Originally Posted by Andysol
This does not
allow you to have a unified user interface between your cable, tv, apple tv, blu ray player, etc. This solution ONLY works if Apple works out a content deal- which 99.99% won't happen. That'd be no different than how the ATV2 works currently.
Sure it does. My options allow for the best of both worlds. The AppleTV becomes the de facto
UI for any of the models I've presented.
Now, I didn't get into details of it earlier but I had assumed you knew what I was getting at. It now seems like you may not know what I was stating about an external device. I've mentioned this type of setup for years on here and I didn't say that the current AppleTV was perfect as it is at least the latter should be a clue.
To restate, I think it makes more sense for the AppleTV, as a stand alone device, to make the TV into a simple monitor. It hooks up via HDMI for video (and possibly audio) and the power connects to the back of the AppleTV just like with a cable box. Now the TV turns on and off with the AppleTV remote and never has to be moved from the Video 1 input. Now this AppleTV is much more like a router with a built in switch except with HDMI. It was one HDMI out to the TV and 2-4 coming into it so you can plug in your cable box/sat receiver, Blu-ray player, etc. Now all your input go through the AppleTV so at any time you can use the AppleTV remote to switch inputs if you want to use one of the connected devices and at any time, regardless of what UI you are using the AppleTV's UI will be able to take over. The AppleTV's UI could even overlay for showing you items like who's at your front door, when there is a call to the home phone, and other Growl-like options for certain services.
This could happen- sure. But I don't recall Apple being prone to supplying the software and letting someone else sell the hardware. I remember it on one phone, which failed royally, and Apple regretted. Apple will sell the hardware and software combined. So this is more likely than Apple working the content deal, but still very unlikely. I'd love to have a $199 Dell netbook be able to license OSX, but it won't happen.
For my suggestion that Apple license their tech to vendors is basically the same exact thing as above in actual usage the only difference would be the remote would likely be theTV's remote with some AppleTV buttons. I include this option but Apple doesn't have a history of such camaraderie.
At least these options would allow for you to get your cable/sat content (something that Apple can't do without a lot of deal but even then it would be tricky if your cable provider is your ISP), play Blu-ray quality videos (something not going to happen with streaming for a very long time even after 1080p is available from the iTS), allows you keep your current TVs, allows you add multiple AppleTVs in the house at a price less than buying one Apple HDTV, and allows you to update the AppleTV HW in a cycle that is different from your TV's replacement cycle (these last three will not only allow Apple to sell more AppleTVs right away, but sell more to repeat customers who don't see a need to buy a new HDTV every year or two despite HW and feature updates to the AppleTV components.
Just my opinion- so take that with a grain of salt- but Apple does not want to send their software off to let a hardware manufacturer(s) handle it. They want to be in control. I also believe there is no chance they work out a content deal (a la carte, etc.) because- single handedly- of sports (amongst other reasons). I don't think either of your suggestions are reasonable.
Licensing their tech doesn't necessary mean the TV vendor makes or even sells the AppleTV HW. It could just mean they make the TVs to a certain spec, get a special logo on the upper left corner [TV
] and have a special connector in the back specially for the AppleTV to tie into so it's seamless. These TVs would cost more because Apple would be getting a fee from vendors and then Apple could get money from us from buying the AppleTV device. You could then get a smaller TV for your bedroom from a different TV manufacturer and then put the older AppleTV unit on the smaller TV and get the newer, better AppleTV unit for your TV in the HEC. Now Apple has gotten licensing fee from two TV vendors, got you to by two AppleTVs, made you more connected and profited on the sale of all 4 items.
Bottom line- I'm tired of changing inputs between devices. It's annoying. An integrated TV fixes that (and makes it easier to record, search channels, play music, etc.)
Me too, but I don't think it's so much of a pain that people are willing to spend a couple grand to replace all the TVs in their home with new TVs are only come in a few sizes and little to no other options. And Apple should be trying to find away to get users to buy a new AppleTV every time the HW is updated, something that surely won't happen with an Apple HDTV.