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Google's Android unit is rumored to be developing a wireless home entertainment system that is capable of streaming music throughout the home, and if launched would be the first consumer electronics product designed and marketed under the Google brand.

Citing sources familiar with the project, The Wall Street Journal reports that the internet search giant's Android mobile platform division has led a "multi-year effort" to develop the system, which is rumored to launch sometime this year.

Thus far, Google has concentrated on developing the software that powers partner Android device makers' hardware, like Samsung's Galaxy line of phones or Google TV products branded by Sony and Logitech.

The proposed wireless system could mark the start of a new era for the company where, much like Apple, it will develop an ecosystem of Google-designed and branded software and hardware.

According to the sources, the system will stream music from Google's online music store to Google-branded speakers or other WiFi-connected devices and can be controlled using a smartphone or tablet, akin to Google TV. However, the device or devices are meant to be a system solution and not just a set-box or integrated TV component made by an outside vendor.

The product described smacks of Apple's AirPlay wireless system, which connects iOS devices and computers running iTunes to Apple TVs, third-party stereos and other enabled devices to stream music and video. Non-AirPlay capable products can also stream audio via output from the company's AirPort Express base station.

While Apple relies on iOS, iTunes and other proprietary software and third-party hardware to power AirPlay, Google will reportedly use a version of its Android platform to do the same.


Apple AirPlay featuring an enabled B&W Zeppelin Air speaker dock. | Source: Apple


Some app developers have bemoaned the Android operating system's fragmentation as many OEMs make tweaks to the software, and was at one point such an issue that Google had to implement stricter "non-fragmentation clauses" to remedy the situation.

The problem of fragmentation is essentially a non-factor for companies that are in control of both the software and hardware facets of product creation. Google could possibly be looking for that level of consistency with the rumored product line.

With its new system, Google hopes to undercut competitors like Sonos, a wireless entertainment system pioneer that focuses solely on streaming music.

Sonos cofounder Tom Cullen notes that from a financial perspective, the idea of relying only on music streaming services would be a misstep for Google.

"I'd be stunned if they actually thought it was worth it, because it's peanuts for them," Cullen said of possible revenue from the venture. Cullen's company managed $200 million in sales last year, compared to Google's $38 billion.

However, the rumored product could indeed support more than just basic audio by leveraging the Android-based Google TV to stream video as well.


Google TV products by Sony and Logitech. | Source: Google


Google's purchase of Motorola Mobility may also yield helpful patents such as "Televation," which allows users to rebroadcast live video content to other devices in the home.

It is unclear how Google intends to market the system, and no estimated was given as to a possible launch date.

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In true Google fashion, the home entertainment system will reportedly enhance the viewing experience by overlaying its own, targeted ads, along with existing ads in program material. Viewing habits will be integrated with other Google monitoring data to improve the relevance of these ads, with the ability to opt-out of pornography.
A future update to the system is expected to monitor room occupancy and home occupancy, identify family members and guests, greet them upon their arrival, bid them adieu, and note their activities on their respective Google+ accounts.
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Welcoming GoogleShare, GoogleMatch and GooglePlay. Revolutionary products based entirely on Apple's similarly named services except for some minor differences as outlined in the previous post. Next up Google Express an Google Extreme which will facilitate these services in a revolutionary and open manner.
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In true Google fashion, the home entertainment system will reportedly enhance the viewing experience by overlaying its own, targeted ads, along with existing ads in program material. Viewing habits will be integrated with other Google monitoring data to improve the relevance of these ads, with the ability to opt-out of pornography.

A future update to the system is expected to monitor room occupancy and home occupancy, identify family members and guests, greet them upon their arrival, bid them adieu, and note their activities on their respective Google+ accounts.

I know you're being facetious, but you probably aren't far from the truth.

The most information Google knows about you the better. Things like what you search for, listen to and watch on TV, the emails you write and your location and movements all add up to to allow Google to target ads at you more accurately.




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Welcoming GoogleShare, GoogleMatch and GooglePlay. Revolutionary products based entirely on Apple's similarly named services except for some minor differences as outlined in the previous post. Next up Google Express an Google Extreme which will facilitate these services in a revolutionary and open manner.

It's probably not fair to give Apple too much credit on this one. The guys at Sonos have been doing this for years.

The wireless music system streaming from Google Music sounds a lot more like Sonos + Pandora/Rhapsody/Spotify than anything Apple do.
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I know you're being facetious, but you probably aren't far from the truth.

The most information Google knows about you the better. Things like what you search for, listen to and watch on TV, the emails you write and your location and movements all add up to to allow Google to target ads at you more accurately.




It's probably not fair to give Apple too much credit on this one. The guys at Sonos have been doing this for years.

The wireless music system streaming from Google Music sounds a lot more like Sonos + Pandora/Rhapsody/Spotify than anything Apple do.

You are wrong. Apple innovated and popularized those
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Google is soooo original these days ... Not. What ever happened to Google Labs and innovation? They will be changing their name to Pomme next!
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Google is soooo original these days ... Not. What ever happened to Google Labs and innovation?

They've been busy with finishing touches on the the HUD glasses?
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Google is soooo original these days ... Not. What ever happened to Google Labs and innovation? They will be changing their name to Pomme next!

There was a Lab explosion. Now Google looks like this...

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There was a Lab explosion. Now Google looks like this...


That is too funny, nearly spilled my Sam Adams.
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In true Google fashion, the home entertainment system will reportedly enhance the viewing experience by overlaying its own, targeted ads, along with existing ads in program material. Viewing habits will be integrated with other Google monitoring data to improve the relevance of these ads, with the ability to opt-out of pornography.
A future update to the system is expected to monitor room occupancy and home occupancy, identify family members and guests, greet them upon their arrival, bid them adieu, and note their activities on their respective Google+ accounts.

True... and with the front facing camera, Google will know what kinds of activity is going on in the room and offer up various program options... like say, porn, for instance.


Personally, I see the undoing of Google as they get further and further away from their core business. Larry Page must have a right arm like a gorilla from all the note-taking he did during the board meetings at Apple.
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Personally, I see the undoing of Google as they get further and further away from their core business. Larry Page must have a right arm like a gorilla from all the note-taking he did during the board meetings at Apple.

I wonder if that is true. That they are moving away from their core business. I mean, it is centered around advertising and search, but what they are doing now will allow them to keep search and advertising. If they never moved into the mobile space and now the home entertainment space, both driven by apps, their search and advertising business might suffer in the future.
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There was a Lab explosion. Now Google looks like this...


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I would refer readers to this website link to get a much better picture of where Google is headed....
http://www.slashgear.com/slashgear-1...home-09212910/

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True... and with the front facing camera, Google will know what kinds of activity is going on in the room and offer up various program options... like say, porn, for instance.

With front facing camera, forget about Google Street. Welcome the new overlord, Google Home.

On topic: Can you opt out from data mining?
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I would refer readers to this website link to get a much better picture of where Google is headed....
http://www.slashgear.com/slashgear-1...home-09212910/


I thought everybody knew that. Still not a single innovative thing in that link, or something you simply say "Wow!".
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I know you're being facetious, but you probably aren't far from the truth.

Yes, and far from being innovative, if one merely thinks about the different ways one could spy on--and exploit--others if given the technical ability (never mind the ethics or legality, which Google ignores anyway), well, you're in tune with Google's business plan. Government regulators are way behind the curve on this. We have lots of regulations concerning human subjects research, but virtually nothing governing electronic surveillance of human subjects.
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On topic: Can you opt out from data mining?

If it falls under the simplified "privacy" umbrella Google is rolling out next month? NO.

N.B. privacy does not equal anonymity.
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True... and with the front facing camera, Google will know what kinds of activity is going on in the room and offer up various program options... like say, porn, for instance.


Personally, I see the undoing of Google as they get further and further away from their core business. Larry Page must have a right arm like a gorilla from all the note-taking he did during the board meetings at Apple.

You have no idea what you're talking about.
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I would refer readers to this website link to get a much better picture of where Google is headed....
http://www.slashgear.com/slashgear-1...home-09212910/


fine. and is there a single new idea there? every company with "smart home" products - there are more every month - is already coming out with iOS/Android control apps for them now. media, security, utilities, appliances, you name it. via wifi, bluetooth, or wall circuit ethernet connection to your LAN. to the extent the UI"s are improved for each, it's a big plus. but how will Google add any more value to this - for consumers, not advertisers?

Google is starting to look more like MS of old - chase every digital fad with your own copy cat product.
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I don't know about others, but I just don't associate Google with home entertainment.
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I thought everybody knew that. Still not a single innovative thing in that link, or something you simply say "Wow!".

IMO, this one in a "Wow", unless you're not easily impressed. In that case a new iPad or iPhone must be downright boring to you.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2399910,00.asp
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Google's Android unit is rumored to be developing a wireless home entertainment system that is capable of streaming music throughout the home, and if launched would be the first consumer electronics product designed and marketed under the Google brand.

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Google's purchase of Motorola Mobility may also yield helpful patents such as "Televation," which allows users to rebroadcast live video content to other devices in the home.

It is unclear how Google intends to market the system, and no estimated was given as to a possible launch date.

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Unless Google starts behaving like a responsible adult over FRAND patents then I am voting with all my hands, feet and electronic devices and dumping Google applications, services and products, not that Android was EVER of any interest. With the support of Cisco and Microsoft, Apple SHOULD be going thermonuclear on stolen IP, its not like Apple haven't contributed to the FRAND patent pool.
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IMO, this one in a "Wow", unless you're not easily impressed. In that case a new iPad or iPhone must be downright boring to you.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2399910,00.asp

Thank you for the link. Wearable computer isn't new. In fact, Google just hired away an expert working at Apple on this kind of technology last year. I'm always excited about wearable computer. I even hope Apple will make iWatch one day but sorry, Google didn't have a good track record to make me excited about this. They just didn't think outside the box enough, you know, product always made from engineer perspective, something like that. But if you never know about wearable computer then I guess you could be very excited about it. Personally, I think robot driving car is more cool.

But on this home entertainment project I admit when the news broke about the Google secret project and someone speculated it will be a gaming device I was a bit excited about it.
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In true Google fashion, the home entertainment system will reportedly enhance the viewing experience by overlaying its own, targeted ads, along with existing ads in program material. Viewing habits will be integrated with other Google monitoring data to improve the relevance of these ads, with the ability to opt-out of pornography.
A future update to the system is expected to monitor room occupancy and home occupancy, identify family members and guests, greet them upon their arrival, bid them adieu, and note their activities on their respective Google+ accounts.

I suggested that last year as soon as Google announced their intention to buy Moto. With Google's strategy of using every bit of personal information they can get and advertising everything (as well as their incessant efforts to violate everyone's IP but their own), the idea of Google controlling so many of the country's cable boxes is scary.

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IMO, this one in a "Wow", unless you're not easily impressed. In that case a new iPad or iPhone must be downright boring to you.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2399910,00.asp

Other than, of course, the fact that this technology has been available for ages and people have been talking about it for years before Google even existed.
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On topic: Can you opt out from data mining?



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You are wrong. Apple innovated and popularized those

Yep, Apple looked at the pre-existing DLNA specification and created their own proprietary version with Airplay. Very innovative.
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I don't know about others, but I just don't associate Google with home entertainment.

word...and I hear Apple wants to make an MP3 player? HHAHAHA crazy talk.
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Other than, of course, the fact that this technology has been available for ages and people have been talking about it for years before Google even existed.

Heck so were tablets, and they've been talked about for years too. That doesn't mean the iPad isn't inventive, creative and breaking new ground does it? At least give credit where it's due instead of automatically dismissing it if Google's the creator instead of Apple.
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Heck so were tablets, and they've been talked about for years too. That doesn't mean the iPad isn't inventive, creative and breaking new ground does it? At least give credit where it's due instead of automatically dismissing it if Google's the creator instead of Apple.

You're the one claiming that Google is so innovative. Why don't you show us what's so immensely innovative about these goggles and why they're different from anything that existed before?
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You're the one claiming that Google is so innovative. Why don't you show us what's so immensely innovative about these goggles and why they're different from anything that existed before?

Show me the glasses with those features that exist now.

I'm not claiming Google to be "so innovative", nor am I saying they aren't. I am saying that this particular HUD glasses development is.
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True... and with the front facing camera, Google will know what kinds of activity is going on in the room and offer up various program options... like say, porn, for instance.


Personally, I see the undoing of Google as they get further and further away from their core business. Larry Page must have a right arm like a gorilla from all the note-taking he did during the board meetings at Apple.

Although I could be wrong (and excuse me if someone has already pointed this out), but I believe it was Eric Schmidt rather than Larry Page that did all the note taking at the Apple Board meetings. Eric's gorilla arm, long atrophied by lack of exercise since being ostracized from 1 Infinite Loop, is today no more than the nub Steve Jobs left him. Accordingly, Google has shuffled him to a more "fitting" role now that he is no longer valuable in the same way he was while walking the halls at Cupertino.

As an aside, I remember reading that Steve and Eric had an outdoor Latte at a nearby bistro in Cupertino not long after Schmidt was chopped off at the knees - and Steve was supposedly overheard saying something like "... they'll know it soon enough anyway." I will always wonder what that was about.
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This is just a fleshing out of the Google@home concept demoed at I/O 2011.

And I don't get why everybody is jumping to conclusions that it's going to be Google branded hardware that competes with Sonos. All based on the hardware they have Googlers to test? I'm sure a bunch of Googlers tested phones too when Google was jumping into that market. And yet Google has never directly competed with the OEMs choosing instead to make its Nexus phones current but never top of the line (the focus is more on launching the latest Android version). I'm sure this is simply something to develop the Google@home concept. They demoed playing music with the touch of an NFC tag (oddly on the back of a CD). And they demoed controlling speakers and lighting. I don't see how this is all that different.
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(Jragosta)Show me the glasses with those features that exist now.
I'm not claiming Google to be "so innovative", nor am I saying they aren't. I am saying that this particular HUD glasses development is.

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Although I could be wrong (and excuse me if someone has already pointed this out), but I believe it was Eric Schmidt rather than Larry Page that did all the note taking at the Apple Board meetings. Eric's gorilla arm, long atrophied by lack of exercise since being ostracized from 1 Infinite Loop, is today no more than the nub Steve Jobs left him. Accordingly, Google has shuffled him to a more "fitting" role now that he is no longer valuable in the same way he was while walking the halls at Cupertino.

As an aside, I remember reading that Steve and Eric had an outdoor Latte at a nearby bistro in Cupertino not long after Schmidt was chopped off at the knees - and Steve was supposedly overheard saying something like "... they'll know it soon enough anyway." I will always wonder what that was about.

well actually it was "nobody" who was taking notes...or at least that's what reality tells us as no action has been taken towards Schmidt, Google, etc based on that ridiculous "grassy knoll" esque theory that circulates many Apple sites.
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Personally, I see the undoing of Google as they get further and further away from their core business.

Google sees it, too. They're getting squeezed mightily by Apple. Watch (out) as Google gets increasingly desperate for growth.
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Google sees it, too. They're getting squeezed mightily by Apple. Watch (out) as Google gets increasingly desperate for growth.

Apple and Google see their primary income from two different areas and really overlap very little as direct competitors. That's one reason they would have made ideal partners had they not had the spat over an OS.

Of course in my opinion Apple would have eventually left them on the sidelines anyway. They don't keep most partners around all that long. They either eat them or spit them out for another.
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well actually it was "nobody" who was taking notes...or at least that's what reality tells us as no action has been taken towards Schmidt, Google, etc based on that ridiculous "grassy knoll" esque theory that circulates many Apple sites.



Google CEO Eric Schmidt has resigned from Apple's board today citing a conflict of interest.http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2009/08/03Dr-Eric-Schmidt-Resigns-from-Apples-Board-of-Directors.html

Apple CEO Steve Jobs last week likened Google's "Don't be evil" mantra to the excreta of a bull... Jobs aired some strong perspectives about Google to the assembled throng, saying: "We did not enter the search business. They entered the phone business. Make no mistake they want to kill the iPhone. We won't let them."http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10444817-71.html
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Of course after you have bought all this, a few month later Google will decide to abandon it and all upgrades as they go off on another 'copy Apple' tactic.
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Show me the glasses with those features that exist now.

I'm not claiming Google to be "so innovative", nor am I saying they aren't. I am saying that this particular HUD glasses development is.

Those things were available for the Amiga 800 twenty-five years ago.
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Those things were available for the Amiga 800 twenty-five years ago.

Oh, I'd love to see your link to the specs on that one.So how was the cell signal on those things?
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