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ABC has offered a preview of its forthcoming special "iFactory: Inside Apple," which will offer an examination of the working conditions inside the factories of Apple partner Foxconn.

The peek inside Foxconn's factories, where devices like the iPhone and iPad are built, will air as part of a special episode of the news program Nightline Tuesday night. To promote the program, ABC has released a minute-and-a-half preview of the special.

Reporter Bill Weir was on location at Foxconn's mega-plant in Chengdu, China, reporting on the company that assembles components not only for Apple, but a number of other electronics makers as well. But it's Apple, which is now worth more than Microsoft and Google combined, that has come under fire recently for its partnership with Foxconn.

In particular, a story from The New York Times suggested that Apple has ignored alleged labor abuses at Foxconn because the current system is favorable to the company. Those claims prompted Apple Chief Executive Tim Cook to send an e-mail to employees declaring the anonymous criticisms to be "patently false."

In ABC's video preview (included below), Weir revealed that it was Apple itself who invited Nightline to take a closer look inside its supply chain and Foxconn's facilities.

"We will show you how your iPad, your iPhone, your MacBook is made, and we will meet the people who made them," he said. "We'll show you how these folks come on buses, sometimes for days, to travel to the Foxconn gates, desperate for a chance to wipe a screen or solder a chip for 10 hours a day at less than $1.50 an hour."

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The special will also feature an interview with a "top Foxconn executive," in which Weir asks about employee suicides at the company's facilities. It will also feature details on Apple's independent audit of its supply chain by the Fair Labor Association.

"It's a fascinating look into a hidden corner of our world," Weir said.

That the special is airing on ABC is noteworthy because the broadcast network is owned by Disney, and Disney Chief Executive Bob Iger serves on Apple's board of directors. In addition, the late Steve Jobs was the largest individual shareholder of Disney, and those shares are now controlled by his family.

Nightline's "iFactory: Inside Apple" will air Tuesday, Feb. 21 at 11:35 p.m. Eastern and Pacific time on ABC.

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If the video doesn't play (it didn't for me) here is the link

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...5#.T0JZwlFNxc8
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From the related article at 9to5Mac:

Full disclosure: Disney Corporation owns the ABC News network. The fact that the Steve Jobs Trust is Disneys largest individual shareholder, coupled with Disney CEO Bob Iger now having a seat on Apples board of directors, certainly helped win the official approval from Apple. It also raises questions on a possible conflict of interest with this report.
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I can see the response now. If it's an even account or perhaps favorable to Apple, the dirty pro-union libs and/or anti-Apple zealots will write it off as a biased piece concocted by a news organization whose parent company is in bed with Cupertino. And if it's a scathing attack that forever mars the way the world looks at iProducts, it's an honest assessment of the bloodthirsty machine designed by that money hungry tyrant Steve Jobs.
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Can't be seen on the iPad, as usual. Time to fire up the iMac.

Will someone at apple please get flash working on iOS? It's been long enough.
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Can't be seen on the iPad, as usual. Time to fire up the iMac.

Will someone at apple please get flash working on iOS? It's been long enough.

It's not Apple

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/exc...-updated/19226
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Will someone at apple please get flash working on iOS? It's been long enough.

Ha! Ha ha, ha! Ha, ha ha ha, ha! Ha, ha, hoh hoh-hoh-hoh

That's a good mid-morning joke.

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Can't be seen on the iPad, as usual. Time to fire up the iMac.

Will someone at apple please get flash working on iOS? It's been long enough.

Adobe has stopped Flash for the embedded space, or have you forgotten? They've conceded it's foobar'd and will only focus on Flash for the desktop. Current flash player for the smartphone market is now in bug fix only mode.

http://blogs.adobe.com/conversations...ash-focus.html
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Can't be seen on the iPad, as usual. Time to fire up the iMac.

Will someone at apple please get flash working on iOS? It's been long enough.

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ABC airs a non damning documentary on Foxconn: conflict of interest and lies

NBC airs a non damning documentary on Foxconn: lies

BBC airs a non damning documentary on Foxconn: foreign lies

CBC airs a non damning documentary on Foxconn: communist lies

Some loud mouthed hyperbole laden dude with a microphone and a Sony camcorder airs a scathing report on his blog about the slave sweatshops run by the Illuminati managed Foxconn, secretly owned by Apple: the absolute and unquestionable truth
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Great to see Apple tackle this problem head-on.
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Can't be seen on the iPad, as usual. Time to fire up the iMac.

Will someone at apple please get flash working on iOS? It's been long enough.

It seems you have as much intelligence and spin as the person you hope to imitate! Adobe is abandoning its mobile flash program. How can you possibly blame Apple for it?
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From the related article at 9to5Mac:

Full disclosure: Disney Corporation owns the ABC News network. The fact that the Steve Jobs Trust is Disney’s largest individual shareholder, coupled with Disney CEO Bob Iger now having a seat on Apple’s board of directors, certainly helped win the official approval from Apple. It also raises questions on a possible conflict of interest with this report.

You always have to wonder, but Disney or ABC can not fake what Foxconn is doing. No doubt that Foxconn made sure they presented the best of the best, which is the way they do things even if there is a person walking around with a camera. Beyond this I can tell you Foxconn would never allow a camera in their factories they will either take any camera you have of make you turn off you cell phone if you have a camera in it and they watch you very closely to make sure you never turn it on or take it out of your pocket. They will tell you it to protect trade secrets, so they fact they even allowed a camera on if amazing. That you can be assure was because apple put pressure on them and you probably right that apple gave the rights to ABC due to the connection, why would they give that right to Fox News.

Anyway, if you look at the factory it looks no different than any other factory in the world, it actually pretty nice, except those green floors, I can not understand what the Asian like painting things that green color. That alone makes things look very depressing, I wish they would use better more cheerful colors.

As they showed Foxconn has no issue attracting workers to their facilities, it better than the alternative that is for sure.
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From the related article at 9to5Mac:

Full disclosure: Disney Corporation owns the ABC News network. The fact that the Steve Jobs Trust is Disneys largest individual shareholder, coupled with Disney CEO Bob Iger now having a seat on Apples board of directors, certainly helped win the official approval from Apple. It also raises questions on a possible conflict of interest with this report.

i am sure the factory will be immaculate and the workers happy and smiling! no way would apple let them in unless this makes them look like benevolent gods.
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Can't be seen on the iPad, as usual. Time to fire up the iMac.

Will someone at apple please get flash working on iOS? It's been long enough.

as a certified Apple Service Snot (ASS) even i say give it a rest. jobs was right: flash needs to die. forget about it.
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Can't be seen on the iPad, as usual. Time to fire up the iMac.

Will someone at apple please get flash working on iOS? It's been long enough.

Hasn't the failure of Flash on mobile platforms been proven well enough? Apple was absolutely right to keep it off of iOS. It's time for websites to stop using it.
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From the related article at 9to5Mac:

Full disclosure: Disney Corporation owns the ABC News network. The fact that the Steve Jobs Trust is Disney’s largest individual shareholder, coupled with Disney CEO Bob Iger now having a seat on Apple’s board of directors, certainly helped win the official approval from Apple. It also raises questions on a possible conflict of interest with this report.

No less a conflict of interest than someone using Apple's success to make a buck.

Oh yeah: http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...40#post2050040

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No less a conflict of interest than someone using Apple's success to make a buck.

Oh yeah: http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...40#post2050040

Yes, you and 9to5 sound like you're in agreement. You mentioned it first tho. Good observation.
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Yes, you and 9to5 sound like you're in agreement. You mentioned it first tho. Good observation.

If ABC reports that the conditions are bad which I don't think they are for Foxconn compared to the companies they work for or for Chinese factories in general the best we'll hear are "Those factories were so bad that even ABC couldn't spin it in Apple's favour." There is no way Apple will win with a certain type of person.

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The special will also feature an interview with a "top Foxconn executive," in which Weir asks about employee suicides at the company's facilities.

Hopefully, ABC will put it into perspective.
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Out of a million people [FOXCONN employees], 17 suicides [5 years] isn’t much—indeed, American college students kill themselves at four times that rate.

And perhaps they should do a special on how American students really feel about their education system.
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Nearly 1,100 suicides will occur on college campuses this year. Many more students think about suicide or make a suicide plan. In the past fifty years, the suicide rate for those age 15-24 increased by over 200%. About 12 people aged 15-24 will commit suicide today – that is one about every two hours.

But maybe just having more than your neighbor just isn't enough.
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In what seems an absurd paradox, new research suggests the happiest countries and the happiest states have the highest suicide rates.
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Some loud mouthed hyperbole laden dude with a microphone and a Sony camcorder airs a scathing report on his blog about the slave sweatshops run by the Illuminati managed Foxconn, secretly owned by Apple: the absolute and unquestionable truth

I didn't know James O'Keefe hated Apple.
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I can see the response now. If it's an even account or perhaps favorable to Apple, the dirty pro-union libs and/or anti-Apple zealots will write it off as a biased piece concocted by a news organization whose parent company is in bed with Cupertino. And if it's a scathing attack that forever mars the way the world looks at iProducts, it's an honest assessment of the bloodthirsty machine designed by that money hungry tyrant Steve Jobs.

I'm a pro union lib who happens to be thrilled with everything apple, including the very complex previous CEO, whom I would never work for but own all his stuff. I don't think the reactions out there in journalism land will be quite so shallow as you portray. I could be wrong, but I'm just saying.
For people who were making $10/year in a good year, making $1.50/hr is a fortune. Things will improve.

Besides, don't bash politics around here; you might get an infraction like I did.
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I didn't know James O'Keefe hated Apple.

LOL!

I'm sure there are many on here and elsewhere who would believe O'Keefe as long as he spewed hate and disgust towards Apple.
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If the video doesn't play (it didn't for me) here is the link

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...5#.T0JZwlFNxc8


There's an app for that, right? Not FLASH! An app!
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ABC airs a non damning documentary on Foxconn: conflict of interest and lies

NBC airs a non damning documentary on Foxconn: lies

BBC airs a non damning documentary on Foxconn: foreign lies

CBC airs a non damning documentary on Foxconn: communist lies

Some loud mouthed hyperbole laden dude with a microphone and a Sony camcorder airs a scathing report on his blog about the slave sweatshops run by the Illuminati managed Foxconn, secretly owned by Apple: the absolute and unquestionable truth

That just about covers it.
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I can see the response now. If it's an even account or perhaps favorable to Apple, the dirty pro-union libs and/or anti-Apple zealots will write it off as a biased piece concocted by a news organization whose parent company is in bed with Cupertino. And if it's a scathing attack that forever mars the way the world looks at iProducts, it's an honest assessment of the bloodthirsty machine designed by that money hungry tyrant Steve Jobs.

Don't taint this discussion with your own political views. And certainly don't insult others whose very valid political viewpoint just happens to be different to your own. ("dirty pro-union libs . . . .") I happen to be liberal and a very vocal defender of Apple on this issue. Blame anti-Apple zealots if you like, but it's nothing to do with American politics.
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Hope justice is brought to these workers.
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The preview makes it seem this will be pretty balanced.

As for transparency, I'm not sure what more we can ask from Apple. From releasing detailed audit findings + names of all their suppliers, to being the 1st tech company to join the join the FLA, to requesting the most thorough audit in the history of the industry, to inviting news cameras into Foxconn to what is described as near unrestricted access, I can't see any other company having a response that involves more transparency than what Apple is doing. This report will probably be bashed either way, either people accusing it of being too soft, or too negative. But some things can't really be spun, and kudos to Apple for even allowing this and granting this level of access. It will probably be educational for most peopple, giving multiple dimensions of the story and giving the most accurate picture yet at what these factories are really like. My prediction is that the situation in these factories is less dramatic, evil, and sensational that we'd been led to believe, and similar to assembly lines that are common everywhere.
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Don't taint this discussion with your own political views. And certainly don't insult others whose very valid political viewpoint just happens to be different to your own. ("dirty pro-union libs . . . .") I happen to be liberal and a very vocal defender of Apple on this issue. Blame anti-Apple zealots if you like, but it's nothing to do with American politics.

I'm not so sure about that myself.
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'iFactory: Inside Apple'

Shouldn't it be called 'Inside Foxconn'?
Last time I checked it wasn;t thé same company, or does that not even matter anymore?
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The preview makes it seem this will be pretty balanced.

NGC has a series on super factories. This has more of that feel than an exposé about how Apple is evil.

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If I were in charge of things, I'd think about tightening up security with all of the leaks taking place. It's getting to be a joke. Ban all cameras and phones from the factories. Make them all work naked like drug cartels do. As long as the leaks are stopped, then everything is fine. And the punishment for stealing or leaking any info should be extremely severe.
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If I were in charge of things, I'd think about tightening up security with all of the leaks taking place. It's getting to be a joke. Ban all cameras and phones from the factories. Make them all work naked like drug cartels do. As long as the leaks are stopped, then everything is fine. And the punishment for stealing or leaking any info should be extremely severe.

So you believe the insanely negative PR for Apple of workers working naked in 'Apple factories' is worth trading for the questionable negative impact of blurry component photos that show pretty much nothing?
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Hasn't the failure of Flash on mobile platforms been proven well enough? Apple was absolutely right to keep it off of iOS. It's time for websites to stop using it.

Okay. Fair enough.

Looks like I hit a sore spot here. Look at it from my point of view. I'm all comfy in my White House bed. I see a story about Apple, on a Apple website. And to actually see it, I have to get one of my secret service guys to bring me a PC. Make sense to you?

Make it a little easier on me next time. This is my holiday, you know.
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Okay. Fair enough.

Looks like I hit a sore spot here. Look at it from my point of view. I'm all comfy in my White House bed. I see a story about Apple, on a Apple website. And to actually see it, I have to get one of my secret service guys to bring me a PC. Make sense to you?

Make it a little easier on me next time. This is my holiday, you know.

Actually, the Secret Service guy brought you a MacBook Pro.
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So you believe the insanely negative PR for Apple of workers working naked in 'Apple factories' is worth trading for the questionable negative impact of blurry component photos that show pretty much nothing?

The working naked part was a little joke, though I do think that security should be tightened up.

I don't really think that Apple has been affected at all because of the whining and lies that a few people have been attempting to spread. Are people buying less iPads, iPhones and Macs? People want their Apple devices, they aren't interested in what some hypocritical, lying douchebags claim.
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I'm all comfy in my White House bed.

That's the problem. You should spend less time in bed, less time on the golf courses, quit taking a million vacations and actually do something for a change. Earn your money. You work for me.
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Can't be seen on the iPad, as usual. Time to fire up the iMac.

Will someone at apple please get flash working on iOS? It's been long enough.

Not sure what's funnier.

Your post, or your username.

Either way, it's a fail.

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From the related article at 9to5Mac:

Full disclosure: Disney Corporation owns the ABC News network. The fact that the Steve Jobs Trust is Disneys largest individual shareholder, coupled with Disney CEO Bob Iger now having a seat on Apples board of directors, certainly helped win the official approval from Apple. It also raises questions on a possible conflict of interest with this report.

This just defeats the whole purpose of having an "independent" news organization having free reign inside a factory.

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I can see the response now. If it's an even account or perhaps favorable to Apple, the dirty pro-union libs and/or anti-Apple zealots will write it off as a biased piece concocted by a news organization whose parent company is in bed with Cupertino. And if it's a scathing attack that forever mars the way the world looks at iProducts, it's an honest assessment of the bloodthirsty machine designed by that money hungry tyrant Steve Jobs.

I'm going to rewrite your post to:

"I can see the response now. If it's an even account or perhaps favorable to Apple, the dirty pro-union libs and/or anti-Apple zealots will write it off as a biased piece concocted by a news organization whose parent company is in bed with Cupertino. And if it's a scathing attack that forever mars the way the world looks at iProducts, the greedy anti-labor and/or Apple zealots will write it off as a lame-stream media hit piece meant to pander to people's anti-capitalist sentiments.

Of course intelligent people know that the truth is somewhere in between. While, although labor conditions and quality of life are shockingly low by western standards, many Chinese see it as a stepping stone to a better life because a great majority of Chinese live for much less than $1.50 a day. Haivng said that... public pressure to improve working conditions and compensation for those chinese workers is a good thing. If China were able to create a true middle class, then the world would see an economic boom the likes of which we've never seen int he 20th century."
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