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Apple on Tuesday notified members of its iOS Developer Program that they will be required to provide high-resolution, Retina Display compatible screenshots when initially submitting or updating an app through iTunes Connect.

The note sent out to third-party software developers says that any future updates will not be approved by Apple unless 960x640 pixel screenshot is included, a change from the company's earlier policy which supported Retina Display screenshots but did not require them.




Previously, non-Retina Display images and apps were scaled up from their native 480x320 pixel resolution on devices that sport the high-resolution display, and many apps in the App Store have yet to support to the higher pixel count.

Currently, the only Apple products to boast the Retina Display are the iPhone 4, iPhone 4S and the fourth generation iPod touch, however speculations that the much-rumored next-generation iPad will include its own high-resolution display have been since early last year.

The iPhone 4 was the first device to use the 960x640 pixel screen, with the display being introduced to the current iteration of the iPod touch in 2010.



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Correct me if I'm wrong but this isn't even saying your app has to be retina-enhanced, just your screenshots. Hopefully no big deal for anyone.
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Stupid title.

Of course they have to submit retina screenshots. Apple only sells one phone that is below their lowest "retina" definition anymore. Developers have known about retina stuff since the introduction of the iPhone 4. If you want to keep making 480x320 apps, go right ahead. See how many people buy them.

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Apple on Tuesday notified members of its iOS Developer Program that they will be required to provide high-resolution, Retina Display compatible screenshots when initially submitting or updating an app through iTunes Connect.

The note sent out to third-party software developers says that any future updates will not be approved by Apple unless 960x640 pixel screenshot is included, a change from the company's earlier policy which supported Retina Display screenshots but did not require them.




Previously, non-Retina Display images and apps were scaled up from their native 480x320 pixel resolution on devices that sport the high-resolution display, and many apps in the App Store have yet to support to the higher pixel count.

Currently, the only Apple products to boast the Retina Display are the iPhone 4, iPhone 4S and the fourth generation iPod touch, however speculations that the much-rumored next-generation iPad will include its own high-resolution display have been since early last year.

The iPhone 4 was the first device to use the 960x640 pixel screen, with the display being introduced to the current iteration of the iPod touch in 2010.



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The odd thing is that none of those is the iPad's native resolution.
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The odd thing is that none of those is the iPad's native resolution.

Shhhhh... Apple's trying to be stealthy about the new iPad. Put your hands over your ears and go, "la la la la la..."
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The odd thing is that none of those is the iPad's native resolution.

Not really. There's no iPad considered 'retina', and that's what this entails.

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post #7 of 39
Huh?!

What's the big deal?
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The odd thing is that none of those is the iPad's native resolution.

I think what you mean to say is that there is currently no shipping iPad with these native resolutions
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First developers are forced to have descriptions and screenshots for the store, now theyre forced to make them the right size!

I wish Apple were more Open, and would let developers have a 3x3 pixel image, an image that shows an entirely different app, or a 24MB TIFF of their cat.
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I think what you mean to say is that there is currently no shipping iPad with these native resolutions


And there never will be. iPad is 1024 × 768 I believe.

What this means is that if your app is not for iPad but instead was designed for iPhone or iPod then it is supposed to be capable of the highest resolution those devices support. If someone were to run that app on an iPad it would need to scale to fill the screen anyway.

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This has nothing to do with iPad. This is about iPhone and iPod Touch.

Retina display iPhone is still lower pixel count than a standard def iPad, so there is no sense in which this is hinting about iPad 3's resolution.
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The odd thing is that none of those is the iPad's native resolution.

The odd thing about your comment is that the title clearly says iPhone and iPod touch. Neither of those is an iPad.
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I really think this notice is geared towards older apps. These specs have been around for a while, though I think they used to be the "maximum" specs.

I submitted my iPhone app back in April of last year and when it came time to submit screenshots these were the specs listed. I checked my iTunes Connect account and all the screenshots I submitted matched these specs.

I suspect that they want older apps updated, and want to make sure that any new apps adhere to these specs.
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Once the last iPhone with 480x320 resolution is off the market next year I wonder if Apple will update iOS 6.0 to allow 1x and 1/2x resolution when using iPhone apps on the iPad instead of the 1x and 2x it currently has and that will only pull the 480x320 resolution not 960x640, even if the app is Retina Display ready.

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Well, the thing is...

Those screenshots are to be used and seen mainly at the iTunes app store. Not on an iPhone or iPad or iPod... but on a Mac.

For me, this just means one thing: Apple is updating its services for a high-res display on retina Macs.
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Well, the thing is...

Those screenshots are to be used and seen mainly at the iTunes app store. Not on an iPhone or iPad or iPod... but on a Mac.

For me, this just means one thing: Apple is updating its services for a high-res display on retina Macs.

You realize the App Store is perfectly viewable on all iDevices and that this is in no way indicative of retina Macs, right?

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This has nothing to do with iPad. This is about iPhone and iPod Touch.

Retina display iPhone is still lower pixel count than a standard def iPad, so there is no sense in which this is hinting about iPad 3's resolution.

I agree, the story isn't about the iPad. AppleInsider seems hell-bent on repeating this particular iPad rumor at every opportunity. I think it's unfair to Apple, which never promised or announced specific features for future iPads. The products should be judged on their own merits (when they are announced), not against the imaginary specs sheet dreamed-up and repeatedly hammered into our skulls by the rumor mill. Repetition of rumors is a rhetorical device, and if recklessly used, it can damage Apple's reputation for no really good reason other than unscrupulous web sites hoping to stir up link traffic. For example, that whole incident with the tech blogosphere exploding in "disappointment" over the iPhone 4S not being called "iPhone 5," not having a big display or aluminum back, things Apple never promised.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but this isn't even saying your app has to be retina-enhanced, just your screenshots. Hopefully no big deal for anyone.


I suspect that it is a step in that direction. First stop, requiring all apps be updated to iOS 4 at a minimum. No more of this writing the app for iOS 3 and never updating it.

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The odd thing is that none of those is the iPad's native resolution.

That would be why it says iPhone and iPod touch but not iPad in the section title \

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You realize the App Store is perfectly viewable on all iDevices and that this is in no way indicative of retina Macs, right?

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Simple...when a new iPhone comes out later this year, the 3GS will go away as the low end leaving only Retina Display models for sale. Developers have a few months to get everything up to date before that happens.

Not really news, just a logical step forward.

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So what exactly does this mean for the iphone5? The rumor is a 4+ inch display and I would assume it would be higher resolution than 960x640 in order to keep the retina claim. Or does Apple just plan to keep the same resolution?

I'm really hoping for a larger iPhone5 screen. Ideally 4.3 inches and 1280 x whatever resolution. In fact I'm seriously considering returning the 4s I just bought and waiting out the four months for the 5. I almost switched to Android because I wanted a bigger screen.
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So what exactly does this mean for the iphone5?

Not 5, and it means absolutely nothing.

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The rumor is a 4+ inch display

No, it isn't. I've only ever seen 3.7", and frankly it shouldn't change at all. A screen greater than 4" is insane for a phone.

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and I would assume it would be higher resolution than 960x640 in order to keep the retina claim. Or does Apple just plan to keep the same resolution?

The latter. It works up to a point, and there's no sense in doing the exact same thing they're just now getting over for the same of a few more pixels for no reason.

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I almost switched to Android because I wanted a bigger screen.

If that's all you care about, please do. I don't really know what else to say. Seriously, if the size of the screen is the only thing you see different about the software and the hardware that accompanies it, your needs won't be served with an Apple product.

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Isn't it logical to ask developers to submit hi-res images? Am puzzled as to how AppleInsider staff made it a news article in the first place.

And 'forced'? Duh.
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No, it isn't. I've only ever seen 3.7", and frankly it shouldn't change at all. A screen greater than 4" is insane for a phone.


If that's all you care about, please do. I don't really know what else to say. Seriously, if the size of the screen is the only thing you see different about the software and the hardware that accompanies it, your needs won't be served with an Apple product.

What do you mean you've only ever seen 3.7"? All the rumors everywhere report 4 inches or bigger. Just run a search for iphone 5. It needs to be 4+ inches to compete in todays smart phone market. Once you get used to a bigger screen it's not an issue anymore.

I have a couple friends with a galaxy nexus (4.5") and one with a galaxy sII(4.3"). They make the iphone look like old tech. Such beautiful screens on those devices. It had me seriosuly questioning whether to stick with Apple. But the rest of the iphone ability and my already invested interest in iOS kept me around. Still, I feel like I made a bad move getting the 4s instead of keeping my 3Gs and waiting for a 5. I know the 5 is going to rock. It's part of that tick tock strategy Apple is on.
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What do you mean you've only ever seen 3.7"? All the rumors everywhere report 4 inches or bigger.

http://www.gsmarena.com/iphone_5_37i...-news-3082.php
http://www.macstories.net/news/iphon...hinner-design/
http://thenextweb.com/apple/2011/04/...od-style-body/
http://www.voiceable.org/iphone-5-display-screen.html
http://www.guidingtech.com/mobiles/i...-inch-display/

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It needs to be 4+ inches to compete in todays smart phone market.

Okay, you ARE just making stuff up. Good; I was worried.

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They make the iphone look like old tech.

Keeps getting better.

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But the rest of the iphone ability and my already invested interest in iOS kept me around.

Ah, see? There's the light.

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submitted my iPhone app back in April of last year and when it came time to submit screenshots these were the specs listed.

I believe those may have been recommended specs before but are now mandatory.
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It needs to be 4+ inches to compete in todays smart phone market.

Can you explain how the first, second and third best selling smartphone models are then competing today?

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Can you explain how the first, second and third best selling smartphone models are then competing today?

They AREN'T competing !!! There is nothing to compete against.

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They AREN'T competing !!! There is nothing to compete against.

Touché!

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Look at the date on all those sites you linked to. April-September 2011. I'm reading rumors from right now, January-February 2012

And they all say iPhone 5, too.

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You may not LIKE it. But that's the future.

No. I'm not buying a larger iPhone.

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That's what most people want from a new iphone.

Certainly explains why a two and a half year old phone with a 3.5" display is outselling every single faster phone with a larger display out there. :roll eyes:

A 9to5 poll means absolutely nothing. 9to5 readers are... well, we have rules here, so I can't say.

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I'm sure Apple will continue to sell the 4S for a couple years. It is a very nice phone, no doubt about that. Because like you, not everyone wants a bigger screen, but most people seem to want that, including myself.

I've been an Apple fan for a long time. I love Apple products. But I have to give kudos where they are deserved and I think Samsung has hit the ball out f the park with their larger super AMOLED displays. Love to see it come to the iPhone, because overall Android is not nearly as polished or easy to use as iOS.
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...most people seem to want that, including myself.

Which is why, again, the 3.5" 2.5 year old 3GS sells better than ANY of those larger screened phones. You're right.

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Which is why, again, the 3.5" 2.5 year old 3GS sells better than ANY of those larger screened phones. You're right.

No you're disregarding the fact that it's an iphone. Between a 3.5 inch iphone and a 4.5 inch android I also chose the iphone because it's an iphone. Given a choice, a bigger iphone would be preferred. But we haven't gotten that choice yet.
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No you're disregarding the fact that it's an iphone. Between a 3.5 inch iphone and a 4.5 inch android I also chose the iphone because it's an iphone. Given a choice, a bigger iphone would be preferred. But we haven't gotten that choice yet.

You just discredited your original comment that "It needs to be 4+ inches to compete in todays smart phone market" as you clearly have shown that there are other merits besides an every increase display size that sells smartphones.

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You just discredited your original comment that "It needs to be 4+ inches to compete in todays smart phone market" as you clearly have shown that there are other merits besides an every increase display size that sells smartphones.

Bigger is not always better, it's how you use it
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You just discredited your original comment that "It needs to be 4+ inches to compete in todays smart phone market" as you clearly have shown that there are other merits besides an every increase display size that sells smartphones.

Perhaps I did. But that doesn't change the fact it's the most desired feature request of a new iPhone. Why are you guys fighting me on this. It seems to be the direction Apple is going in anyway.

I should be used to this after all these years. Apple fans always make excuses for why Apple is lagging behind until the company catches up. Then it becomes totally obvious to all of you that they needed to catch up.
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Perhaps I did. But that doesn't change the fact it's the most desired feature request of a new iPhone.

Sure, but that doesn't mean it needs that to compete. Just look at the iPod and iPad: "Apple needs to add an FM radio to compete," "the iPad is DOA without a real OS."
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Why are you guys fighting me on this. It seems to be the direction Apple is going in anyway[

I should be used to this after all these years. Apple fans always make excuses for why Apple is lagging behind until the company catches up. Then it becomes totally obvious to all of you that they needed to catch up.

Your original statement was either incorrect or simply poorly worded. The reader can make so many leaps in gauging your intent so if your point isn't coming across it's up to you to make your point more clearly not to resort to blaming the reader.

Now I'm all for a 4" iPhone. That is the about the maximum size that will work with a 3:2 aspect ratio... and only if they can reduce the size bezel thickness and back thickness to allow for the about same distance with a thumb sweep while holding in one hand. In fact, I think the platform has matured to a point that a 3.5" and 4" could live side-by-side. I also think LTE chips might only work in the larger casing for 2012 based on what we've seen from other vendors adding LTE to their phones. But all of that are opinions and wishes, not de facto statement about how an obviously successful product won't be able to compete.

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