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Apple this week filed a new lawsuit in the U.S. against rival Samsung, with the latest complaint related to autocorrection of spelling, as well as unlocking a device from its touchscreen.

The latest suit, filed on Wednesday, seeks a preliminary injunction against Samsung products Apple believes are infringing upon its own patented inventions. Specific details of the case, which emanates from U.S. District Court in San Jose, were not made available for viewing online after they were entered into the court.

However, named filings listed in the court system reveal at least four different patents cited by Apple in the case. The patents are named through expert declarations filed by Apple as part of the suit. The four patents named with experts are:

U.S. Patent No. 8,074,172 - "Method, System, and Graphical User Interface for Providing Word Recommendations"

U.S. Patent No. 5,946,647 - "System and Method for Performing an Action on a Structure in Computer-Generated Data"

U.S. Patent No. 8,046,721 - "Unlocking a Device by Performing Gestures on an Unlock Image"

U.S. Patent No. 8,086,604 - "Universal Interface for Retrieval of Information in a Computer System"

Named as the three defendants in the suit are Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd., of Korea, Samsung Electronics America, Inc., based out of New York, and Samsung Telecommunications America, LLC., a Delaware company. The patent infringement suit has been assigned to Judge Lucy H. Koh.




Exactly what products are being targeted in Apple's latest filing is not known, as the complaint itself has not been made public. Previous patent lawsuits filed by Apple have taken aim at Samsung's Galaxy line of smartphones and tablets, which Apple believes have illegally copied the look and feel of the iPhone and iPad.

Last month, Apple filed another suit in Germany against Samsung, accusing the device maker of infringing upon its patented "slide-to-unlock" invention. That's just one of many legal battles that are ongoing between the two rivals.

Lawsuits between Samsung and Apple first began last April when Apple filed the first complaint. They have since continued to grow, and now span over 10 countries across four continents.

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Oh sweet heavens, we're going to have to suffer through twenty pages of the anti-Apple guys here telling us what the definition of 'swipe' is, aren't we?

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Oh sweet heavens, we're going to have to suffer through twenty pages of the anti-Apple guys here telling us what the definition of 'swipe' is, aren't we?

I hope not. Personally I'd rather see the the whole comments section get locked. The majority of will probably read like facts, instead really be just opinions, and have little basis in the real world anyway.

You don't have any way to lock a thread do you?

(Only half-kidding)
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Whoever made the auto-correct feature (and apparently patented it) must be smoking some very good stuff
http://damnyouautocorrect.com/
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Oh sweet heavens, we're going to have to suffer through twenty pages of the anti-Apple guys here telling us what the definition of 'swipe' is, aren't we?

no, you can happily ignore it.
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no, you can happily ignore it.

That would be neglecting my duties. Gotta cycle through every once in a while to find the spam, insults, and trolling.

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That would be neglecting my duties. Gotta cycle through every once in a while to find the spam, insults, and trolling.

Seems like those still happen.
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You don't have any way to lock a thread do you?

A reverse swipe surely?
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Seems like those still happen.

Spam I doubt.

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A reverse swipe surely?

Silly, that's a physical button on top. Surely a patent Apple had to license.
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Looks like Apple has finally gotten the message that "design patents" are useless to lob against others.

They arent so brainless after all.

Wait let me correct that: they still are.

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Spam I doubt.

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Insults? Trolling? Here?
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Whoever made the auto-correct feature (and apparently patented it) must be smoking some very good stuff
http://damnyouautocorrect.com/

I was just about to post the same URL. The phrase "damn you autocorrect" is now used when anything doesn't work properly in our household.

I guess it's not a prerequisite that a technology actually work well for it to be patented.
 
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Apple this week filed a new lawsuit in the U.S. against rival Samsung, with the latest complaint related to autocorrection of spelling, as well as unlocking a device from its touchscreen. ...

I like the fact that the lawsuits are getting much more focussed now. These are probably the four strongest cases they have for infringement and are much more concrete than the "look and feel" design lawsuits.

I don't think Samsung (or anyone), has a chance with the swipe to unlock thing. Apple definitely invented it, and seems to have a very concise, valid patent IMO.
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I don't think Samsung (or anyone), has a chance with the swipe to unlock thing. Apple definitely invented it, and seems to have a very concise, valid patent IMO.

Unless, of course, "start in the middle of a circle and move to the outside of said circle by swiping with your finger" can be called something different.

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I like the fact that the lawsuits are getting much more focussed now. These are probably the four strongest cases they have for infringement and are much more concrete than the "look and feel" design lawsuits.

I don't think Samsung (or anyone), has a chance with the swipe to unlock thing. Apple definitely invented it, and seems to have a very concise, valid patent IMO.

Pick a different gesture then and problem solved assuming that the patenting of gestures is determined patentable (obviously I'm not an expert on the details of patent law). This just looks like patent trolling anyway. Apple wants to limit the competition, so they look for anything that could be interpreted as infringement on one of many vague patents. They're just tying up the court systems.
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Insults? Trolling? Here?

None of that here
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Steve Jobs will smilng a little on this..decision.
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There is a queue 3 miles long at the local patent office.
Methinks everyone from the dance studio is getting some moves patented so that they are the ones with the 'stock routine'.
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Go get 'em! Sue the hell out of those bastards!

I agree with all of Apple's lawsuits and I look forward to plenty more in the future!
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God I'm sick of the lawsuits. We're all having to pay for it in the price of the products we buy.

The patent system desperately needs to be overhauled.
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Unless, of course, "start in the middle of a circle and move to the outside of said circle by swiping with your finger" can be called something different.

I'm pretty sure Apple has a lock on that one, but I'm not a lawyer.

I said something similar a few months ago and several people challenged me on it so I went back and read the entire patent wording very carefully and (IMO of course), I don't see how Samsung (or any Android vendor) can get around it.

I'm fine with that anyway since it's pretty clear that (whatever the courts decide), Apple *did* in fact come up with the idea first.

No one has yet come forward with anything that really similar as prior art or in fact claimed that they invented it first. Those arguing against it are merely arguing that they should be allowed to copy it because it's "obvious," which is the defence of pretty much every IP thief.

I hope they win anyway. I've had a few of my ideas stolen myself and I'm always on the side of the inventor/artist over those who are just users.
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Pick a different gesture then and problem solved assuming that the patenting of gestures is determined patentable (obviously I'm not an expert on the details of patent law). This just looks like patent trolling anyway. Apple wants to limit the competition, so they look for anything that could be interpreted as infringement on one of many vague patents. They're just tying up the court systems.

I think you are uninformed on the facts.

The patent in question is hardly vague. If they lose the case at all it will be because the patent is in fact overly specific.

The facts would also indicate that far from just being obstructionist or using patents as a weapon, Apple is actually interested in protecting it's original ideas. The screen unlock is definitely an original Apple idea as are the data detectors.

The only way you rationally conclude Apple was interested in pushing these patents for other reasons than protecting their original IP is if you can prove that they aren't in fact original ideas.
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I'm pretty sure Apple has a lock on that one, but I'm not a lawyer.

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I see what you did there.

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My apologise to Gatorguy and AbsoluteDesignz if I ever compared you to Galbi.

I don't think you ever have.
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Prior art be dammed!

What amazing thing will Apple patent next? Sliced bread?

No, no, I'm only joking about the sliced bread -- stop lining up at the apple stores with $700 in your hands.

Of course when they do patent "Sliced Bread" they'll sue all the bakeries that have been making it for years.

"Gee, Grandpa, what did Apple do before they were patent trolls?"
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Why have you created two accounts? This is against the rules.

Why are you trolling with this post? This is just silly.

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Why have you created two accounts? This is against the rules.

Why are you trolling with this post? This is just silly.

Don' t you think?

And by the way this whole thread is trolling. Or does it only count when the troller is using common sense?
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What is Apple afraid of?
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Prior art be dammed!

What amazing thing will Apple patent next? Sliced bread?

No, no, I'm only joking about the sliced bread -- stop lining up at the apple stores with $700 in your hands.

Of course when they do patent "Sliced Bread" they'll sue all the bakeries that have been making it for years.

"Gee, Grandpa, what did Apple do before they were patent trolls?"

They can move to circle sliced bread, but would be sued still
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God I'm sick of the lawsuits. We're all having to pay for it in the price of the products we buy.

The patent system desperately needs to be overhauled.

At least you are getting something great in return!
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What is Apple afraid of?

Forced to use Bing?
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Don' t you think?

And by the way this whole thread is trolling. Or does it only count when the troller is using common sense?

By the way, thanks for "sharing" about the two accounts (snitch). As you can clearly see (administrator), one was never authorized, i.e. I made a mistake the first time. Feel free to delete the account I've never used.

Any more "damming" secrets you want to share about me? I'm sure you can find some if you dig around enough. And by all means, avoid the point.

Good. Now maybe we can get back to the point.

Do you consider suing for "autocorrect" a patent troll activity, that screams "We can't compete with Samsung, so we better try another chickensh*t lawsuit."

The patent will be invalidated. There's prior art everywhere. Apple probably doesn't even expect it to stand up in court. They're just doing what Microsoft perfected years ago. FUD.
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What is Apple afraid of?

What are you afraid of? Coming here under false pretenses with two accounts?
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By the way, thanks for "sharing" about the two accounts (snitch). As you can clearly see (administrator), one was never authorized, i.e. I made a mistake the first time. Feel free to delete the account I've never used.

You can always change your user information after the fact. The only thing you can't change is the username itself.

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Good. Now maybe we can get back to the point.

You don't have a point. Your point is trolling, and there's no call for responses to that.

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Do you consider suing for "autocorrect" a patent troll activity, that screams "We can't compete with Samsung, so we better try another chickensh*t lawsuit."

Imagine that, but sixteen times larger. "Can't compete with Samsung". I can't even BREATHE right now!

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The patent will be invalidated. There's prior art everywhere. Apple probably doesn't even expect it to stand up in court. They're just doing what Microsoft perfected years ago. FUD.

So Microsoft has a patent for the exact same implementation of autocorrect that Apple has patented and is asserting here? Seems strange that they'd NEVER USE IT in any of their products, then, given how much better Apple's autocorrect is than anything else available.

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What is Apple afraid of?

Create an account just to troll?

Grow up.

Competition isn't based upon copying the other guys work and then crying wolf. That's theft.

Get used to Samsung getting held up in court for years.
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I was just about to post the same URL. The phrase "damn you autocorrect" is now used when anything doesn't work properly in our household.

I guess it's not a prerequisite that a technology actually work well for it to be patented.

AutoMisTypeAhead ate my homework...
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Unless, of course, "start in the middle of a circle and move to the outside of said circle by swiping with your finger" can be called something different.

foreplay?

Edit: On second thought... "Slide to Unlock" and "foreplay" are just two different phrases describing the same activity...


Then, there's this....

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Question. Is this patent for the general notion of autocorrection or does Samsung's modification border too close to iOS implementation?

I know Samsung loves to rip off Apple so if it's modified to be like iOS then I hope Samsung loses.

If it is the other way then I hope Apple loses as I don't feel the notion of autocorrect should be patentable.


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You haven't. All is good.
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