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Originally Posted by Blastdoor View Post

I see two potential explanations for this:

1. Simplification
2. They intend to run OSX on machines not called "mac" (for example, as a VM on a server)

The first explanation seems most likely

It is the second one, however.

As of 10.7, it is expressly allowed to install OS X (client version) on a VM. It is therefore possible (and permitted) to run OS X on non-Mac hardware.

The last time such a thing happened was with System 7.5, and Apple changed "About this Mac" to "About this computer". It wasn't changed back to "About this Mac" until Mac OS X was introduced.

Apple have always been very meticulous about branding. Running OS X doesn't turn just any ol' hardware into a Mac, thus this name change.

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post #43 of 94
OS

or just

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post #44 of 94
or would it be OS XI version 1

is not that far off - unless they go with OS X version 10.10 and 10.11 etc
post #45 of 94
So basically the mac is dead, and iOS is now the focus of the company. Not surprising, considering all the feature movement focus from iOS to the mac.

I wish however apple would not forget that the interface on the desktop is not the same as a touch based interface. Until the mac ships with a touch screen, it's still a traditional computer.
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An interesting concept...
  1. Create iPads in 11" and 13" sizes along with the stanard 10"
  2. Make keyboard, mouse, track-pad and pen input first class citizens next to touch
  3. Add an "OSX" app to the springboard that launches like any other iOS app
  4. Allow the iPad to dock with a MacBook Air like base. That way most of the time it works like an iPad, until you dock it and launch "OSX" app at which time it works like a MacBook Air.
  5. Add a few more "multitasking" enhancements to iOS like side-by-side apps, a better app switcher and a way for apps to opt-in to share information with each other.

That's Windows 8. From the OSX Mountain Lion announcements it sounds like Apple don't want to do that.

That sounds awesome.
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Originally Posted by stelligent View Post

Clearly, they are releasing a TV running OS X and are morphing the name now.

That would be great!
post #48 of 94
The interesting thing about this is, what happens after apple reaches 10.9? "X" was supposed to mean "10". If you call the operating system "OS X", then it no longer means 10, the X is part of the name. Otherwise you kill your marketing by having to rename the OS again.

This seems like an intent to keep on going with OS X regardless. Like OS X version 12.3.

Firefox version updates anyone?
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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

That's only if they drop the name "Mac" from iMac, MacBook, Mac Mini, Mac Pro => i, Book, Mini, Pro.

I http://findicons.com/files/icons/100.../128/apple.png

i; Book; Mini; Pro; etc.

Is there an easier way to put an Apple icon into AI without going to Flickr, or ...



Edit: Andyapple had a similar idea,OS

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An interesting concept...

That's Windows 8. From the OSX Mountain Lion announcements it sounds like Apple don't want to do that.

Heh. That's not what I mean, either.

If I get the inclination, I'll mock it up sometime.

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or would it be OS XI version 1

is not that far off - unless they go with OS X version 10.10 and 10.11 etc

Please try not to spread more stupid on the internet than absolutely necessary.
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So basically the mac is dead, and iOS is now the focus of the company. Not surprising, considering all the feature movement focus from iOS to the mac.

I wish however apple would not forget that the interface on the desktop is not the same as a touch based interface. Until the mac ships with a touch screen, it's still a traditional computer.

You didn't actually read any of the articles that were written about this since it was announced, did you?

You know, the whole reason iOS exists at all, and Apple didn't (like so many others) go with a miniaturised version of OS X on the iPhone, is that they understand (and always have: see the Apple Newton) that what works on the desktop isn't necessarily what works on a hand-held, and vice versa.

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post #52 of 94
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Originally Posted by enjourni View Post

So basically the mac is dead, and iOS is now the focus of the company. Not surprising, considering all the feature movement focus from iOS to the mac.

I wish however apple would not forget that the interface on the desktop is not the same as a touch based interface. Until the mac ships with a touch screen, it's still a traditional computer.

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So basically the mac is dead, and iOS is now the focus of the company. Not surprising, considering all the feature movement focus from iOS to the mac.

I wish however apple would not forget that the interface on the desktop is not the same as a touch based interface. Until the mac ships with a touch screen, it's still a traditional computer.

iOS has been the focus for awhile and I don't think they have made that a secret. They're still selling more computers than they ever have in their history. So they removed Mac from Mac OS X. Do we really have to wonder if an Apple Mac is running Mac OS X? Does anyone actually say it twice like that? No, we say our Mac is running OS X or 10.7 or Lion or OS X 10.7 Lion.

How is adding back in software that they tweaked in iOS to OS X changing the interface to become like a touch device? You can revert the mouse scroll change Lion added. It isn't like there are now areas of OS X that you can't access unless you are using a touch screen. Nothing is stopping you from using it as a traditional computer. Heck, you can even spend all day w/the command line fullscreened if you like
post #54 of 94
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Originally Posted by Blastdoor View Post

1. Simplification
2. They intend to run OSX on machines not called "mac" (for example, as a VM on a server)

The first explanation seems most likely

Yeah, it's 1. They are just tidying things up. But I can't believe the reactions from some though - it's not as if Apple have announced that you'll have to hand over your first born son for the next iPhone or anything.
post #55 of 94
And who cares?

While Apple takes care of this another version of OS X, other applications are abandoned.

The latest version of iLife was in October 2010. iWork does even better with January 2009! Needless to say the nice iWork is at risk.

And what about the still un-fixed bugs and the new just added ones...

Apple, take care: quality is key.
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While Apple takes care of this another version of OS X, other applications are abandoned.

Hardly.

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Needless to say the nice iWork is at risk.

Of what?

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And what about the still un-fixed bugs and the new just added ones...

Such as?

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Needless to say the nice iWork is at risk.

At risk? iWork is central to Apple's iCloud strategy and the premiere showcase of Apple's vision of an app-centric future.

.tsooJ
post #58 of 94
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Originally Posted by rei_vilo View Post

And who cares?

While Apple takes care of this another version of OS X, other applications are abandoned.

The latest version of iLife was in October 2010. iWork does even better with January 2009! Needless to say the nice iWork is at risk.

And what about the still un-fixed bugs and the new just added ones...

Apple, take care: quality is key.

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Hardly.



Of what?



Such as?

I don't think it's completely false to observe that Apple does seem to neglect some of its lesser lights. FaceTime, iAd, Ping, even iTunes ... all overdue for some form of product progression. But I don't think this has anything to do with OS X development.
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Originally Posted by mstone View Post

They pretty much screwed themselves when they named it OS X with code names of large cats in the first place. Now that they have painted themselves into a corner with the naming conventions, they are squirming around trying to find a way to spin it.

They will likely just add an "S" to end of the name and hope no one notices.

I highly doubt anyone is "squirming" at Apple. lmao.
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At the risk of being jumped on I wonder if OSX will someday be available to everyone even if they don't by Apple hardware. I remember reading several years ago that SJ was really the only one that didn't want to market OSX to anyone that didn't buy Apple hardware.

On many levels I don't see this happening but it would be interesting to see OSX for any system.

I don't see it. Apple's Mac business is thriving. It's the most profitable PC business in the world and by a large margin. If they were going to sell their OS to anyone they would have done this back before 1997 when they were struggling. Now it simply would do nothing but hurt them.

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At the risk of being jumped on I wonder if OSX will someday be available to everyone even if they don't by Apple hardware. I remember reading several years ago that SJ was really the only one that didn't want to market OSX to anyone that didn't buy Apple hardware.

On many levels I don't see this happening but it would be interesting to see OSX for any system.

Not happening. Their current business model is working just fine.
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They pretty much screwed themselves when they named it OS X with code names of large cats in the first place. Now that they have painted themselves into a corner with the naming conventions, they are squirming around trying to find a way to spin it.

They will likely just add an "S" to end of the name and hope no one notices.

Why could you not name the new OS's OSX 2013? Not as cool as cat names, but gets the job done.
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Why could you not name the new OS's OSX 2013? Not as cool as cat names, but gets the job done.

there are at least 36 species of wild cats - http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/agarman/bco/species.htm
of course some of the names sound "cooler" than others.

OS X 2013 sounds too much like MS products - although you could have OS X 2013.1 and OS X 2013.2 etc. could get even more like MS if the product name has a year it is for marketing - but then some number (windows 7, windows 8) in it when you load it - but then some other number - Word 14 for example on the actual folder where it is running.

switching to some other code name scheme might not be that hard - in fact if they do change from OS X to OS 11 or OS XI that would be a good time to find some other category of code names.

I like OS and Mini etc.

maybe they could use species of chameleons for the code names of a single OS that runs on all their products - there are 135 of those names - not sure how many have catchy common names though
post #64 of 94
There're a few more name changes, too. Address Book is now "Contacts" and iCal is now "Calendar".

And the Notes application seems to have the "Here's to the crazy ones" speech on it. A horribly mangled version, at least.

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Hmm. I wonder when my .mac email address will be a relic of history.

'What's your email address?'

'xxxxx@mac.com'

'What's mac?

Maybe Apple should their mail to fred@osx.com ...
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P.S. If someone will PS an OS X Puffin image like the lion one below I will totally mail you two dollars.


You can't do that yourself?
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post #67 of 94
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It has been a relic already for a couple of years.

Replaced when MobileMe came out.

Actually no .Mac hasn't been replaced. Just last week I asked Apple why my xxx@me AppleID keeps reverting to an xxx@mac Apple ID for my MAS purchases. It's been doing this all along. I didn't want to have multiple IDs so I kept trying to force the MAS to use xxx@me to no avail. Apple says although they appear as two different AppleIDs they are one of the same. So as alias to .me, .mac is also an alias to .me AppleID.
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Actually no .Mac hasn't been replaced. Just last week I asked Apple why my xxx@me AppleID keeps reverting to an xxx@mac Apple ID for my MAS purchases. It's been doing this all along. I didn't want to have multiple IDs so I kept trying to force the MAS to use xxx@me to no avail. Apple says although they appear as two different AppleIDs they are one of the same. So as alias to .me, .mac is also an alias to .me AppleID.

That's the domain for emails, and it's not available to new users anymore so I think it's accurate to say that @mac.com was replaced by @me.com and that .Mac was replaced by MobileMe was replaced by iCloud. Really they are all just building (or rebuilding) off each other from iTools

I'd even argue the reason for all these name changes is that Apple got it wrong every other time hence the rebranding. iCloud seems to be progressing nicely.

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You may be reading too much into this. What about this name change, or todays Mountain Lion announcements, removes anything Mac-like about using using OS X? ... <snip>

Well I notice that the cursor in Lion 10.7.3 is less precise. I keep having to consciencely aim a bit lower or I highlight the line above. I believe this is because of new touch commands. Also the dictionary in Lion is dumb. For instance, Lion believes the word consciencely (above) is misspelled and only offers conscienceless. That never happen to me before 10.7.3 and there are quite a few words I often misspell that the dictionary won't solve but it did before. Things on the Mac desktop ARE getting dumbed down.
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Well I notice that the cursor in Lion 10.7.3 is less precise. I keep having to consciencely aim a bit lower or I highlight the line above. I believe this is because of new touch commands. Also the dictionary in Lion is dumb. For instance, Lion believes the word consciencely (above) is misspelled and only offers conscienceless. That never happen to me before 10.7.3 and there are quite a few words I often misspell that the dictionary won't solve but it did before. Things on the Mac desktop ARE getting dumbed down.

Can you use consciencely in a sentence?
conscience |ˈkɑnʃəns|
noun
• an inner feeling or voice viewed as acting as a guide to the rightness or wrongness of one's behavior.

DERIVATIVES
conscienceless adjective I think you might be thinking of....
conscious |ˈkɑnʃəs|
adjective
• aware of and responding to one's surroundings; awake.

DERIVATIVES
consciously adverb or...
conscientious |kɑːnʃiˈenʃəs|
adjective
1 (of a person) wishing to do what is right, esp. to do one's work or duty well and thoroughly: a conscientious and hardworking clerk.
2 relating to a person's conscience: the act does not provide exemption from service on the basis of personal conscientious beliefs.

DERIVATIVES
conscientiously adverb,
conscientiousness noun

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Can you use consciencely in a sentence?
conscience |ˈkɑnʃəns|
noun
an inner feeling or voice viewed as acting as a guide to the rightness or wrongness of one's behavior.

DERIVATIVES
conscienceless adjective I think you might be thinking of....
conscious |ˈkɑnʃəs|
adjective
aware of and responding to one's surroundings; awake.

DERIVATIVES
consciously adverb or...
conscientious |kɑːnʃiˈenʃəs|
adjective
1 (of a person) wishing to do what is right, esp. to do one's work or duty well and thoroughly: a conscientious and hardworking clerk.
2 relating to a person's conscience: the act does not provide exemption from service on the basis of personal conscientious beliefs.

DERIVATIVES
conscientiously adverb,
conscientiousness noun

Yeah you're right I'm wrong on that word... but I just rushed that as I was posting just before. I have noticed my dictionary IS dumber guessing at word many times since I upgraded to 10.7.3.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

That's the domain for emails, and it's not available to new users anymore so I think it's accurate to say that @mac.com was replaced by @me.com and that .Mac was replaced by MobileMe was replaced by iCloud. Really they are all just building (or rebuilding) off each other from iTools

I'd even argue the reason for all these name changes is that Apple got it wrong every other time hence the rebranding. iCloud seems to be progressing nicely.

The change from .Mac to MobileMe happened because the service was opened up to iPhone users using Windows as their desktop OS, and no longer exclusive to Mac users.

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Originally Posted by ljocampo View Post

Yeah you're right I'm wrong on that word... but I just rushed that as I was posting just before. I have noticed my dictionary IS dumber guessing at word many times since I upgraded to 10.7.3.

There seem to be two ways people are calling new versions of OS X "dumb". One is saying the system itself is more dumb and the other is that it's made for dumb people. I see no evidence of either being true. In fact I can point how this is axiomatically false.


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The change from .Mac to MobileMe happened because the service was opened up to iPhone users using Windows as their desktop OS, and no longer exclusive to Mac users.

Correlation is not causation. In marketing you drop a brand name that works. .Mac was already accessible from Windows via the browser and they could have easily made .Mac for Windows to integrate with Windows apps. The simplest answer is that .Mac was a market failure. You can take iTunes as an example of a name that has not changed despite the app long dropping its sole support for "tunes".

The iTunes Music Store and Apple Computer did change their name but they dropped the unimportant parts that pull focus away from the valuable brands iTunes and Apple.

I took a 4 hour seminar on marketing at my local rec center so I know what I'm talking about¡

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That's the domain for emails, and it's not available to new users anymore so I think it's accurate to say that @mac.com was replaced by @me.com and that .Mac was replaced by MobileMe was replaced by iCloud. Really they are all just building (or rebuilding) off each other from iTools

I'd even argue the reason for all these name changes is that Apple got it wrong every other time hence the rebranding. iCloud seems to be progressing nicely.

I'd agree with you on the history but I haven't used the xxx@mac.com as an email address in years or ever as an AppleID. Long before there was an Mac App Store. Out of the clear blue sky it (the sys or server) decides to put it in the AppleID login field, even as I change it back to xxx@me.com. But you're right. Apple is trying to get a handle on these names and IDs for quite sometime now. Apple servers are really very buggy. Maybe because they use Microsoft Server in the backbone

They won't let me merge IDs. I have xxx , xxx@me.com , and now apparently xxx@mac.com all with the same personal info.
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Originally Posted by tallest skil View Post

right, instead of my usual mockery of the fake implications of something like this, i'm going to pose a hypothetical.

Yeah, they're removing mac from the name. Because the os doesn't just apply to macs anymore.

They're not bringing ios to the mac, they're bringing the mac to ios devices. They're going the opposite way in terms of functionality.

How's that?

love it!
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Originally Posted by ljocampo View Post

I'd agree with you on the history but I haven't used the xxx@mac.com as an email address in years or ever as an AppleID. Long before there was an Mac App Store. Out of the clear blue sky it (the sys or server) decides to put it in the AppleID login field, even as I change it back to xxx@me.com. But you're right. Apple is trying to get a handle on these names and IDs for quite sometime now. Apple servers are really very buggy. Maybe because they use Microsoft Server in the backbone

They won't let me merge IDs. I have xxx , xxx@me.com , and now apparently xxx@mac.com all with the same personal info.

For OCD reasons I would like to finally stop seeing @me.com plastered through all my iCloud logins. I don't care about showing that've been a long time Mac user I like that 'me' is 50% shorter than 'mac'. I assume one day they will make the switch. Perhaps after the transition from MobileMe is finished.

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<snip>

I took a 4 hour seminar on marketing at my local rec center so I know what I'm talking about¡

Oh I don't doubt you do know what you're talking about. It's just that all this transitioning since iOS is getting very strange for us old timers that go back before the Macintosh with Apple.

I don't believe Apple is dumbing down their systems to accommodate a different clientele. I do think making a cursor less accurate to accommodate the new Cocoa Touch APIs dumbing down Lion.
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I do think making a cursor less accurate to accommodate the new Cocoa Touch APIs dumbing down Lion.

1) I don't see how those are related.

2) I don't see any CocoaTouch APIs in OS X.

3) Apple has been using multitouch trackpad APIs for years.

4) Remember this is Beta 1 so the simplest answer is simply a bug.

5) I have already moved to ML as my primary OS and have not experienced this issue. Any suggestions for recreating it?

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For OCD reasons I would like to finally stop seeing @me.com plastered through all my iCloud logins. I don't care about showing that've been a long time Mac user I like that 'me' is 50% shorter than 'mac'. I assume one day they will make the switch. Perhaps after the transition to MobileMe is finished.

Ahem!

...to MobileMe... you made my day with that one.

btw: it's only 30% shorter. opps you meant from iCloud never mind
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

1) I don't see how those are related.

2) I don't see any CocoaTouch APIs in OS X.

3) Apple has been using multitouch trackpad APIs for years.

4) Remember this is Beta 1 so the simplest answer is simply a bug.

5) I have already moved to ML as my primary OS and have not experienced this issue. Any suggestions for recreating it?

They might not be calling it CocoaTouch but it's all Cocoa. Apple wants everything Cocoa. I am happy about that too because I won't develop in anything else. I'm Apple all the way and don't use any software that is multiplatform (Windows like) if I can help it. Made for Mac ummm \ iOS by true Apple gardeners is the way to go IMO.

As for the cursor being less accurate, it is all the time. Not a bug. Apple is going the way of Touch, even on the desktop OS and they purposely increased the bounding box to accommodate fingers but the overlap in the UI of the curser suffers now from it. I need to get use to hitting the point with the cursor because since 10.7.3 it's different. It's not a biggy just annoying for me because I use a mouse exclusively.
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