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High quality photos received through "special channels" by a Chinese publication allegedly show that the next generation iPad will sport a larger rear-facing camera than the current iPad 2, and will use a slightly redesigned case as compared to previous models.

The purported "iPad 3" photos clearly show () the the rear-facing camera is larger than the iPad 2's, and the Taiwanese publication Apple Daily that published the pictures on Saturday claims that the change was made to accommodate an 8 megapixel sensor.

This would be a significant jump in resolution for the tablet, though a much-welcomed upgrade from the harshly-reviewed 1MP camera found on the iPad 2.

Previously leaked photos of an alleged "iPad 3" prototype case showed that the size of the camera hole was similar to that of the iPad 2, but it was noted that there was a change in how the sensor would be mounted.

In comparison, the iPhone 3G, and iPhone 4 all have higher resolution imagers at 2MP, 3.2MP and 5MP, respectively. The newest iPhone 4S has on-phone cameras in the world, boasting redesigned optics and a backside illuminated 8MP sensor capable of shooting 1080p videos.

Along with the change in lens size, the case of the alleged next generation iPad looks to be more beveled than its predecessor. This slight change in design is consistent with previously-published images of the back case, and is supposedly meant to afford more space for a larger battery.


Purported 'iPad 3' case and comparison photos. | Source: Apple Daily


The new photos are added to the pile of rumors and speculation that has slowly grown over the past month as the one-year anniversary of the iPad 2's launch grows near.

The "iPad 3" is rumored to sport a Sharp manufactured Retina Display with a pixel density similar to that of the iPhone 4S, wireless 4G LTE connectivity and a proprietary A6 CPU.

Rumors claim that Apple will announce the anticipated next generation tablet on March 7, almost exactly one year since the iPad 2 was introduced in 2011.

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Does anyone think any of these common rumours from components to event date are not going to happen? If you don't think some aspect will happen what is your reasoning?

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Looks real to me, it's the kind of evolutionary change Apple does. I wonder if there will be a takedown request soon?

It's logical that it would get the 4S camera.

I hope it does have a larger battery. I think it's impossible to overestimate how much all-day battery is part of the iPad's success. If you had to plug it in every 2-4 hours people would have been put off.
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Looks real to me, it's the kind of evolutionary change Apple does. I wonder if there will be a takedown request soon?

It's logical that it would get the 4S camera.

I hope it does have a larger battery. I think it's impossible to overestimate how much all-day battery is part of the iPad's success. If you had to plug it in every 2-4 hours people would have been put off.

Bigger battery needed to feed the denser display and heftier specs. Should end up about the same as iPad 2 charge time.

I haven't heard much about the iPad getting Siri, but I sure hope so.
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The screen is rumored to be manufactured by LG and Samsung. Sharp is having trouble with yields.

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post #6 of 134
Funny, I still think the original iPad case was a classier design. The iPad2 felt a bit cheaper.

Either way, I'm, surprised they haven't included the metal volume buttons introduced on the iPhone 4.
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Funny, I still think the original iPad case was a classier design. The iPad2 felt a bit cheaper.

Either way, I'm, surprised they haven't included the metal volume buttons introduced on the iPhone 4.

Agreed, I much prefer my original iPad's feel to the iPad 2. Oh well... gonna get me an iPad 3 either way!
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The "iPad 3" is rumored to sport an iPhone 4S-like 2,048-by-1,536 pixel Retina Display possibly manufactured by Sharp, wireless 4G LTE connectivity and a proprietary A6 CPU.

I hadn't realized that the 4S had a 2048x1536 display. :-/


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It's logical that it would get the 4S camera.

Not sure if the device is thick enough for that. Personally I don't ever use the iPad rear camera, though I wouldn't want it removed - perhaps having a 4S in my pocket at the time and PhotoStream means it's pretty pointless now(?)
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Funny, I still think the original iPad case was a classier design. The iPad2 felt a bit cheaper.

Either way, I'm, surprised they haven't included the metal volume buttons introduced on the iPhone 4.

I like the newer designs better

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The screen is rumored to be manufactured by LG and Samsung. Sharp is having trouble with yields.

Unless I missed the announcement from Sharp licensing their IGZO technology, neither LG nor Samsung are in on this one.
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harshly-reviewed 1MP camera found on the iPad 2.

Great, so now we are going to have a pile of dumb reviews hailing iPad photography as "the next big thing" and "why didn't Apple do this before".
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Funny, I still think the original iPad case was a classier design. The iPad2 felt a bit cheaper.

Either way, I'm, surprised they haven't included the metal volume buttons introduced on the iPhone 4.

Agreed, I've always liked the first generation model's physical design best. But I suspect that changes in case design have been driven more by engineering considerations than aesthetics (e.g., making room for a larger battery.)
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I hadn't realized that the 4S had a 2048x1536 display. :-/


Not sure if the device is thick enough for that. Personally I don't ever use the iPad rear camera, though I wouldn't want it removed - perhaps having a 4S in my pocket at the time and PhotoStream means it's pretty pointless now(?)

I've seen folks using their iPad as a camera (I still have the 1st gen model) and it's usually an awkward looking affair, especially in public. For me my iPhone is usually my first choice for taking pictures while I envision using the iPad's camera primarily when I need to take a photo while using the iPad. In other words I see it as a convenience feature and not as a primary camera option.
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Huh? I can't understand why anyone would prefer the thicker & heavier iPad with the bulging backside over the lighter, svelte iPad 2. Can't wait to get my clammy little hands on the iPad 3 so I can fob off my iPad 3G.
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I'm definately getting one...probably not going to use the camera that much but at least I know I have a good one on my ipad
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I've seen folks using their iPad as a camera (I still have the 1st gen model) and it's usually an awkward looking affair, especially in public. For me my iPhone is usually my first choice for taking pictures while I envision using the iPad's camera primarily when I need to take a photo while using the iPad. In other words I see it as a convenience feature and not as a primary camera option.


Well time was when photographers had to lug around huge wooden boxes on tripods, so in comparison the heft of an iPad is not such a big deal (at least to me.) Plus, not everyone who is going to own an iPad will also be endowed with an iPhone, or even necessarily with a decent camera phone. I myself prefer to lug around an iPad 3G and a dumb little pay-go phone don't need to pay for two data plans (and am still grandfathered for unlimited with AT&T, though expect that to change with LTE.) With a headset, I can even Skype with the iPad, so don't really need the phone that much at all. Of course, I never leave home without a back pack/shoulder bag.
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There will be no tapered design. Tapering the case goes against what appear to be essential design and functional goals of "orientation agnosticism"-the experience shouldn't change when orientations are changed. Users would feel a thicker device in one hand and a thinner device in the other and that would get even worse as orientations changed repeatedly.

Due to differences in thickness across hands, a tapered design would make users prefer landscape over portrait (or vice versa) in order to feel the device is balanced. More than anything, it would reflect lazy thinking and poor design compromises.

Not to mention it would wreak havoc on application design and function. Imagine gaming on that thing. Won't happen on the iPad and it'll never happen on an iPhone. What works for my Macbook Air (tapered design) is very different than what would work for a hand-held device.
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There will be no tapered design.

The design is tapered now, so

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Users would feel a thicker device in one hand and a thinner device in the other and that would get even worse as orientations changed repeatedly.

No, it's not that kind of tapering. Look at the image.

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I hadn't realized that the 4S had a 2048x1536 display. :-/

That wording was a little awkward, and it looks like it was changed. But it seems clear they meant that it was an iPhone-like retina display. Inserting the pixel dimensions might have been a foiled attempt at making it seem more interesting.

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Agreed, I've always liked the first generation model's physical design best. But I suspect that changes in case design have been driven more by engineering considerations than aesthetics (e.g., making room for a larger battery.)

I think it's more a matter of practicality. A curved back means that it can't sit flat on a table.

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I've seen folks using their iPad as a camera (I still have the 1st gen model) and it's usually an awkward looking affair, especially in public. For me my iPhone is usually my first choice for taking pictures while I envision using the iPad's camera primarily when I need to take a photo while using the iPad. In other words I see it as a convenience feature and not as a primary camera option.

I haven't seen the iPad camera app, but while it would look ungainly to others, I can see having the large, high density preview as a bonus. Especially if the user has poor vision.
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Huh? I can't understand why anyone would prefer the thicker & heavier iPad with the bulging backside over the lighter, svelte iPad 2. Can't wait to get my clammy little hands on the iPad 3 so I can fob off my iPad 3G.

I don't prefer the weight, but I do prefer the flat edges of the original iPad.
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The screen is rumored to be manufactured by LG and Samsung. Sharp is having trouble with yields.

Under no circumstances was Apple ever interested in LG or Samsung high-resolution screens that would have required a second backlight. With a device like the iPad, battery life matters and weight is critical. If you have to hold in your hands a device for long stretches, it has to be light and every small amount of weight reduction translates into a better user experience.

Apple would, I believe, only bring out a high-resolution iPad when technology were available to offer such a product with no significant hit in terms of battery life and/or weight. Sharp's IGZO technology apparently does allow for higher resolution without compromises in weight and power consumption.

It is also unlikely that in the late stages of developing the next iPad Apple would have considered two different technologies requiring major differences in overall design. Either Sharp's IGZO panels were ready for mass production or they were not. If not then the iPad 3 would have been using a screen similar to the current model.

I remember when the rumour about Sharp's yield for IGZO hit and immediately it just seemed like a load of hooey.
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The design is tapered now, so



No, it's not that kind of tapering. Look at the image.

I took "tapered design" as a reference to the speculated MBA-style tapering of an iPhone 5 (thinner on the bottom and thicker on the top), not simply to a tapered edge around the device. But I see what you mean.
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I took "tapered design" as a reference to the speculated MBA-style tapering of an iPhone 5 (thinner on the bottom and thicker on the top), not simply to a tapered edge around the device. But I see what you mean.

Indeed, I agree that a 'thicker top, skinnier bottom' design is idiotic. And people actually thought the 5th or 6th gen iPhone would get such a design! It's crazy!

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No way will they go from a 1MP to an 8MP camera in 1 step, that's not Apple's style. They always give them self room to grow. If the new iPad has anything more than a 5MP camera I will consume my own bumcheeks

I also doubt quad core too.
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Agreed, I much prefer my original iPad's feel to the iPad 2.

No way José.
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The biggest draw for me is a retina display. I love my iPad 2, and don't feel like I need more speed, a better camera, or really any of the other big draws. I do, however do tons of reading on it.

Text on my iPad looks pretty good - until I look at my iPhone screen. Slap a retina display on it, keep the awesome battery life, and I'll probably upgrade.
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Has anyone heard about the possibility of storage space going up? Like a 128GB
model. Seems possible with solid state memory continually getting cheaper.
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They want to make the whole thing thinner, but the technology's not there yet, so they have to settle for a bit more tapering. I think the iPad 1 design may make a comeback when they are finally able to thin the whole thing out.
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Has anyone heard about the possibility of storage space going up? Like a 128GB
model. Seems possible with solid state memory continually getting cheaper.

I think that Apple would be well-served to do this:

64GB iPad 2: $399
32GB iPad 3: $499
64GB iPad 3: $599
128GB iPad 3: $699

But they won't.

16GB iPad 2: $399
16GB iPad 3: $499
32GB iPad 3: $599
64GB iPad 3: $699

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Has anyone heard about the possibility of storage space going up? Like a 128GB
model. Seems possible with solid state memory continually getting cheaper.

The more storage Apple gives us in our devices, the less incentive we have to pay for iCloud.

I would not expect Apple portable devices to have lots of internal storage any more.
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The more storage Apple gives us in our devices, the less incentive we have to pay for iCloud.

I would not expect Apple portable devices to have lots of internal storage any more.

Bull. iCloud cannot and will NEVER replace the ability to have tons of movies and TV shows on your devices. Capacities will continue to increase until the telecoms are shut down and companies whose job it is to actually improve our infrastructure are put in place.

Google was doing gigabit fiber to the home. Whatever became of that? I don't want Google doing it, I don't want Google owning the servers, I don't want Google involved. I want that fiber made and I want it laid. By other companies.

This needs done. There's no excuse for it not to be. When more than 30% of the country has even a QUARTER of a gigabit fiber to a home, I'll start agreeing with you, but by then portable Apple products will hold a terabyte.

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They want to make the whole thing thinner, but the technology's not there yet, so they have to settle for a bit more tapering. I think the iPad 1 design may make a comeback when they are finally able to thin the whole thing out.

The curve also allows for added rigidity and/or for a thinner backplate which could reduce weight and add more space in certain areas. Hopefully enough that the battery increases with the addition of the Retina Display. I'll take a few more ounces if it means as good or longer usage with that new display.

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Has anyone heard about the possibility of storage space going up? Like a 128GB
model. Seems possible with solid state memory continually getting cheaper.

Is it getting cheap enough that they can double it this year? Typically the doubling for the same price is because of a die shrinkage but there has been issues with that regarding speed and longevity. On top of that, if they are adding the Retina Display you have to consider of that component and marketing for doing both in the same year.

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I think that Apple would be well-served to do this:

64GB iPad 2: $399
32GB iPad 3: $499
64GB iPad 3: $599
128GB iPad 3: $699

But they won't.

16GB iPad 2: $399
16GB iPad 3: $499
32GB iPad 3: $599
64GB iPad 3: $699

At any rate, authorized resellers are beginning to clear the channel of iPad 2s by cutting prices. The Midwest market chain, Meijer, is advertising 16gb Wi-Fi models for $429, while the cart price for all models is cut by $50 at Micro Center, in-store sales only.

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The screen is rumored to be manufactured by LG and Samsung. Sharp is having trouble with yields.

That was just one rumour, from one source, out of hundreds of rumours.

It may nor may not be true just like all the rest.
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Is it getting cheaper that they can double it this year? Typically the doubling for the same price is because of a die shrinkage but there has been issues with that regarding speed and longevity. On top of that, if they are adding the Retina Display you have to consider of that component and marketing for doing both in the same year.

Yeah, hard to say. With Retina and 64GB + 128GB models that could be the premium iPad 3, then maybe iPad 2S with 16GB only. Or a full-on frontal assault with iPad 3 only at 16/32/64GB 3G/Wifi as per usual.

I'm sure it's a hot topic in Apple management right now!
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I'm not the target audience for an iPad, however I really, really hope this high res iPad display, if true, can be the harbinger of higher res MacBook displays. While volume wouldn't be a roadblock because Apple sells many more iPads than Macs, I can only see display size as an impeding factor.

Please Apple, usher in the ultra high res displays I so wish the entire PC market to adopt in notebooks.
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I don't prefer the weight, but I do prefer the flat edges of the original iPad.

I found that the flat edge cut into one's palm something fierce when doing thumb typing or even holding it in portrait mode. It took me a lot of training (and much soreness), to get my hands used to holding it for long periods of time that way.

The new design also cuts into my hands in portrait mode because of the sharp edge created by the rounded back but it's lighter so it's not as pronounced. Personally, I'd like a double rounded edge with no sharpness at all. Same profile front to back. I think that's the practical solution although it's not quite as attractive.

Since weight is always the biggest negative, it should probably be made out of plastic, but again, not as attractive. Ideally, from a practical viewpoint, it should be carbon fibre or something that can have a nice finish but be about 50% lighter while maintaining the same strength.

IMO a tablet shouldn't really be any heavier than a thick magazine, and should be just as easy to hold in the hands.
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The photo at the root of this article needs to be considered more. The perspective makes the camera and the taper (and volume switch, etc...) look MUCH bigger on the iPad three than the ones behind it.

If you scale the proposed iPad 3 down to the size/placement of the iPad 2, the difference seems negligible. Of course, when you're talking about optics at that size, the improvement in image quality could be vast.

But because the article is talking about size... it's not all that different.
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