Originally Posted by fecklesstechguy
This is the reason you figure so prominently on so many ignore lists. It doesn't matter who hangs on who's words, and dismissing the rest of the board here with "you all deify Steve Jobs" as a means of ignoring the factual arguments along with the opinions is simply behaving like an advocate of Google/Android. It is a classic debating tactic, and one that anyone with an actual command of the facts doesn't have to use.
Few anti-Google posts have any attempts at objectivity...you'll notice that I have never ever spoken ill of Apple as a whole even though there are elements about the company and the eco-system I do not like.
Most of my anti-whatever posts are geared towards the iPhanboys who, no matter what, see Apple as rosie...period...and that anything that merely competes with Apple, even if barely, is automatically wrong and must be destroyed, bought out, deleted, absorbed, etc...
The people I speak against are the ones who begin a point with "Well Steve said." Even though they should know by now that just because Steve says something doesn't mean it's true. He said a lot of things, and a lot of things were wrong, and a lot were right.
I'd be a fool if I didn't see Steve as a great man...but thinking as I think I see him as nothing more than a man in the end...he lived a man, he died a man. There is nothing sufficiently special about him, he had the right ideas at the right time (remember, those same ideas almost bit him in the rear when it was the wrong time).
There are a handful of posters here who, judging from their comments, actually knew him, and those are the people whose postings about him in a personal sense are respected.
Those who only knew him as the great leader, as a speaker, as a quote giver, as a CEO and perhaps one of the best UX minds ever, etc and who "STEVE I MISS YOU" over and over and over and over ad nauseum, and can see no fault in this man, and assume because it was said it must be true...are the ones I am speaking about.
No one has presented any real facts about Google's cases...no one knows any facts about Googles cases...we have interpretations of interpretations of interpretations...and being that I am anti-software patent nothing can change that stance unless it can be explained to me why an idea, I mean an "implementation of a method" can be patented without code and how a vastly different code that results in something that looks different and acts different except for maybe a small area where some patented "and/or" was infringed (or "stolen" on this board) can be banned indefinitely.
The Slide-to-unlock super broad patent, the stupid coverflow crap that I think Apple thankfully got overturned, etc etc.
I mean ONE-CLICK is patented...one click...that is by far the stupidest one yet.
Anywho...no one here thinks like that though (it seems) all they see is XX v. Apple? WELL FUCK XX!!!!!!
No real thought, no real reason why they side with Apple...the entire position is rather irrational...
Apple is always right...except maybe someone doesn't like an icon in an app update...but anything beyond that Apple is always right.
There was a time when I was young and I would get REAL happy at what competing companies were doing, because that meant that everyone would be in a mad dash to one up each other...and the results were awesome...Genesis, N64, Playstation, Xbox, Faster processors, better monitors, laser mice, better keyboards, etc...
I saw all that change when Apple came back (and boy did they come back)...now I see a bunch of people wishing for the end of many companies. Wishing for a world devoid of choice...and that's weird to me.
I was raised on Macs, I've always liked mac, but I use windows because I prefer it...
I always suggest iPhones to most friends who wish for a phone because honestly, Android until the GNex really wasn't up to par IMO (phones were, OS wasn't)
iPad if you want a tablet...etc.
I am no enemy of Apple...never was...I just do not agree with their patent blitzkrieg. I do not see it as being anything but bad for the future of tech.
Like I say...Apple...a great friend to innovation, an enemy of progress. (which is easily debatable I know)