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Originally Posted by rtm135 View Post

I think about this stuff all the time. Small minds produce even smaller results.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/t...w/11130977.cms

Look, change has to begin somewhere. Manufacturing must return to the US for our long term health. The A5 chip is built in Texas. That's a start. Over time, we'll build up our expertise, and more parts can be built here. But someone has to lead the charge.

Why any of you would support overseas factories is beyond me. It's bad for jobs and our economy as a whole. Apple already makes an obscene profit margin on it's products. Moving manufacturing to the US would reduce those profits, which I'm sure you greedy stockholders can't stomach.

In other words, typical republican thinking. Worry about yourself and screw everyone else.

1) Proof that all A5 PoPs are produced in Texas?

2) I'd argue it's the small mind that thinks only about his nation an not how it funcrions in a global economy.

3) Be careful what you wih for. For Foxconn to find 1.3 million US workers that are more financially viable that Chinese or Brazialian counterparts would mean the US is in dire times.

"The real haunted empire?  It's the New York Times." ~SockRolid

"There is no rule that says the best phones must have the largest screen." ~RoundaboutNow

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"The real haunted empire?  It's the New York Times." ~SockRolid

"There is no rule that says the best phones must have the largest screen." ~RoundaboutNow

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post #122 of 123
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Originally Posted by rtm135 View Post

If you're going to have the nerve to disagree with me, be less lazy next time and back up your disagreement with something besides insults.

Sure! These are from this thread, which you would see if you had read. The two dozen other recent threads about Foxconn, et. al. show similar stuff, but since you didn't read this one, I don't expect you to read the others.

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Originally Posted by GregInPrague View Post

What is the average wage in China? What is the cost of living in China? Do they have to pay to sleep in the dorms or is that free? Do they have to pay for their company meals? None of that is addressed in the article. Young people coming in from the countryside farms wouldn't need to pay for an apartment if they're sleeping in the facility and they eat there too apparently.

If you know anyone whose been to China you would know that everything there is dirt cheap. $12 per day may not be enough for them to buy the iPhones that they build but it may be a very livable wage in China. On what grounds are you saying this isn't a decent wage?

Check average monthly salaries for numerous industries in China and you'll see the Foxconn employees are doing really well at $12 a day. http://www.worldsalaries.org/china.shtml

Tax accountants in the US probably work close to 20 hour days frequently leading up to April 15th, is that slave labor?

Again, you have no idea what slave labor is if you think this is "a step up" from it. People are on huge waiting lists for the opportunity to work at Foxconn. Please show us one person who has ever asked to be a slave laborer.

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Originally Posted by Flaneur View Post

I hereby resign from your World.

By now you should have figured out that mobile electronics "production facilities" as you call them (manufacturing or assembly or what?) are part of an ecosystem that only exists in Japan, Taiwan, China, Korea, Thailand, etc.

That's where the parts come from, the expertise in manufacturing is there -- generations of making stuff like video cameras that never were made in America -- so are you asking Tim Cook to buy Asia and import it to Texas?

Why is this so hard to grasp? I believe people in this miserable media-flogged country can only think in memes, slogans and sound bites.

Try to think in terms of systems -- you'll be happier. Or just try to think.

Foxconn did it in Brazil? Ok, get Foxconn to build an ASSEMBLY PLANT in the third-world country of Texas. That I could believe logistically, but not the economics of it.

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Originally Posted by jragosta View Post

For another view - from someone who has direct experience:
http://techpinions.com/made-in-china...-be-wrong/5140

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Originally Posted by nunyabinez View Post

From our friends at 9 to 5 Mac.

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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

Don't be ridiculous.

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How about you get bent.

No, no, YOU are the one who is spouting insults.

Originally posted by Marvin

Even if [the 5.5” iPhone] exists, it doesn’t deserve to.
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Originally posted by Marvin

Even if [the 5.5” iPhone] exists, it doesn’t deserve to.
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post #123 of 123
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Originally Posted by Psych_guy View Post

It was a hit piece, plain and simple. Apple's earnings were through the roof and the story was waiting in the wings until after the quarterly report. Don't know who is behind a lot of these auspiciously timed "news" stories about Apple, but they always seem to hit when Apple is at a peak. Are people wanting to short the stock that badly?

I agree that this NYT article is inaccurate and biased. What I do not understand is how the stock market benefits -- and I would really like to understand. Would you please expound on how traders/Wall Street can benefit by trouncing a company's reputation?

Thanks,
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