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post #41 of 73
This is really nice feature and I was looking forward for it.

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Really hope the next gen Apple TV adds 1080p (back again), and that AirPlay supports it.

Scaling a screen back to 720p will make smaller fonts and fine detail difficult to see.

Phil

I remember when Apple released AppleTV 2 there was some talk about the hardware being capable of 1080p output.
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I remember when Apple released AppleTV 2 there was some talk about the hardware being capable of 1080p output.

It absolutely is, Apple just restricts it because iTunes doesn't have 1080p movies.

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post #43 of 73
"all transmitted without the need for any cables or adapters."

However you do need an Apple TV which might as well be an adaptor.
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"all transmitted without the need for any cables or adapters."

However you do need an Apple TV which might as well be an adaptor.

Not if the TV is an actual AppleTV... oh snap!
post #45 of 73
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I doubt it. Before it was simply a case of not including the functionality for AirPlay at all, and that was that.

But now that the entire OS does it, they don't have any say in the matter whatsoever. Screw 'em.

Also, does anyone else think that the Notification Center's entrance in the desktop space will kill off Growl?

I'm pretty sure that in iOS 5, despite AirPlay Mirroring being an OS-wide feature, Apps can be written to choose what content is mirrored. This is how certain games can "mirror" the actual game, while turning the iOS device into a "controller" or "hud".

However, it also allows apps like Hulu+ to disable the mirroring of video even when using the OS-wide AirPlay Mirroring. I've tried can't get it to work.
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However you do need an Apple TV which might as well be an adaptor.

How is a wireless streaming solution in any way a 'cable' or 'adapter'? That's like complaining your satellite company's DVR is in the way of getting content to your TV.

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post #47 of 73
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Since Siri isn't voice recognition (it merely uses it as an interface), couldn't Apple go all out against Google and allow text input for Siri on your computer?

You'd type the same way you'd speak: "Where's the nearest coffee shop?" etc.

Why even do a Google search? It could be integrated system wide.

That's brilliant!
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What's confusing? It would be Siri, but allow both voice and text input. The latter if you don't want to be seen talking to your computer.

Me, I'd start practicing my best Scottish accent. "Computer..."

I just don't need it happening in the next 10 years.
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post #49 of 73
time to go buy those 2 extra Apple TV's i've been meaning to pick up. This is the final step that will help me finally migrate all my TV's to ATV from WD TV live.
post #50 of 73
About 3 months ago I bought a movie on iTunes on my Mac Mini it played on my monitor perfectly - so I connected my Samsung 46" TV via a hdmi cable into my living room. Imagine my complete surprise and disgust, up pops a dialog box informing me that I am not allowed to play the movie on my HDTV device because I'm not licensed!. I mean WTF.

Will airplay get me around this problem? Because of this I am not buying movies on Itunes anymore, So I just watch Netflix on the TV using iPad. I got rid of CoNCast cable TV.

Looks like the RIAA/movie industry just cut of its nose to spite Apple. They lost several of my sales because of their stoooopid licensing restrictions. this whole situation is so backward really WTF do these idiots think they are achieving? I will be junking my "Samshit" TV and buying the Apple TV when it comes out , esp if it has airplay built in.

In some kind of perverse way the movie/RIAA is playing right into Apple's hands with their stoopid tactics, all it is achieving is making their own cutomers more frustrated and angry , along comes apple and offers what we want.

Okay so be it, you're wish is my command.

I'm even more convinced than ever that AppleTV is going to suceed, lets get the word out and educate people about the new way to have entertainment without frustration of awful/bloated brain dead interfaces, licensing restrictions and all the other controls these idiots and their agents have on us.


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post #51 of 73
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time to go buy those 2 extra Apple TV's i've been meaning to pick up. This is the final step that will help me finally migrate all my TV's to ATV from WD TV live.

No, not now! Wait for the 1080p version!

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post #52 of 73
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However, it also allows apps like Hulu+ to disable the mirroring of video even when using the OS-wide AirPlay Mirroring. I've tried can't get it to work.

The Sky Go app does this too, and even does the same when using the hdmi adapter, displaying the video content on the iPad screen and a "this app does not allow hdmi output" message on the tv. It is most annoying when I'm trying to watch the football (soccer?) and have to fire up my laptop just to get it onto my tv as the sky go Silverlight web app obviously can't differentiate between a tv or monitor connection and so allows me to send the video full screen to my tv via hdmi.
post #53 of 73
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No, not now! Wait for the 1080p version!

agreed - good reader etc on iPad for design reviews to a big TV is really powerful, but its just let down by inability to see the smaller fonts
post #54 of 73
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I remember when Apple released AppleTV 2 there was some talk about the hardware being capable of 1080p output.

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It absolutely is, Apple just restricts it because iTunes doesn't have 1080p movies.

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time to go buy those 2 extra Apple TV's i've been meaning to pick up. This is the final step that will help me finally migrate all my TV's to ATV from WD TV live.

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No, not now! Wait for the 1080p version!

Hmmm... Am I the only one who's scratching their head?
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post #55 of 73
I just want to AirPlay on my Mac. I am that unusual? I want to play stuff from my phone and iPad on my iMac screen and also on my MacMini which I have connected to the TV. AirPlay on the iMac is exactly what I want - NOT AirPlay from the iMac argghhhhhhhhhh
post #56 of 73
just wanted to note, those of us who struggled to connect the new Mac Mini back in the day (2005) to our still new HDTV's have to smile: now every Mac will be an HTPC out of the box (well ok, you need an Apple TV too ...)
post #57 of 73
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It absolutely is, Apple just restricts it because iTunes doesn't have 1080p movies.

Now that the iPhone 4s shoots 1080p video, it's time to remove the restriction.
post #58 of 73
Projector manufacturers should wise up and put AirPlay in their units.

Of course, I suppose I could hook an AppleTV via HDMI....

But that's the point of AirPlay.

In my best mommy dearest voice, "No more wires.!!!"

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post #59 of 73
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Hmmm... Am I the only one who's scratching their head?

I'll clarify.

The current (2nd gen) Apple TV has the ability to output 1080p video. Right now, it does not do this.

It can read 1080p video files (from iTunes and the like) just fine. It reads them in, converts them on the fly to 720p, and displays them as 720p.

This is abject nonsense.

It's done, I assume, because iTunes doesn't sell 1080p content. Apple doesn't want people seeing stuff that looks better than the stuff they can buy in iTunes.

The next Apple TV (box, not a monitor, for heaven's sake) should have an A6 chip in it, meaning zero excuse for not outputting 1080p.

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Now that the iPhone 4s shoots 1080p video, it's time to remove the restriction.

Indeed, though that certainly shouldn't have been the catalyst.

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post #60 of 73
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I'm pretty sure that in iOS 5, despite AirPlay Mirroring being an OS-wide feature, Apps can be written to choose what content is mirrored. This is how certain games can "mirror" the actual game, while turning the iOS device into a "controller" or "hud".

However, it also allows apps like Hulu+ to disable the mirroring of video even when using the OS-wide AirPlay Mirroring. I've tried can't get it to work.

According the the article on the Verge (who got one of the early evaluation copies, so it's not just speculation):

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Youre able to play iTunes movies and TV shows, but licensing restrictions unfortunately means the local display gets blacked out. (This is particularly stupid, but it's only fair to blame the studios for such foolishness, not Apple.)

I'm assuming "local display" means my laptop or monitor? And that covers iTunes, but they didn't say anything about Hulu. Surely someone out of the many media outlets and bloggers that have had their hands on Mountain Lion have checked this? It's seems like the first thing that would occur to you upon hearing that the Mac has Airplay.

I'm going to guess that the answer is "no", and that apps can still block Airplay ala iOS.
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post #61 of 73
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AAPL has been far more volatile.

Only in pure percentages. Forget what the correct term is, but if you look at the ratio of change of (APPL/S&P) relative to the market for the day and for a 5-30 day period it isn't as big of a surprise. Boy, that barely makes sense, but something like (AAPL%ch,1day/S&P%ch,1day)/(AAPL%ch,5day/S&P%ch,5day)

Or, a "buying opportunity."
post #62 of 73
is it just me or the "This is big" caption might imply something?

it would be very apple-ish (and really hilarious): hidding it in plain sight.

post #63 of 73
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The next Apple TV (box, not a monitor, for heaven's sake) should have an A6 chip in it, meaning zero excuse for not outputting 1080p.

Shouldn't need a faster chip; the $99 Roku box does 1080p just fine.

Once the 1080p is available, each conference room tv in our office will be getting one. I'll finally be able to do dual-monitor presentations the way I want to-- or at least closer and without needing to pull fiber from the conference table to the TV wall. Should help sell us a few more Macs as well...

Now just need iMessage to work with the apple tv and a webcam.
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is it just me or the "This is big" caption might imply something?

it would be very apple-ish (and really hilarious): hidding it in plain sight.

It's the same generic TV box they use for all their stuff. There is absolutely nothing to see here. Tim Cook said they're not making a TV, and the idea was ludicrous on the face of it.

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post #65 of 73
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is it just me or the "This is big" caption might imply something?

it would be very apple-ish (and really hilarious): hidding it in plain sight.


I'll believe when I see it. I have done all I can and so far I still can't see it.
post #66 of 73
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How is a wireless streaming solution in any way a 'cable' or 'adapter'? That's like complaining your satellite company's DVR is in the way of getting content to your TV.

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a·dapt·er/əˈdaptər/
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A device for connecting pieces of equipment that cannot be connected directly.

The ATV is the device that does the wireless connection, otherwise, you're going to have to run a cable, and you won't have a wireless connection.
post #67 of 73
when you watch the video properly for AirPlay Mirroring, it doesn't shows any lag of few seconds when transferring video from macbook to HDTV whereas right now if you airplay from iPad or iPhone there is clearly a lag of 2-3 seconds… have they fixed it or this is the sign of new apple tv?

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post #68 of 73
It's kind of crap streaming your computer to the TV. It always looks blurry compared to a real computer monitor. It might be ok for playing games on the big screen, if you only have a laptop, I guess.
post #69 of 73
On this topic, it makes perfect sense and is open to a larger market to make a set-top box. However, if they feel that consumers won't pay a lot for another box, and therefore sales are limited, perhaps they think a full TV system offers a better experience and enough will buy in.

In one example, if they plan to include iOS features like FaceTime and have a camera at the top, it would look much better integrated than placing a wired or wireless camera unit on top of the television.

Who knows, we have to wait and see what Apple has cooked up!

On a side note, earlier someone said that they should announce Siri for the Mac. I think that would be really cool, but they license speech recognition from Nuance, which has a software package for Mac, albeit expensive. Nuance is a hard negotiator and while I don't know how well their product sells....I don't think they want to obsolete it.
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On a side note, earlier someone said that they should announce Siri for the Mac. I think that would be really cool, but they license speech recognition from Nuance, which has a software package for Mac, albeit expensive. Nuance is a hard negotiator and while I don't know how well their product sells....I don't think they want to obsolete it.

Simple, Apple buys Nuance like they should have a year ago. Incorporates their stuff directly into Apple products.

Heck, we have Nuance voices built into Lion and Mountain Lion already.

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Hopefully the airplay of the apple TV will be updated as to not restrict it to the 5 device limitation. I'd love for the ability to walk into an auditorium (I give a lot of presentations) and have it just work without having to worry about Apple ID authentication.

I think that's where Apple has missed a big bag of easy cash with Apple TV for a long time. At my office, we have the problem of interfacing with overhead projectors all the time. either buy expensive wireless dongles (and expect the office staff to keep track of them) or drop cables from the ceiling... An Apple TV with Airplay tucked in the ceiling with your projector is the perfect solution to the problem.... just bundle basic screen sharing (similar to WebEx) into iTunes for windows users, or even make it an iOS app for the Apple TV (App store?) In that respect a 5 device limit is silly because the Apple TV stores minimal media in it's puny 4GB flash. Apple could almost pull off what Microsoft has been trying to make EASY for the last 10 years. (yes, I realize Xbox 1 could do remote media.. but it's still not EASY... hand this to an MBA to show their PowerPoint == easy)
post #72 of 73
While you guys all argue over semantics, I have a practical question. How would Airplay work for my iMac in as much as my Bluetooth keyboard and mouse have very limited range? I mean, what good is it to send my iMac display to my HDTV in the next room if I can't control anything from there? Not a problem if you are using a MacBook but if you're streaming from an iMac it would be. UNLESS, the Bluetooth devices can connect or be relayed via the ATV.

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While you guys all argue over semantics, I have a practical question. How would Airplay work for my iMac in as much as my Bluetooth keyboard and mouse have very limited range? I mean, what good is it to send my iMac display to my HDTV in the next room if I can't control anything from there? Not a problem if you are using a MacBook but if you're streaming from an iMac it would be. UNLESS, the Bluetooth devices can connect or be relayed via the ATV.

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