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The newest patent infringement suit filed against Samsung last week represents Apple's strongest case yet against the rival smartphone maker, according to a new analysis.

Analyst Mike Abramksy with RBC Capital Markets said in a note to investors Monday that although Apple's previous lawsuits against Samsung have failed to gain an injunction against the Korean company's products, Apple is not backing down. The latest lawsuit, filed in California last week, is based on what he sees as "much stronger patents" than previous lawsuits.

"The smartphone patent war is now at its highest intensity," Abramsky said. "While Apple's litigation to date has failed to produce any significant wins, Apple is now bringing its strongest patents into the war."

Specifically, the complaint seeks an injunction against sales of the Samsung Galaxy Nexus Smartphone, which is Google's Android 4.0 "Ice Cream Sandwich" flagship device. Named in Apple's latest complaint are four patents:

U.S. Patent No. 5,946,647, related to a link for structures and validated in Apple's U.S. International Trade Commission case against HTC.

U.S. Patent No. 8,074,172, which pertains to predictive text.

U.S. Patent No. 8,046,721, a patented invention for the "slide to unlock" function found on iOS devices.

U.S. Patent No. 8,086,604, related to Siri voice commands and unified search.

In addition, Abramsky said that Apple's latest case has strengthened the company's argument on why it would be irreparably harmed in the absence of a preliminary injunction.

In his eyes, if Apple wins a preliminary injunction against the Galaxy Nexus and sales of it are barred in the U.S., Samsung would likely appeal and may end up removing infringing features from its handset, like unified search, slide to unlock and predictive text. Removing those features "would materially diminish the Nexus' experience vs. iPhone," he wrote.




In addition, if Apple were to win the case against Samsung, Abramsky believes it could raise the stakes for other smartphone makers with handsets that run Android 4.0 if the infringing features are part of Google's build of the operating system.

If Apple loses the latest effort for an injunction against Samsung, the lawsuit will proceed to a full trial, which could take between two and three years to start. Regardless, Abramsky believes that Apple will "continue its barrage of patent litigation," and may use feedback from the court to file even stronger motions for preliminary injunctions against Android devices in the future.

Apple's legal assault against Samsung and other Android-based device makers began last April, when Apple fired its first lawsuit against Samsung, accusing the company of copying the look and feel of the iPhone and iPad. Lawsuits between the two corporations now span over 10 countries across four continents.

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Apple needs to innovate not litigate.
Apple is afraid of any real competition.
Apple can't compete on a level playing field.
Apple must be scared that Android is winning.


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Apple needs to innovate not litigate.
Apple is afraid of any real competition.
Apple can't compete on a level playing field.
Apple must be scared that Android is winning.


Did I miss any of the typical lame talking points?

Yep.

Apple will be out of the cell phone business by the end of the year, so it's a moot point, anyway.
Apple copied everything from Android, so how dare they sue?
Patents shouldn't be allowed. They interfere with competition.
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Yep.

Apple will be out of the cell phone business by the end of the year, so it's a moot point, anyway.
Apple copied everything from Android, so how dare they sue?
Patents shouldn't be allowed. They interfere with competition.

Don't forget
Apple fanboys are too stupid to know Android is better.
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When every argument made by anti-Apple people can be distilled from twenty page threads down to three posts, you know something's wrong with the other side.

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We keep hearing that these Apple patents are so solid, yet none have gained any traction in the USA. The Verge did a big writeup on the first barrage of patents, and I thought this would all be over by now, but, I'm starting to think that all of this is just for PR purposes. Whatever.

I used a friend's Motorola (?) Cruze the other day, and it was unusable. If that's any indication of Android tablets, people who use them have very low expectations.
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Talk about your "full court press"!

I get the feeling this isn't going to end until one of the two companies is dead.
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Originally Posted by gordy View Post

I used a friend's Motorola (?) Cruze the other day, and it was unusable. If that's any indication of Android tablets, people who use them have very low expectations.

The thing is, Apple really changed the world with iOS. An iOS-knockoff (which Android undoubtedly is) is still just plain awesome compared to anything that existed pre-iPhone and pre-iPad.

So people who don’t realize that something so much better exists are just like people pre-iPhone: I know would have taken any Android device back then and loved it!

So I think thats the reason for the low expectations. Plus general anti-Apple sentiment that I can’t even begin to explain. Yes, they priced way too high in the 90s, but do people still hold that grudge? Even back then, they made good products.
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Oh, and in every single thread about this stuff, these two images remain relevant.





You see how different and interesting phones and tablets were before the iPhone and iPad, respectively?

THEY WERE ALL INNOVATING BACK THEN. ALL OF THEM. As much as all of those devices sucked, that was the golden age of innovation.

Now ONE company is. ONE. And people still whine that Apple should "focus on innovating instead of suing".

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Originally Posted by solipsismx View Post

apple needs to innovate not litigate.:: So does android..like microsoft just did.
apple is afraid of any real competition.::: It's the no1 valued co. The in the world.
apple can't compete on a level playing field.::: Sorry there smart.
apple must be scared that android is winning.::: Its owns 80 percent of the smartphone market for profits...please take that statement back unless u think they need 100 percent to be winning..


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you missed nothing...thank you.
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Getting an injunction of any kind in the United States is pretty hard, and winning a preliminary one is much harder than that.

This case may move forward, but I doubt an injunction is coming anytime soon.
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The comical part of this forum is that if the reverse was in gear, and Google (or any of Android's manufacturers) were suing Apple, you would all cry foul.

In fact, when those manufacturers do press litigation back at Apple, you all cry foul.

To change direction, I would personally like to see a paradigm change in the industry, where when someone purchases a phone, they are free to install whatever OS on it they choose, just like one can elect to do with a computer. You shouldn't be locked in to iOS, WP7, Android, or anything else.

And I also personally think it's a travesty that by being "locked" to an OS by carrier and manufacturer, one is practically forced to upgrade hardware in order to upgrade software. I have a 2 year old Android phone running the latest version of Android, and it works wonderfully.

Throwing away hardware annually for no reason makes no sense economically and only generates additional (unnecessary) waste, and that's why I support Android--and want to see it's environment opened further, so that phones can be promoted to longer lifespans with the ability to have the latest software.

Apple, although they do a respectable job in updating their own software, forces Apple consumers to upgrade as a consequence of buying their products. This is evident in the additional support jailbreaking brings to iDevices.
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As our great moderator states, Troll comments summed up in a few short wafts of halitosis infused effluence, AKA Troll Post.... I read often but post in a most circumscribed manner, and while it is interesting to read the real threads, I find it most amusing that there are some in attendance for such puerile banality, that it leads one to believe they are in a most dire and severe need of coitus!

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Oh, and in every single thread about this stuff, these two images remain relevant.

I just want to point out those images have likely been purposefully crafted to show Apple in the best light. Just check out this image, which gives another true selection of tablets, before and after iPad.

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The comical part of this forum is that if the reverse was in gear, and Google (or any of Android's manufacturers) were suing Apple, you would all cry foul.

In fact, when those manufacturers do press litigation back at Apple, you all cry foul.

Oh, we missed one. "Apple suing is wrong, everyone else suing Apple is right."

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To change direction, I would personally like to see a paradigm change in the industry, where when someone purchases a phone, they are free to install whatever OS on it they choose,

No, the software makers need to be in charge, not the hardware makers. Apple dictates the buttons on iDevices. Google dictates the buttons on Android devices. Microsoft dictates the buttons on Windows Phone 7 devices.

The reverse wouldn't work.

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You shouldn't be locked in to iOS, WP7, Android, or anything else.

You're not. Buy whatever phone you wish.

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And I also personally think it's a travesty that by being "locked" to an OS by carrier and manufacturer, one is practically forced to upgrade hardware in order to upgrade software.

Or you can just buy an iDevice and get software updates for three years.

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I have a 2 year old Android phone running the latest version of Android, and it works wonderfully.

So you've just disproven your own point…?

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Throwing away hardware annually for no reason makes no sense economically and only generates additional (unnecessary) waste,

Well, yeah. But that's not the prevailing opinion with iPhones, which is what you're implying…

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and that's why I support Android

The… OS known for the fewest updates given to brand new phones… right…

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Apple, although they do a respectable job in updating their own software, forces Apple consumers to upgrade as a consequence of buying their products.

THREE. YEARS. LATER. Apple forces NO ONE to do ANYTHING. You can buy a new iDevice or you can just update the software on your existing one. You're telling me that brand new Android phones don't have hardware and software features different from older ones? It's the exact same situation over there.

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This is evident in the additional support jailbreaking brings to iDevices.

You mean "removal of all support", right?

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I just want to point out those images have likely been purposefully crafted to show Apple in the best light. Just check out this image, which gives another true selection of tablets, before and after iPad.

Before the iPad, I see full desktop Windows. After the iPad, I see grids of icons/images/etc.

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Originally Posted by Shidell View Post

The comical part of this forum is that if the reverse was in gear, and Google (or any of Android's manufacturers) were suing Apple, you would all cry foul.

In fact, when those manufacturers do press litigation back at Apple, you all cry foul.

To change direction, I would personally like to see a paradigm change in the industry, where when someone purchases a phone, they are free to install whatever OS on it they choose, just like one can elect to do with a computer. You shouldn't be locked in to iOS, WP7, Android, or anything else.

And I also personally think it's a travesty that by being "locked" to an OS by carrier and manufacturer, one is practically forced to upgrade hardware in order to upgrade software. I have a 2 year old Android phone running the latest version of Android, and it works wonderfully.

Throwing away hardware annually for no reason makes no sense economically and only generates additional (unnecessary) waste, and that's why I support Android--and want to see it's environment opened further, so that phones can be promoted to longer lifespans with the ability to have the latest software.

Apple, although they do a respectable job in updating their own software, forces Apple consumers to upgrade as a consequence of buying their products. This is evident in the additional support jailbreaking brings to iDevices.

Never going to happen.

Licenses (Windows mobile)
Locked OS (iOS)
Fee OS (Android, Meego, WebOS)

Support cost for manufactures would sore
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

Apple needs to innovate not litigate.
Apple is afraid of any real competition.
Apple can't compete on a level playing field.
Apple must be scared that Android is winning.


Did I miss any of the typical lame talking points?

Are you just trolling through?

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post #18 of 145
I do not think Apple has a ground on the last three patents in the list.

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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

U.S. Patent No. 8,074,172, which pertains to predictive text.

Apple's implementation of auto-correct is a joke and not even worth copying.

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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

U.S. Patent No. 8,046,721, a patented invention for the "slide to unlock" function found on iOS devices.

Can be easily worked around.

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U.S. Patent No. 8,086,604, related to Siri voice commands and unified search.

Must be a prior art.

Where the heck the patents that truly define the iPhone experience?
-Inertial scrolling
-Capacitive touch screen
-Multi-touch gestures like pinch-to-zoom, rotate
-Screen transitions on a mobile device as way to work around display size limitations
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Don't forget
Apple fanboys are too stupid to know Android is better.

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post #20 of 145
Suddenly Mike Abramksy is a patent attorney? Whatever.

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Before the iPad, I see full desktop Windows. After the iPad, I see grids of icons/images/etc.

Point taken, but please use the image I supplied in the multitude of forums you will post in the future, because I was comparing hardware in this regard. Obviosuly the absolute worse devices (the rugged models) were chosen to represent Windows slates - which allows for a bias interpretation.

Also one tablet that really should be on this list, is the HP Slate, demostrated a week before iPad 1 release.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/the-hp-slate/
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Originally Posted by AnOldAplGuy View Post

As our great moderator states, Troll comments summed up in a few short wafts of halitosis infused effluence, AKA Troll Post.... I read often but post in a most circumscribed manner, and while it is interesting to read the real threads, I find it most amusing that there are some in attendance for such puerile banality, that it leads one to believe they are in a most dire and severe need of coitus!

OH, and maybe re-locate from living in their mommy's basement!

You make fun of "puerile banality" just to end your comment with a slam about living in a basement and not having sex is in discordance of your contrafribblarities. I'd hate for you be anuspeptic, phrasmotic, or even compunctious to have caused you such pericombobulation.

PS: Using $5 words doesn't work unless you also possess the ability to present them in the appropriate sentence structure.

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Are you just trolling through?

Because I didn't add anything to the conversation... much like your post?

My attempt was at humour, was yours? Now whether I achieved that goal is another issue.

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Is it a slow news day or something? This story just got recycled from 2/10.

For anyone that has gone through the patent process they will know that the patents granted are quite restrictive. You have to go into multiple details on why your invention is different which narrows your patent's function before it will be granted.

For example the slide to unlock. You move your finger in a predetermined motion, left to right, and then "boom" you unlock your phone. This is so you don't unlock your phone accidentally. I have the ipod touch so I see how this works first hand.

I also have a Samsung Galaxy S2. With regards to their unlocking feature it isn't as predetermine but dictated by a certain motion that isn't accidental. I can slide from right to left, diagonally, make a J shaped motion, make a V motion, etc and it will unlock.

I doubt most of these patents can hold their weight and even if they do, it can be easily worked around like HTC with the highlighting of a phone number or Samsung with their 10.1N tablet.

It's not like it's an essential FRAND but that's for another story.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Oh, we missed one. "Apple suing is wrong, everyone else suing Apple is right."

You just validated my point. You are so emotionally attached to Apple that you feel they're always right, and everyone else is always wrong.

Litigation like this is nonsense.

Slide to unlock has been around forever.

Patenting a method of transferring bits in order to relay data? Yes, that is absolutely every digital device in existence.

Everyone knows these types of patents (and patent cases) are bogus.
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Obviously, you do not know how to read or write, "I'd hate for you be", come on.... Bring it! Imbecile, maybe you should go watch a re-run of Fat Albert...

You might want to form your responses without calling people names.

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You make fun of "puerile banality" just to end your comment with a slam about living in a basement and not having sex is in discordance of your contrafribblarities. I'd hate for you be anuspeptic, phrasmotic, or even compunctious to have caused you such pericombobulation.

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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

You might want to form your responses without calling people names.

You might want to critique from a perspective of knowledge then....
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Originally Posted by thataveragejoe View Post

Getting an injunction of any kind in the United States is pretty hard, and winning a preliminary one is much harder than that.

This case may move forward, but I doubt an injunction is coming anytime soon.

I agree.

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Originally Posted by Shidell View Post

The comical part of this forum is that if the reverse was in gear, and Google (or any of Android's manufacturers) were suing Apple, you would all cry foul.

In fact, when those manufacturers do press litigation back at Apple, you all cry foul.

You all? I'm sorry but this is an internet forum not the Borg. If Google came up with software or bit of technology that was patented with no prior art and Apple infringed upon it, I'd say sue away. Why? Because using someone else's work without permission is wrong (imo) and I'm also confident that Apple would either make it's own workaround or come up with something even better and make the old implementation seem clunky (btw THAT'S how innovation comes about and NOT sitting on your hands letting your competitors infringe on your work).
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

Apple needs to innovate not litigate.
Apple is afraid of any real competition.
Apple can't compete on a level playing field.
Apple must be scared that Android is winning.


Did I miss any of the typical lame talking points?

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Originally Posted by jragosta View Post

Yep.

Apple will be out of the cell phone business by the end of the year, so it's a moot point, anyway.
Apple copied everything from Android, so how dare they sue?
Patents shouldn't be allowed. They interfere with competition.

Nice check list; excellent preemptive arguments, too. Apple is not at fault for doing everything necessary to preserve its profit margins. The latter would not be possible if Apple would easily allow other manufacturers, whether legally or illegally, compete with Apple for customers, either by copying Apple's products, or by making their own original products, that fulfill equally well, worse, or better, the same needs for the potential customers. Apple's behavior is economically justified, supported by the law, logical, and quite likely smarter than anyone else's.

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Oh, and in every single thread about this stuff, these two images remain relevant.

<meaningless collages removed>

You see how different and interesting phones and tablets were before the iPhone and iPad, respectively?

THEY WERE ALL INNOVATING BACK THEN. ALL OF THEM. As much as all of those devices sucked, that was the golden age of innovation.

Now ONE company is. ONE. And people still whine that Apple should "focus on innovating instead of suing".

Are you implying that the superficial similarities between Apple's current products and those of Apple's competitors, along with the superficial differences among the previous products of Apple's competitors, have any deeper meaning than being superficial similarities, or superficial differences? Do you understand that correlation does not imply causation? If you do, why would you waste screen space with the same old meaningless collage?
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Also one tablet that really should be on this list, is the HP Slate, demostrated a week before iPad 1 release.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/the-hp-slate/

Do you not recall how everyone knew Apple was releasing a tablet, and how everyone was rushing to beat them to it? That looks exactly like a large iPhone, chrome trim and all, which is what many speculated the the unnamed Apple tablet would look like.
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Do you not recall how everyone knew Apple was releasing a tablet, and how everyone was rushing to beat them to it? That looks exactly like a large iPhone, chrome trim and all, which is what many speculated the the unnamed Apple tablet would look like.

Yeah but their are definately design elements from earlier Windows slates, that suggest this HP slate could have evoved from them, irrespective whether the iPhone and iPad came out

I use to follow all the Sony Pulse magazines, watching all the designs for stereos, televisions, laptops etc change over the years. I can see just as much influence from some of Sony products in the HP slate, as I can to the unreleased iPad (at that point in time)
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Do you understand that correlation does not imply causation? If you do, why would you waste screen space with the same old meaningless collage?

That phrase really seems out of place, and the fact that you used such a phrase in conjunction with your monicker "Dr" implies that you're trying to look smart.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

Using $5 words doesn't work unless you also possess the ability to present them in the appropriate sentence structure.

Actually, $5 words are now only worth $3 due to the recent economic downturn and the ubiquitous availability of Wikipedia and Google.

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Yeah but their are definately design elements from earlier Windows slates, that suggest this HP slate could have evoved from them, irrespective whether the iPhone and iPad came out

Not really, other than being a rectangle. I see no collage of physical buttons nor a stylus.

Also, many tablets you showed were released after 2007, when the iPhone was released. Given the similarities in style and design between the iPhone and iPad (and modern tablet offerings), you can't really say that the Slate was not influenced by Apple's choice of industrial design.
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Originally Posted by Shidell View Post

You just validated my point. You are so emotionally attached to Apple that you feel they're always right, and everyone else is always wrong.

Litigation like this is nonsense.

Slide to unlock has been around forever.

Patenting a method of transferring bits in order to relay data? Yes, that is absolutely every digital device in existence.

Everyone knows these types of patents (and patent cases) are bogus.

I owned many a device before the iPhone, and none utilized the slide-to-unlock method of unlocking the device.

I'm sorry, I thought the tired argument is that slide-to-unlock is too obvious. Too obvious that no one else used it on a phone/PDA.
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Originally Posted by Shidell View Post

To change direction, I would personally like to see a paradigm change in the industry, where when someone purchases a phone, they are free to install whatever OS on it they choose, just like one can elect to do with a computer. You shouldn't be locked in to iOS, WP7, Android, or anything else.

The olden days of energy-sucking devices, over built to accommodate bloated software is over.

Apple builds their hardware and app & OS software to work together perfectly; maximizing battery-life, responsiveness, and user experience. Why would anyone one want to put a Corvette engine in a Mack truck or a diesel engine in a Corvette?

Even Samsung, who sell phones with a different OS in them, makes a different phone for the OS.
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As our great moderator states, Troll comments summed up in a few short wafts of halitosis infused effluence, AKA Troll Post.... I read often but post in a most circumscribed manner, and while it is interesting to read the real threads, I find it most amusing that there are some in attendance for such puerile banality, that it leads one to believe they are in a most dire and severe need of coitus!

OH, and maybe re-locate from living in their mommy's basement!

Where is Samuel L. Jackson to tell you to speak ENGLISH?

Do you have a thesaurus sewn to your arm?
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Originally Posted by Pendergast View Post

Not really, other than being a rectangle. I see no collage of physical buttons nor a stylus.

Also, many tablets you showed were released after 2007, when the iPhone was released. Given the similarities in style and design between the iPhone and iPad (and modern tablet offerings), you can't really say that the Slate was not influenced by Apple's choice of industrial design.

It's funny how defensive Apple fans (or possibly shareholders) are of the almighty Apple. I love a range of different devices across the years, from a vareity of manufactuers, but I understand the process of design, nothing is created in a perfectly insulated vacuum chamber - including the iPhone and iPad.
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