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post #41 of 72
2/6/12 at 10:39am
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Originally Posted by hittrj01 View Post

As an employee of Best Buy, and working in Geek Squad, I do apologize about your experience, but I take offense that you lump everybody in with that. For the most part, my experiences with customers are always very pleasant, professional, and productive. I get great feedback from my clients, and having a degree in an IT related field, feel I am very qualified for the job and advice that I give.

I am sure you are a superior human being compared to myself, though, simply because I work for Geek Squad. Whatever profession you work in (if any), undoubtedly has idiots in it, as well, and I would guess you wouldn't like me to lump you in with them, either.

I have actually had nothing but good experiences with Best Buy employees, its Best Buy corporate policy that I find to be distastfull. You have no idea how infuriated I get when I see the head to head comparison of a Monster HDMI cable vs a cheap 20 year composite cable. OMG a hdmi cable can beat the old RCA jacks, I'm shocked. Then I hear the salesperson say "this is the reason you need a $100.00 hdmi cable to run a signal 6 feet". Really?? If I am in the store I interupt the sales people right there, tell the people they are being lied to, and that they should buy the cheapest hdmi cable they can find buy through monoprice. Its a freakin digital signal, its either getting their or its not.

Just my two cents, but its policy like that which causes people to hold best buy(and unfortunately) their employees in low regard.
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post #42 of 72
2/6/12 at 10:40am
oops!!!
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post #43 of 72
2/6/12 at 10:44am
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Originally Posted by lightknight View Post

I'd say, given most commenters have accurately observed that this was a fantasy product, invented to test client reaction, the idiot is not the Best Buy IT guy (who by the way has nothing to do with that survey). Leaves open the question "who's an idiot?"... and stop pointing at that mirror, you look dumb.

I'm guessing that you may be one of those "chosen" few of you that get to be a member of the Geek Squad? Good enough to work at Best Buy, but could never even make it as an Apple Genius? So sorry charlie!!!
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post #44 of 72
2/6/12 at 10:59am
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Originally Posted by Zoolook View Post

$1499? ha ha ha...

Ever seen Bang & Olufsen TV prices?
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post #45 of 72
2/6/12 at 11:13am
It would be funny if Apple releases a 21:9 HDTV like Vizio has coming out. If Apple did that it would likely be the only way TVs should come in the future. With HD channels being 16:9 it would leave a good amount of space for the AppleTV UI on the side.

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post #46 of 72
2/6/12 at 11:17am
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

It would be funny if Apple releases a 21:9 HDTV like Vizio has coming out.

Sounds just like something they'd do if making a TV made any sense.

Though it would be the Super Hi-Vision equivalent of 21:9.
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post #47 of 72
2/6/12 at 11:19am
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Originally Posted by Zoolook View Post

$1499? ha ha ha...

You can get an absolutely fantastic 42" TV for way less than $999 that already includes Netflix AND Hulu Plus. Apple TV costs $99... I think even the most ardent Apple desciple will have a hard time justifying this, with no Hulu.

Assuming this is even remotely accurate...

Is that you Steve Ballmer?
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post #48 of 72
2/6/12 at 11:19am
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Originally Posted by Buckeyestar View Post

You do know you can already do this. Angry Birds is available on PS3 and probably the 360 as well.

I know it's hard to tell but that was sarcasm.
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post #49 of 72
2/6/12 at 11:21am
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Originally Posted by hittrj01 View Post

As an employee of Best Buy, and working in Geek Squad, I do apologize about your experience, but I take offense that you lump everybody in with that. For the most part, my experiences with customers are always very pleasant, professional, and productive. I get great feedback from my clients, and having a degree in an IT related field, feel I am very qualified for the job and advice that I give.

I am sure you are a superior human being compared to myself, though, simply because I work for Geek Squad. Whatever profession you work in (if any), undoubtedly has idiots in it, as well, and I would guess you wouldn't like me to lump you in with them, either.

So what are you going to do for a job once BB goes belly up? Maybe you can take your "degree" from IT Tech and find a job fixing the work stations at Lens Crafters?
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post #50 of 72
2/6/12 at 11:28am
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Originally Posted by hittrj01 View Post

As an employee of Best Buy, and working in Geek Squad, I do apologize about your experience, but I take offense that you lump everybody in with that. For the most part, my experiences with customers are always very pleasant, professional, and productive. I get great feedback from my clients, and having a degree in an IT related field, feel I am very qualified for the job and advice that I give.

I am sure you are a superior human being compared to myself, though, simply because I work for Geek Squad. Whatever profession you work in (if any), undoubtedly has idiots in it, as well, and I would guess you wouldn't like me to lump you in with them, either.

Thank you for keeping the tone mature. Slander is too often taken personally and responders are too aggrieved. The initial comment isn't really worthy of a response but if there was to be a response you handled it very well.
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post #51 of 72
2/6/12 at 11:32am
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Originally Posted by Constable Odo View Post

$1499 is affordable to me since I paid that much about five years ago for a 42" Sony. 42 inches is about as much as I need in display size since my viewing distances are limited. I watch most of my TV via Slingbox on my 15.4" MacBook Pro, so if the AppleTV offers some easy programming choices, I'll go with it. I'm an Apple shareholder so basically when I buy it, it will be using Apple profits to buy the TV which works out perfectly to increase more Apple profitability.

I do realize I could get any decent high-end Samsung, LG, Toshiba, Panasonic or Sony TV, but I'm an Apple supporter and that's just how it will be. I hope Apple goes with that price and I'll bet they make a fortune on sales. I keep my TVs for at least ten years and $1499 over that period means almost nothing to me. If AppleTV offers their usual high-quality product, I don't see how I can go wrong. It will likely have built-in Airport streaming and should work with all my other Apple gear and it should be a breeze to set up. I'm all set for it.

you think that's a great price??? I have a 1990 Ford Escort for $10,000 to sell you then. Today, a name-brand LED 3D 42" TV will cost you $600 at Fry's Electronics. Heck, I just helped my friend buy an odd-ball size Samsung 43" Plasma for $400. TVs have come down since 5yrs ago.

I think $1500 for a 42" is WAY to high even if it is Apple-lified. But hey, Sales people love customer's like you.
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post #52 of 72
2/6/12 at 11:34am
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Originally Posted by massconn72 View Post

So what are you going to do for a job once BB goes belly up? Maybe you can take your "degree" from IT Tech and find a job fixing the work stations at Lens Crafters?

Aww, that's cute. You have no other way to talk to people than to personally attack them. To answer your question, one always keeps his options open, but for right now, the pay is good, the benefits are good, I have my employer paying for my Master's degree, and I get to work with things and people that I mostly enjoy. I recommend not degrading others when talking to them, because you end up coming across as a prick. I can tell by your comments that you really don't care, and I truly am sorry for you that attacking random people on the internet is the only thing that brings you joy in this world.
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post #53 of 72
2/6/12 at 11:34am
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So what are you going to do for a job once BB goes belly up? Maybe you can take your "degree" from IT Tech and find a job fixing the work stations at Lens Crafters?

This right here is what is wrong with the internet. Why the need for personal attacks, are you that insecure about yourself or your station in life?
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post #54 of 72
2/6/12 at 11:39am
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Originally Posted by Baka-Dubbs View Post

I have actually had nothing but good experiences with Best Buy employees, its Best Buy corporate policy that I find to be distastfull. You have no idea how infuriated I get when I see the head to head comparison of a Monster HDMI cable vs a cheap 20 year composite cable. OMG a hdmi cable can beat the old RCA jacks, I'm shocked. Then I hear the salesperson say "this is the reason you need a $100.00 hdmi cable to run a signal 6 feet". Really?? If I am in the store I interupt the sales people right there, tell the people they are being lied to, and that they should buy the cheapest hdmi cable they can find buy through monoprice. Its a freakin digital signal, its either getting their or its not.

Just my two cents, but its policy like that which causes people to hold best buy(and unfortunately) their employees in low regard.

Thank you for that! I am in total agreement with everything you said. Drives me mad when I see them pushing those Monster cables too and insurance plans. I remember seeing one Best Buy employee getting a high-five from his super for telling him the last person he worked with he got them to buy the insurance plan on a crapper laptop. But then, he'll probably need it.
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post #55 of 72
2/6/12 at 11:49am
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Originally Posted by ddawson100 View Post

squeals of anticipation.

You can already do this with a PS3, it isn't very exciting...
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post #56 of 72
2/6/12 at 12:03pm
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Originally Posted by massconn72 View Post

I'm guessing that you may be one of those "chosen" few of you that get to be a member of the Geek Squad? Good enough to work at Best Buy, but could never even make it as an Apple Genius? So sorry charlie!!!

Rather than picking on another poster, I think your time would be better spent in an English class. Truly.
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post #57 of 72
2/6/12 at 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by steverance View Post

Is that you Steve Ballmer?

You're referring to his comment about the iPhone being too expensive, that everyone refers to to show he's an idiot?

The original iPhone came out at $599, and was reduced in price pretty quickly to $399 - that's 30%. 30% of $1499 is, well, almost exactly $999

$1499 is too much for a TV and an iOS attachment which will still need the user to use other external devices to do simple things like watching Hulu, playing BluRay or watching PBS.

Besides, this whole thing is most likely fake.

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post #58 of 72
2/6/12 at 12:08pm
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So what are you going to do for a job once BB goes belly up? Maybe you can take your "degree" from IT Tech and find a job fixing the work stations at Lens Crafters?

Why have you got to be so condescending to him? What have you ever done?

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post #59 of 72
2/6/12 at 12:32pm
Folks market research or surveys as this is referred to don't have credibility because the intention isn't to reveal product but rather to research the market. It doesn't. Matter either if they are working independent of Apple or in conjunction with them either. As research the info they develope will be useful to any number of manufactures. Thus any of Best Buys partners could be behind the "survey".

People act like this is an attempt to reveal a product when all likely hood it has little to do with Apple. Get a grip people!
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post #60 of 72
2/6/12 at 12:47pm
Wow, and here I thought AppleInsider was king of making up spec sheets for fictional/unannounced Apple products But here are Confirmit and Best Buy doing just that and asking customers if they would buy one. I don't believe Best Buy has any special knowledge of unannounced Apple products before Phil Schiller lifts the veil in front of the press.
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post #61 of 72
2/6/12 at 1:31pm
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Originally Posted by Constable Odo View Post

$1499 is affordable to me since I paid that much about five years ago for a 42" Sony. 42 inches is about as much as I need in display size since my viewing distances are limited. I watch most of my TV via Slingbox on my 15.4" MacBook Pro, so if the AppleTV offers some easy programming choices, I'll go with it. I'm an Apple shareholder so basically when I buy it, it will be using Apple profits to buy the TV which works out perfectly to increase more Apple profitability.

I do realize I could get any decent high-end Samsung, LG, Toshiba, Panasonic or Sony TV, but I'm an Apple supporter and that's just how it will be. I hope Apple goes with that price and I'll bet they make a fortune on sales. I keep my TVs for at least ten years and $1499 over that period means almost nothing to me. If AppleTV offers their usual high-quality product, I don't see how I can go wrong. It will likely have built-in Airport streaming and should work with all my other Apple gear and it should be a breeze to set up. I'm all set for it.

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Folks market research or surveys as this is referred to don't have credibility because the intention isn't to reveal product but rather to research the market. It doesn't. Matter either if they are working independent of Apple or in conjunction with them either. As research the info they develope will be useful to any number of manufactures. Thus any of Best Buys partners could be behind the "survey".

People act like this is an attempt to reveal a product when all likely hood it has little to do with Apple. Get a grip people!

Appleinsider just trolled all of them .
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post #62 of 72
2/6/12 at 2:31pm
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

It would be funny if Apple releases a 21:9 HDTV like Vizio has coming out. If Apple did that it would likely be the only way TVs should come in the future. With HD channels being 16:9 it would leave a good amount of space for the AppleTV UI on the side.


I don't like it. My space is constrained enough as it is, and I want it to be all screen. Apple can figure out a better way than that.

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post #63 of 72
2/6/12 at 2:57pm
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

You are ignoring the possibility that they will market the TV to those who don't care about cable.

I realise this concept is hard to imagine on a male dominated tech site just after the Super Bowl weekend, but I can assure you there are many people who don't care about "live TV" at all.

For example professional sports generally only appeals to about 51% of the public. The "news" hasn't really been worth watching (or really anything that could rightly be called journalism) for decades. Most news junkies get their news on the web. Everything else is easily replaced and mostly has already been replaced by services like iTunes, Netflix, etc.

Internet only VOD is a tiny market imo. I don't see Apple going only there, they need something profitable they can sell in volume. VOD adds value, but the mass market still wants reliable live TV.

Even if they go with cable, you could still use the TV for internet only VOD. And the actual 99$ Apple TV already offers VOD.
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post #64 of 72
2/6/12 at 3:00pm
WHAT IF:

it also comes with an advanced graphic card, meaning that all consoles would become obsolete?

if it has a fast processor and iOS and an advanced graphic card, together with everything we are talking about, oh boy... goodbye xbox, ps, etc.

it would be just brutal!!!
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post #65 of 72
2/6/12 at 3:04pm
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WHAT IF:

it also comes with an advanced graphic card, meaning that all consoles would become obsolete?

if it has a fast processor and iOS and an advanced graphic card, together with everything we are talking about, oh boy... goodbye xbox, ps, etc.

it would be just brutal!!!

No, this will not be happening. Apple. Make another console? No.

Apple. Involve themselves with GOOD graphics cards? No.
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post #66 of 72
2/6/12 at 3:08pm
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

No, this will not be happening. Apple. Make another console? No.

Apple. Involve themselves with GOOD graphics cards? No.

it only has to be good enough for iOS games (we can agree that iOS is more suited than OSX for this tv right?). with their amount of games growing like that, it would be amazing and it would destroy/change/reinvent more industries.

it would also make it (the tv) unique.
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post #67 of 72
2/6/12 at 3:11pm
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it would also make it (the tv) unique.

And obsolete in a year when the next set of consoles comes out. Apple's not big on keeping up in that regard.

When the consoles are designed for a five year lifespan, it's silly to be building one into a TV. And when I get a new console, I don't have to buy a new TV. This way I would.
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post #68 of 72
2/6/12 at 3:17pm
ah... again:

since the itv is much bigger than a tablet (unless we are talking about future android tablets since apple will eat all of the 10inch screens) it would be able to have a nice (it does not have to be 7970) graphics card.

iOS game work and look great without coming close to desktop games requirements, so that would make the iTV a market by itself, with hundreds of games (i am not talking about crisis. i'm talking about GTA 3, infinite blade, angry birds, etc) and the iTV wouldn't become obsolete because games would've been made for it. just like modern consoles are not obsolete because games are made for them. don't forget that it would be more powerful than any tablet.

this would be a great bonus.

since people will keep them as their main tv for maybe 7 years, games would need to have some requirements, so your tv of today would be able to play games from 3 years for now. so apple would just improve the graphics card 2 times per decade. it's cheap and amazing.
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2/6/12 at 3:39pm
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Originally Posted by pedromartins View Post

WHAT IF:

it also comes with an advanced graphic card, meaning that all consoles would become obsolete?

if it has a fast processor and iOS and an advanced graphic card, together with everything we are talking about, oh boy... goodbye xbox, ps, etc.

it would be just brutal!!!

You'd be looking at an ARM Soc.

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it only has to be good enough for iOS games (we can agree that iOS is more suited than OSX for this tv right?). with their amount of games growing like that, it would be amazing and it would destroy/change/reinvent more industries.

it would also make it (the tv) unique.

Again the equivalent of the ipad Soc. I'm not sure how the market would be for this. Hand held gaming systems have always trended toward simpler games and older ports. I don't personally see the appeal in extending that to a stationary form factor. It would probably need to be somewhat closer to console territory to really take off.

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ah... again:

since the itv is much bigger than a tablet (unless we are talking about future android tablets since apple will eat all of the 10inch screens) it would be able to have a nice (it does not have to be 7970) graphics card.

iOS game work and look great without coming close to desktop games requirements, so that would make the iTV a market by itself, with hundreds of games (i am not talking about crisis. i'm talking about GTA 3, infinite blade, angry birds, etc) and the iTV wouldn't become obsolete because games would've been made for it. just like modern consoles are not obsolete because games are made for them. don't forget that it would be more powerful than any tablet.

this would be a great bonus.

since people will keep them as their main tv for maybe 7 years, games would need to have some requirements, so your tv of today would be able to play games from 3 years for now. so apple would just improve the graphics card 2 times per decade. it's cheap and amazing.

People seemed to upgrade televisions more frequently for a few years there. It's just it's back to being a stagnant product that you upgrade when the old one breaks. Personally I don't care for television much, so I'm unwilling to spend much on one. My old one works, and the picture still looks good, so I refuse to buy another until that is no longer the case.
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2/6/12 at 3:39pm
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Originally Posted by herbapou View Post

Internet only VOD is a tiny market imo. I don't see Apple going only there, they need something profitable they can sell in volume. VOD adds value, but the mass market still wants reliable live TV.

Even if they go with cable, you could still use the TV for internet only VOD. And the actual 99$ Apple TV already offers VOD.

I'm not buying this.

It seems like you are taking a huge variety of services and just labelling them "VOD" and dismissing them simultaneously without any real reason.

I know lots of folks (like me) who already get by with just iTunes and Netflix. If you add in Hulu for the US people or something similar in each individual country you've probably covered 90% of the content that people care about already.

Personally I'd rather have long steel needles inserted into my eyes than watch sports but even if I liked it, there are better options for watching sports on the Internet than on TV. If you are a baseball fan for instance you can get MLB-TV and have a far better and more complete experience than worrying about trying to find the games online. The same goes for Hockey in Canada and other sports in other countries.

If the new Apple TV had a lot of apps like this that were essentially channels for a few major content sources like this, I don't see why it wouldn't take off. As I said, with iTunes and Netflix alone, I rarely if ever have to torrent something because it isn't available.
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post #71 of 72
2/6/12 at 3:54pm
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

I'm not buying this.

It seems like you are taking a huge variety of services and just labelling them "VOD" and dismissing them simultaneously without any real reason.

I know lots of folks (like me) who already get by with just iTunes and Netflix. If you add in Hulu for the US people or something similar in each individual country you've probably covered 90% of the content that people care about already.

Personally I'd rather have long steel needles inserted into my eyes than watch sports but even if I liked it, there are better options for watching sports on the Internet than on TV. If you are a baseball fan for instance you can get MLB-TV and have a far better and more complete experience than worrying about trying to find the games online. The same goes for Hockey in Canada and other sports in other countries.

If the new Apple TV had a lot of apps like this that were essentially channels for a few major content sources like this, I don't see why it wouldn't take off. As I said, with iTunes and Netflix alone, I rarely if ever have to torrent something because it isn't available.

You do realize that any modern tv can do exactly what you describe(minus itunes). And apple already sells a little box for $99 that you can hook up to your tv(and replace as needed). So why would apple enter this highly competitive market without some killer feature or new way of providing content? It has to be more than just a tv with apps, as this is already available from many different providers at cut rate prices.
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2/6/12 at 7:23pm
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Originally Posted by Baka-Dubbs View Post

You do realize that any modern tv can do exactly what you describe(minus itunes). And apple already sells a little box for $99 that you can hook up to your tv(and replace as needed). So why would apple enter this highly competitive market without some killer feature or new way of providing content? It has to be more than just a tv with apps, as this is already available from many different providers at cut rate prices.

Agreed. If apple enters the tv market, they're going to arrive with a much better way to watch tv, and that will be the focus. Not countless distracting widgets and apps that have nothing to do with watching television. Not HULU and Netflix channels that every one else has already been offering for years.
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