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post #81 of 134
2/19/12 at 10:42am
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The more storage Apple gives us in our devices, the less incentive we have to pay for iCloud.

I would not expect Apple portable devices to have lots of internal storage any more.

That is a very good point....but then the opposite could be true as well. If we have more space then we could buy more music and movies. Then we would need more space in the cloud....

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post #82 of 134
2/19/12 at 10:46am
Things just aren't as much fun these days. It used to be like a Christmas tree that had a few presents under it for a few weeks that you figured were socks, shirts and who-knows what, then on Christmas morning you would discover a huge pile of mysterious packages that were dropped off by Santa Claus.

Now we want everything under the tree by August so that we can figure out what we are getting months in advance. There is always someone who is eager to sneak in the room at night, gingerly separate the tape from the wrapping paper, take a peek, then reseal the present.

Remember the "one more thing" aspect of the keynotes? And how about the keynotes when suspected improvements represented only 10% of the formal product unveilings. That was a whole lot more fun than what we have today. I can't help thinking that in our rush to chuck Santa Claus in the dumpster along with the tooth fairy, Superman and Doris Day, we are becoming spoiled and greedy.
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post #83 of 134
2/19/12 at 11:01am
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I haven't seen the iPad camera app, but while it would look ungainly to others, I can see having the large, high density preview as a bonus. Especially if the user has poor vision.

THIS.

Give me some sort of ability to use a tripod (some sort of stand, perhaps) and the huge screen becomes one heck of an advantage for certain situations. Wandering around outside? Not so much. Shooting inside with a sense of precision? Absolutely. It won't be something most will ever want or need, but those who do will love it.
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post #84 of 134
2/19/12 at 11:12am
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I've seen proof that dropping the price of a high priced product significantly will triple sales. Overall that means more profit with more people using the product....

Please share Apples price profit curves. And their manufacturing ability to do so. While it may be possible for Apple to lower the price AND increase profit; there are a whole lot of factors to make it work. Just dropping a price is only one of a dozen.
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post #85 of 134
2/19/12 at 11:22am
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No way will they go from a 1MP to an 8MP camera in 1 step, that's not Apple's style. They always give them self room to grow. If the new iPad has anything more than a 5MP camera I will consume my own bumcheeks

I also doubt quad core too.

I'm more certain about a 8MP or better (conventional digital cameras come with 12MP, and there is no way they'd put something inferior than the iPhone 4S version in it.)

The only downside to the iPhone/iPad camera is that it lacks a zoom lens. But this may be a non-issue because the camera in the iPhone/iPad is not meant to replace a dedicated camera for actual photography use. The iPhone and iPad lacks a tripod mount as well. The iPad and iPhone are meant to replace having several devices that you don't use all that often with the convience of a device that can do many of the things a desktop PC can do.

But you won't see an iPad replacing Mac/PC desktops (at least not for another 10 years) and even then, not until some substantial leap in solid state storage comes along. Existing NAND flash is too slow to capture large photos and and HD video. I actually kind of hope that the iPad has a SDXC card slot so that it could actually be more useful for photo/video, but It's not the deal breaker.

Camera manufacturers need to catch up and offer better features than the iPad and iPhone. Can you hear me Canon? Where's your GPS+WiFi cameras? Better yet, where's the non-gimmicky stereographic cameras?
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post #86 of 134
2/19/12 at 11:31am
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Originally Posted by Carthusia View Post

iPad 3 needs a killer forward-facing camera much more than it needs a better rear-facing one. A Retina display and a better forward-facing camera lens/sensor would be a real game changer. Right now, the Facetime camera is the real weak link.

Game changer?. As for me, these phone type cameras eg iphone 4s, while good for impromptu situations(the best camera is the one you have)... It still doesn't come close to some better point and shoots. Recently did a trip to Hawaii, had my 4s and Panasonic FZ35. I took pics of the same scene with both. While the 4s was ok.... The Panasonic pics were a magnitude better and obviously a better picture. That woke me from my delusion that these miniature phone cameras can replace something with a large area sensor and lense, at least for important shoots(vacations etc).

That said, the iPad cameras are pretty bad.
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post #87 of 134
2/19/12 at 11:36am
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Originally Posted by theguycalledtom View Post

Great, so now we are going to have a pile of dumb reviews hailing iPad photography as "the next big thing" and "why didn't Apple do this before".

I've never used the camera on my iPad 2.
If this and retina are the only big upgrades, I'll be able to skip this one and use my $$ for iPhone 5 this year instead.
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post #88 of 134
2/19/12 at 11:46am
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But you won't see an iPad replacing Mac/PC desktops (at least not for another 10 years)

For 90% of users, iPads (or their imitators) will replace old fashioned computers in 5 years.
People tend to forget how fast things change, and how much most people actually dislike the traditional 'computer experience'.
My .02.
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post #89 of 134
2/19/12 at 11:47am
it took boeing about 3 to 5 years to get their 787 dreamliner ready and able for business.

apple seems to be quietly working to incorporate carbon fiber into its products.

if they succeed, and their checking account gives it a thumbs up, it will take the competition years to duplicate. it will totally change the playing field. virtually every product that apple makes can and will use carbon fiber.
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post #90 of 134
2/19/12 at 12:32pm
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Originally Posted by ezduzit View Post

virtually every product that apple makes can and will use carbon fiber.

Why? Less recyclable, less durable, prone to cracking, looks worse…

Apple has LiquidMetal. They don't need polywhateverides.
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post #91 of 134
2/19/12 at 12:36pm
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Originally Posted by GQB View Post

For 90% of users, iPads (or their imitators) will replace old fashioned computers in 5 years.
People tend to forget how fast things change, and how much most people actually dislike the traditional 'computer experience'.
My .02.

Remember when people said that notebooks were a waste of money and would never replace desktops because they were too limited and more costly compared to desktops? That clearly wasn't the case. Now we have a machine is more limited in many ways than a traditional PC but also more capable in many ways as the OS and UI are tailored for the HW, and it cost's less than the average PC unlike notebooks costing more than the desktops even today. In retrospect it's hard to see why the iPad is so popular and upsetting to the entire industry despite 3 decades of failed tablets before it.


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it took boeing about 3 to 5 years to get their 787 dreamliner ready and able for business.

apple seems to be quietly working to incorporate carbon fiber into its products.

if they succeed, and their checking account gives it a thumbs up, it will take the competition years to duplicate. it will totally change the playing field. virtually every product that apple makes can and will use carbon fiber.

CF has its uses but aluminium has its uses, too. Ignoring cost, recyclability, consistency of results and thermal aspects, for the number of units needed, the ease of machine a precise size on a microscopic level, complex internal structures, and the rigidity of the material at certain thinnesses I think Aluminum will stick around.

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post #92 of 134
2/19/12 at 12:53pm
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Has anyone heard about the possibility of storage space going up? Like a 128GB model. Seems possible with solid state memory continually getting cheaper.

They'll probably save that for next time. We're already getting an exponentially better screen and processor. If they do too much now it creates a problem the next time you want everyone to upgrade. The better camera makes sense now because of the screen.
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post #93 of 134
2/19/12 at 1:21pm
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you won't see an iPad replacing Mac/PC desktops (at least not for another 10 years) and even then, not until some substantial leap in solid state storage comes along.

iPads are already replacing Mac & PC desktops for many users. The simple truth is, not everyone is doing pro applications at home. I doubt an iPad will ever replace MY home Mac, but I'm doing high end stuff... pro audio, developing for the web, etc. But even I find myself using my Mac less than I did a year ago thanks to my iPad.

The next leap doesn't need to be onboard storage. Linking an iPad up to an external drive via wifi will be a really big step. That, plus cloud, and you're set.

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Camera manufacturers need to catch up and offer better features than the iPad and iPhone. Can you hear me Canon? Where's your GPS+WiFi cameras? Better yet, where's the non-gimmicky stereographic cameras?

Absolutely. iPhones are already killing point & shoot sales. I own an amazing DSLR ( a Sony a77 - it's an SLT, actually), but I also love shooting with my iPhone.
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post #94 of 134
2/19/12 at 1:22pm
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

That's the radio transparent plastic strip for the models with cellular connectivity. The WiFi antenna is behind the Apple symbol on the back panel.

D'oh! Thanks. Obviously, my iPad is wifi only.
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post #95 of 134
2/19/12 at 1:26pm
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I'm not getting your reasoning. The display will be about 3.2Mpx. Even if we adjust for aspect ratio differences between the display and camera going past 5Mpx for stills seems plenty. For video 1080p will be standard for some time. For the front facing camera 720p is the max Apple has across the Mac line a you need real time video to be smooth. I can see going better but not as good as possible but I'm not a camera guy so why am I missing?

Loose talk on my my part. I have no idea how sensor density is reflected by screen density in any numerical way. Since this will be the first mass market QVGA screen at 9.7, I look forward to doing some experiments. But there are many subtleties and imponderables, like backlighting, image processing, lenses, etc. I'm trusting that they're going to arrive at a good camera to screen match. Or a great one.
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post #96 of 134
2/19/12 at 1:57pm
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iPads are already replacing Mac & PC desktops for many users.

Can you quantify the "many"? Otherwise, it's not a very meaningful statement.

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The simple truth is, not everyone is doing pro applications at home. I doubt an iPad will ever replace MY home Mac, but I'm doing high end stuff... pro audio, developing for the web, etc. But even I find myself using my Mac less than I did a year ago thanks to my iPad.

But I don't see where it's about pro at all. Even a simple task as typing is a lot slower unless you're a hunt-and-peck typist. Adding a separate keyboard negates the form factor efficiencies of the device. What I like about a laptop is that it has a built-in screen stand.
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post #97 of 134
2/19/12 at 1:57pm
Like celebrity journalism, the Apple rumor mill is essentially a religious preoccupation. The rumors themselves, much like Gods and famous people, are as purposefully, stupefyingly dull as the phenomenon itself is fascinating. All cults have at their core an energetically defended "pay no attention to that man behind the curtain" infinite loop, where anything that might modify the conditions on which the cycle depends is deliberately excluded from the process, denying any possibility of fulfillment in order that it may continue forever.

The obsession with the presumed camera cutout in the hypothetical case of the alleged iPad 3 resembles nothing so much as debate over the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin or an in-depth analysis of what Gwyneth Paltrow didn't eat today. The focus of the attention is as trivial as the need to pay attention is paramount.

Stripped of the boring and irrelevant details, all such behaviors are revealed as soldiers conscripted into a rag tag army against ontological despair. Whatever their nominal function, the true purpose of such infinite loops is merely to continue infinitely, and consequently any focus on their alleged content that might threaten that continuance must be repelled at any cost, lest the entire system collapse. But for its viciously self-defensive qualities, the human desire to worship would be the subject of a great deal more attention. Sadly, part of the syndrome is that the worshipful seldom hesitate to lie, cheat, or kill in defense of their proclivity, intuitively sensing that like some secretive sexual fetish, exposure to light would banish the narcissistic shame and therefore decrease the pleasure. Consequently, we continue to focus on what we worship and think very little about worship itself.

Of course dead heroes are always best: that which can't change can never disappoint. Fortunately, being a secular Saint, Steve Jobs hypothetical farts will always smell sweeter than any actual rose gardens. The iPad 3 Hallelujah! Never mind the suicidal underage human robots behind the curtain.

Likely all these seemingly trivial obsessions are essentially sexual in nature. Like sexuality, they enjoin a repetition compulsion that persists without consideration for the comfort of the individual or the health of societies. And (like sexuality) we secretly fear that being relived of our compulsion would only expose a purposeless existence, the only goal of which is more of the same. The primary purpose of the exercise is to protect the faithful from the essential pointlessness of the exercise.

Like Wiley Coyote, we dare not look down. To see the empty air beneath our furiously running in feet is to fall.
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post #98 of 134
2/19/12 at 3:04pm
Looks like the iPad 3's screen is made by Samsung

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They even have the Samsung logos on the tape. How convenient.

Source: 9to5mac

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post #99 of 134
2/19/12 at 3:06pm
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Looks like the iPad 3's screen is made by Samsung

Samsung makes components. What's your point?

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post #100 of 134
2/19/12 at 3:09pm
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Like celebrity journalism, the Apple rumor mill is essentially a religious preoccupation. The rumors themselves, much like Gods and famous people, are as purposefully, stupefyingly dull as the phenomenon itself is fascinating. All cults have at their core an energetically defended "pay no attention to that man behind the curtain" infinite loop, where anything that might modify the conditions on which the cycle depends is deliberately excluded from the process, denying any possibility of fulfillment in order that it may continue forever.

The obsession with the presumed camera cutout in the hypothetical case of the alleged iPad 3 resembles nothing so much as debate over the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin or an in-depth analysis of what Gwyneth Paltrow didn't eat today. The focus of the attention is as trivial as the need to pay attention is paramount.

Stripped of the boring and irrelevant details, all such behaviors are revealed as soldiers conscripted into a rag tag army against ontological despair. Whatever their nominal function, the true purpose of such infinite loops is merely to continue infinitely, and consequently any focus on their alleged content that might threaten that continuance must be repelled at any cost, lest the entire system collapse. But for its viciously self-defensive qualities, the human desire to worship would be the subject of a great deal more attention. Sadly, part of the syndrome is that the worshipful seldom hesitate to lie, cheat, or kill in defense of their proclivity, intuitively sensing that like some secretive sexual fetish, exposure to light would banish the narcissistic shame and therefore decrease the pleasure. Consequently, we continue to focus on what we worship and think very little about worship itself.

Of course dead heroes are always best: that which can't change can never disappoint. Fortunately, being a secular Saint, Steve Jobs hypothetical farts will always smell sweeter than any actual rose gardens. The iPad 3 Hallelujah! Never mind the suicidal underage human robots behind the curtain.

Likely all these seemingly trivial obsessions are essentially sexual in nature. Like sexuality, they enjoin a repetition compulsion that persists without consideration for the comfort of the individual or the health of societies. And (like sexuality) we secretly fear that being relived of our compulsion would only expose a purposeless existence, the only goal of which is more of the same. The primary purpose of the exercise is to protect the faithful from the essential pointlessness of the exercise.

Like Wiley Coyote, we dare not look down. To see the empty air beneath our furiously running in feet is to fall.

I see what you mean.
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post #101 of 134
2/19/12 at 3:11pm
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Like Wiley Coyote, we dare not look down. To see the empty air beneath our furiously running in feet is to fall.

Good Stuff. Very perceptive, and very well written.
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post #102 of 134
2/19/12 at 4:20pm
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Like celebrity journalism, the Apple rumor mill is essentially a religious preoccupation. The rumors themselves, much like Gods and famous people, are as purposefully, stupefyingly dull as the phenomenon itself is fascinating. All cults have at their core an energetically defended "pay no attention to that man behind the curtain" infinite loop, where anything that might modify the conditions on which the cycle depends is deliberately excluded from the process, denying any possibility of fulfillment in order that it may continue forever.

The obsession with the presumed camera cutout in the hypothetical case of the alleged iPad 3 resembles nothing so much as debate over the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin or an in-depth analysis of what Gwyneth Paltrow didn't eat today. The focus of the attention is as trivial as the need to pay attention is paramount.

Stripped of the boring and irrelevant details, all such behaviors are revealed as soldiers conscripted into a rag tag army against ontological despair. Whatever their nominal function, the true purpose of such infinite loops is merely to continue infinitely, and consequently any focus on their alleged content that might threaten that continuance must be repelled at any cost, lest the entire system collapse. But for its viciously self-defensive qualities, the human desire to worship would be the subject of a great deal more attention. Sadly, part of the syndrome is that the worshipful seldom hesitate to lie, cheat, or kill in defense of their proclivity, intuitively sensing that like some secretive sexual fetish, exposure to light would banish the narcissistic shame and therefore decrease the pleasure. Consequently, we continue to focus on what we worship and think very little about worship itself.

Of course dead heroes are always best: that which can't change can never disappoint. Fortunately, being a secular Saint, Steve Jobs hypothetical farts will always smell sweeter than any actual rose gardens. The iPad 3… Hallelujah! Never mind the suicidal underage human robots behind the curtain.

Likely all these seemingly trivial obsessions are essentially sexual in nature. Like sexuality, they enjoin a repetition compulsion that persists without consideration for the comfort of the individual or the health of societies. And (like sexuality) we secretly fear that being relived of our compulsion would only expose a purposeless existence, the only goal of which is more of the same. The primary purpose of the exercise is to protect the faithful from the essential pointlessness of the exercise.

Like Wiley Coyote, we dare not look down. To see the empty air beneath our furiously running in feet is to fall.

I'm sorry, but I happen to be an expert on cults and cult behaviour and this entire statement is pure nonsense.

Also, as a reasonably accomplished writer, it doesn't even seem to make sense to me. You use a lot of florid phraseology but the sentences don't even hang together and the content is essentially zero. It's almost like the kind of crap people write when they are stoned and think they have some great insight that they don't actually have.
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post #103 of 134
2/19/12 at 4:26pm
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... CF has its uses but aluminium has its uses, too. Ignoring cost, recyclability, consistency of results and thermal aspects, for the number of units needed, the ease of machine a precise size on a microscopic level, complex internal structures, and the rigidity of the material at certain thinnesses I think Aluminum will stick around.

It's worth noting that Apple has many patents around carbon fibre that are very innovative and basically "answer" all of the problems you mention, but I tend to agree with you anyway.

The reason I tend to agree is that the patents and rumours that have emerged over the last few years are very strongly indicative of the idea that Apple has gone so far as to make prototypes of carbon fibre iPads and even a few small production runs. Yet they haven't released a carbon fibre iPad and probably won't this year as well. That tells me that they are very serious about perhaps using carbon fibre, but that it hasn't (yet) passed muster.
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post #104 of 134
2/19/12 at 5:28pm
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Can you quantify the "many"? Otherwise, it's not a very meaningful statement.

The real people to ask are Apple.
#1: Apple has already stated that iPads are cannibalizing Mac sales (though it's better to eat your own than be someone else's dinner).
#2: There's a reason iOS 5 features the ability to be "PC Free." iPads are becoming primary computers. For you? No. For me? No (though I love mine!) but for others? Definitely.

You prefer a real keyboard. So do I. But consider how popular texting was on phones even before the era of smartphones. People (especially teens) were whipping out texts by tying them out on tiny numerical keyboards. Believe it or not, people are writing novels - actual novels - on iPads. The makers of Scrivener, excellent software for writing novels on the Mac, are developing an iPad version.

It's a mistake to think that your tastes and preferences are representative of everyone else.

iPads are definitely becoming primary computers. For most? No. But for many, yes.
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post #105 of 134
2/19/12 at 5:31pm
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Samsung makes components. What's your point?

He has sort of become the new slapppy. I'd say pay him no heed at this point.
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post #106 of 134
2/19/12 at 5:38pm
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You prefer a real keyboard. So do I. But consider how popular texting was on phones even before the era of smartphones. People (especially teens) were whipping out texts by tying them out on tiny numerical keyboards. Believe it or not, people are writing novels - actual novels - on iPads. The makers of Scrivener, excellent software for writing novels on the Mac, are developing an iPad version.

It's a mistake to think that your tastes and preferences are representative of everyone else.

iPads are definitely becoming primary computers. For most? No. But for many, yes.

There's a difference between texting with rampant character substitution, short hand and abbreviations, and making a longer form post, like yours.

I also don't see how typing on a virtual keyboard is efficient for novel writing. One thing I find is if I'm watching where I put my fingers, auto correct often changes words before I notice it, resulting in even more inefficiency, having to correct changes that didn't have to be made. If it takes an extra month to write a novel, then is it really worthwhile? Heck, capability to skip to parts of a longer document often isn't there on iPads, though maybe not all programs are limited like that. Swiping through a 200 page document with 200 swipes to get to the end is a clear waste of time, the same if you need to go to any particular portion.
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2/19/12 at 7:21pm
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There's a difference between texting with rampant character substitution, short hand and abbreviations, and making a longer form post, like yours.

I also don't see how typing on a virtual keyboard is efficient for novel writing. One thing I find is if I'm watching where I put my fingers, auto correct often changes words before I notice it, resulting in even more inefficiency, having to correct changes that didn't have to be made. If it takes an extra month to write a novel, then is it really worthwhile? Heck, capability to skip to parts of a longer document often isn't there on iPads, though maybe not all programs are limited like that. Swiping through a 200 page document with 200 swipes to get to the end is a clear waste of time, the same if you need to go to any particular portion.

Hey. Cling to your truck if it works for you. See you in the rear view mirror.
5 years. Maybe less.
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2/19/12 at 7:25pm
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There's a difference between texting with rampant character substitution, short hand and abbreviations, and making a long form post, like yours.

I also don't see how typing on a virtual keyboard is efficient for novel writing. One thing I find is if I'm watching where I put my fingers, auto correct often changes words before I notice it, resulting in even more inefficiency, having to correct changes that didn't have to be made. If it takes an extra month to write a novel, then is it really worthwhile?

For interests sake and because you asked, I am currently writing two novels (roughly 80,00 words each at the moment), and a non-fiction title (120,00 words), on the iPad (exclusively on the iPad), using thumb typing in portrait mode by which means I get about 40-50 wpm.

Yes, I can type much faster on the keyboard, but the portability of the iPad trumps sitting at my desk. Writing (for me) happens on planes trains and automobiles and I don't have the luxury of running home to my computer. My productivity (writing wise), has actually gone up by a large amount since I switched entirely to the iPad.

I find most writers use laptops over desktops for the same reason but I never found laptops to be a good solution given that my main computer was a desktop and laptops don't sync.

The iPad is just a slightly different portable computer with it's pros and cons like any other. Before the iOS devices came along did a large part of my writing on a Pocket PC device. The iPhone trumped that on the first day I used it, and the iPad trumped the iPhone when it arrived a year or so later.

IMO the iPad is absolutely perfect for writing.
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2/19/12 at 7:26pm
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I think you have this point backwards. For gaming it will probably be best to downgrade to a lower resolution put for better frame rates, but for HD movies it'll be better and for reading (anything) it will blow you away. Consider the difference between the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 displays when it came to crisp and clear text. I couldn't go back after I saw the Retina Display.

Yeah the display will be good and an improvement but is that enough to get people to upgrade? Personally, not for me. I can see a lot of people upgrading though but likely cause its Apple rather than this is the thing they've been waitiing for.

My iPad 2 screen is fantastic, plenty good enouhg for me. I'm sure a comparison will make me jealous but is that alone enough to make everyone shell out $500-$900 for a new gadget that does pretty much exactly the same?

Not convinced, from the rumors, that there is enough new functionality to justify my cash.
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2/19/12 at 7:36pm
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Hey. Cling to your truck if it works for you. See you in the rear view mirror.
5 years. Maybe less.

A laptop is a truck? You're using a tired vehicle metaphor? Is the Internet a dump truck too?

I'm not arguing about five years from now, I'm arguing now. Five years from now, most of the software drawbacks should be shaken out, just like how Apple has added features every year to address limitations in their system. However, right now, a lot of stuff I try to do on an iPad still feels clumsy, or seemingly obvious features that are missing.

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For interests sake and because you asked, I am currently writing two novels (roughly 80,00 words each at the moment), and a non-fiction title (120,00 words), on the iPad (exclusively on the iPad), using thumb typing in portrait mode by which means I get about 40-50 wpm.

Yes, I can type much faster on the keyboard, but the portability of the iPad trumps sitting at my desk. Writing (for me) happens on planes trains and automobiles and I don't have the luxury of running home to my computer. My productivity (writing wise), has actually gone up by a large amount since I switched entirely to the iPad.

I find most writers use laptops over desktops for the same reason but I never found laptops to be a good solution given that my main computer was a desktop and laptops don't sync.

The iPad is just a slightly different portable computer with it's pros and cons like any other. Before the iOS devices came along did a large part of my writing on a Pocket PC device. The iPhone trumped that on the first day I used it, and the iPad trumped the iPhone when it arrived a year or so later.

IMO the iPad is absolutely perfect for writing.

Why not only use a laptop instead of a desktop and an iPad? I'd think that simplifies the whole system.

It is disappointing that computers don't sync together better. I never understood why no one ever solved that problem, the technology industry only had, what, twenty years to solve that?
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2/19/12 at 7:53pm
Fatal flaw with this article, it says the case is more tapered, which would coincide with reports of the iPad 3 getting a larger battery. Umm, if the case retains the same dimensions but you increase the taper then you are decreasing the total volume. How would that allow for a larger battery?

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post #112 of 134
2/19/12 at 7:54pm
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Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post

A laptop is a truck?

Yup.
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post #113 of 134
2/19/12 at 8:01pm
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Originally Posted by GQB View Post

Yup.

OK, why use obsolete metaphor to express it? Isn't that complaining about someone being out of date using an even more out of date expression?
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post #114 of 134
2/19/12 at 8:06pm
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Originally Posted by oneaburns View Post

Fatal flaw with this article, it says the case is more tapered, which would coincide with reports of the iPad 3 getting a larger battery. Umm, if the case retains the same dimensions but you increase the taper then you are decreasing the total volume. How would that allow for a larger battery?

Because they used the wrong word. Tapered means narrrower at one end. They should have said the edges are beveled, or rounded more than the iPad 2, to compensate for the fact that the back has to be slightly thicker—perhaps.

Kids don't know enough hardware terminology these days. No shop classes anymore, no hanging out at the garage talking to the mechanics. Shame, really.
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post #115 of 134
2/19/12 at 8:24pm
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Originally Posted by charlituna View Post

Was it Steve or Jonny that told you that.

Thought so.

We don't KNOW what Apple has been or is interested in. We KNOW only what they released.

I didn't think I was being vague in presenting my argument. In no way have I declared that anyone told me what was going on. It's just a no-brainer that Apple would have no interest in technology that takes the iPad in a negative direction. Something that requires a lot more power and adds significant weight is clearly unacceptable.

I think it is reasonable to use straightforward logic in assessing all the rumours that come along. This is a rather obvious one. A screen technology that would cause serious side effects is just not something Apple would consider. Isn't that rather obvious.

When it was claimed that Apple was going with two backlights in order to use Samsung and/or LG screens, it was rather clear that something just didn't add up. Now, it seems, the rumour of the day is that it's the Sharp technology, I presume IGZO, that has made it into the new iPad. I think the options are that or not upgrading the resolution after all.

What I would not consider believable is that Apple would conjure up an iPad 3 that is at least as heavy as the iPad 1 if not heavier. Not going to happen.
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post #116 of 134
2/19/12 at 8:31pm
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Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post

I'm not arguing about five years from now, I'm arguing now.

And you're right - for you. For the needs of others now, you're wrong. Your next statement is a perfect example of why:

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Why not only use a laptop instead of a desktop and an iPad? I'd think that simplifies the whole system.

You're thinking based on your tastes and preferences rather than understanding the tastes and preferences of others.

If a laptop is what works for you, use it. Nobody is saying you have to keep up with technology if you prefer the old way. Apple has said that iPads are already cannibalizing Mac sales. It's already happening NOW, as in today. Actually, scratch that. Apple reported that in an earnings call based on numbers from 2011, so it was happening in 2011. Here's an article from 2010 talking about the original iPad beginning to cannibalize Macbook sales. In 2010. That's over a year before now, rather than five years from now. And, again, there's a reason Apple created iOS 5 to be "PC Free." People are replacing their Macs and PCs with tablets. It's happening now whether you understand it or not.

I'll be honest, I didn't understand it either until I owned an iPad 2. I bought it for a client web project and thought it would be little more than a neat toy. Boy was I wrong. I still use my Mac desktop at home (my beloved Mini!) but I haven't touched my laptop since shortly after buying an iPad. I could type faster on my laptop, but in all other ways, I find the iPad so much more enjoyable to use, and it's more compact (especially in use versus how much space a laptop takes up when opened).
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post #117 of 134
2/19/12 at 8:40pm
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Originally Posted by Carmissimo View Post

What I would not consider believable is that Apple would conjure up an iPad 3 that is at least as heavy as the iPad 1 if not heavier. Not going to happen.

This is just my opinion, but, I don't think Apple has to chase weight reduction with the next iPad. I can easily imagine an iPad 3 (or 2s?) that is as heavy as an iPad 2 if it achieves other goals. If the iPad 3 is the same weight but with an 8 megapixel camera, a retina display and even slightly more horsepower without sacrificing battery life, I'll be thrilled.
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post #118 of 134
2/19/12 at 8:47pm
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Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post

There's a difference between texting with rampant character substitution, short hand and abbreviations, and making a longer form post, like yours.

I also don't see how typing on a virtual keyboard is efficient for novel writing. One thing I find is if I'm watching where I put my fingers, auto correct often changes words before I notice it, resulting in even more inefficiency, having to correct changes that didn't have to be made. If it takes an extra month to write a novel, then is it really worthwhile? Heck, capability to skip to parts of a longer document often isn't there on iPads, though maybe not all programs are limited like that. Swiping through a 200 page document with 200 swipes to get to the end is a clear waste of time, the same if you need to go to any particular portion.

Who the hell in this thread is suggesting an iPad is the best tool to write a novel??! Nobody. What percentage of people are writing novels? The obvious point is that iPads may be able to replace MOST tasks that MOST people do on a computer. There are some things tablets won't be as good at for a very long time. But those things tend to be more specialized or professional niches, and don't represent the usage of the majority of people. Nobody is going to argue with you that a virtual keyboard would work well to write a novel- it obviously wouldn't, and I'd rather repeatedly slam my face against a wall than attempt that. I'm not sure what the point of your post was, as you're making a straw-man statement that is blatantly obvious and that nobody is going to disagree with. I'm a designer, but I'm not going to suddenly start whining that the iPad isn't an ideal tool for serious design jobs- because nobody is stating that it is, I'm not planning to use it as such, and it isn't positioned as such a tool.

EDIT: Holy shit, someone is suggesting that. I stand corrected, I guess there is someone out there.
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post #119 of 134
2/19/12 at 8:54pm
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Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post

For interests sake and because you asked, I am currently writing two novels (roughly 80,00 words each at the moment), and a non-fiction title (120,00 words), on the iPad (exclusively on the iPad), using thumb typing in portrait mode by which means I get about 40-50 wpm.

Yes, I can type much faster on the keyboard, but the portability of the iPad trumps sitting at my desk. Writing (for me) happens on planes trains and automobiles and I don't have the luxury of running home to my computer. My productivity (writing wise), has actually gone up by a large amount since I switched entirely to the iPad.

I find most writers use laptops over desktops for the same reason but I never found laptops to be a good solution given that my main computer was a desktop and laptops don't sync.

The iPad is just a slightly different portable computer with it's pros and cons like any other. Before the iOS devices came along did a large part of my writing on a Pocket PC device. The iPhone trumped that on the first day I used it, and the iPad trumped the iPhone when it arrived a year or so later.

IMO the iPad is absolutely perfect for writing.

I'm going to completely disagree with you there, and would rather stick a fork in my eyeballs than attempt to write a novel on an iPad. I mean.. what about text selection? Moving the cursor? All these things are significantly slower and more cumbersome on a touchscreen. There's not many things that I can say categorically are much WORSE on a tablet, but writing a novel is one of the few exceptions. As for xyncing, you heard of dropbox? There's a million syncing solutions out there. I'm as much a tablet champion as the next guy, and do believe they're the future of computing with the iPad leading the pack by a large margin, but writing a novel is still something that would work 10x better on a Macbook Air. Thumb-typing a novel in portrait mode? I mean, really? How is that even possible? At least in landscape you don't have to bear the weight of the thing- but in portrait? Jesus.
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post #120 of 134
2/19/12 at 10:57pm
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The iPhone 4 almost uniformly performed lower than the 3GS in GPU benchmarks despite faster hardware, and it was because the GPU had to put up with so many more pixels. I think its pretty certain the iPad 3 will have a better GPU to cope unlike the 3GS-4, but the improvement won't be as much as it would have been if they stayed with the same resolution, since again its putting up with way more pixels, and in this case more pixels than even 150+ watt desktop GPUs have to handle. So the resolution alone isn't great for gamers, but rather everything else will benefit more than games.


I have a theory that gaming will remain at 1024x768 but iPad 2X will use optimised Lanczos-equivalent ~upscaling~ ala Xbox360.

It's the best of all worlds... Definitive 3D graphics improvement, while still driving both the Retina resolution as well as full 1080p output including Airplay Mirroring(?) to AppleTV3.

I have done some tests and will post soon. Gotta finish some work first.
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