, look at all the Hulu shenanigans and Netflix arm-twisting.

If Apple buys DirecTV, they would first be careful that those companies uphold similar current DirecTV deals. The content providers, I assume, would try to avoid anti-competitive practices and litigation.

But, BUT, satellite dishes are hideous and really un-Apple
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post #90 of 119
1/25/12 at 5:40am
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Originally Posted by sflocal View Post

It is my understanding that all revenue Apple makes overseas is taxed at the rate based on the country the revenue was made in. So they already paid their taxes. Because Apple does not want to pay more taxes on top of what was already paid by the country of origin, they are keeping that money overseas. I'd do the same thing.

So what problem do you have? Oh right... they should pay even more taxes simply to deposit it into a US bank and spend that money in the US right?

Because the amount they are paying in taxes already is not enough right?


What some people like you don't get, is when Apple brings the money home, it deducts the US tax from the taxes it pays overseas. More importantly, the US government pays billions of dollars a year in foreign operations to advance US corporate policy and protect companies interests like Apple. For instance, passing SOPA like legislation overseas. Accordingly, US companies like Apple should pay taxes on foreign income to fund those operations. Further, that is the price you pay for doing business overseas. The companies know about it before hand. THe last thing we need is to remove another incentive to actually build things in the US. Finally, generally it is not Apple paying the tax. It is one of Apple's many foreign subsidiaries.
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post #91 of 119
1/25/12 at 5:49am
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how about bringing it home and paying their taxes

Please remember that Apple is not just an American company, but an International one. I'm sure they pay their taxes wherever their income is derived. Why would you want Apple punished (by paying additional taxes) by moving the income back to the US? Are you anti-Apple, or just anti-business? Anybody successful must be brought down.
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post #92 of 119
1/25/12 at 6:19am
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Ummm... move jobs back to the US and build the iPhone here?

The fact that they employ Sinclair Jungle-esque slave labor camps in China sickens me.

Maybe Apple should buy some island nation currently owned by a king. They would then own everything. They could make their own laws. They could build factories there and "employ" residents and immigrants alike.

Secrecy would be less of a hassle - no information would escape the island.

They would have no excess government regulation, because they would be the government. Their profits would never be taxed, for the same reason.

No news of working conditions could ever leave the island.

The downside is that they would have to pay for their own defense - but 100 Billion buys a lot of ships and fighter planes and soldiers.

They could increase productivity in their factories, and likely increase their profits.

One small end of the island, probably a segregated peninsula, could be used for public stuff. Apple hotels. Apple amusement parks a la Disneyland. A super-modern airport. Some residents would be allowed to live there too, and selected news reporters would get glowing interviews describing Apple Island as a workers paradise. It would be like Singapore, but made of gleaming curved glass.

The industrial sites could be camouflaged against satellite snooping. The ports could be guarded with warships. Nothing would come in or go out unless Apple knew about it.
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post #93 of 119
1/25/12 at 6:35am
It may not be possible; but, it would be great for Apple if they could buy the company back and take it private. They need to be without the pressure to make money every quarter, as so often happens with public companies. They need to be able to continue to make insanely great products without monetary pressure. Remember, it was poor Macintosh sales and Steve job's push for more Macintosh advertising and research that lead traitor Sculley to fire the man who hired him.
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post #94 of 119
1/25/12 at 7:13am
Money makes money. And that's what banks do if they are managed properly. The reason why banks got into trouble is that they do not behave like banks but got involved in Ponzi schemes. Banks all over the world are broken, taught by Wall Street on how to cheat customers and corrupt governments. Apple could buy a bank and slowly change the industry. There were many industries that people, at first, scoffed Apple for being involved. With the right people that Apple hires at the helm, now Apple is the golden standard in all these industries. For those who clamor for a dividend, Apple could invest its huge hoard of cash in its own bank and earn dividends for its shareholders every year or even quarters. How about it, Apple?
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post #95 of 119
1/25/12 at 7:37am
Buy Adobe, Buy NVIDIA. Fix Final Cut Pro, release a new Xserve, Xraid and Final Cut Server and attack the enterprise.
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post #96 of 119
1/25/12 at 7:51am
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Originally Posted by z3r0 View Post

Buy Adobe.

And shut it down, sure.

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Buy NVIDIA.

No reason.

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Fix Final Cut Pro

Fix your perception, instead.
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post #97 of 119
1/25/12 at 8:28am
Shutdown adobe? Thats crazy talk. They have a lot of great products and essentially own the creative market. They just need the right leadership. Apple can provide that.

Apple owning NVIDIA means they get the latest graphics cards, CUDA along with talent. Not to mention they can make sure they don't get stuck with integrated GPU's from Intel by fixing licensing deals.

As for Final Cut Pro. Don't be blind, pro's aren't happy with it. Many are switching to Premiere or AVID or holding on to FCP 7 as long as possible in hopes that Apple fixes FCP X.

Pro's like control FCP X is too automated. Its like programming with Visual Basic, where everything is hidden. Push button programming is not programming. Just like push button editing is not editing.


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And shut it down, sure.



No reason.



Fix your perception, instead.
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post #98 of 119
1/25/12 at 8:51am
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Shutdown adobe? Thats crazy talk. They have a lot of great products and essentially own the creative market.

Let's just ignore how they GOT like that

Flash is discontinued. Premier Pro is discontinued, some features wrapped into Final Cut. After Effects is discontinued, some features wrapped into Motion. Fireworks is discontinued. Dreamweaver and Contribute are what, rebuilt into something useful? Photoshop and Illustrator are redone from the ground up. Audition is discontinued, some features wrapped into Logic. Encore, DVD Studio Pro, and WaveBurner are merged if not just discontinued entirely. Bridge is thrown out. InDesign is discontinued, but its soul is transferred into iBooks Author, Pages, Keynote, and the rest of the Apple applications that can be used for layout.

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Apple owning NVIDIA means they get the latest graphics cards, CUDA along with talent. Not to mention they can make sure they don't get stuck with integrated GPU's from Intel by fixing licensing deals.

I just don't see how Apple could get away with owning a GPU manufacturer that also supplies to the rest of the computer market.
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post #99 of 119
1/25/12 at 8:52am
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I agree with your points in general. There is an argument for declaring a dividend, however, in that there are several large mutual funds which are prohibited from owning AAPL, since they are chartered to only buy dividend-paying stocks. Since many non-dividend restricted funds already hold the maximum percentage of AAPL that they are allowed by their own diversification rules, the number of large buyers is limited. (If the $30/share bump in the after market holds, some funds may be required to sell some AAPL tomorrow.)

I am starting to be persuaded that the best source of potential increased buying pressure for AAPL, and thus increased share price, is among dividend stock funds.

Exactly. A dividend would bring in new investors, retain existing investors, and reduce trading volatility. All good (unless you're a day-trader perhaps). I am hoping that it won't be a one-time payout, huge though it could easily be.

Now someone will doubtless offer up a cockamamie argument for why this would cause the stock to go down, or that as stockholders they really don't want the money. This goes against reason on the first point, and on the second point, if you don't want your Apple dividend check you are probably irrational enough to want someone to take it off your hands. So today I am making an offer to all holders of AAPL who are repulsed by the thought of a receiving a dividend to relieve you of your pain. Sign your check over to me and I will happily pay your taxes on it. Deal?
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post #100 of 119
1/25/12 at 10:06am
I don't see Apple killing a lot of Adobe's pro apps off, too much demand. They would lower prices though.

Apple does not manufacture GPU's it would be a tough case for DOJ not to allow a merger. Its a new market for them. There are other GPU manufactures aside from NVIDIA(2nd largest). AMD/ATI(3rd largest), Intel (largest), Via Technologies, S3 Graphics, Matrox etc... There's also no stopping others from jumping in like Texas Instruments, PNY etc...

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Let's just ignore how they GOT like that

Flash is discontinued. Premier Pro is discontinued, some features wrapped into Final Cut. After Effects is discontinued, some features wrapped into Motion. Fireworks is discontinued. Dreamweaver and Contribute are what, rebuilt into something useful? Photoshop and Illustrator are redone from the ground up. Audition is discontinued, some features wrapped into Logic. Encore, DVD Studio Pro, and WaveBurner are merged if not just discontinued entirely. Bridge is thrown out. InDesign is discontinued, but its soul is transferred into iBooks Author, Pages, Keynote, and the rest of the Apple applications that can be used for layout.

And PDF becomes ADF.



I just don't see how Apple could get away with owning a GPU manufacturer that also supplies to the rest of the computer market.
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post #101 of 119
1/25/12 at 10:19am
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I don't see Apple killing a lot of Adobe's pro apps off, too much demand. They would lower prices though.

I don't see Apple allowing themselves to sell ABSOLUTE CRAP. But yeah, when they completely redesign the applications, yeah, they'll be cheaper.

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Apple does not manufacture GPU's it would be a tough case for DOJ not to allow a merger.

So when Apple stops selling nVidia chips to PCs, you really don't think that won't cause some problems?
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post #102 of 119
1/25/12 at 10:33am
I think Apple should give the people that owned AAPL through the tough times and 'hung in there' a one time check for $1M, just to say thank you. Just saying.
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post #103 of 119
1/25/12 at 11:48am
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I don't see Apple allowing themselves to sell ABSOLUTE CRAP. But yeah, when they completely redesign the applications, yeah, they'll be cheaper.

Well they do sell the Mighty Mouse and the latest Aluminum Apple Pro Keyboard. I would call those ABSOLUTE CRAP Honestly Adobe has great apps, sure some need fat trimming (Dreamweaver, Photoshop with 3D Really?)


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So when Apple stops selling nVidia chips to PCs, you really don't think that won't cause some problems?

Mostly for other PC vendors, then again if they are under contract Apple will have to fulfill their orders (same thing happened with the PA Semi acquisition) which will give them time to shift to another supplier.
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post #104 of 119
1/25/12 at 12:09pm
I dearly wish Apple would buy Adobe and put an end to all that company's foolishness.
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post #105 of 119
1/25/12 at 12:22pm
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Love it. Love everything about it.

Although, seriously, I think Apple should buy Nintendo. With Apple's hardware and ecosystem and Nintendo's software and francises, I think Apple could revolutionise the entertainment industry.

If nothing else, Nintendo should be working to immediately get all of their game library (past and present) onto iOS.

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post #106 of 119
1/25/12 at 12:23pm
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Maybe Apple should buy some island nation currently owned by a king. They would then own everything. They could make their own laws. They could build factories there and "employ" residents and immigrants alike.

Secrecy would be less of a hassle - no information would escape the island.

They would have no excess government regulation, because they would be the government. Their profits would never be taxed, for the same reason.

No news of working conditions could ever leave the island.

The downside is that they would have to pay for their own defense - but 100 Billion buys a lot of ships and fighter planes and soldiers.

They could increase productivity in their factories, and likely increase their profits.

One small end of the island, probably a segregated peninsula, could be used for public stuff. Apple hotels. Apple amusement parks a la Disneyland. A super-modern airport. Some residents would be allowed to live there too, and selected news reporters would get glowing interviews describing Apple Island as a workers paradise. It would be like Singapore, but made of gleaming curved glass.

The industrial sites could be camouflaged against satellite snooping. The ports could be guarded with warships. Nothing would come in or go out unless Apple knew about it.

I'd recommend buying California. We can be had at a nice discount because we're bankrupt.

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post #107 of 119
1/25/12 at 12:31pm
Google has a market cap of $185 billion.

They should buy a majority stake in Google. Wouldn't that be a hoot.

I can see the future headlines now.

"Google shareholders (read Apple) elected a whole new board and replaced the company's CEO today. Within an hour of these replacements it was decided that Android does, in fact, steal from iOS and in compensation for this all Android vendors will have to pay a royalty to Apple. Also, in compensation for all prior loses all IP concerning mobile technology and communications will be handed over to Apple, including, but not limited to, all of Motorola's IP."

So much for needing massive lawsuits against Android makers. Apple would essentially own Android.
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post #108 of 119
1/25/12 at 1:16pm
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Shutdown adobe? Thats crazy talk. They have a lot of great products and essentially own the creative market. They just need the right leadership. Apple can provide that.

Yeah, the employees from Nothing Real will tell you how good their leadership on professional creative products is.

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Flash is discontinued. Premier Pro is discontinued, some features wrapped into Final Cut. After Effects is discontinued, some features wrapped into Motion. Fireworks is discontinued. Dreamweaver and Contribute are what, rebuilt into something useful? Photoshop and Illustrator are redone from the ground up. Audition is discontinued, some features wrapped into Logic. Encore, DVD Studio Pro, and WaveBurner are merged if not just discontinued entirely. Bridge is thrown out. InDesign is discontinued, but its soul is transferred into iBooks Author, Pages, Keynote, and the rest of the Apple applications that can be used for layout.

And PDF becomes ADF.

Adobe wouldn't sell and let that happen. You can take away everything from a true creative and they will stay true to their passion. They make software based on what creative professionals tell them, not based on what average joe tells them is too difficult.

Average Joe: Making DVDs is too difficult
Apple: Here's iDVD's Magic DVD button
Adobe: Here's the Encore user manual
Average Joe: How do I fit 3 hours of video onto a single DVD?
Apple: Ah, we didn't think you'd need an adjustable bitrate option, Average Joe.
Adobe: Change the bitrate option, we knew you'd need it eventually.

Software from different developers doesn't just fit into other products either. You can't take millions of lines of code from CS 5 and trivially refactor it for consumers. Also, as soon as they dropped the Windows versions, the entire industry would run screaming back to Quark. After Effects users would jump to ... well someone else would probably have to build an alternative as Nuke, Toxic etc aren't quite the same.

PDF wouldn't change as it's an open standard.
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post #109 of 119
1/25/12 at 4:31pm
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People always say they are willing to pay more for products made here in USA but history proves that most won't which is why manufacturing went elsewhere to start with..

Ask a smoker. Becoming addicted to nicotine didn't happen on the first puff. For one reason or another someone convinced them that smoking was cool. Then...a little while later, addicted.

Walmart shirts look just like the one's we used to buy but these made in China ones are cheaper so I can own lots for the same price.. I will be styling with my new shirts...Vain.

Most of the crap Americans buy they don't even need, but they are addicted to shopping for fake bling and cheaper the better.

The Saudis hoodwinked us with oil back in the 70's now look at the price. We cut back much of our own production and bought it from them. Now we are addicted and have to pay whatever the cost.

Do you think it will be any different with consumer electronics. Americans couldn't produce an iPhone if their life depended on it. Once China owns us like the Saudis do with oil, we will pay whatever they charge and sacrifice food, education, healthcare, whatever as long as we can txt chat on our devices. We are addicted.

If you like being pwned, keep buying everything from China.

Pretty soon you won't have a choice. You already don't have a choice with most electronic stuff.

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post #110 of 119
1/25/12 at 8:44pm
Buy Adobe, and rewrite everyone of their crappy memory hog apps, then make it Mac Only
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post #111 of 119
1/26/12 at 2:08am
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It was recently estimated that manufacturing the iPhone in the USA would cost $46 more than doing it in China. With gross margins of 45% on a $600 device (about $260 gross profit on each 16G phone), that would be affordable for Apple.

Rather than us paying $246 for a 16G iPhone, perhaps Apple could suffer a smaller profit, like only 30%, which would exceed every other electronics company? After all, if little ole Brazil can insist (successfully) that Apple manufacture iPhones and iPads there, why not the USA? Because we don't care if the 99% have good jobs, that's why.

Are you really telling Apple to lose money, and compromise their business and business practice in the name of American Patriotism? Are you really trying to force a Company to lose money and/or lose business to help others out as a good grace?

Wow. Talk about un-American!

Firstly, Apple is an International Company, secondly, if I remember correctly, 60% of their revenue came from out-of-U.S. Also, they've barely even set foot in China yet.

Americans would drop Apple and stop buying their products on the fly, if they deemed them not up to snuff, or "yesterdays news". Why should Apple do any different?
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post #112 of 119
1/26/12 at 7:01am
[QUOTE=Tallest Skil;2031519]Let's just ignore how they GOT like that

Flash is discontinued. Premier Pro is discontinued, some features wrapped into Final Cut. After Effects is discontinued, some features wrapped into Motion. Fireworks is discontinued. Dreamweaver and Contribute are what, rebuilt into something useful? Photoshop and Illustrator are redone from the ground up. Audition is discontinued, some features wrapped into Logic. Encore, DVD Studio Pro, and WaveBurner are merged if not just discontinued entirely. Bridge is thrown out. InDesign is discontinued, but its soul is transferred into iBooks Author, Pages, Keynote, and the rest of the Apple applications that can be used for layout.

I still complain about Freehand being wiped out.
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post #113 of 119
1/26/12 at 7:03pm
A few suggestions:

1) Spend several million dollars creating fantastic ads promoting, and educating people about, Ron Paul.

2) Spend some serious money to make AppleTV a serious player (e.g., NFL Sunday Ticket, every channel/TV show, better rental pricing, longer rental windows, a new version of the ATV with 1080p support).

3) Keep doing what they're doing. Spend money on R&D, push the envelope on technology (e.g., higher-res screens, longer-lasting battery life).

4) Stock split.

5) Dividends.
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post #114 of 119
1/27/12 at 2:35pm
Hmm maybe buy Nasa, take it private and get the government out of doing stupids things with the Space program. Think of it, an Iphone or an Ipad has more computing power than the Saturn program's onboard computers...
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post #115 of 119
1/31/12 at 9:05pm
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Buy Dell. Shut it down. Give the money back to the shareholders.

Buy Samsung. Shut it down. Keep the money.

Samsung has a market cap of 141 billion. A takeover would require a decent premium, Apple can't buy them.
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post #116 of 119
1/31/12 at 9:09pm
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Google has a market cap of $185 billion.

They should buy a majority stake in Google. Wouldn't that be a hoot.

I can see the future headlines now.

"Google shareholders (read Apple) elected a whole new board and replaced the company's CEO today. Within an hour of these replacements it was decided that Android does, in fact, steal from iOS and in compensation for this all Android vendors will have to pay a royalty to Apple. Also, in compensation for all prior loses all IP concerning mobile technology and communications will be handed over to Apple, including, but not limited to, all of Motorola's IP."

So much for needing massive lawsuits against Android makers. Apple would essentially own Android.

Takeovers are usually accompanied by a premium price, otherwise shareholders won't sell. At a 50% premium (which is fairly standard), a 50% +1 premium would be too expensive for Apple. Not to mention, there's other OS choices for Samsung and HTC.
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post #117 of 119
1/31/12 at 9:12pm
Apple should simply buy some of their suppliers (the smaller ones), spend more on R&D, and work on creating even better products. Apple printers? Apple vacuums? Apple TVs? How about an Apple fridge? How about personal assistant robots? So many possibilities with $100B. Maybe get their technology into cars? An Apple car? There's so many possibilities to put tech into consumer products, how about a control center for automating your entire house? Samsung, LG, Panasonic are already in alot of these markets, Apple could conceivably get in too. Financially, Apple is about as successful as any company could dream of. Now would be the time to make their (the Apple employees and executives) dreams come true. An Apple Xbox alternative?
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post #118 of 119
1/31/12 at 9:19pm
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Apple printers?

For a paperless future? I don't think so.

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Apple vacuums?

Dyson will be upset.

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Apple TVs?

They already have a solution for that.

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How about an Apple fridge?

Because it makes as much sense as a toaster.

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How about personal assistant robots? So many possibilities with $100B.

You'd need more than that for that field, that's for sure.

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Maybe get their technology into cars? An Apple car?

"Fully electric, 1,000 mpg, never breaks down, only runs between Chicago and St. Louis." Standard 90s Apple car metaphor.

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how about a control center for automating your entire house?

I think that in 15 years we'll be able to achieve that via an iPad in your hand and a Mac Mini in your basement.

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An Apple Xbox alternative?

The Pippin wants a word with you. Microsoft does multiplayer right. Nintendo does games right. Sony does er

Anyway, unless something happens to the Big Three and Apple goes insane, you won't see a game console from them
PhilBoogie
That's Google alright. For a stupid company they sure do dumb things.
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PhilBoogie
That's Google alright. For a stupid company they sure do dumb things.
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1/31/12 at 9:46pm
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Originally Posted by Mikeb85 View Post

Takeovers are usually accompanied by a premium price, otherwise shareholders won't sell. At a 50% premium (which is fairly standard), a 50% +1 premium would be too expensive for Apple. Not to mention, there's other OS choices for Samsung and HTC.

Takeovers always require not only the payment of a significant premium over current market price, but also a willing board of directors.
Please don't be insane.
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Please don't be insane.
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